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Submitted by donniebaseball 324d ago | news

Wii U is "effectively a 360" says Microsoft

After a less than impressive E3 showing for Nintendo, the industry is waiting for the company to announce the final pieces of the puzzle: launch date and price. Nintendo typically doesn't announce exact hardware specs, but with more games on display for Wii U, it's now becoming easier to size up its graphical horsepower (which beforehand some had said was better than PS3). Microsoft, however, recently told GamesIndustry International that it views Wii U as basically on par with Xbox 360. (Industry, Microsoft, Nintendo, Wii U)

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Sinner101GR  +   324d ago
what with Xbox 360 running a tablet for a controller.
Lucretia  +   324d ago
not to mention the multipltform controller being a str8 rip of the 360 controller lol
nukeitall  +   324d ago
The Wii U SDK is also built to make it easy to port Xbox 360 games specifically.

However, with the weak support from third parties shown so far I'm not certain it will match the Xbox 360. It will be more like a poor clone with excellent Nintendo titles!

Anyhow, excited to see things are moving forward and Wii U is where things are happening.
chaostrophies  +   324d ago
you must've forgotten all the other controllers that came out before xbox lol
ThatDamnGeordie  +   323d ago
Dreamcast/N64 controller anyone?
sikbeta  +   323d ago
*shots fired* :P

I like how the MS guy is not talking s#*t about the competition, he states what he thinks without downplaying the console, brand or anything, I was expecting something worst tbh

I don't think the U = X360, but N didn't show anything mind-blowing in their conference, also the massive focus in the tablet-controller *Alone* leaving the system out of the picture is kind of weird

I know they trying to pull another wii by showing the controller, but this time, a tablet is not something "revolutionary" at all, in fact, better be ready for the hordes of Apple fanboys calling out Nintendo for "stealing" Steve Jobs idea /rolleyes

Lets see what the masses that eat the wii like no else business will react to the new console :D
Azmatik  +   323d ago
yes because everyone in their right mind knows 360 isnt powerfull had to say it lol. now ive always trusted in Sony and PC's to make amazing GFX anyone elts agree?
willie32  +   324d ago
Nintento has made a living selling out-dated tech these past two generations.
oricon  +   323d ago
iirc gamecube was more powerful than the PS2
JonnyBigBoss  +   324d ago
WHOA THERE!
Derek-Flint  +   324d ago
Another reason then not to buy one.
TheModernKamikaze  +   324d ago
You're seriously going to listen to it's competitor?
miyamoto  +   324d ago
LOL!
What do you mean?

First M$ said it got cloud gaming by the balls, now this.

ROFLMAO!

Does M$ own the Direct 11 technology?

OT:
I knew that Pro Controller thing will be M$ trojan horse to bash the hell out of Nintendo. Come on Nintendo that was really a lame move. All your years of building the so called "innovation" brand went down the drain in one fell swoop in just one day.
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Computersaysno  +   324d ago
"Does M$ own the Direct 11 technology?"

Errrr...yeah.....they do lol although Wii U will probably be OpenCL
ZoidsRaven  +   324d ago
LMFAO!
Oh please... 7_7
cone   324d ago | Spam
mike1up  +   324d ago | Well said
This statement will become funnier after Microsoft copies the WiiU.
BattleAxe  +   324d ago
You will become funnier after the WiiU gets discontinued after 20 million units of production.
live2play  +   324d ago
your post will become even funnier when you get a ton of disagrees

oh wait

you insulted the wiiu
i forgot thats the cool thing to do here
Rockoman16  +   324d ago
Your comment made me fart and it's not even funny
ThatDamnGeordie  +   323d ago
guy above ^^ is a legend and now im probably going to get disagrees for stating the obvious.
Derek-Flint  +   324d ago | Funny
If it's effectively a 360, according to Microsoft.

This means early consoles will explode if you try to play on them for over two hours.
MoonConquistador  +   324d ago
LOL@Derek, well somebody had to say it
vortis  +   324d ago
Bubbles because it's funny even though it is a fanboy comment.

You guys have to admit, you all giggled like blushing school girls when you read Derek's comment.
IRetrouk  +   324d ago
What makes it funny is it's true, don't know if he's a fanboy or not but I went through 5 of the original suckers, heartbreaking every time :-), on topic I think the Wii u could still impress me, am waiting for more info
Holeran  +   324d ago
That's the most funny comment I've read on here in a long time. After having a 360 that red ringed 2 times I sympathize.
Irishguy95  +   324d ago
I never got the red ring surprisingly, I was shocked to find out it is the most common problem, i've had hard drive errors, Laser death twice, and E74. Never the Red ring.

Which makes me lol. In a small insignificant way I got lucky.
Elvis  +   323d ago
It's funny cuz it's true.
BitbyDeath  +   324d ago
I'm sure that's Microsofts idea of a compliment.
Reborn  +   324d ago
I'm assuming the amount getting sent for repairs will be astoundingly high?

I don't get the controller issue. Yeah, it looks like a 360 one. However, personally Nintendo did a good job with addressing the requests for a 'standard' controller.
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Skateboard  +   324d ago
Ummmmmmmmmmmm you wish braaa.
supremacy  +   324d ago
The only thing i took out of that, was the whole 360 games catalog being ported to wiiu. As it currently stands Nintendos new platform looks to be going the vita route, though Nintendo usually doesnt get any slack for such things. So, i think its good that they are preparing themselves for the core gamer.

As far as power is concerned i honestly dont know where the wiiu stands to be honest, some(Speaking about devs ofcourse) say its more powerful than the ps360 while others say otherwise.

Now with that said, people often think that power means prettier graphics(when making the case about whats more important about a games console), when in reality it means more than just that. RAm, processing speeds, for things like game size, color, ai, physics,sound ect. Knowing Nintendo and how they present themselves through their products, i will say the wiiu will be one of these in between gen consoles with some new ideas and alot of old current gen ports in the mix.

Now thats not to say anything bad about the system, since there is a huge Nintendo userbase that i am sure could enjoy some of what they might have missed with the wii, so its all good. But, part of me feels we are looking at another wii situation, so releasing it a year apart from the pack makes a lot of sense. Because if either M$ or Sony decides to release more powerful hardware at a subsidize price point through some sort of dueable incentive then it could spell trouble, afterall this isnt the handheld space.

Now, tgs in my personal opinion will be the place where Nintendo reveals its price and release date and even launch line up. I also have a feeling they might announced different skues for this platform, this fall will sure be an interesting one. Cant wait for next years e3, see what M$ and Sony have plan.
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Thecraft1989  +   324d ago
Well at moment it's only best too look at facts. Sadly we know very little, what do know is WII U will have custom Power7 CPU this a very modern design, powerful,Easy to develop for.

We know It's got a 25GB Discs.

We know It's not got a HDD not amazing but we will see how effects the WII U.

Already at launch It's streaming 720p across two devices, then outputting at 720p on a TV.

The question never was will the WII U be more powerful than current consoles, It's how much more and how will it cope in year after release ? As you can't judge a system on launch titles alone.
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yabhero  +   324d ago
Can an Xbox 360 stream a native 720p to two controllers at 30 FPS with a base GFX level of late gen current and more potential.
LOL_WUT  +   324d ago
So basically Microsoft is saying that the Wii U is this gen lol.
ALLWRONG  +   324d ago
I don't have a problem with that.
omarzy  +   324d ago
Microsoft, get a dictionary. Look up the word generation then come back. Consumers rewriting the definition to be based on console power is bad enough, but when a global company like Microsoft indirectly admits to not know how to look up words in a dictionary then you know the world is going down the crapper. I know the companies will never read these messages, but i feel it is my duty as an elementary school graduate to educate companies like Microsoft. This is not me defending Nintendo, this is me defending the future of human intelligence.
sidar  +   324d ago
It's a pr guy, just like all those other companies that started promoting their games with the word "Hardcore".

Gamers owe it to themselves. And they fell for their own nonsense.
AO1JMM  +   324d ago
Ummmmmmm NO!!!!!

Lol
stragomccloud  +   324d ago
Of course Microsoft says that. They wouldnt be a very good company if they were giving props to their competition.
BrianC6234  +   324d ago
How does Microsoft know this? Have they seen a Wii U? I bet it's better than the 360 and PS3. The problem though is if you buy one in a year or so Sony and Microsoft will both release much more powerful consoles. What's the hurry in buying a Wii U? It's not like it will have many games. Most of the third party games will also be on the PS3 and 360.
JonathanG  +   323d ago
BrianC6234, why do you even bother being on the internet if you can't respect different opnions?
The only opnions you care about are you're own.
I have a suggestion, quit being disrespectful and learn to accept different opinions.
greenpowerz  +   324d ago
MS is saying wait for the 720, in a indirect Wii-u doesn't matter kinda way. It's up to you to speculate what they mean by this.

As for the Sony fanboys talking about copying, the industry is made up of copying from eachother. If Nintendo doesn't copy MS online structure I won't be buying a Wii u. As for faulty hardware MS only had problems with one generation vs Sony with two generations and almost 3 with PS3 fats. A Gamestop manager told me PS3 fats had problems and was the real reason for ps3 slims.
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Jihaad_cpt  +   324d ago
Stop trolling no one is talking about the PS3.
Denonfreak   323d ago | Spam
Jazz4108  +   323d ago
The failure rate was high on ps3 fats as the ylod was getting bigger. They did move to the lim quickly because of this. I worked in a gameing for 3 years during ps3s launch and although ps3s were not dying as much as 360s from launch the ps3 di have several issues. The 360 slim and ps3 slim seem to be much moe reliale but the ps3 slim took features away while the 360 added them.
InTheLab  +   324d ago
Basically a 360 with a $400 iPad accessory...
lol that sounds like a good deal!!
DivineAssault  +   324d ago
Im sure microsofts inside ppl know WAAAAAAAAY more than each & everyone of you nintendo fans combined.. Not to mention what 3rd party devs working with wii u prolly told them about it... Disbelieve all u want but the fact is nobody on this entire site knows more than what they do about wii u
LAWSON72  +   324d ago
I love how ppl hate Nintendo to bad they have done more for the industry then any other company. Funny how people believe MS about wii u. That's like having McDonalds telling you that burger kings burgers taste like crap.
HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   324d ago
So much hate on Nintendo
Jneal7  +   324d ago
It's a 360 that will have amazing HD Nintendo titles! Zelda HD, anyone? Doesn't sound too bad at all :)
miyamoto  +   324d ago
Except for the RROD
corrus  +   324d ago
WII U is not powerful even as PS3/360 now i'll tell you why.

Crytek saying that WII U can run Cryengine 3 but they not gonna release Crysis 3 on WII U that's mean they lying.

EA saying that WII U can run Frostbite 2 but they not gonna release Battlefield 3 that's mean is not true.

Call of Duty: Black Ops II not gonna be released on WII U will be some imitation of Black Ops II

Capcom said no to Nintendo for Resident Evil 6 for WII U.

Castlevania Lords Of Shadow 2 also not gonna be released for WII U.

Nintendo hoping for Splinter Cell Blacklist but that game not gonna be released for WII U.

WII U is weak console.
Zeppelino  +   324d ago
Lol, you sir, fail at being a troll. Just saying
krazykombatant  +   324d ago
Right right now tell me another one about cowboys and indians
donman1  +   324d ago
Your logic is that of a drunk idiot.... does that mean we should also conclude you are stupid?

All games mentioned above are already deep in development for PS3/Xbox360 with dedicated groups (man power) working on each platform. So let me help you out here... you actually need resources and man power to produce a game. If they do not have that resource ready it will not happen. My bet is once they have completed the game for one of the two consoles, resources will be made available for the Wii U version. Plus Wii U have no install base yet. So it will be a wait and see for the next few months.
Gekko  +   324d ago
That's fine with me. I've always thought that all Nintendo needed was to make their console HD to make the graphics look better. Remember though, that their philosophy has always been selling technology at an affordable price and to be well adapted with it to make great games.

They wouldn't be able to do that if they tried to sell a console that has more power but harder to use with.
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numonex360  +   324d ago
GameStop staff are paid to push X360 version ahead of the PS3 version. It is up to the consumer to make the purchase decision.
X360 game sales of most multi-plat games except for sports, fighters and racers are ahead of the PS3 version. X360 controller is more suited for bigger Western gamer hands. PS3 controller is more suited for gamers with smaller hands: females and Asian have smaller hands.
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metroid32  +   324d ago
Its official now that the wiiu will compete with 720/ps4 spec wise as the wiiu is DX11/and supports Compute shaders,not to mention it has 32mb/768MB of EDRAM and 2gig of RAM,remember ps3 has 256mb and 360 had 528mb but that didnt stop ps3 making games just as good well WiiU is 8 times the RAM of ps3 and 4 times that of 360 this alone without the Medern GPU that supports DX11/Compute shaders ect is enough to make games look alot better.
upallnightgamer  +   324d ago
If Wii U is effectively a 360, then why not just buy a 360? I'm not a Marketing major, but I know comparing your next-gen console to a current-gen console doesn't bode well for you.
Tzunoy  +   324d ago
Wii-u have a future???
Jadedz  +   324d ago
I'd personally take it as a complement (if I were in Nintendo's shoes)
A brand's global acceptance is the key to its success. Hypothetically writing - what if XB 360 Asia sales were comparative to the console's sales in NA?

Like Sony - Nintendo is a band name that sells globally (I'm speaking on behalf of gaming console platforms). I'm not undermining Microsoft, just pointing out were Nintendo and themselves, differ in that regard.
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