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Tomb Raider devs: 'Rape' is not in our vocabulary

Destructoid says, "The Tomb Raider "R-word" controversy just won't quit, especially with Kotaku poking at it with a big stick. The outlet recently spoke to Crystal Dynamics' Karl Stewart, attempting to push him further on the whole issue of potential rape attempts in the game. Stewart's response essentially amount to, 'What's rape?'"

LOGICWINS4307d ago

Sooo...what do you call it when a person is an unwillingly participant in a sexual act? Screwing without permission?

Tired4307d ago

Don't be so stupid.

Rape is not in MY vocabulary either. It's just 'SURPRISE SEX!'

I believe you have to shout/scream SURPRISE! at the point of no return or it doesn't count.

Getowned4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

Can't rape the willing :)

just call me Bubba

da_2pacalypse4307d ago

lol you guys are hilarious!

But seriously, I just wish this topic would die down -_-

The new tomb raider is a huge step up from the porno's they used to be, why are we complaining about this?

Thatguy-3104307d ago

does she even get rape? I mean i just saw that she was touched inappropriately leading to her defending herself but no sexual attack was presented at all. This topic is way out of grasp.

chukamachine4307d ago

Making something out of nothing.

Kotaku is worse then IGN.

STFU already.

LOGICWINS4307d ago

I agree, these people are pretty dense. Bad guys don't do nice things. Bad guys + vulnerable attractive heroine = ??????

I'll give you a hint, its not a dinner at Red Lobster and a box of chocolates.

WeskerChildReborned4307d ago

I seriously don't understand the fuss cause rape is in movies and other form of entertainment.

BuffMordecai4306d ago

Cause every game journalist has a huge mangina.

Y_51504307d ago

It's just a major case of sexual harassment.

dark-hollow4307d ago

Of a fictional video game character....
Gawker sites are the lowest of the low.

Canthar4307d ago

It takes something pretty major to happen in some ones life to instigate the type of change Lara would be going through to become the one we know. Let it be what it is, I know a few women who have looked at it and the fact that Lara fights they viewed as empowering in its own right.

user54670074307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

"to become the one we know"

The thing is though this isn't our Lara...it's a reboot telling an "origin" story of a total differen't Lara.

That Lara in Tomb Raider 1-3 which we came to love become the person she was at the age of 21 after her plane crashed in the heart of the Himalayas on her way back from a skiing trip, she managed to survive for 2 weeks before finding a village to get help. Thats what changed her.

This Lara though is totaly differen't

Canthar4306d ago

In the beginning she is. This is suppose to be about her transformation. These traumatic events lead to that.

AngelicIceDiamond4307d ago

Kotaku making something out of nothing, Kotaku started this whole entire thing with the whole "Rape" aspect. Its funny, when everyone saw that scene, I don't think anybody saw it being OMG rape rape for say. But her being in a terrible situation that you'll be encountering in the game. But Kotaku will do anything for hits.

vikingland14307d ago

Plus she Knees the bad guy in the balls ouch! So he got what he deserved.

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Tomb Raider I, II, III Remastered Review – To The Freezer ⏐ Nerdy Bird Games

Tomb Raider I, II, III Remastered is available now on PC, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4 and 5, Xbox One, and Xbox Series X/S. Lara Croft is back in a classic remaster of the original PlayStation 1 hit title. Is the remaster any good though?

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The Best Tomb Raider Games Ranked

We've gone on many adventures with Lara Croft. With another reboot in the making, Wealth of Geeks felt it was a good time to go down the nostalgia rabbit hole and remember the best of those tomb-raiding thrills.

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Sonic188151d ago (Edited 51d ago )

I do agree that Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness was the worse one 😂 I remember playing some of it and I took it back. That game was just awful in every way. I bought it used at gamestop and glad they had that 7 day return policy for used games 😂

Pyrofire9551d ago

Would it be worth saying why?

ZeekQuattro51d ago

Simple. He's been hating on the Tomb Raider reboots for years. I can't imagine seeing them at the top of a best TR game list let alone being on the list in general sitting well with him because of it.

-Foxtrot51d ago

Zeek

“Hating”

No no, just pointing out how TR mutated into a generic action adventure game losing the appeal of what it once was when it was more about puzzles and platforming over going Rambo, slaughtering waves of enemies

But hey, continue being a dick and speaking about me like I’m not going to see the comment.

MeatyUrologist50d ago

Foxtrot, I'm curious if you have played the most recent games. Sure the 2013 reboot was hugely focused on combat, but each follow up became less and less about combat to the point where outside of a few large scale story missions I don't even remember combat being a part of shadow of the tomb raider. Shadow was so puzzle focused it actually was a bit much for me and I love the TR puzzles.

I still feel like Rise was the best of the series and I was a huge fan of the originals. To me it struck the perfect balance of exploration, platforming, puzzles, and combat. Not saying your opinion is wrong I'm just curious what you think they should have done different. Games do need to evolve somewhat to stay relevant. Would you prefer small linear jumping platform levels like the original?

RavenWolfx51d ago

I would agree Rise for 1 and the reboot as 2. Shadow is a bit high, though.

Sonic188151d ago (Edited 51d ago )

I think Shadow wasn't even develop by crystal dynamics. I thought it was the worse in the new trilogy

Pyrofire9551d ago

That's right. Shadow was developed by Eidos Montreal who who went and made Marvels Guardians of the Galaxy next. (Great game)
Meanwhile after Rise of the Tomb Raider, Crystal Dynamics made Marvels Avengers. (bad game)

MeatyUrologist51d ago

Agrees. First two are correct but Shadow should be around 5-6.

terstomp51d ago

For me, Legend should be alot higher (along with the other two ). Shadow, I enjoyed it, but has too much has fluff, as modern games tend to do. Playing the remastered series, and apart from the controls, is very good.

jznrpg51d ago

I really enjoyed the first 2 games, Legend and the first of the reboots and the rest I didn’t get into so I never finished.

robtion51d ago

Completely subjective list. I really liked Underworld, I preferred Lara's design. That said I loved the horror/uncharted feel of the reboot. I think all the TR games have strengths and weaknesses. None are objectively better in every way.

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Tomb Raider devs offer a peek at their new ‘unified’ Lara Croft

Polygon: "Tomb Raider developer Crystal Dynamics launched a new website for the franchise on Wednesday — Valentine’s Day is also Lara Croft’s birthday — with another peek at the impending “unified” design for its action heroine. New artwork of Lara sporting a post-Survivor trilogy look that evokes her classic design supports the theory that the Lara we saw last fall in Call of Duty is basically the character’s future appearance."

Christopher60d ago

Ah, back to jungle romping in a camisole and short shorts.

CobraKai59d ago

Love it. This look is iconic. Her reboot look was so generic.

VenomUK59d ago

What you talking about? This is the reboot Lara but in the original costume.

CobraKai59d ago

Yeah. And? The original costume is the important part buddy.

Vengeance113860d ago

Crystal Dynamics really going hard with the man face. They sure do hate feminine looks!

Vengeance113860d ago (Edited 60d ago )

If you honest to God think that face is feminine, says alot about you pal. Go outside and see what actual women look like. Go google Unified Lara Croft Man Face and you'll see you're in the minority thinking this looks good. This is highly masculine.

Christopher60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

***Go outside and see what actual women look like.***

Do you honestly believe I'm some freak hidden away from the world and don't have a mother, never dated, my wife isn't a woman, my daughter isn't a woman, and I work exclusively with men, some who choose to wear dresses sometimes?

***you're in the minority thinking this looks good. This is highly masculine. ***

Right. I'm in the minority. It must be me. Not online people making statements like yours.

isarai60d ago

Take your own advice Vengeance, good lord 🤦

Vengeance113860d ago

"men, some who choose to wear dresses sometimes? "

lmao, do you work at the circus? Definitely somewhere where clowns are present.

frostypants59d ago

@Vengeance maybe take your own advice and stop staring at anime all day. This doesn't look masculine at all.

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MrDead60d ago

A quick Google as to why this comment was made... Oh a twitch streamer Melonie Mac went right wing so all the brain broken little kids are following her crazy man face rants.

tracedinblood59d ago

I used to follow her, but she started getting real weird when she consumed more and more meat and talked about it on a constant basis. Her eyes bulge out of her head now and she makes the most unhinged arguments while claiming to be holy.

Meat is fine, but don't forget your veggies.

banger8860d ago

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this looks like a dude in drag.

Vengeance113860d ago

Right! Glad to see atleast 1 sane person in here.

FunAndGun59d ago

Don't be ashamed you're attracted to her.

Barlos59d ago

Yeah, it kind of does tbh

Mr_cheese59d ago

Women come in all shapes and sizes pal, femine doesn't mean being put on a pedestal in looks.

Grow up lad.

SimpleSlave59d ago

You really going hard with the man face. You sure do hate feminine looks! Cuz if you honest to god think that face is masculine, says a lot about you pal.

Go outside and see what actual women look like...

Fixed it for you, bud.

On a serious note, you do need some help. Unplug, actually go outside, and soak up the sun. You'll be surprised of how much of a none entity you have turned into. Neither a man nor a woman, but a 4chan slime.

Seriously, seek help.

H959d ago

Don't worry everyone agrees with you but they don't dare say it

thesoftware73059d ago

I think she has many masculine features, but wouldn't it make sense for what she does in game?

This is not PS1, it's a detailed model of a very built woman, who has a tough as nail edge...so yes, she has masculine features and she looks cool to me, I think the 3 Remakes were excellent, and can't wait for the next one.

Why are people looking for attraction in video game characters anyway?

H959d ago

@thesoftware730 honestly I can say the same thing to you guys?, Why do you look for realism in fiction, I can't understand that at all, people like seeing something that looks good, we all like Ryu looking like Arnold times 2 because it's cool, not because it's realistic or anything, same thing for women

RaiderNation59d ago

@Christopher he only knows what women look like from OnlyFans and Pornhub.

DrDoomer59d ago

She does kinda look like the very rational Finnish alcoholic IT cross-dresser.

isarai59d ago

Sounds like you know that category quite well.

xHeavYx59d ago

@Vengance I wonder what you look like. It would be so ironic if you were this chubby guy with an overly round face.

ZeekQuattro59d ago

I'm getting strong neckbeard vibes from him just looking at those comments. If you think average or plain Jane women look like men something is mentally wrong with you.

outsider162459d ago (Edited 59d ago )

"Go google Unified Lara Croft Man Face"

Lmao!!! Who..i mean seriously who..in their right mind would actually go the trouble to even type "Man" after Lara Croft. Jeeze..some you people need help really.

YourMommySpoils59d ago

I slightly see what you mean, but it's just concept art, so that will probably be improved.

isarai59d ago

Why would she wear an obscene amount of makeup to go out and plunder ruins? This proves even more you guys need to go touch grass and see the real world instead of E-girls

SyntheticForm59d ago

@isarai

I like your selective realism.

You could also ask why a woman would go and plunder tombs and ruins alone if you're going to go that route.

"This proves even more"

You have no better argument than I do; it's preference vs preference. I've been married for 16 years and my wife agrees - thinks Lara's face is cold and masculine.

thorstein59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

Why would she put botox in her lips that make her look like a circus clown? That look is hideous.

Women don't look like that except in AI. No wonder you're single.

SyntheticForm59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

@thorstein

Lol. Slow down and take a breather, then keep reading.

SyntheticForm59d ago

Lara always looked feminine. She looks decidedly masculine here.

https://x.com/MediaRaider19...

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smashman9859d ago (Edited 59d ago )

With all due respect (which is none at all) vengeance ur so off on this lol.

thesoftware73059d ago (Edited 59d ago )

@Vengeance

My man, she raids tombs, she scales building, mountainsides, trees, and anything else she can, she shoots guns,, fight hordes of men/women, animals, and dinosaurs, walks, runs, swims, and, swings on vines/ropes.. What do you want her to look like? Barbie?

So, I agree with you about her masculinity, but have no problem with it, for all the reasons above. Additionally, if you played the remakes(I highly enjoyed all 3)..you would see her actual physical appearance change from game to game, gaining muscle and more masculine features, the dev even had an interview talking about her change..this Laura that you see in this new artwork was always the end game.

Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and then Shadow, all the same Laura as she gets more experienced, to finally become the iconic version, with the 2 guns and short shorts.

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-Foxtrot60d ago

Great artwork but please…this unified timeline shit sounds awful

It won’t work

Classic Lara and Survivor Lara have completely different origin stories meaning they are two separate timelines you can’t unify together

I really don’t want Survivor Lara anywhere near Classic Lara.

thesoftware73059d ago

Survivor Laura in the remakes was a better character imo lol.

But, they can infact retcon, and unify everything. Take note of the remakes, they were always leaning into Laura becoming the, 2 guns, short shorts wearing version, just a more fleshed out, better written and more believable version of the old one.

-Foxtrot58d ago

How? She just whined and whined

Then you think after her progress near the end of the first reboot game the sequel would continue that but she goes back to her old self

The same then happens in the third game but now she’s arrogant and a bit of an arsehole at times especially to Jonah.

First game - Become the Tomb Raider

Second game - Become the Tomb Raider

Third game - Become the Tomb Raider

They are completely different timelines they can’t be merged, even the origin stories are totally different

It’s just a bad idea

Make a new universe or continue the original one

isarai60d ago

As long as she had dual guns, and doesn't whine all the damn time. They really dropped the ball with the new lara, had such a good start and didn't know what to do with it.

Christopher60d ago

She wines a lot less in the 2nd and 3rd game (she's pretty solid on her goals in the 3rd), but, yeah, lots of whining in that first one. It's not that she whined, it's when she whined at times. At some point, you have to recognize you're not in Kansas anymore, but she still had some moments pretty late in the 1st game.

thesoftware73059d ago

She was new to Tomb Raiding in the first remake...she progressively became more confident, muscular and experienced in each game.

So the "whining" sort of made sense...even though I would call it inexperienced.

OtterX60d ago

Yea, I actually really loved the moment in 2013 Tomb Raider where Lara truly transforms into the badass, blows the fort doors down shouting "That's right, run you bastards! I'm coming for you all!"
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I thought hey, there we go! She's become the Tomb Raider!

......bbbuuuuut then she reverts back to the whiney-ness immediately at the start of Rise of the Tomb Raider all over again. I never made it far enough for her to return to that confident Lara again, but the character evolution was just terrible IMO. Inconsistent.

Lexreborn259d ago

Whining wasn’t my issue with Laura in new games. The issue I had was the extreme homicidal aspects of her, she went from “surviving” treacherous scenarios in the 1st one to just straight up going to action murdering trinity.

Even to the point of flooding an entire town to “stop” trinity. She murdered a crap ton of innocent people.

And she also wouldn’t listen to reason from anybody else for the sake of her goals. I could never fully attach to her and it’s why the 3rd game is still unfinished for me.

I also remember when they were supposedly designing gameplay that gave you options for stealth but 0 scenarios in the game truly allowed you to progress without killing a wave of enemies. So that was just flat false advertising for me.

outsider162459d ago

Yeah she whines alot. You'd think by a third game..her whining would lessen but nope. Only reason i put it up with that..is because its a reboot and you know..before her roots.

No excuse now...

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BrainSyphoned59d ago

The Call of Duty version?! Surely there is a Fortnite version they can use instead to really nail the feel.

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