Greg Miller of IGN writes, "The other day, I was helping Call of Duty expert Bobby Amos get a PS3 hooked up at his desk, and a lengthy firmware update began. He rolled his eyes and said "This is why I hate PlayStation." And... I couldn't argue. I could've pointed out the Xbox updates I sit through or how hard I think it is to find things on the Live Marketplace, but I didn't, because Bobby's right. The PlayStation hardware on the market right now is not player friendly -- it's not designed with the idea of you plugging it in and it being easy to use."
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Firmware update??? You can update when that update comes out... that easy. Why wait till you get a new game???
And even if you do update, it doesnt take that long...
Damn, some people just need to nit pick...seriously this gen has gone to sh*t with all these lame articles.
Both platforms handle the download of software and fw updates differently.
I will admit that when I got the ps3 I complained that it did things differently than the 360. I got over it. I like both and if more people were to experience both objectively there would be less bickering and complaining about why this does that or that one doesnt do this.
Both platforms have changed so much since launch that if we were to look back at where they started we would more appreciative at what they offer now.
but i guess there will always be those you just cant please. no matter what.
Probably because I have PS Plus. It updates while I sleep :P
But when I used to update, it took, literally, no more than 5 minutes.
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@Prince_Dim-Lu
What kind of cheap ass mics are you using? My Sony ones are pretty good ....Oh wait, you're a TROLL, nvm. Nice comment history by the way.
The only problem with your comment is this quote "So how many Sony apologists are we going to see now?". See you set things up with a comment like that.
You wish for a mature discussion on this topic yet you blow that chance out the window with the very first sentence you write. This is not the way to do things. This is not mature.
The more Sony hears about customers wanting fewer firmware updates, cross-game chat, automatic trophy syncing, etc., the better the PS4 is likely to be.
Even if you're such a religious fan of Sony that the thought of owning another console is morally offensive to you, you should understand that Sony has to pull in normal people as well as hardcore gamers in order to make a decent profit, and many of these issues *do* matter to normal people (my casual gamer, PS3-only owning friends have made the same complaints plenty of times).
Sony isn't ignoring the hardcore, so there's no reason to fret over them improving "nitpicks" that matter to non-hardcore folks.
Weird comparison I know, but really.
Hmmm... looks like you're calling me out as a "Sony fan". You seem to have mistaken me for yourself... See, I game on all consoles and I'm not afraid to give props to a company when they do something right, or be critical when they do something wrong. But my above statement was just a simple fact... PS+ will auto update and patch for those who have the service. Nothing "Sony fan" about it. But you go on to post a link to a story that's not even relevant because you don't like Sony for some reason. Seems very hypocritical.
But next-gen, Sony should just come completely hard and realize they can't just ride on the Sony nor Playstation brand name anymore and except it to sell itself. There are some serious competitors now unlike the PS2 era. Booooy were they running the PS2 era haha
Rule 1 Customers don't know what they want.
is pretty terrible.
Obviously the games are great....but the OS software and accompanying apps and settings, including the browser....they are pretty horrible.
If there's any doubt....I challenge anyone to download GIANT BOMB'S latest podcast, then listen to an hour, turn off your PS3, then turn it BACK ON, and try and get back to where you left off. You will immediately see one of Sony's weaknesses. Even their MP3 software is like something out off the 90's.
From what I've come to understand, the Japanese in general are pretty behind Software wise, and also behind in Internet social features and services.
Unfortunately, that describes both Sony & Nintendo to a tee (it's gonna be waaayyy worse for Nintendo btw)
For the PS4....Sony needs to let their American Sony branches handle all things Software related.
America has software
Trust me, I agree that they're a bit behind the ball on browsers, but at least some things are there to complain about, right?
As far as who should handle the OS end, I actually think the European team would be best. They have the best social features on the Web of anyone out there. The U.S. is horrible in that regards as well.
But the overall functionality, is only that....functional.
I know it very well, because from Feb - May, my computer went down, and I was using my PS3 to browse at home. It's pretty bad bro.
But, I hear you....better than nothing.
But I disagree with you. I mean US tech companies practically runs the internet. Also, Sony has more offices and employees in the US than any other country outside of Asia, and obviously Europe is not a centralized country.
Also, I'm thinking, some Google integration would be nice.....Sony's Bay Area (Silicon Valley) office is about 15-20 mins away from Googles.
Just sayin.
i could give a crap what the 360 can't do..i don't have one..i only care about what the ps3 can and can't do..
so for a base of argument and just the sake of trying to make a better console next gen..stick to topic..
As far as my comments about Europe, that was in regards to the internal software developers. IMHO, they are the best out of America, Japan, or Europe. Their Web-based social elements are miles ahead, they have the developers who build the most social and interactive elements (LBP), and so on.
As far as software downloading and updating, they should just have SOE manage all of that. DC Universe Online is ridiculously fast to install/update and is smooth as hell. It took me only an hour and a half to download and install the initial 18GB file and updates rarely take more than 10 minutes and tend to be almost 1GB in size.
either way if you're complaining about waiting 5 minutes just for a firmware/game update then you seriously need to get your life in order lol, there's a lot more pressing matters in life that are more upsetting then updates on the ps3.
That's what the article is about and its most definitely true. Sony will hopefully learn to change this architecture for psn for ps4
I swear over half the complaints I see on N4G comment sections for any game/system/service are just pure ignorance or lack of knowledge, but put out there with so much compassion and emotion that really has no basis other then inside their own mind.
I don't have any issues with playstation, I would like a stronger network, but when it's free it's hard to complain about it.
I mean, it's a simple ~5 minute firmware download on a moderately fast internet connection, for god's sake. How do these same people sit through an MP3 download on iTunes or Amazon when they buy a new album online? How do PC gamers sit through 7GB+ game downloads and/or installs whenever they want to buy a new game?
Call me a "Sony apologist" if you want. I call you a Sony hater who wants to nitpick things to whine about. It's not like a PS3 firmware update happens every week, or even once a month. It's an incredibly trivial nuisance.
I once knew someone (an adult) literally had a "temper tantrum" just because their phone had to reboot to update their software to play some apps. A coworker once told me those people who act like that or complain have contracted ACADD (Artificially Created Attention Deficit Disorder).
I've recently move in with my partner, her family have a PS3 but they've never had the internet until now. I set up their account, put in LBP2 and waited for all the updates to finish.
This was fine until they started to complain about how long it was taking and yet it didn't seem to enter into their brains that it's only because they've NEVER connected their console to the internet before, of course there are going to be a back log of updates.
Which explains the COD boom this generation
"I don't have a problem waiting for updates. Some people just don't have the patience. They want everything fast."
Exactly..100% agreement
I mean does people really want to make a problem waiting for 5 to 10 min's for an update to play a game, when that's the whole reason they were going to waste their time on something about entertainment anyway?
you are going to be playing a game!
I remember waiting to game on BBS's and i could not connect for over a half an hour waiting just to get into the game.
i look at it this way..if some gamer's are that upset waiting on 5 or 10 min's extra to play a game that frankly, they were going to waste time playing a game anyway. Maybe gaming on a PS3 is not for them. They maybe better off in playing another game system.
If they are getting that frustrated about it, maybe could you imagine if there was no game systems to be had for them to game on?
I should know, when i was growing up there was no Game system's Hell there was just Pong at one time..LMAO
atari 800XL..you want to wait for thing's to boot up..lol
Many "GAMER'S" TODAY ARE SPOILED!
BE THANKFUL YOU EVEN HAVE THESE THING'S
before there was even computer generated games there was Pen AN Paper games with imagination!
It would not shock me if the entire world got hit by an EMP like it did in escape from LA that many gamer's would be still clinching their Game pads waiting for the power to come back on, sweat dripping from their forehead. waiting just like Al bundy waiting in front of his door for a
pizza hut pizza that peg never ordered!
LMAO
But yeah, can't have people criticizing anything Sony related on N4G, can we? Not even when it's the Playstation editor of IGN...
Some of you guys are just too much with your blind fanboyism.
The way I see this article is that the complaints are so small that it could be seen as pro Sony. Especially since these are the 'most powerful problems.'
Having said that though to say 'this is why I hate playstation' like the guy in the article did is pretty ridiculous and is the frivolous cry of the person who never games on playstation and are looking for any excuse. From my experience it's usually americans and brits trying to be hipsters by playing xbox online.
http://n4g.com/news/996953/...
Now, I'd like to know your logic for why negative PS3 articles get approved...
IGN: I'm bored (twiddles thumbs) Lets bash PlayStation!
See that Greg miller is IGNs play station man.. He loves playstation.. He was just mentioning some annoying things about the console.. Nothing more nothing less.
plus the abstract of the article wich i read shows an argument that is faulty
"He loves playstation."
but is that not the inside joke?
"That's noble in a way, but the clear choice for an informed consumer is to skip the PlayStation Store. That's not a mindset you want next generation as the digital marketplace becomes all the more important."
skip the store?
"informed consumer"
who's informing them you Greg Miller?
because it's not upto Someone's standards, they should skip it because they are "informed" ?
right on there buddy.
look at me ooh wow i have an opinion, about a product that i did not make, and want to be made better.
hey here is a d@mn clue post your over inflated EGO of comments on the d@mn official playstation Blog. where the people that can work on it and , work to fix those issues!
but..but the more people we get to go along those lines the more Sony will put forth an effort to fix them..right?
Greg...
"In a way, the PlayStation.Blog.Share has backfired. Initially started to give users a voice, the site now stands as a monument to how unable Sony is to iterate on its hardware. Not only have the items above been at the top of the list forever, an IGN article two years ago endorsed a number of suggestions on the Share site and only two of them them have come true (PS2 games, new avatars). Re-reading the article, many of the items from above pop-up and are joined by similarly cumbersome items like the inability to charge PS3 controllers in standby mode and delete Trophies at zero percent.
Why advertise what the system can't do but fans want?"
backfired huh? Sony not working fast enough for you?
you can be a @sshole Greg; but do you really have to be the entire @ss as well?
that's my thought's on Greg and his entire "playstation" fanboy claim he tries to claim. but yet...im not seeing How he's a fanboy of anything playstation.
but that's what it is; is it not Greg?, the Inside joke?
on the playstation fans...making fun of fans of playstation.
Beyond.
..its not laughing with us its laughing at us...many are not that d@mn stupid there sparky.
I know im not.
continue on though, you Seem to entertain many people it seems. Good for you.
/end of article.
Just epic.
The updates usually take a few seconds and you can just search for whatever you want on bing.
And you can google search right from the xmb.
Since when has the dpad been crappy, its worked the same for me since the 90's dude.
Lack of exclusives? Are you braindead? God of war, killzone, lbp, infamous, AND the upcoming the last of us. Just to name a few.
1. Why do you pledge loyalty and allegiance to a corperation who doesn't care about you and care about shareholders?
2. Why are people called "idiots" if they don't agree with your views on Sony?
Surprised the mods haven't taken all your bubbles away. Oh well, in due time I guess.
Kind of a retarded question.
Hence derives the word "fan", which is what he is. If fans were to not exist, then society wouldn't be plagued with shit by Bieber.
It was a well read, some of the issues were pretty non-existent, but still.
I hope Sony streamlines this stuff out next gen, it's too late to fix these issues for the PS3.
Like installs for everything you download, I shouldn't have to install the game. Just make it download and play, please!
If you want to talk about some serious problems with the ps3 why dont we talk about the practically useless internet browser, i mean seriously, my phone runs internet better than my ps3. And I dont think anyone can say that my ps3 shouldnt have more power than my samsung galaxy prevail from boost mobile.
Remember it does everyting, Just not everything as good as other devices.
I have owned a PS3 since January 2007. By now I am used to everything. I expect every game I buy to have a patch to install before I play it. So I a lot some extra time for it to install before I play. I do what that age old cartoon said and I play a game on my ps vita or PSP while it installs. Once it's done I plat the game and delete it.
All of my movies I buy from the store and rip it to my PSP or ps vita. I like the artwork on the covers. Even hd versions.
The more you know the more you get out of the things you buy. But today's consumers are just lazy. So Microsoft pretty much preyed upon that and look at what they have. Sony just needs to advance themselves in the r and d department a little bit and find that we like advancements with ease of use.
you know ps3 is awesome when this is all they can nitpick about lol
(it would be nice on ps4 to dl updates in the background)
LONG LIVE PLAY
Still wouldn't mind seeing the digital games come a little closer in price to the physical copies sold at amazon/best buy/etc....there is no middleman. No physical product to release, it's bandwidth and then profit.
It would be so nice if I could pause a game and browse the store, without quitting the game.
I'm pretty sure this will be taken care of next console along with other issues. Vita has none of these problems the PS3 has....well...firmware and downloading is still slow. Would be nice to start the install prior to completing the download...
I'm a Plus member, you know what that means? It means my system can update itself and games without me have to sit their and watch it. Problem fix cry baby and last I check, 360 was a pain to watch update too (yeah it might not take as long, but its mostly because the 360's updates aren't that big).