GameZone writes: Just last year, Gears of War 3 sold more copies than virtually every PS3 exclusive that released. This includes the masterpiece Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Twisted Metal, Infamous 2, Motorstorm Apocalypse, and Socom 4. While you may think that it’s because there are more 360s (67 million) than PS3s (65 million) worldwide, the numbers show that this isn’t the case. So why do 360 exclusives sell better than PS3 exclusives? Well let's take a look.
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Sony produces the most highest selling exclusive genres over Xbox.
MGS4- highest selling stealth game, Splinter Cell can't compete
God of War 3- highest selling hack & slash game, Ninety Nine Nights and Ninja Blade don't cut it
Motorstorm- highest selling arcade racer, PGR and Race Pro can't compete
GT5- highest selling racing sim, Forza can't compete
LBP- highest selling platformer, Banjo Nuts & Bolts can't compete
MLB: The Show- highest selling baseball game, MLB 2k can't compete
If Xbox exclusives sold so well then why did Kinect Star Wars, The Gunstringer, Rise of Nightmares, Sesame Street, Disneyland Kinect, Kinect rush, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Race Pro, Stoked, and The Last Templar all flop hard?
The latest Xbox exclusive is Steel Battallion, let's see how it sells.
Also, you mention MLB: The Show. That's a multi-platform game just like MLB 2K is.
You dug pretty deep to find your list of 360 "flops". I'd compare those "flops" to PS3 games like Start the Party & TV Superstars any day (or would you like to forget that those exclusives also exist?).
As for this article, the reason that makes the most sense is the first one.
"Less is more" is not necessarily true. I seriously doubt that had Uncharted 3 or Killzone 3 been the only exclusive game to "get" for the PS3 that year it would have sold Gears numbers. Same would go for one of Microsofts lower selling titles like Alan Wake or Forza 4. Had either of those games been the game to "get in their respective years for the 360 I doubt they'd sell 3 million in their first a week. Same implies the other way around as well. If MS had 20 exclusives one year and Halo was among those exclusives you can bet that Halo would still sell extremely well. Same for Sony with Gran Turismo.
Xbox live has NOTHING to with the PS3 sooooo I don't get how that can be a reason why PS3 exclusives sell less...
Marketing plays a big role in why MS exclusives sell better, but I think it's more that MS has found franchises that appeal to a large portion of 360 owners. Sony does have games in UC, GoW, and GT that appeal to a good portion of PS3 owners, but neither of those games are doing Halo or Gears week one numbers. Sony lost a lot of their third party exclusives that appealed to a lot of PS owners. Had the PS3 still had those, this argument of why 360 exclusives sell better than Sony exclusives would be in reverse.
We can speculate all we want about why one outsells the other. It doesn't really matter anyway it's just sales. Not every games is going to sell 10 million copies lifetime, that is reality.
Resistance sells 8 million through 3 games
Heavy Rain has sold over 2 million through 1 game
Uncharted has sold over 18 million through 3 games
Infamous has sold over 5 million through 2 games
Little Big Planet has sold over 8 million through 2 games
Motorstorm has sold over 6 million through 3 games
Ratchet and Clank has sold over 6 million through 4 games
Metal Gear Solid 4 has sold over 6 million through 1 game
Mag has sold over 1.5 million games through 1 game
Deamon's Souls sold over 1.5 million through 1 game
God of War has sold over 7 million through 2 games
and last but not least
GT5 has sold over 12 million through 2 games.
So in total sony exclusives have done 86 million in terms of sales. IF you would add psn games like journey, flower, wipeout, superstardust I think it can make it to 90 million+.
From reading below I would say that xbox exclusives tops 70 million at the most.
I won't include move or kinect exclusives. But when both are added I can still see the ps3 having a 10 million lead at the most.
If a 360 exclusive is coming out, you'll see it at Burger King, you'll see it on a Mtn Dew bottle, you'll see a dozen commercials every day for it, you'll see advertisements on every major gaming website, you'll see magazine ads, billboards, etc.
If a PS3 exclusive is coming out, you'll be lucky if you hear about it two weeks AFTER it launches. Microsoft simply does a better job of advertising their big games. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose.
I saw the title of this article and instantly thought about advertising. That has always been Microsoft's strongest weapon. MS's commercials are pretty damn good too.
The biggest reason why i didn't want to comment on this article is because this question has been asked A BILLION TIMES and has been debunked A BILLION TIMES come to think of it i haven't heard this argument since 2010, its in the same ballpark as the famous myth "deerrrp derp PS3 owners don't buy teh gamezz" which has also been debunked countless number of times.
The reason why im commenting is because you have a valid point thats usually overlooked , Microsofts marketing is ridiculous prime example Halo 3, does anyone remember the 2 weeks before Halo 3 the game was everywhere, from soda cans, to billboards commercials every 5 minutes i think everyday g4 were doing a special on it like everyday, it was like the 2nd comming
Bottom line this question is boring, lame, and dated and this article belongs in 2007-2008.
I say the same about Sorcery....lol
MLB: The Show is a PS3 exclusive, developed by Sony's first-party studios. Feel free to purchase a copy and see how well it boots up in your 360.
You'd be wrong. Kinect adventures has sold ~19 million alone. The gears series has sold at least 18 million - say 6mil each conservatively, halo 3/odst/reach has sold about 25 million conservatively, forza 2/3/4 about 9 million, Dance central 1/2 about 5 mil. That alone equals roughly 76 million right there. There are literally dozens of other retail 360 exclusives. Add in XBLA games which sell waaaaaaay more than PSN games, and there is no way the PS3 has sold more exclusive software. No way.
My Xbox numbers came from tcg returns plus another 30million for errors sake. Also should I mention the jap ps3 exclusives then huh? All in all ps3 has the better sales of exclusive games PERIOD. Why don't you guys come up with numbers if you are so sure that Xbox is winning ehh. I came up with mine so try doing the same.
As a die hard racing fan I love Gran Turismo. Bought a launch ps3 for it and it alone. GT5 prologue was nothing more than a demo for GT5 and it was criminal that Sony used GT fans to turn a quick buck. Microsoft had two Forza games and two Project Gotham Racing games out before GT5 even hit. By the end of 2012 MS will have SIX racing games out and they have already sold over 13 Million combined, the 360 is a far better plaform for the racing fan. Only thing I would have wished out of MS is another iteration of rallisport challenge. Of course, iRacing on pc still blows everything on any console out of the water.
That's something someone ought to do to settle this. It looks like there are some pretty good and accurate number crunchers here, but I don't know if brand loyalty would taint their results.
If you've ever talked to scientists who worked at NASA or, more accurately, scientists who rely upon data from NASA you see the same skewing of data like gaming fans because of their beliefs on various subjects. The honest scientist is in the minority when it comes to academia.
If you want to see a textbook example of number skewing, see if you can find the NOVA documentary named "Venus Unveiled" on youtube. The telling comment comes from Don Turcotte when he states:
"...of course a good geophysicist can model gravity in such a way that he or she can get any answer that they're looking for".
One side took hard data and skewed it hard to get the results they wanted. How do you get such differences in crust thickness using one set of numbers? Less than 10km to maybe over 100km thickness for Venus? Disgusting.
That really wasn't on topic, but it's really funny to me how truth is so objective, but people are so subjective. :)
example why:
Microsoft: 3exclusives and 100ppl
100/3=33ppl
Sony: 10exclusives and 100ppl
100/10=1ppl
that is why
Other than the math fail (:P), that's pretty much the reason. And better marketing, of course.
Halo 3 : 11 mill
Halo Odst : 6 mill
Halo reach : 9 mill
Gears of war : 6 mill
Gears of war 2 : 6 mill
Gears 3 : 5.5 mill
Forza 3 : 5 mill
Fable III 4.8 mill
Alan wake : 1 mill
Lost odessey .80 mill
Blue Dragon .850 mill
Lips .73 mill
These are all the highest sellers.
http://www.vgchartz.com/pla...
Highest being the halo gears forza fable yearly serving.
PS3 wise..
GT5: 7.66 mill
MGS4: 5.64 mill
UC2: 5.60 mill
LBP : 5 mill
GOW: 4. mill
UC3: 4. mill
UC: DF: 4. mill
GT5P: 4 mill
Resistance: 4 mill
Sports champions: 3 mill
Killzone 2: 2 mill
LBP 2 : 2 mill
Ratchet TOD: 2 mill
KZ3 : 2 mill
Infamous: 2 mill
Heavy rain: 2 mill
And a few more sitting at a steady mill.(Infamous 2, heavenly sword, R2 etc)
http://www.vgchartz.com/pla...
I think it is safe to say, 360s exclusives sell more because there is less of them.For every halo or gears there is 2-3 PS3 exclusives competing with each other.
It only looks that way because you conveniently forgot 360 exclusives like Project Gotham Racing 4 at nearly 2 million, and Kinect Sports at over 4 million (which is extremely biased considering you included Move Sports Champions on the PS3 list). You also forgot the 1+ million selling Viva Pinata, which adds yet another genre to the list of top selling 360 exclusives.
It's pretty funny how you jumped from Fable III at 4.8 million all the way down to Alan Wake at 1 million. Meanwhile, your PS3 list has numerous titles in the 2 million range.
If you made a fair list, and didn't bulk up the PS3 exclusives while omitting major 360 exclusives, you'd see that your theory has no merit. As I said in another post, even when there were 10-12 360 exclusives per year, the top games STILL sold very well.
It was tedious enough skimming through both those consoles lists and finding the exclusives.
In my points defensive, there is many, many more PS3 games at the 1mill range that i didnt bother adding.
You included the bundled Sports Champions for PS Move but conveniently missed the 360's overall top selling title, the bundled Kinect Adventures? Your intentions were very clear. If you are going to blatantly manipulate the lists, then it's not too smart to include a source to your numbers. Here are all the 360 exclusives that you conveniently excluded:
16.65M - Kinect Adventures!
4.33M - Kinect Sports
4.05M - Fable II
3.98M - Forza Motorsport 2
3.47M - Left 4 Dead 2
3.08M - Left 4 Dead
2.75M - Dance Central
2.61M - Mass Effect
2.24M - Forza Motorsport 4
2.14M - Halo Wars
1.97M - Dead Rising
1.97M - Kinect Sports: Season Two
1.96M - Splinter Cell: Conviction
1.95M - Project Gotham Racing 4
1.84M - Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
1.67M - Crackdown
1.66M - Dance Central 2
1.56M - Viva Pinata
I'll just stop there, because I think I've made my point. You expect me to believe you dove so deep down into the list to find Alan Wake and Blue Dragon, and somehow missed all the above titles? LOL....
- Dance Central: 2.75 million
- Dance Central 2: 1.7 million
- Forza 4: 2.24 million
- Halo CEA: 1.64 million
- Fable II: 4.05 million
- Splinter Cell Convistion: 2 million
- Kinect Sports: 4.33 million
- Kinect Sports 2: 2 million
- Kinectimals: 1.3 million
- Kinect Joy Ride: 1.2 million
- Your Shape: 1.2 million
- Mass Effect: 2.6 million
- PGR 4: 2 million
- Crackdown: 1.7 million
- Halo Wars: 2.2 million
- Left 4 Dead: 3.1 million
- Left 4 Dead 2: 3.5 million
- Saints Row 2.2 million
- Dead Rising: 2 million
- Minecraft 2 Million
- Call of Duty 2: 1.8 Million
- Trials HD: 2 Million
- Fruit Ninja Kinect: 1.3 Million
- Geometry Wars: 1 Million
If oyu come up with: I can play them on my PC! You are basically saying that the PS3 neeeds at least a $400 gaming PC to compete with the 360. I did not include Kinect Adventures for obvious reasons. You used Sports Champion, but whatever makes you happy.
Uhm. I can play lots of PS3 games on my Vita? So..
Halo 3:2007
Halo Wars:2008
Halo 3 ODST(supposedly a DLC for H3 but sold as a full game):2009
Halo Reach:2010
Halo 1 Anniversary:2011
Halo 4:2012
That's exactly 6 Halos in 6 years, & don't come up with that "halo 1 doesn't count"... Despite not being really milked, there's already 3 Forza games available plus Horizon is on the way when Forza 4 doesn't even have a year on the market!!!!!
Microsoft is basically relying more on the same IPs that could help em sell more, mostly Halo, so they and their fanboys could justify their dominance.... Also, every time I see an article praising the Xbox by someone named Alex with w.e. last name, I think its actually Alex Osborn who's actually a real big fanboy and attention whore!!!!!!
Disclaimer and clarifications for those that will be butt-hurt: I have both systems and while I do prefer the PS3 over the 360, it doesn't mean I hate the 360...I love some of their exclusives, but the cold truth to that answer is that there are more 360 owners that do not own both systems as I and some others do, and they are generally so "tunnel visioned", "brainwashed",and oblivious to the fact that there are just as good and better alternatives to their precious "One" console of choice. Microsoft has had a lead in console numbers from the beginning, but Sony is right with them now...even after the huge headstart the 360 had at the start of this gen.
Its all just how you turn the glass to look through it.
I can flip the glass and then I see Halo dominated the likes of Resistance and/or Killzone. Gears has managed to outshine Uncharted over the years even though both are great games....
Oh and I refuse to click and read such an obvious site hit title.
sry but idont like playing a game with one of the worst story this gen (if it has any) with typical boring bodybuilding american marines
uncharted has a good story,better acting,more likeable characters and ofc better sound and graphics by miles
gears is more for kids now wonder it sold better
Is someone really going to try and tell me Xbox has a God of War clone that outsold God of War 3?
Or can someone tell me what Sony shooter outsells Halo?
Again my point...not every exclusive on the 360 outsells Sony's...nor is it a sure thing that Sony's exclusives will outsell the 360's...
this is not difficult to understand, but for some reason some people 'need' it to be too difficult to understand
I know the disagrees will role in, but that's the simple and accurate answer
I know it's a convenient excuse to say that 360 exclusives sell well ONLY because there's so few of them to choose from, but history has proven that's not the case at all.
I'm talking about now, not before MS deserted 360 owners with Kinect2 the quality of PS3 games is higher and more diverse. we can argue this all day but PS3 owners just can't believe the arrogance of MS and 360 fans. exclusives on the 360 do well because there are few of them. PS3 owners aren't locked into franchises in the same way. the PS3 is an everyman's console and so the sales figures reflect that.
Show me sales figures of the 360 exclusive that is similar to LBP or a racing game that's similar to GTA or an action game that's similar to Uncharted, or a platformer that's similar to RAC, or a LIVE game that's similar to Journey. It goes on and on and yet, just like the sales figures, the 360 fans carry on as if all is well and dandy.
you all rejoiced at the sales figures of Kinect for instance without once stopping to contemplate what that success would bring. MOVE is an alternative for the diverse userbase of the PS3, whilst Kinect is a replacement and all you have left now is a grasping at straws as the back of MS gaming industry is broken with games like Starwars and Battalion.
if you are a 360 owner, you are a casual user. get used to it or buy another console, multiplats are NOT a reason to own a certain console, the exclusives are
You are implying with your fruit analogy that Halo, Gears, and Forza (obviously the apples, pears, & oranges that you refer to) sell well only because there is little else to choose from, while sales of PS3 exclusives are smaller individually because they are spread among many different titles.
Like I said, history has proven that theory wrong. Halo, Gears and Forza ALWAYS sell well, regardless of whether there are two or ten other exclusives to choose from.
If you meant something else with your fruit analogy, I'd like to know what it is.
The number of consoles sold is almost identical (67M VS 65M, but overall xbox owners are purchasing more games on average (producing a higher tie-ratio), and there is a bigger selection of games (feel free to count them in mobygames/metacritic/vgchartz/ wikipedia/gameranking) - so the result is that there are just more games sold overall. It's simple math which proves your statement wrong.
Why is this happenning? One can only throw multiple theorms at the wall: are xbox owners richer and can afford more games? Are PS owners using their console as a bluray player and focus on movies instead of games so they have to split their income? Are the xbox games perceived as better games by the target audience and therefore sell better? Is it because of bigger marketing spending from MS behalf? Without any data to back any of these up (for example marketing budgets spending of each company, or statistics about income or number of PS owner spending on Bluray movies) You can only make guesses on the actual reason behind these facts.
This assumption is also wrong since the data contradicts it. Of course that "really good" is a personal preference, but if we take the critic average for the entire list of games available for each platform than the Xbox games and PS games have a very similar average: some are good and some are bad.
If you only have 60 bucks to spend on a game you have to choose. Last year it was gears. This year it's Halo4. Really none of this matter because COD numbers multiplat numbers are out pace any exclusive out there. BF3 too. But quality wise, it really goes to Sony.
GT5 is a massive seller and, so every PS3 exclusive sells better than 360 exclusives.
That's the logic here.
Seriously.
MS has most of it's marketshare in one place (the US).
People from there are brought up with guns in their lives unlike other countries so naturally they enjoy gun games more.
Where as Sony are big in many diverse regions that enjoy many different types of games. None of which are as big as US. Which is why a lot of different games sell well but don't have the huge spikes like Halo and Gears.
The article pretty much answers the writers question in the opening paragraph. Variety and more choices make a difference.
Plus they're great games.
I got the funk in my cheeze....I got the funk......in my cheeze...
....I SAID I GOT THE FUNK IN MY MFING CHEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!!
BTW, you guys that care about this nonsense needs a g/f. Seriously look at Strongman and Raytraceme above rushing to get some numbers on here. LMAO! Seriously? You actually took the time and surfed the web for answers? What a couple of dingle berries.
/s
While I would agree that quibbling over this nonsense is utterly pointless and serves only to fuel more articles like it, the idea that anyone who participates in it has no girlfriend or "life" exists only in adolescent minds, and the minds of the have-nots, because I can assure you that even people with girlfriends and "lives" are capable of joining in on internet pissing contests. Having a girlfriend is not a measure of maturity and doesn't "fix" your life somehow, and honestly, only people who have little experience with such things would assume so.
Well I'll go ahead and take my medal, Thank you very much and you know what?...
...I GOT THE FUNK IN MY MFING CHEEEEEEZE!
:)
Ontopic:
I think PS3 sold more software already in 2009. Exclusives sell so that we get sequels so I don't care really. If I would care you would need some data to prove this claim. Not clicking on the article that's for sure.
Maths never lies and the numbers say you're wrong.
Not to mention xbox live membership a year is 40$ so x that by how many people who have been ripped off by it i think sony may have earnt more honest money not mention more people download games of PSN and there isn't an awfull lot of information on digital sales i dont think atm.
It's the only reason I have a 360 in the first place. Well Gears 3 (only game i own on 360). You can't really count Kinect adventures because it came bundled with Kinect. Also you 360 has far less exclusives to choose from.
My PS3 tho is complete exclsuive titles( god of war,uncharted,killzone,little big planet, etc...)
And well 360"s online is eaiser for Me to connect with many of my friends at the same time.
This day and age exclusives don't matter late generation since third party games are on par with exclusives.
On the other hand owning all the Xbox exclusives in a given year isn't that difficult, and considering the exclusives are 99.9% of the time from 1 of 3 well established franchises (Halo, Forza, Gears) it's not that much of a SHOCKER.
On the other hand, the PS3 age groups seem to care less about what their friends do, they play whatever the heck they want. "I buy [insert any PS3 game here] because my friends does." You don't see that being said very often. Hence, the sales are spread out.
Just an observation from me.
But your spot on for the most part, 360 - Follow the leader; PS3 - Do your own thing.
( oh and the fact that I prefere halo to any other game on offer on ps3)
Plus, many people prefer the xBox controller instead of the dualshock controller.
And for you fanboys saying Uncharted has sold 18 mil on PS3, they haven't. More like 13 million.....while the gears series on xbox 360 has sold over 18 million. That alone beats any exclusive series on ps3.
"xbox exclusives are more enjoyable", followed by a statement about PS3 fanboys.
As I said above, N4G is always good for a laugh.
Outside of Halo, Gears, Forza and maybe Fable(Im too lazy to check that one.) They don't sell well in comparison to Sony exclusives.
The only reason why PS3 exclusives don't get that rocket in sales that Xbox360's does is varity. PS3 users have more to choose from so not all of us run out to buy every game day and date. Playstation exclusives are more of a slow burn because of that but they do sell very well. (Not all mind you but most)
Then again this is just a flame bait article so whatever.
360: 7 Franchises
Halo 3 = 12 mil
Halo:Reach = 9 mil
Halo wars = 2.15 mil
Halo combat evolved: = 1,84
Halo 3:ODST = 6 mil
Gears of war 2 = 6,5 mil
Gears of war 1 = 6 mil
Gears o war 3 = 5,4 mil
Fable 3 = 4,8 mil
Fable 2 = 4 mil
Left for dead 2 = 3,5 mil
Left for dead 1 = 3 mil
Forza 2 = 4 mil
Forza 4 = 2,25 mil
Crackdown= 1,7 mil
Alan wake = 1,15 mil
= 73,29 millions
Ps3: 14 Franchises
Uncharted 2 =5,63 mil
Uncharted 3 = 4,39 mil
Uncharted 1 = 4,23
God of war 3 = 4,39 mil
God of war Collection = 2,5 mil
Gran turismo 5 = 7,66 mil
GT 5:PL = 4.09
Infamous = 2.21 mil
Infamous 2 = 1,21 mil
MGS4= 5,65 mil
LBP = 4,86 mil
LBP2 = 2,56 mil
Motorstorm: Pacif rift = 1,21 mil
Motorstorm = 3,74
Restiance 1 = 4.06 mil
Resistence 2 = 2,32 mil
Resistance 3 = 1,14 mil
Killzone 2 = 2,85
Killzone 3 = 2,27 mil
Heavy rain = 2,14 mil
Demon souls = 1,61 mil
Ratchet and clank:TOD = 2,37 mil
Ratchet and clank:ACIT = 1,61 mil
MAG= 1,24 mil
Modnation racers = 1 mil
= 77,04 millions
edit:
Kinect Sports Season 1 = 4.33 million
Kinect Sports Season 2 = 1.97 million
Dance Central 1 = 2.75 million
Dance Central 2 = 1.66 million
Kinectimals = 1.25 million
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Crackdown 2 = 1.01 million
Forza 3 = 5.07 million
So really there are 7 more games you left off that have over 16+ million in sales...
To be fair Sports Champions for PS3 move sold 3.26 million
PS3 - 15 titles & 80.3 million
360 - 14 titltes & 91.33 million
Unique and interesting games on the 360 die a slow death. How in the hell does Alan Wake sell JUST a million in almost 2 years? What about Metro 2033?
Outside of the 2 main franchises, MS's exclusives do average to poor sales.
Lastly, Wii Fit kills all console exclusives so this whole Xbox vs. PS3 argument is irrelevant.
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Four words Hicken, why are you here?
lol@LevelHead assuming what SillyBastid meant, and getting it wrong.
There was a time when we couldn,t care less on wich platform we were playing, or wich one had the best graphic, sound, controls...etc
as long as we had fun we couldn,t care less if it was nintendo, sega,sony, microsoft.....
So what happened ? Why gamers behave like Sales executives.
Did SONY, MICROSOFT or NINTENDO made all of you share olders ?NO
I am 37, and for me being a gamer, it is still about the experience.
To sum it up:
What is worth my time?