The Trouble With the Never-Satisfied Gamer

Kotaku:Near the end of our interview earlier this month, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime jokingly asked me for harder questions. We'd mostly been talking about the ins and outs of the Wii U, but on this final day of the big E3 show, an event that included a big showing by Nintendo's new console, he wanted to joust.

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omarzy2187d ago

Very true, but is because i know what Nintendo is capable of. I gave up having expectations for the other companies.

PopRocks3592187d ago

When it boils down to it you need down-to-earth expectations for anything. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure.

miyamoto2183d ago (Edited 2183d ago )

With all due respect "Welcome to the real world of gaming, Reggie."

Gamers are really easy to understand...if you are a gamer.

I can play all sorts of 16 bit Streets of Rage fan made games and get satisfied in just a few minutes.

Reggie don't try to be a Hiroshi Yamauchi who pride's himself of not playing a single Nintendo video game in his entire life time!

That's why you will never understand unless you pick up that Wii U Gamepad and start gaming seriously instead of playing golf over the weekend.

Maybe the young Nintendo demographic has come of age. The casuals are chicken feed but if you are going for the "hardcore" gamers with the Wii U you know you have met your match.

Time to kick some ass, Regginator. Is your body ready?

Zha1tan2187d ago (Edited 2187d ago )

When their only core exclusive is zombie U what do they want us to think?

I can only go by what ive seen.

BrutallyBlunt2187d ago

It is this attitude that really isn't needed and one Reggie touches on. What exactly is a core title anyways? Pikmin 3 to me is a core title, so is Rayman. So how do you decipher what a core title is? Seems to me it's something many of you guys created on your own so you have somthing to whine about.

When did gaming turn into these little niche clicky groups of people? I don't recall gamers ever calling Tetris a non-core game, it was just a game. Seems to me you and many others who clog up the forums with this attitude forgot how to enjoy games.

Zha1tan2187d ago

Rayman is more of an arcade game to me in my eyes and well pikmin...wasnt really ever that good in my opinion.

What I was trying to say was they have nothing which appeals to me and a large number of people.

pikimin doesnt make me want to buy a Wii U basically and 3 exclusives so far then? thats still weak.

AWBrawler2186d ago

This whole core bull should die. Either you're a gamer, or not who cares if you game a lot a little, prefer COD, or Animal Crossing?

ShaunCameron2186d ago

<When did gaming turn into these little niche clicky groups of people? I don't recall gamers ever calling Tetris a non-core game, it was just a game. Seems to me you and many others who clog up the forums with this attitude forgot how to enjoy games.>

About midway through the 16-bit era when some people started acting snobbish and demanded a more "hardcore" experience on consoles to segregate themselves from the wider audience who made up the majority of the console market's customer base yet were too broke and lame for PC gaming. Consoles were always about the mass market.

BrutallyBlunt2186d ago (Edited 2186d ago )

Consoles were formed to create an easy environment for gamers to have access to afforable platforms and to make their gaming as seamless as possible (a plug-and-play experience that works off the shelf). You didn't have to go looking for firmware updates and drivers for example. Just because many have had mass market success doesn't mean those systems still can't serve the gaming needs of the more serious gamer. Consoles are becoming more and more like PC gaming any ways as they have many more functions now than just gaming. Plus with the online enabled environment consoles can and do get upgrades, patches and DLC. A service like Steam has also taken some of the frustration away that PC gaming can cause.

I still see no need in trying to categorize games into clicky little pockets so that we can feel special about ourselves. Am i the only one who can play Super Mario Bros. on the Wii, have fun with it and then the next day be absorbed in Civilization V? I don't think so. Those who choose to frown on others who do enjoy Kirby games on Nintendo platforms or even a game like Dance Central are just ignorant and simply can't see outside of their little box they created. They're the ones who are missing out because of their own insecurities, not me. Also to call someone lame for not wanting to get into PC gaming just shows you're own ignornace and lack of understanding.

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vortis2187d ago (Edited 2187d ago )

I was thoroughly satisfied with GTA IV and the two DLC expansion packs. I play them to this day. They exceeded my expectations.

I plan on getting Max Payne 3 for PC (currently waiting for some good mods).

I was thoroughly satisfied with the Assassin's Creed games (I honestly have no idea what I could suggest to make it better...they're very good games).

Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo both live up to my expectations (although Forza's recent DLC trend is growing tiresome).

The reality is that games that set to out be good and nothing but good games leave gamers with little unfilled expectations. Yeah, some people didn't like GTA IV because they had to remove some stuff to accommodate the Rage Engine but overall, it still holds its own in today's market. Can't say the same about a lot of other games.

Maybe for some companies they should stop lowering their quality levels and gamers will stop raising expectations.

vortis2187d ago

Also...I'd just like to say:

Reggie, WTF are you thinking that hardcore gamers would be excited about Wii Fit and games like Brain Age? Are you serious?

He's looking at the casual consumer numbers and thinking hardcore gamers care about shovelware crap.

BrutallyBlunt2187d ago (Edited 2187d ago )

What's wrong with Brain Age? I found it very interesting and different. Is it impossible to enjoy Call of Duty, Diablo III, Uncharted, Dark Souls, Grand Theft Auto and Brain Age? No it isn't, so stop acting like you're the authority figure on what games people care about.

Nobody really gives a **** what you so called harcore gamers like to classify games as and it's a term created by narrowminded gamers to make themselves feel special. So stop the elitism, it's growing tiresome.

PopRocks3592187d ago

Holy shit. Bubble up for being awesome.

vortis2186d ago

Look dude, Nintendo was the one who said they wanted to gain the core demographic. This means they want people who play those core niche titles because dun, dun, dun, hardcore gamers spend more money on games than casual gamers.

It's not about whether you enjoy a variety of games, it boils down to if Reggie wants people who buy more than just Pikmin, Mario and Pokemon and he wants those Dark Souls, Uncharted and Halo fanboys then they're going to need games that excite those fans.

It's cool if you're excited for the Wii U's line-up but for me the only two games that seem interesting are ZombiU and Lego City Undercover.

jayzablade2187d ago

Typical example of never satisfied gamers...after reading a lot of people bitchin and moaning about the lack of 2nd circle pad a majority of those saying Nintendo have failed, Nintendo fan boys will lap up anything they serve! Well guess what, i don't want or need a 2nd circle, i have 1, a d-pad, 6 buttons and a touch screen to use, why do i need another?!
It appears only Sony fanboys are the ones raging because it's not like Vita but if they did bring it out the forums would be crying out load with, they're copying Sony with the 2 thumb sticks like the Wii U Pro Controller copies the X-Box controller...Fail Nintendo, where has their originality gone that they now have to copy others.
I'm happy with my 3DS, i may possibly get a new XL in time but for now i don't see it as a necessity same as an additional circle/thumb

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