(Gaming) PCs are getting cheaper with better hardware and next-gen consoles are yet to be released for a high price of about $400, after this generation, will we see a dead end to console gaming altogether?
(Next-Gen, PC, PS3, Wii, Wii U, Xbox, Xbox 360)
I see console and handhelds becoming the same thing after the PS4 generation. I can see it being something you take on the go acting as a portable, yet you can hook it up to the TV and use controllers with when you want it to act as a console.
i agree Technology is getting not only better but smaller as well. We have seen the potential for a portable device to be hooked to a tv. It has been done with the original PSP but it was more realized with the GO. Primarily because of the GO ability to sync with a controller directly.
I will admit, I do play the GO connected to a TV. Albeit it is overkill seeing the output on a 47" lcd but the idea is solid. Sony obviously felt there wasnt a need to add that to the vita. Most likely because of the direct input of the touch screens but if they had to go back to the design table i can think of a few things they could change.
A vita with tv out and move support would be excelent to have. the camera built in acts like the ps eye and you could sync a ds3 or the move controller to it for specific games. Then when you want to be on the go you just take it with you.
We are seeing tablets and phones with tv out so the idea of a multipurpose device do the work of a console and portable isnt that far off.
Last consoles i remember were the PS2, Xbox 1 and Gamecube.
Oh wait you can include the Wii into that list.
Consoles have been dead for a longtime its just that people dont realise it.
PS3 and Xbox 360 are locked down low end PCs. The next iteration will be even more PC like(hardware wise, X86 CPU + AMD GPU). Except instead of being open platform they will be locked down and only run what the cheerleaders(Ms + Sony)(can call them middle men too) like it to run. Plus obviously there will be royalty on every game bought.
Now before people throw a trama on this topic. Look what what consoles have become, they share the same things console gamers froned upon for the PC last gen. Last gen console gamers would say:
Oh we dont game on PCs because they have game installs,
Oh we hate the Patches,
We hate the driver updates (its called firmware updates now, dashboard updates).
So yes folks consoles have been dead for a long time. Next gen will just be all about PCs or locked down PCs branded Playstation or Xbox.
@Decrypt Consoles are machine made with playing video games in mind as their main objective, they might resemble Pcs(Nothing wrong with that.) however that doesn't stop them from being Machines for video games.
consoles wont die, and only very recently has the upswing in PC gaming started.... remember a few years ago when people like steam were trying to save PC gaming. But it didn't die either. Consoles will be around for a long long time. BattleField 3 plays on the PS3 and 360, and it takes a pretty powerful PC to make that game look better than it does on those two consoles... $300 console pretty much the same as $1000 + pcs.
Perhaps not after this generation, but it's inevitable really. For the first time ever, we're seeing graphics on handhelds rival that of home consoles. In ten years time there's no reason to believe that the same couldn't be said of all but the very latest PCs.
All that needs to happen is for somebody to develop a handheld that can be used as a console (via HDMI) without any real graphical problems, with a controller and with some real support from third parties and dedicated consoles (or handhelds) are a thing of the past.
"For the first time ever, we're seeing graphics on handhelds rival that of home consoles."
a few weeks ago there was an article which said that handhelds will be able to compete with the 360 in 2013. the 360 came out in 2005. do you realize how far behind handhelds are from current pc tech? I don't really see handheld gaming taking over.
As I say, not next generation. That gives the handheld developers, whoever is working on that tech, well over 10 years to continue their work.
10 years ago we had the Gameboy Advance. Now we have the Vita. We can only presume a much bigger leap in the next 10 years. Saying that they're miles behind PC now is stating the obvious. Guessing what's coming in a decade is much, much harder.
As long as they make consoles, people will buy them. The hand held market does not temp the console gamer, neither doest the PC market. Just about everyone who owns a console, owns a PC and still decided to own a console. Hand-helds are relevant, but 90% of DS sales and games on Cellphones, go to kids and casuals.
PS. I don't know anyone who plays games because of graphics. Case in point: Crysys2 and The Wisher are considered the best games on 360 (Graphically speaking). Have a look at the sales numbers of each. I am not saying they are not just to great games that just did not do well on the system, my point is only that known they would look great did not compel many gamers to run out and pick them up. So even if the game were to look better on hand-helds, it does not imply that gamers will choose to play it over the console version.
But you're thinking of handheld vs console. Graphics are irrelevant, I just used it as an example of how quickly the handheld market is evolving. In 15 years time, even 10 years time, none of that is going to be an issue. If a handheld can do everything a console can, including plug into a TV, what's the point in having a dedicated console?
As an example: if the PlayStation Vita could play PS3 games and it could play via HDMI and with a Dualshock controller, PLUS games made for touch screen and portability, how many people would pick a PS3 over a Vita? How many people would trade in their console towards a handheld?
Go forward 10 years worth of development and that COULD be a very real situation.
That's the problem, though. The PSP is about the power of the PS2, it came out around the time the PS3 came out. Now we've got the Vita out, about the power of the PS3. But then we're going to have the PS4 in either 2013 or 2014, and that's going to be a jump that the Vita couldn't make if its life depended on it. Then the PSP 3 (or whatever) comes out in 2020, "Consoles are dying handhelds can do the same stuff" and then new consoles come out. It's a cycle.
Neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I love consoles, I will venture into PC gaming soon as the racing sims are better but I will always need my consoles for HUGE screen............COUCH gaming
You sound like a console gamer because your uninformed about gaming, pc has by far the most realistic racing sims iracing live for speed and gtr just to name 3 that blow away consoles best gran turismo5 and forza. play iracing for 3 months then see if you still think gt5 is a sim it has some sim features but arcadish ones also that can't turned off it's just built in the physics code the only reason to even play gt5 is there's allot of exotic cars, but you said sim so you should care more about tracks physics and actual racing not the crap racing experience gt5 gives you
I can see this. Not the death of consoles, but just the evolution of consoles. I think we'll see a future where our gaming machines are more like cable boxes, linking us up to gaming networks or channels that we subscribe to. Stream games in and you don't have to worry about piracy or costly hardware cycles. People say "Ermahgerd, we have to own our games," but we don't have to own our movies, our tv shows, etc. I really do think the industry will move in this direction, giving them more reliable and consistent streams of revenue from subscriptions. We'll already seeing Microsoft take a step in that direction with the $99 Xbox/Subscription bundle and it makes sense when you consider how they've come to rely on XBL subscriptions.
I think it's only a matter of time. The next hardware cycle could be the last traditional console cycle we see.
Will consoles die one day? Simple answer, no. PC will exceed graphics over the consoles but will remain its own platoform. IOS games will remain on it own platform, while making appearances on consoles. But a core game console won't die. As long as Innovation and and great concepts are around and (Most importantly) DEMANDED is still there, then, long live console gaming as far as I'm concern.
But a blend of the 2, the two that I mentioned above are very possible PC type of functionality/ merges, will most likely see Consoles and IOS will see a home on the consoles as well. But as it stands yes they will be around. Long Live Console Gaming.
Consoles will evolve. I would equate it to the relationship between desktops laptops tablets and smartphones.
I think they will be across between cable boxes computers gaming devices. You will never be able to edit movies and run photoshop on it but you will have access and manage your media files. I could even see consoles having upgrade blocks instead of releasing new consoles.
The death or survival of game consoles depends solely on ISP's.
Better internet connections = Increased likelihood of streaming services taking over.
Terrible internet connections = prolongs gamers' preference to physical media.
In the future houses will have a CPU's that will run everything from what your current PC does to the temp on your freezer. Graphene circuits will be built into the walls transferring info superfast to all parts of the home. The only peripheral we will have will be screens and controls for them.
Almost everything will one day die. I have seen the future and its bouncy and tastes like orange sherbet
no they will continue to go on, in some form, why people think it is dying is beyond me. video games are the largest form of entertainment and people by consoles by the millions each year.
I dont know for how many years we will still have consoles but imo the next generation will not be the last I am sure we will have at least 1 more generation.
I would like to see some kind of super-powered device we can take on the go for all our multimedia needs & games & when we r at home I would like to have the option to connect it on some HD TV Screen and play games there with a controller at the comfort of my bed/couch, that's how I imagine the future of gaming & not some crazy stuff with virtual reality etc.
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Technology is getting not only better but smaller as well. We have seen the potential for a portable device to be hooked to a tv. It has been done with the original PSP but it was more realized with the GO. Primarily because of the GO ability to sync with a controller directly.
I will admit, I do play the GO connected to a TV. Albeit it is overkill seeing the output on a 47" lcd but the idea is solid. Sony obviously felt there wasnt a need to add that to the vita. Most likely because of the direct input of the touch screens but if they had to go back to the design table i can think of a few things they could change.
A vita with tv out and move support would be excelent to have. the camera built in acts like the ps eye and you could sync a ds3 or the move controller to it for specific games. Then when you want to be on the go you just take it with you.
We are seeing tablets and phones with tv out so the idea of a multipurpose device do the work of a console and portable isnt that far off.
Last consoles i remember were the PS2, Xbox 1 and Gamecube.
Oh wait you can include the Wii into that list.
Consoles have been dead for a longtime its just that people dont realise it.
PS3 and Xbox 360 are locked down low end PCs. The next iteration will be even more PC like(hardware wise, X86 CPU + AMD GPU). Except instead of being open platform they will be locked down and only run what the cheerleaders(Ms + Sony)(can call them middle men too) like it to run. Plus obviously there will be royalty on every game bought.
Now before people throw a trama on this topic. Look what what consoles have become, they share the same things console gamers froned upon for the PC last gen. Last gen console gamers would say:
Oh we dont game on PCs because they have game installs,
Oh we hate the Patches,
We hate the driver updates (its called firmware updates now, dashboard updates).
So yes folks consoles have been dead for a long time. Next gen will just be all about PCs or locked down PCs branded Playstation or Xbox.
Great point
The next console will be very PC like. Its all going to come down to which AMD mobile GPU it has.
hand in hand
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Because if "One day" humans will become extinct, what does it imply about consoles?
Consoles will be around for a long long time.
BattleField 3 plays on the PS3 and 360, and it takes a pretty powerful PC to make that game look better than it does on those two consoles... $300 console pretty much the same as $1000 + pcs.
All that needs to happen is for somebody to develop a handheld that can be used as a console (via HDMI) without any real graphical problems, with a controller and with some real support from third parties and dedicated consoles (or handhelds) are a thing of the past.
a few weeks ago there was an article which said that handhelds will be able to compete with the 360 in 2013. the 360 came out in 2005.
do you realize how far behind handhelds are from current pc tech?
I don't really see handheld gaming taking over.
10 years ago we had the Gameboy Advance. Now we have the Vita. We can only presume a much bigger leap in the next 10 years. Saying that they're miles behind PC now is stating the obvious. Guessing what's coming in a decade is much, much harder.
I guess we can both agree on this :D
PS. I don't know anyone who plays games because of graphics. Case in point: Crysys2 and The Wisher are considered the best games on 360 (Graphically speaking). Have a look at the sales numbers of each. I am not saying they are not just to great games that just did not do well on the system, my point is only that known they would look great did not compel many gamers to run out and pick them up. So even if the game were to look better on hand-helds, it does not imply that gamers will choose to play it over the console version.
As an example: if the PlayStation Vita could play PS3 games and it could play via HDMI and with a Dualshock controller, PLUS games made for touch screen and portability, how many people would pick a PS3 over a Vita? How many people would trade in their console towards a handheld?
Go forward 10 years worth of development and that COULD be a very real situation.
That's the problem, though. The PSP is about the power of the PS2, it came out around the time the PS3 came out. Now we've got the Vita out, about the power of the PS3. But then we're going to have the PS4 in either 2013 or 2014, and that's going to be a jump that the Vita couldn't make if its life depended on it. Then the PSP 3 (or whatever) comes out in 2020, "Consoles are dying handhelds can do the same stuff" and then new consoles come out. It's a cycle.
I love consoles, I will venture into PC gaming soon as the racing sims are better but I will always need my consoles for HUGE screen............COUCH gaming
...wait, nope, too late. lol.
I think it's only a matter of time. The next hardware cycle could be the last traditional console cycle we see.
But a blend of the 2, the two that I mentioned above are very possible PC type of functionality/ merges, will most likely see Consoles and IOS will see a home on the consoles as well. But as it stands yes they will be around. Long Live Console Gaming.
I think they will be across between cable boxes computers gaming devices. You will never be able to edit movies and run photoshop on it but you will have access and manage your media files. I could even see consoles having upgrade blocks instead of releasing new consoles.
WTF ... I don't even =/
Better internet connections = Increased likelihood of streaming services taking over.
Terrible internet connections = prolongs gamers' preference to physical media.
Almost everything will one day die. I have seen the future and its bouncy and tastes like orange sherbet
I would like to see some kind of super-powered device we can take on the go for all our multimedia needs & games & when we r at home I would like to have the option to connect it on some HD TV Screen and play games there with a controller at the comfort of my bed/couch, that's how I imagine the future of gaming & not some crazy stuff with virtual reality etc.
YUP!!!!!!
I know guys on their 5th 360!