One thing Nathanial Rumphol-Janc consistently hear when people talk about the Wii U launch is that the lineup isn’t enough to make comsumers want to purchase the console. Nintendo isn’t doing enough entice sales from the consumers. It is indeed a very arduous task to convince people to buy a console when they don’t see value in the products available for it. However, is this really fair to the Wii U’s launch lineup?
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Pikmin, Smash Bros, Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron, Wave Race Blue storm, super monkey ball, Tony hawk 3.
But I guess that's what "arguably" means.
And why in hell would you subtract multiplatform games? He is talking about launch line up (overall) and not launch line up exclusive games. You guys are always trying to downplay the WiiU in some way, huh?
If you want to subtract Multiplatform, then you should remember the only decent PS3 game at launch was Resistance. WiiU has a better initial exclusive list:
-Pikmin 3
-New Super Mario Bros. U
-ZombiU
-Rayman Legends (it's still an exclusive title)
If you don't want to downplay the WiiU and you start talking about the full launch line up:
-Pikmin 3
-New Super Mario Bros. U
-ZombiU
-Darksiders 2
-Assassin's Creed 3
-Rayman Legends
-Trine 2
-Tekken Tag Tournament 2
-Batman Arkham City: Armored Edition (for people who never played the game or want a complete -edition)
-Mass Effect 3
-Ninja Gaiden 3 (improved version)
-Project P-100
-Fifa (already confirmed)
-Black Ops 2 (almost confirmed)
And again, PS3 only had Resistance in America (but now I am VERY happy with my PS3).
Because I don't buy a new console bases on multiplatform games that I've already played or will be playable on what I already have.
People just want to hate on the WiiU cause they can. The WiiU launch games list is damn good. Plus all the multiplayer (new release for all consoles) will be better on the Wii U. This will be both visually and gameplay mechanics.
Even if we subtract multiplatform games the WiiU has a much better launch line up than your console had, so why are you trying to downplay the WiiU. I gave you facts, don't act like an ignorant.
Damn, I hate this stupid console war, I wonder why those kids can't simply have fun with their games and stop trying to downplay the other consoles.
@Donman1 and legend911
Yeah I know, I don't understand why people need to attack the other consoles lol. They are always trying to downplay the WiiU so hard and there is no reason for it (we still need to wait for the launch lol). I wonder if Sony/Microsoft gives some money for fanboys.
Why would anyone buy a new console, for a game that is already available for their PS3 or Xbox 360? You might but 99% of people probably won't. I just don't get why Nintendo fanboys can't understand that simple concept?
So you're going to ignore what the guy said? I just don't get why x360/PS3 fanboys can't understand that simple post. He actually gave facts as he said.
"If you want to subtract Multiplatform, then you should remember the only decent PS3 game at launch was Resistance. WiiU has a better initial exclusive list:
-Pikmin 3
-New Super Mario Bros. U
-ZombiU
-Rayman Legends (it's still an exclusive title) "
You guys sure wants to hate this system.
a good system lineup is a laughable reason to justify the fact that the wiiU hasn't launched yet and is already outdated (borderline outdated) but completely outdated imo.
Almost any hardcore console gamer had a PS2, Gamecube, PC or xbox1, so why would they buy a PS3 just for Resistance if they could have all the other games on previous platforms? Also, you can't find Pikmin 3, New Super Mario Bros. U, ZombiU, Rayman Legends or P-100 on the other consoles, so it's like Hshiro said, it's a much better start than what the PS3 had.
You guys are trying so hard to downplay the WiiU but keep ignoring the fact the console is giving much more exclusive games at launch than the PS3, and will also deliver a good third party support (and not just ports, it will also include some new games like Assassin's Creed 3, Darksiders 2 etc).
Maybe you will complain because you will probably buy AC3 and Darksiders 2 for your current console, but x360/PS3 also launched with COD and some other third party games that we had on previous platforms (like PS2, xbox1, Gamecube and PC). So your complains makes no sense. Plus, third parties said they will reveal more launch games by the end of summer (Activision, EA etc). Probably at Gamescom. If the system is not out yet we can't really attack it.
@PoSTedUP
Outdated is your brain or your logic because you aren't even giving the system a chance. It's not even out yet and you are already saying bad things. Some third party already confirmed they have more news and launch games to announce at the end of summer. If it's not a good launch line up, then PS3 had an horrible line up (Again, youre ignoring what the guy said, only Resistance as a decent game), which makes for a better launch line up for the WiiU, so there is nothing for you guys to complain or hate, unless you also said bad things about the PS3 at launch.
If you say bad things about the WiiU because of the launch line up (which is still incomplete) youre also saying bad things about the PS3 because of the launch line up which was much worse.
im talking about the hardware being far behind in it's times. ninty had to make it up to me (obviously not Really personally, that would be silly) for this generations disgrace to the hardcore gamer, and by bringing out only THEIR slight advancement in technology, is not doing it for me for i already have gotten a good taste of this generation with the 360 and ps3. and i'm not going to be stuck in this generation when the PS4 and 720 comes out so buying a WiiU would be wasting my time and money. this is only my opinion.
Here:
"this is a good lineup for a system that should have launched 6 years ago."
Then the same thing can be applied to the PS3, because youre admiting it had an horrible launch line up. Resistance also looked like a piece of shi* and now the PS3 can produce games like Last of Us and Beyond. Nintendo showed 3 amazing tech demos last year. I know it's just tech demo, but unless you have an iside source you have NO CLUE about the system's power or PS4/x720's power, so we still don't know if there will be a huge leap (no matter what PR says). If the WiiU is powerful enough to be the PS2 of this generation, the less powerful (xbox1 is 3~4 times more powerful) but keep all the third party support then it will be perfectly fine, all it needs is support from both core consumers and third party.
We still need to see the sales for third party titles on this new system. We can't make hasty assumptions about third party sales, core consumers or final specs right now because we have no crystal ball/time machine/inside info.
Also, the launch games will never show what the console is really capable of, just look at the PS3, x360 launch line up.
You know what is having an outdated brain? Complain about somethin you don't even know. And I am sure you have no clue/document about the WiiU's hardware.
Resume for all of you: You guys have no reason to bitch and hate on the WiiU yet. unless you have inside info about the final specs/crystal ball/time machine. So far it has a better start than the PS3 with better exclusive games at launch and better third party games at launch (some of those games you can have on x360/PS3, but you could also have a lot of PS3/x360 launch games on xbox1, PC, GC and PS2, so multiplatforms like Mass Effect and Batman are no reason to hate the console, it's not the first time). Let's move on and stop this stupid console war because I love all my systems.
Good one man, PS3 and x360 also had TONS of PS2/xbox1/GC ports at launch and everyone is ignoring it. WiiU really has a good line up (I don't know if I will buy it yet) but I think you should give up. People hate the system because it's not their console of choice, unfortunately they will keep arguing even without any logic. There is no way you can stop the console war, that's how it works nowadays, which is sad. Seriously, give up.
No, it's not a multi game, don't make assumptions. To be fair with the WiiU guys, Ubisoft only said it COULD be multiplatform in the FUTURE, so it's still an exclusive game for them, there is no confirmation or announce for other platforms.
Seriously, everyone on the show floor was underwhelmed and weren't impressed for the "Next gen Nintendo Console more powerful than 360 and PS3". You could argue that Nintendo might have more games in its "Launch line up" (which at this point hasn't even been confirmed what the lauch line up is).
Look at it this way: Why would people buy a console that is exactly like the Wii and isnt as powerful as the PS3 or 360? The graphics on EVERY GAME for the Wii U looked better on the other HD consoles. What does that tell you? It's a stop-gap console. Nothing more, nothing less.
Edit: And before Nintendo fanboy's start disagreeing with me I have this to say: Have you played the games? Have you played with the system or touched the controler? No? So then why do you disagree and argue with someone who has?
Well, I could care less about Nintendo, I don't even enjoy their first party games (except Zelda), but I think I can answer you.
It's not very rational to say an unfinished game looks bad. Also, Assasin's Creed 3 on the WiiU looks better than the PS3 version (even with off-screen footage), it's clearly much more polished, but nothing like a huge leap:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Actually, I think it's even stupid from my/your part to make comparisons right now. WiiU is a new untapped console and AC3 is an unfinished product.
Also, it was confirmed both Batman and Assassin's Creed 3 (WiiU version) had some bugs and graphical problems at the show, which is natural when we keep in mind it's still a unfinished product and we can only make final judgement when it's finished.
There is also another funny part in your comment. Everyone (including reliable sources/sites) is saying the controller is extremely ccmfortable to hold and ZombiU and some other games had tons of people around to play, and you can clearly see it using youtube videos from E3.
There is yet another funny part in your comment which actually makes you look... ignorant (sorry to say that). Gearbox and some other reliable developers already confirmed the WiiU is more powerful than x360/PS3 and they also said Aliens will (graphically) look better on the WiiU, so why do you keep trying to say the WiiU looks just "on par" with the other systems?. And it's funny how youre using an early and unfinished launch games to say the WiiU is on par with the x360/PS3.
I know I love Sony, but you are so desperate lol.
@Hisiru
And you should calm down or you will have a heart attack.
@PoSTedUP
As Much as I don't like it, Carl has a point. If you don't have inside info, you don't know (for sure) any WiiU/PS4/x720 specs.
http://mynintendonews.com/2...
All of the games announced are in the so called "launch window" which is 3 to 4 months after the system launches.
God that was a great system, despite its many flaws.
The rest are new games, or games coming out practically at the same time as the other console/PC versions
It's just 2~3 games and we still need to see if they will include new things.
You guys are always complaining about the lack of third party support, now youre complaining about the support.
So, all those games everybody has played, I haven't.
ME3 and BM:AC.
So, most of that so-far 23 launch games, are ALL new games to me. And games I never would have been able to play before while waiting for Link and Samus.
Why not buy another console? Because they don't have any non-PC exclusives that I care about.
To me, IMO, there are only 2 reasons to care about a PS3 and that is Heavy Rain & Beyond. Quantic Dream (a Sony 2nd Party) is an Innovator (justlike my Nintendo).
Anyway I disagree with the fact that you said there are only TWO reasons to CARE about a PS3. So my question is; Do you even own a PS3?
Im very interested in the Wii U. It is different and Im finished with all the online shooters so Im looking for a different gameplay experience for next gen.
I dont care which console has "tha bestest graphix" Im more interested in new gameplay experiences and it looks like the Wii U will be the my choice for next gen gaming.
Nothing in the PS3's launch made me want a PS3 (it only had Resistance).
Hell, the only reason I wanted the Wii at launch was for Twilight Princess, but other than that, I could care less. I was focused on the Nintendo games down the line.
So let me get this straight, ports of games we've already played combined with rehashes, niche games and Nintendo's attempt at trying to capture the Wii Sports craze again with NintendoLand is arguably the best launch lineup ever? Is this a joke? If we are going by that logic, the Vita had the greatest launch lineup of all time! God, there's supporting your favorite company and just being naive and ignorant. Sadly, Zelda Informer greatly falls with the latter.
For me its like this 360- I play it for its FEW exclusives (HALo,GEars) and Multiplats(AC,BAtman,Red dead,COD, etc...)
PS3- I play it purely for its MANY exclusives (God of war,little bigplanet,uncharted,killzone).
unless they make a updated version of Mario 64 or the snes side scrolling Mario they will never beat there old titles full of delicious secrets...
Wii has slightly better specs than the XBox 1, the most powerful system of last generation. The Wii Upgrade would put it on par with the PS3, the 7th generation's most powerful console.
Good to see some upgraded HD versions of old Wii games coming out for the Wii U. Same game but with better graphics.
Nintendo are a generation behind when it comes to console power. The fad of the Wii has faded out in the last 3 years because both PS3 and X360 have added their own motion control nullifying the Wii's advantage.
A lot of that list is casual/kid stuff.
The only good one is Mario
Yeah great lineup......
The problem most people seems to have is that none of them highlights the Wii U's features. ZombiU seems like the best one to do that, but I remain cautiously optimistic about that one because although it looks good Ubisoft and launch titles are rarely a good match.
So while the Wii U may have the highest rated launch line-up ever a lot of people don't consider them system sellers, which is where the skepticism comes from.
From what I've seen I won't buy one at launch, but will definitely get some of the launch games when I decide to buy the console within a year of it's release.
The top games from the current launch line-up are (for me)
-ZombiU
-Lego City:Undercover
-Pikmin 3
-New Super Mario Bros. U
-Assassins Creed 3 (Unless I buy it for ps3)
When I was at E3 an Assassins Creed team member told me that PS3 was the lead console for development. Hence why every demo at E3 for Assassins Creed was shown off on PS3 (with the exception of the private meeting rooms where they showed off some of the Wii U version of the game).
And honestly it looked VASTLY better on PS3 than Wii U. While Wii U looked decent, the PS3 version of the game blew it out of the water.
BTW Multiplayer was awesome! People are in for a suprise when they show off more of the multiplayer. And I cannot wait for people to see Boston. It looks and plays fantastic. Playing it on the Wii U was gimmicy and distracting but on PS3 it played prefectly.
Again your choice but I just wanted to share with you my experiance with both versions.
Look at your insecurity. Look at it. LOL.
pikmin isnt exactly a killer app, and zombiu will probably be a letdown (being bogged down with its gimmicks). the "new super mario bros" franchise is really tired at this point and dominated by the superior LBP games.
so its not a launch lineup that is impressive enough for me to consider buying one, at this point.
I think Nintendo is trying to point out that they will support third parties more than before.
In such a small time frame it's hard for developers to port a game to a new system and pitch up everything to the consoles standard. Especially in the beginning.
I'm not expecting far better "ports" 6 months/1 year down the road.
"the "new super mario bros" franchise is really tired at this point and dominated by the superior LBP games.
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What? Mario still sold a lot more than LBP. I don't see how LBP is dominating?
And personally I don't think LBP is superior. I bought it at launch. Played it a few times and never touched it again. Not saying the production value is bad, I just don't think it was worth the 60 euros I've spend on it way back.
yes they are many games but they are all old experiences, that we already have,
nothing NEW exiting. even one game like Resistance in the PS3 launch was more exiting since it was a NEW nextgen experience.
This is only exiting for the few nintendo blind fanboys that only buy hat console and never there to touch a PS3. And good for them better late then never.