NGamer argues: More polygons don't equal better games
Yes it does. Greatly The more power the betta I know I will get this with the PS4 as it will become the most powerful next-gen system
Power means nothing if devs can't take full advantage of it. If all the next-gen has to offer is better visuals, then I'll stick with the current gen for another 5-6 years. I want longer games, more varied game mechanics, cross platform play for multiplatform online games etc.
1. your not sticking with last gen because all games will come next gen (unless ur 13 and u have no job) 2. lets stop with this graphics mean nothn crap if it was not for the power of ps2 GTA would never have been made and become a classic game ( see GTA1 and 2 and how they tried to do it but was not as good) 3. im sure you will miss out of halo 5, uncahrted 4, GOW 4, and every other games that will be for next gen only because of your silly "power means nothin" 4. devs are only working on next gen games so you will have none or very few games to play. (hope u like madden games cause ports of sports games is all you will have.) 5. grow up. each gen has brought something new and innovative to the table and the next gen will be no different.
I will buy a WiiU + PS4/x720. I don't care about this stupid console/graphics war. I will just enjoy my games and people is always trying to downplay the WiiU but it has a lot of potential and will probably give me some fun. Also, I believe there won't be a huge leap this time (and if you play some PC games you already know that). Some people is living a dream, really. They will be disappointed with the graphics or they will be disappointed with the price. I think this time we will see a differene like PS2 (Wii) and xbox1 (x720/PS4). For people who don't know, the original xbox is at least 4~5 times more powerful than PS2 and still, PS2 was a monster. There is a huge difference in graphics between Wii and x360, but it's not just because of the power. Wii lacked a lot of very important GPU/CPU features and that's why it couldn't handle some engines. Now the WiiU has all the features needed for next gen engines (heck, even the iphone has all the required GPU features for next gen engines). Maybe the WiiU is enough (graphically speaking) and won't look far superior as some fanboys think.
@LOGICWINS So, you'll miss new games because of the evolution in graphics next gen? nice, by that logic, why we don't go back to 8 bits? More powerful machines can do more than just fancy graphics O-T IF you're a Nintendo gamer who don't care about third party games, you'll be fine, now if you're a gamer that want to have as many third party games as exclusives possible, well, IT Really DOES MATTER Last year @ the Nintendo E3 conference, they promissed Third Party Support, this year, they only have Batman and Ubi which is killing on every system, they're even making a game for Vita whereas other Publishers (and even Sony) don't give a s#*t about it, so yeah, I'm not saying that it'll be like the wii with no real third party support again, but I was expecting More The good thing is that IF the wii-u sell s#*tloads like the wii, Publishers will not avoid the possibility of making money out of the console
***"So, you'll miss new games because of the evolution in graphics next gen? nice, by that logic, why we don't go back to 8 bits? More powerful machines can do more than just fancy graphics"*** Bingo... If graphics truly don't matter why not go back to 8 bits? Why don't people answer this question? Is it really that hard to admit that graphics do in fact have importance? Or this an issue of Ninetendo fans not wanting to admit that power does matter because the Wii U isn't exactly a huge leap? I also don't get why people think more power = only improvement in graphics...
@sikbeta What are you talking about, they only have Batman and Ubisoft? Yes, Ubisoft has a lot of games coming out for the system, but still, they're not the only dev making games for them. Darksiders 2. Trine 2. Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition. Ninja Gaiden 3 (the non-shitty version apparently). Aliens: Colonial Marines. Call of Duty: Black Ops 2. Injustice: Gods Among Us. Mass Effect 3. Project P-100. Mass Effect 3. Scribblenauts. So, from that list, there is... Gearbox, Rocksteady, Treyarch, Vigil Games, NetherRealm Studios, Bioware, Team Ninja, Frozenbyte, Platinum Games. And more, I just can't bring myself to essentially copy this Wikipedia article. And EA still has 2 unannounced games for the console.
I think that art style makes a game better than graphics I mean look at borderlands it's a small game with a LOT of content with comic book like graphics to add charm to the whole experience. A game can look AMAZING when developers actually become creative and create a world with "unique" graphics. There were a couple wii games I loved its art style for though I forgot the names. Next gen will be different, if they hath To "downgrade" a game to add to wii-u I guarantee you the difference wont be like GameCube> xbox
if u own a high end pc you will know what kind of leap is going to happen with consoles, and it isent what fanboys dream about. its better framerarte more draw distance and other small graphical changes that more ram will bring and better gpu
No, best consoles at launch >>>>>> pc because games for pc are made also for "low end pc", so until you can see a game on par with best consoles games, you have to wait 4,5 years after console's launch.... by the way, only fanboyz without best hardware are lying to themself with "graphics means nothing", like others said, if graphics are not importantx, everybody should buy an old pc and a ps2, it's enough to play thousand of great games...(but not the best ones ! :))
I'd say no , the one thing I've learnt this gen is that good graphics only go so far. There have been plenty of games that 'look' great , but ultimately feel shallow, boring + repetitive in the gameplay department. So yes, having good hardware + tech is important, but actually doing something fun and interesting with that tech is more so , to me at least. As for the Wii U , so long as it has good games that are worth playing I'd be happy to buy one.
Actually for wii u, it does not matter. Nintendo cater for their own and always have. But Wii u, will not sell like the wii. Not in a million years. older people won't want it. Just like if brain training was not on ds. It would lose 30mill sales.
It doesn't need to sell the same numbers as the Wii to be successful. If you disagree, just look at its competition.
@chukamachine I want your crystal ball or your time machine! Now!
No, I care about the games. Sorry Nintendo I don't like your games.
Nope, just like Nintendo didn't need a console to match the PS3/Xbox 360. They still had the most successful generation and the other console makers even resorted to copying a lot of what has made Nintendo so popular.
Choose a multiplattform game, lets say COD Play it on mid settings Now, play it with everything max. Same game, more things flying on the screen.
while graphics dont make the games much better and its all about gameplay this isnt the same arguement, you have 2 newer systems coming with greater tech which leaves the wiiu with lesser tech graphics wise and while wii proved your point, it might have not died out so fast if it had better tech. while i want a wiiu and many others do as well, im not all to happy knowing its just as powerful as what i have now, im already bored with what we have now and want next gen. Im hoping the wiiu can do more then what ps3 and 360 can do and that will be better over all . and while people can argue that the pc is way more advanced then the 360 and ps3 for years, that is all fine and dandy but the the difference isnt as much as the night and day difference ps3 and 360 games look in comparison to most wii games
You seriously need to play Skyward Sword.
It sure does. Not so much for Nintendo as developers but without the power of the PS4 and Xbox 720, 3rd party devs will drop port support for WiiU, just like they did with the Wii.
If it was more powerful then the PS4 and Xbox 720 people would not be saying that if it really matters.People would be writing a million articles on how the Wii U surpasses them and how Sony and Microsoft are losing their edge to let Nintendo out match them in hardware. But now that we find out that it is barely even more powerful then the 360 or PS3 the excuses begin again. I can just hear 'It looks good for a Wii U game' already.
All i care is that Wii U makes Wii games look a lot better on HD TVs.
I think nintendo said it won't upconvert wii games, it might look a bit better through hdmi, but i doubt it will be a huge difference.
That's very disappointing, one of the reasons I didn't get a Wii is that the games looked extremely jaggy on my 50inch HD, they looked even worse than on a SD TV.
I think as long the Wii u is capable of running UE4 the Wii u should be fine graphics wise is obvious the next Xbox & the Ps4 will be more powerful but I think if the wii u can run UE4 it will get more 3rd party support
The reason it matters for Wii U to be powerful is really simple. If the Wii U is not going to be comparable to the next gen of systems coming out, no one will want to port there games to Wii U and dumb them down to do so. Just like Wii they could completely lose 3rd party support. Oh and smashcrashbash I agree. "I can just hear 'It looks good for a Wii U game' already" LOL you are correct!
Xbox 1 is at least 4~5 times more powerful than PS2, but PS2 received much more support. If WiiU can have a good core fanbase this time, it doesn't matter if the graphics are bad or not, people will make games for it.
you might have a point but Wii still failed on 3rd party support and it was a top selling console so my point stands. Also Sony was established, Xbox was new so ya of course PS2 had much more support Xbox was an unknown at the time and had no established fan base. Nintendo has a hugh fan base and 3rd party didnt support the Wii. Now why is that??? I wonder???
I think it kinda does at this point, especially if they want third party support, but i do think the wii u will be powerful enough to atleast be considered the ps2 of it's generation (Not the strongest console, but it is comparable)
Unfortunately it's more like a Dreamcast :/ (which got released few years prior to the other consoles of its own gen) But at least the Wii U offers a unique experience aside its graphical lacking. Some Wii games managed to impress me graphically (Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3) and i think the Wii U will be able to do that as well in the coming generation of gaming :)
More polygons don't mean much. What can truly evolve gameplay further when you have more power is physics, and the amount of objects that can appear on the screen at once. I recently played Metroid Prime on the Gamecube, and i realised that the only things that made it worse than most modern games, was the resolution and limited physics. I think we will definitely see new possibilities along with better graphics again, like we did in this gen.
All those stupid articles pretend that every game developer in the future will go to great lengths to create a version that will run on the presumably less powerfull Wii U. If the PS4 and 720 will really be, let's say, 5 times as powerfull as the Wii U the devs will have a really hard time to get the games out onto the Wii U, which means that either the PS4 and 720 Versions will be dramatically dumbed down, which I can't see because I believe that the combined user base will be larger than Nintendo, or that the devs will reduce or even drop support for their top games on the weak hardware. So it really isn't about the graphics or innovation or if some super deep thinking guy is above graphics at all (exclusives excluded) but about compatibility. There is a reason the Wii never got the great multiplatform-games and it was not certainly not the lack of user base or even customer desire. So when the real next generation hits in 2013 and will indeed be so much more powerful than the Wii, I give the multi platform games about 2 to 3 years until they phase out Wii support... not completely, mind you, they will always have their dance and waggle games and probably a couple of great new titles for the tablet, but I can't see the Assassin's Creeds, Call of Dutys and Need for Speeds, and whatever large franchise you might like, make large compromises and dev costs to support two different 'generations' of hardware. Never happened before, did it?
Does it matter? Not at all. If the game sucks, then graphics are not going to make it better. If the games are good, then i'm in, i do not care what system it is on. Same reason why the ps2 is better than the ps3, and the SNES is better than almost everything.
Every game next gen has to be open world. 2 gig of RAM means no excuses
A good game is a good game no matter what system it is on. But when the specs are out for all systems I better not see any comparison articles on this site since they don't matter. Just sayin...Oh and also no comparing multiplat games either...I'm out
The only mind blowing thing next gen has to offer graphic wise is cinematic cut scenes.
Look, I think a lot of people have this impression that Wii didn't get the 3rd party support because there was a misconception that 3rd party games didn't sell well. That was a cop out for the real fact of the matter. As stated before, and regurgitated again, the Wii lacked specific GPU features present in current gen engines. Meaning..? Those current gen games didn't get ported because developers didn't have the production budget for 2 games. Most of the multi-platform games for PS3 are ports of 360 games because the 360 is easier and faster to develop for. It's common sense. The reason the Wii didn't have 3rd party support is Nintendo's fault. As long as the Wii U supports newer tech (which it has demonstrated) and supports newer engines like Crytek and Unreal, it will be fine. It will get the multi-platform games; because the system supports it and the engines are scaleable. I own almost every system you could want. At the end of the day, the system with the GOOD games gets played. Period.
Not as much as this gen becuase all will hd and 1080 (720 for most wii games im guessing). Thats close. It wont be like sd vs hd. The main differece i see is ps4/xbox will (most likely) have a bit better graphics, better ai, biger world, more enemies on screen and all the little things which make games better. So it does matter but not as much now. We will see it more later in the life cycle though. Honestly im happy with a bit better than current gen (happy with current consoles at the moment i doubt i would buy new consoles till the price falls). Im more interested in good games and unique art then graphics (as long as its HD). Nintendo will have some great games which is most important. Wii rocked but the sd graphics were a big stumbling block to overcome.
If we are making this argument purely on how a game looks, then no it does not matter. However, extra power means far more than prettier graphics and framerate. Anyone posting here knows or should know that there are many, many more things going on under the hood than displaying a picture.
No. Because I'm a Nintendo fanboy and must accept whatever plate of mediocrity is put in front of me. Itadakimasu.
Yes! All I care about is Graphics and CPU clock speeds! That's why I only play Zelda and Metroid on High End PC's! (that wwas Sarcasm) Translation: In other words, If all I cared about is Graphics and CPU, then I would only play on High End PC's cause Even the Next Gen is going to be weaker than a contemporary Top-of-the-Line PC. ^That there be Truth.
This articles keep on popping here & there trying to defend the hardware limitation of Wii U at any means, ok let's say that u dont need a powerhouse like PS4 will definitely be for devs to make quality games, but from the other hand Ninti want to have multi-platforms support from 3rd party studios, so which is it? if Ninti want to get all the new dazzling games we r going to get in the future then they need a machine able to run them, do u really thing that a console with 6 year old hardware will be able to run those games created with the new super-engines created especially for "real" next-generation consoles? We all know that in 3 years from now Nintendo will be in the exact same spot with Wii U as the Wii now is compare to PS3/xbox but Ninti fans doesn't need MP gamers they r happy as long they have Mario & Zelda right?
Im very interested in the Wii U. It is different and Im finished with all the online shooters so Im looking for a different gameplay experience for next gen. I dont care which console has "tha bestest graphix" Im more interested in new gameplay experiences and it looks like the Wii U will be the my choice for next gen gaming.
No. It didn't matter when I bought the Wii before either HD console and it certainly isn't gonna matter should I buy the WiiU and ignore Sony's and Microsoft's next consoles since I suspect that neither are gonna offer what their current consoles already offered besides better graphics.
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