Are Achievements more Addictive then Trophies?

Players have learned to grow accustomed to their favored console whether it be the Wii, Xbox 360 or PS3. Both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 have a way to get players addicted to their consoles and that is in the form of Xbox 360’s achievement system and PlayStations 3’s Trophy system. When comparing the two which do players like better despite their console of choice? Do players tend to be more addicted to trophies percentage or building a larger Gamerscore?

[Snookies12]

I just like trophies because they have different levels. Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum. Just being able to see that you've gotten a platinum trophy is a great feeling.

Second place for me would be Xbox Achievements, and third place would be Steam's. For some reason, despite really loving Steam. I barely care about achievements on there. :\

[THESHAUNZY]

I guess it is more or less a preference thing ^^

[Snookies12]

For sure, everyone is going to have their own preference. Same goes for console of choice, game of choice, etc. Oh, and one thing I left out, I love the trophy sound, it makes me happy... lol

[-Mika-]

no he right. Trophies are better. Just like snookies said. The whole bronze,silver,gold thing is more cooler. Plus wihen you get a certain amount of trophies. you level up. Right now im level 16. If i get a few more trophies. i Will reach level 17.

So overall with trophies. You get a better feeling of progression instead of just looking at a number. That just what make trophies better

[Hisiru]

I prefer trophies not just because of different levels (and types of trophies like gold, platinum etc) but it's also because achievements are just numbers for me, which is meaningless, but I can't say it's bad, it's just a matter of taste/opinion. I know some people who prefer the achievement system.

[darthv72]

i equate them to be the same. Just little acknowledgments of things you have done in the game.

Both are addicting especially when you have reached the half way mark in getting all of them in a game.

To look at the trophy/achievement list and see you are a few away from a perfect game makes you want to go the distance to get them.

[da_2pacalypse]

I was skeptical of the trophy system when it was first introduced. But now I can say that it's probably a better system than than the GS system (and I'm a 360 player). You can get the original 1000 out of a game, but as soon as DLC is released your completion goes to waste (and you're almost forced to buy the DLC). A platinum is always a platinum though.

[Disccordia]

Man this is so lame. Ps3 fanboys will say trophies and 360 will say achievements. They are both the same.

Pointless article!

[Kurt Russell]

My preference is on the xbox, I'm around 59k score on that. However I think this is only due to the fact I started on it before I did my PS3 trophies. Both work really well, I like having accumulative scores.

As for steam, I only play TF2 so don't have any for that really :(

[nukeitall]

I *prefer* achievements, because it's a simple system. I wish there was a specific identifier for doing 100% achievement completion like on Trophies.

However, I can't stand Trophies. Mostly because it is overly complicated with a level that doesn't linearly scale and never make me feel like I get any progress. Then they break up the trophies into 3-4 tiers. Like really?

There are good parts to both, so I would like a system where it is somewhere in between. I want to see progress (achievements), and I want recognition (trophies).

In the end, I care most about that I completed it, has a record of it and it's easily accessible and comparable with others. Xbox Live does that well, with very fast response. On PSN you have to wait for the long sync.

[Chuk5]

I like the level system of trophies, but not so much the trophies part. I love the sheer number count of achievements, but there isn't really a sense of progression. Ultimately I like achievements more, but if the two systems could combine a general achievement system, that would be rad.

[BlackTar187]

how do you not like the trophy part? Trophies are what we all grew up with in regards to measuring the level of difficulty.

I like them both but seeing a number like 60k is worthless. You have no idea how many games they completed in full. Now a platinum trophy will tell you they beat x amount of games all the way thru.

I respect your opinion but it is hard foe me to really understand what your saying honestly. Could just be a dumb moment im having but rather weird way to break down likes and dislikes since you kinda said you like one but you also don't like the one.

Is confused

[Persistantthug]

It's kinda RPG'ish.

I'm level 10 btw. :)

[FlareDReborn]

Ok watch This.

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Then Watch This.

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Nuff said.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

Trophies got the sound of accomplishment.
Achievements got the sound of pop ups.

It would be nice to edit the sound of them.

[WetN00dle69]

Achievement sound for me!!!
Nuff said.

[WeskerChildReborned]

Platinums give you a feeling of accomplishing something even though it's a game.

[Kran]

But then... so do achievements.

5G
10G
15G
20G
25G
30G
35G
50G
100G
150G

Those are the average uses for points.

Honestly, cant say which I like better. I like achievements but theres something about trophies ;P But I will take a platinum trophy over a 100% icon on my 360 ANYDAY.

[Snookies12]

Yeah, they do have point values, but once you get them and see your overall score, it doesn't hold any value other than the total number you have. That's my main issue with it. My friends with 360's tell me, "I have 24,000 gamerscore." I scratch my head as to just how many achievements or how many of them matter that they actually have. With the PS3 people, you say you have 15 Platinums and a total of 2000+ trophies, it really gives you a better visualization.

[_Aarix_]

If you say one is better than another than you're an idiot. They do EXACTLY the same thing.

It's bronze, silver, gold, platinum
5g 10g 25g 50g
(any number really ending in 5 or 0)

You can say you prefer something but ignorance is claiming one is better

Mika is an example

[TekoIie]

Didn't valve do a 1g or 4g achievement lol?

I just want to remind everyone of that netflix article.... Are we seriously being this dumb by comparing achievements and Trophies? -_-

gold, silver and bronze or 5-50g (usually) points values. Take your pick but if you want to make a competition about it then WOW... Just wow.....

[Hicken]

So you get 50g for doing EVERYTHING there is to do in a game?

Because that's what a Platinum trophy is: you owned the game, finding every secret, mastering every boss.

You can have a ridiculously high gamer score without having thoroughly wrecked shop in ANY game. But you don't get a Platinum trophy for nothing. Hell, I have friends who have more than twice as many Bronze trophies as I have period(910), and 20+ Platinums. They rocked the socks off at LEAST 20 games, cuz not all of them have Platinums.

[wsoutlaw87]

they are exactly the same except ms just adds them as points but sony has them as levels and percentages to the next level. I think the levels add a bit more of an addictive aspect if you are trying to reach the next level, but there's no real difference. The platinum trophy is the main difference and is probably the most addictive trophy. The fact that there is no reward on xbox for getting all the trophies in a game is kind of disappointing.

[Oh_Yeah]

theyre the same to me, i like sony's not because of the actual trophies but because you level up, makes me feel like playing an rpg of some sort lol. i like ms achievements because they remind me of playing in an arcade...gotta get that highscore son!!

[joab777]

For me, the platinum trophy is the most addictive award in gaming. On Xbox I do not feel the pressure to get every achievement, more so simply to add to my gamerscore. On ps3, though, it's all about platinum. I have gone to some crazy lengths to get it. That being said, this year changed everything. I just cannot keep up. Rohan r my choice and it's either play as many great games as possible or spend countless hours chasing platinum trophies. Yeah, I like to get 1000 but it can b done artificially with dlc.

[ALLWRONG]

Trophies are just a last minute clone. Achievements are the real innovation here.

[phantomexe]

I enjoy them both but tropies are alittle better because the break them down better IMO. Still enjoy them both

[NastyLeftHook0]

Its a preference, I prefer trophies though.

[THESHAUNZY]

Just FYI Achievement points are going to be used to unlock things Microsoft hasn't disclosed any more info...

[cemelc]

Just like trophies eventually so your point is?

[Kran]

Other than inFamous 2 where trophies carried over unlocked some small ingame stuff, where did Sony even say they'd be giving away free stuff like avatar awards, PSN credit, free PS Plus etc based on trophy support? Where have they even hinted at this (if not confirmed)

I'm just making a point here.

[cemelc]

Actually they where talking about home stuff, rewards for thropies and content, havent heard from in awhile.

But if thats the case i havent heard from MS either in awhile so...

[wsoutlaw87]

ya sony had that rewards thing that they havent really talked about it in a while

[LiamIRL82]

None, they're both pointless and have had a hand in taking the fun out of gaming, and upping the amount of people with ADD

[Lucretia]

yup exactly.

its more of that holding your hand thing thats going on with gamers today.

the completion of a game or enemy should give you reward enough. but no, people want their candy and wanna know how much of a good boy they are.

Oh look, i pressed start, sweet trophy.

who gives a flying balls, doesnt make the person any better or worse. I know i freakin beat the game, why am i getting reminded?

[Blastoise]

What are you talking about? Its nice to be rewarded for completing a game. Its not about being a better person or anything. I like trophies, I would never buy a game just because it had them but all I know is when I completed Dark souls and that gold trophy popped up it made the ending that tiny bit sweeter.

[mewhy32]

Well I favor achievements over trophies. Just my personal preference.

[Canas2010]

@mewhy32, you mind if I ask you what makes them better for you?

[wsoutlaw87]

its like an extra in game challenge. There not all for just beating a game, they have tons for things you wouldn't normally do. Plus its fun to compete with friends over them

[mewhy32]

@Canas2010
Well,unfortunately,multi-cons ole release games for the most part, look and perform better on the 360 and the vast majority of games on the market are multi-console console release. Therefore, my ps3 is relegated to "exclusives", photo storage,occassional netflix streaming, and blu ray movies. All that results in more achievements for me as compared to trophies.

[Moby-Royale]

I don't understand. How has having the option to earn trophies taken* the fun out of anything?

Also, how does that up the amount of people with attention deficit? If anything it takes more effort(?) to go back after you've beaten a game and achieve specific requirements needed to obtain the trophy.

That just doesn't make a lick of sense.

You don't like it, fine. But don't insinuate that people who DO like it are taking anything away from gaming as a whole.

I didn't "disagree" with you, as I'd rather hear what you have to say....

[Lucretia]

its an insane concept really.....

but i've known people and have friends who would not even touch their ps3 because it wouldnt add to their gamer score......

my friends would pass around freakin avatar and Barbie for easy achievements but skip infamous and uncharted 2.

thats how it ruins things.

ofcourse its not everyone, but its alot of people. its totally stupid but sadly true

[wsoutlaw87]

but if there having fun playing barbie to get trophies then whats the difference

[LiamIRL82]

Loving the disagrees, just to reiterate, I HATE TROPHIES & ACHIEVEMENTS!!

[a_squirrel]

I never actually liked trophies or achievements. Every once in a while it would be something funny.

But, that doesn't mean they haven't grown on me. The achievements thing was cool at first, but the bright flashing light at the bottom kind of got to me. The trophy system is more passive, and uses visuals to tell you how big it was.

I guess the most I've gotten out of either is knowing when I found a Easter Egg.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Not really I beat the Sly collection and now going back and almost finished with the last platinum for Sly 3. I enjoyed the game even when trophies appeared it really didn't take any enjoyment from the actual game it just made the game better after you beat it encouraging replay value

[Kran]

Ever heard of turning them off if they probably bother you when gaming?

[a_squirrel]

Actually, I forgot there was an option too... Oops.

[Moncole]

They are both the same. You unlock them by completing certain tasks.

[MasterA]

I like PSN's FB integration. A trophy seems to have more weight to them. Achievement points can get lost.

[Yodagamer]

I don't mind either of them tbh, but they do add some value for people who want to get everything in the game.

[frozengame]

*Than

[greenpowerz]

Visa more fun to buy a candy bar with than Mastercard?

[Bladesfist]

only debit visas

[Fishy Fingers]

Old school highscores over either for me.

[Chuk5]

That's part of the reason why i like achievements more.

[greenpowerz]

Double post

[greenpowerz]

Achievements are so popular because they're a simple and direct evolution of the mall arcade. This is why xbox fans favor certain types of games on xbox. Core gamer culture was born in mall arcades. This is why scores, competition and certain game genres dominate on xbox because these type of games are descendants of what was in Arcades. People can't figure out how MS and XBL are so successful, the reason is MS essentially turned the local mall arcade into a global one but in your home. The social score and reward system we enjoy today on current gen consoles is all thanks to Mall Arcade Ancestors.

[a_squirrel]

Why the heck would people disagree with the double post?! *beats head against a wall* How is it not a double post?!!

Ahem. He's right. When Live came out, there was something called Arcade Live. Microsoft was aiming for a live arcade experience.

Oh, and lastly, usually there is a leaderboard, which is essentially a huge highscore or high-skill level board. I think I can also compare my trophies and achievements with friends.

[ChunkyLover53]

I definitely prefer Achievements. I love the fact that Microsoft though very far ahead in advance and made every game made for the Xbox 360 use the Achievement system.

I am still surprised to this day when I go into a used game store and try to get a used PS3 game to boost my Trophies, how often the games I want don't even support them. Sony didn't make them mandatory until 2009, where as Microsoft has had them mandatory since 2005. So its always easier for me to go Achievement hunting than Trophy hunting.

Just love the setup of Achievements more too I guess, that sound really gets me excited, sometimes I'll be playing through a game and hear that pop and I think I just unlocked something, only for it to be a friend getting online or something. Plus Avatar Awards are often included in games now that unlock when you get a certain one, and now that they allow 400 Gamerscore points per Xbox Live Arcade game, its win/win.

One last thing I dislike about Sony's Trophy system aside from a ton of games not supporting them, is the sync system for the Trophies, it seems like it takes forever to compare your Trophies to friends, I like how on XBL you can compare your Achievements with anyone's, and it loads right away.

Guess it all comes down to preference, but I've been Achievement hunting since 2005.

[mayberry]

I have both boxes, and my "platinum" trophies are very rewarding to achieve! If I got a platinum for wipeout hd for instance, my god, that would be an accomplishment to remember, (for me anyway), my Killzone 3 platinum is cool to have too! But even though I also try to get my "achievement" score high, that's just it, its just a "number". but cool too. Bottom line is, I like
Trophies" better.

[Tyre]

Why do writers always use the word addictive? It has become a fashion. Why not say they are more fun instead.

[GraveLord]

Same thing.
They're both pointless time-wasters for people with no life.(even less of a life than me)

[Tyre]

And u are God then? U determine what is life?

[GarandShooter]

Some folks say that very thing about gaming in general.

[hardcorehippiez]

didnt really care for trophies tbh. i suppose it adds a extra incentive to play the game more but im the type of gamer that likes to keep fairly up to date on releases and game online a fair bit so i dont spend much time trophy hunting . level 16 with no platinums as yet.

[Vortex3D]

On achievement, it has Gamerscore. To some gamers, they like to show off with huge Gamerscore number like 30,000 Gamerscore.

On trophies, it is not one big number to show off. Either the PS3 gamer can say, Level 15 trophies, 30 Platinum trophies, etc but there's just no one "total" number to show off.

In reality both achievements and trophies are only good for boasting and show off. So what you have 30,000 Gamerscore or Level 15 trophies. Some games have easier achievement or trophies. So, if the gamer plays a lot of those easy achievement or trophies games, that doesn't mean anything.

I think the reason why many gamers love achievements or trophies. It's like a little "doggy snack" everytime we reached a goal. No "doggy snack" and many of us have less interest to reach the goal. Easy way to prove it. Each account only gets one achievement or trophy for reaching certain goal in one game. Once you got the achievement or trophy for the goal, do you replay the game to reach the same goal again and again? You don't get another achievement or trophy for reaching the same goal again.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

It works and it has been working. How do you think COD became so famous.

And it's how you take it. I play a game on normal to beat it with some challenge and enjoy the story. Then I try for trophies just to get the most out of the game. If anything trophies and achievements help you get more for your $60.

It's also a bonus if it's a franchise you cherish, it adds more value to it.

[thebudgetgamer]

I'd say trophie over achievements due to the fact that you can buy a hundred games and get a hundred points on each one and have a good score. With trophies it really shows how skilled you are because you can have a lot of bronze trophies but if you only have a few silver and gold trophies you're not as good as the people with thirteen platinums.

[IronFrogMan]

So someone couldn't just go out and buy 20 movie games with easy platinums?

[thebudgetgamer]

No, platinum trophies are not easy to get.

[EmperorDalek]

Some of them are... Sly 1, Trine 2 (you don't even have to beat the game!) and movie games like Up, or Terminator: Salvation for example.

And some of them are difficult, like Dark Souls or RDR.

[TheGamingArt]

Trophies hands down. I completely ignore achievements. No sense in accomplishments with achievements.

[CaptainPunch]

*facepalm*

[TheGamingArt]

LOL, someone got that ^. I actually do like trophies more though. The level, the status... it's just more...... well it seems to provide a better bragging way.

[DivineAssault]

Hell no.. Achievements are stupid points.. Trophies rank whats dime a dozen & what takes dedication

[Roper316]

They are the same damn thing as far as I a concerned, the only difference is MS will probably start charging extra for them.

[Biozerker]

I say they're both bad, the whole concept is terrible. You shouldn't need a trophy to tell you that you killed/completed something, the satisfaction of doing it should be enough.

[Canas2010]

Most people would be satisfied with that. It's their retard friends who won't believe them and our society today is all about proof. If you can't show me first hand that you accomplished something or you have nothing that says you have accomplished something, then you have accomplished nothing. That is how the mind of an adolescent work. I personally know tons of grown adult "adolescents".

[TitanUp]

haven't had a console in a while.when i had both 360 and ps3 i always found it more satisfying getting a trophy even though i never really did care for trophies or achievements.

one company i have gripes with over achievements is steampowered.com i love steam use it all the time.achievement system on that site is just awful.

IMO

[PSN_StEaLtHy85]

NO

[Urbz7870]

I own both consoles and my 10 platinum trophy feel better then my gamerscore but i give props to the ppl that prefer achievements over trophies every one has there own tastes.

[IronFrogMan]

Breaking 100k gamerscore was a better feeling than breaking say, level 20 trophy score. But that's just me.

[Canas2010]

You are absolutely right. however, I strongly believe one can get that same feeling with trophies. So to me I prefer..........Trophies! But, both are equally rewarding to different people.

[blackbirdi]

i have both system i don't really care about achivements like i do for trophys

[ShaunCameron]

Damn right they are. One of my favorite moments was unlocking 39 Achievements in just one playthrough of Shadows Of The Damned.

[BLAKHOODe]

I like both. I like how Sony uses the bronze, silver, gold and platinum "levels", as I feel that system makes more sense than giving each achievement a number value, BUT at the sametime, I like to see that number, too.. as I type, I'm only 200 achievement points away from 100K and, no lie, I'm thrilled by that. I also like that my achievements automatically upload, as oppose to you having to manual upload trophies. It's a preference thing, for sure, but Xbox nailed it. I hope Sony learned and makes trophies upload automatically and stay real time on the next Playstation.

[HacSawJimThugin]

Achievements gave birth to trophies...back when I actually owned a PS3 I could careless for trophies. I thought (still do ) that the were a cheap imitation of achievements so I never bothered chasing them.

[WetN00dle69]

Exactly!

[JKelloggs]

I prefer Trophies because of the leveling, and the Platinum trophy, rewarding you for getting all the other trophies on a game. That makes it more addictive for me, trying to get all the others and then being rewarded for it

[Donnywho]

Shiny colors beat numbers every day of the week.

[Omnislash]

It depends what console you like to play the most, for me its the PS3. I love platinums, I love seeing them.. Xbox players look at your score but not your perfect scores (which are basically your platinums) the trophy breakdown determines what kind of gamer you are, and Im always showing off my platinums. (I have 14 of them ^^)

[TheLyonKing]

I do athletics and trophies are more recognisable to me and seeing a platinum is a great feeling. Though i am level 15 - don't laugh :(

[Roccetarius]

If i was playing on a PS3, i would have 74 Platinums. I prefer Xbox though, not because of gamerscore, but the achievements themselves.

[Prototype]

Slow news day to have articles like this?

[ShAkKa]

"then"? Really?

[Slapshot82]

No.

[SpinalRemains138]

Personally I never undertstood the point of trophies.

"Get 50 kills with "x" weapon."\

Screw you. I will use whatever weapon I want. Trophies are fascist. It's not like they're rewarding you for something great. 90% of them are for silly things which the developr wants you to do for some reason. I find them pointless and controlling.

I will progress through the game without any references or advice on what to use. Me wants gamey freedom

[NoobJobz]

Is one more addictive than the other? Eh. Not really. When you think about it, it's the exact same thing. Do something within the game and something unlocks. Not seeing how one would be better than the other.

[cstyle]

Achievements for the win. Trophies are a little boring to me.

[omarzy]

This stuff is considered addicting?

[RGB]

We can look at this logically; teams/individuals in sports receive points during games/championships. Examples being;

Tennis players need 6 (points) winning games to win a set.

Football teams get 3 points for a victory and accumulate a total number of points.

Formula 1 drivers win up to 25 points per race and accumulate 100s over a season.

These points are statistics and nothing more. What do they win through these achievements? The answer is simply...

TROPHIES.

Points add up to trophies. You don't win trophies in sport until you have the points. The trophy is the end goal and is the sense of achievement. Champions receive trophies and this is why Trophies will always be better than (achievement) points. :D

[PersonMan]

Never cared about Achievements and Trophies. It's a VIDEO GAME! I don't feel a sense of pride or accomplishment when I do something in a game because it's not real.

If I play a game and finish it... I say "Wow, that was a really fun game" (because those are the only types of games I actually finish. I don't feel like I Achieved something or that I need a trophy and I also don't feel the need to do everything in a game.

[TheOrion]

I do have a little preference of trophies over achievements. But to be honest I got a little too focused on them rather than the game.

Going back to games before these systems of essentially proof of bragging rights came along allowed me to better appreciate and play the game whichever way I chose.

I did get a little addicted but broke from the cycle, it won't stop me from trying something different regardless if its an easy plat/achievement or not though.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

I personally like the sound of when I get an achivement and how it appears on the lower part of the screen. where as PS3 it appears in the upper corner.

[NoobJobz]

My achievements unlock on the top of the screen.

[mochachino]

I much prefer trophies because the graded scale as opposed to meaningless points; however, I still get more games for my 360 simply due to the fact that to see an achievement/trophy on 360 only involves one button press (and one to get back), whereas on PS3 is takes a 4 plus there is loading....and then another bunch of button presses to get back to the game. It just takes too long on PS3, like messages and game invites.

[Tzuno]

yes they are but i like the trophies too.

[ZeroWil]

Besides the minor differences between the two (bronze/silver/gold/plat, 'leveling' up, etc.), they're both the same, but great. In fact, they probably extended the playtime of many games for me.

[Double_O_Revan]

Achievements equate to a total gamer score. You always want a bigger number. But trophies are just collected. I prefer my ps3, but my ocd was higher when I played my xbox. It's much easier for me to bypass trophies and not care. I always found myself trying to reach the 1000pt mark for each game

[TGM]

At the cutting edge of video games journalism.

[Unversed87]

I got 50k achievements I got bored. I got level 10 trophies still interested. Xbox = Call of Duty noobs get no achievements. Ps3= Play games for higher levels.

[iamlegend9999]

I believe so. Even one the PS3 fanboys said they would prefer getting achievements that give you multiple points instead of just one point and stuff.

[THESHAUNZY]

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[IQUITN4G]

Pointless article considering most of each side is only ever going champion their system. A good point however is people GENERALLY seem to better understand the points system on 360. It doesn't mean it's better say or that the PS3 system doesn't work or appeal to those that like it, but 360 Achievements seem to make more logical sense to those not in the know about scores etc. Many of those i've talked to about this that own both machines mention the 360 as at least making sense to them- meaning the PS3 does likely alienate the larger and more casual and crowd
It misses the point saying how much better the PS3 at this stuff when it's more often not fully grasped by users outside of the hardcore

[stage88]

Trophies all the way

[DialgaMarine]

For me, personally, the Platinum trophy has always kindof been the deal breaker for me. It's just awesome for friends to look at one another's profile to compare how many bronze, silver, gold, and platinum trophies they have to see who is the more dedicated gamer. Achievements come off as a number, and really feel like nothing more. Granted, it's all just little meaningless pictures in the end, but they really add alot to the fun of online gaming.

[jerethdagryphon]

my problem with avivmnets/gamer score is meaning

having 50000 gamerscore sounds good but when none of those fames ahave been completed its cheapens it

having 50 platiniums on the otherhand means 50 games 100%ed excluding dlc

[FunkMacNasty]

Tbh, neither really excites me. I don't care about my Platinum Trophies or my Gamerscore - I play games for the story, the action, and where applicable the online multiplayer or co-op. When i replay games, i do it because i enjoyed the game on my first run through and just want to experience the gameplay again. But i never do additional playthroughs just for achievments or trophies, as some of my friends do.

[ufo8mycat]

Trophies definitely.

An XBL Gamerscore doesn't mean much. If someone has a score of 44,560, it doesn't mean they have 'fully achieved' around 40 games, it could only be 2 and they have just played lots of games and not gotten all the achievements.

Trophies on the other hand you can easily tell by simply how many platinum trophies they have.

Also personally, seeing platinum trophies is more rewarding then seeing 1000G/1000G for example.

[Tornadobounce]

It's all about the picture for me. If a game has crappy looking pics for the trophies/achievements then f##k em.

[IHateYouFanboys]

"The Xbox 360 does not calculate an actual percentage for the player which makes it easy to get just a few points on a game and put that game down with no guilt attached."

How can someone write an article about achievements while showing that they obviously haven't even spent much time with an Xbox 360? On the 360 if you go into your achievements on the dashboard it lists every game, along with what percentage of the achievements you have for each game. Its right there for you to see, it's not hidden or anything.

Also I see the Sony faithful going on about platinums and how you can see which games you have completed and how you cant on the 360.....well you can actually. Again, in your achievement list on the dashboard, it has a tab called "completed games" where it has a total number for all "platinumed" games along with the logo of each game you have got all the achievements for. You then can go into this tab and see the individual achievements for those games. Again, this isn't hidden or anything - right there in front of you for all to see.

Example: http://360voice.gamerdna.co...

Of course I don't expect most of you to know this, as it requires you to actually own a 360.

Achievements win for me purely for 2 reasons.

1. Every 360 game in existence has them, has from day 1.
2. A single number is easier to compare than levels. 30000gs will always be bigger than 20000gs. With trophies, they could have you with 10000 trophies being on the same level as someone with 6000 trophies. easier to compare achievements.