Is it just us asking this question, why do people really care about the Wii U's horsepower, or more specifically its graphical output? should we not care more about the games coming to the Wii U?
Well, look at it this way. This is nintendo's next system, and so far I am put off by the controller, and that's the system's selling point. Okay, if I'm not interested in that, let me check out the way it looks. Not totally blowing me away, but I will get better looking. The problem, the wiiu will get better looking in comparison to the 360 and PS3, what does that mean for their evolutions? Third party support seems utterly lacking and Nintendo has admitted they won't be able to catch sony and ms with online capability. It's not 2004 anymore, online is a massive key to the success of the 360 and ps3. And finally more powerful systems can handle more complex game systems. Bigger, denser worlds, more intricate AI, etc. And then there's the wiiu asking price, which remains a mystery and most likely won't be cheap. That is why I am off-put by the WiiU.
Allow me to argue a couple of things. 1. The controller is a regular controller with a screen in the middle. If you're off-put by the way it looks then that's fine, but I'd suggest giving it a swing before dismissing it altogether. 2. They showed an entire montage of third party games at E3. Yes, most of them are older titles, but a few of them, like Aliens and Assassin's Creed, are new. The Ninja Gaiden game also seems to be looking much better from its previous iteration according to various previews I read. There's also ZombiU and P-100, both of which are exclusives. 3. We don't know the final specs of the Wii U just yet nor do we know much of anything about the online infrastructure outside of Miiverse. I've played online games on the 3DS before and they all actually work quite well. I'm hard-pressed to believe that that would not translate to Wii U eventually, if not at launch. I can understand the skepticism surrounding the console, but it should be noted that there's also a great deal of potential. Sadly there are two many question marks as of right now. Even after E3, the bulk of it is still speculation. Shame, really.
Just about to reply with some of the things you have just said poprocks. Thanks :)
I remember seeing a comparison between Wii U and PS3 showing AC3 and Wii U looked better even though it was off screen footage.
although i do jump back from time to time, it'll be like playing the ps2 throughout this whole generation of ps3/360 Next gen with the WiiU and PS4/720, not happening... nintendo are behind in the times, they Did dominate this generation, but i'm somehow smelling it was a bad move for the future of their company if they don't have another catchy gimmick.. hope i'm wrong. ever since i was little i always cared about the graphics "the sega looks so cool" "oh wow the gamegear is hand held and it looks the same!" n64/ ps1 and so on and so forth.
My issue with the controller is how big and heavy it is rather than how other looks, I'd guess its the same for this bloke.
Umm srry to say this but it wont be able to play next gen 3rd party titles like the new star wars game or Watch dogs.....but the controller,they have a alternative guys,it looks like a 360 controller and acully looks good for fps and other games.So the controller is fine,im surprised you did not mention that Poprock sense you tend to be in favor of this console.In my eyes its okay but im not buying it.
People care about the Wii U's power because they're looking for a reason to upgrade from their PS3s and 360s. We're looking for something that captures our imagination. So far we've seen a gamepad with a screen that has been used for inventory, sniping, mini games and a few other gimmicky additions. I'm sure Nintendo have something cool up their sleeves but WE haven't seen it yet. Naturally the next thing we turn to is power. And because a few of us got burned by the Wii this gen... (Gimmicky controller, marginally more powerful than the gen before.) ...we want to know if this is the Wii all over again or a worthy Next Gen console. Time will tell.
I know power wont make gameplay better, but more power = better grahpic, more stuff, bigger game. When you got like Wii, you cant make GTA 4 on Wii beucase Wii is weak. So you need power to make GTA 4 on Wii. So, thats why people care about Wii U power
"I know power wont make gameplay better, but more power = better grahpic, more stuff, bigger game. " More costs, more risks. Just because there is more power to work with, doesn't automatically mean that games will be bigger.
The thing is... PS3 and Xbox 360 has pushed to limits and PS4 and Xbox720 will have big grahpic leap. Thing worrys me that when they make games like GTA 6, or some big new games, then they make it on Xbox720 and PS4 which has alot power, and Wii U is too weak to run this game. So it will be Wii over again. To I remember seeing a comparison between Wii U and PS3 showing AC3 and Wii U looked better even though it was off screen footage. AC3 may looks a little bit better on Wii U, but when AC4 comes to PS4 and X720, then Wii U is too weak to run it. So does it help? It has only 7 month grahpic leap, then Wii U is outdated.
If you play PC games with high settings then you should know we won't have a huge leap in the next gen. Also, Wii lacked a lot of VERY important GPU features and it also lacked HD visuals, that's why the Wii looks so terrible when compared to the x360/PS3, and that's why it couldn't handle some engines, it's not just about power, it's more about GPU features. Now the WiiU has all the features to run any next gen engine and it probably won't look that bad when compared to the x720/PS4 games. I believe the WiiU x x720/PS4 will be like PS2 x xbox1. PS2 was inferior but it had much better support and games. Maybe the same thing will happen with the WiiU? I doubt, but the PS2 is proof that we can't downplay the WiiU before it is released.
You can disagree as much you want, i dont care. Fact is, when PS4 and X720 has lot power, then Wii U will be same as PS3 and Xbox 360 against Wii. Which means no new Call of Duty, GTA, Assassisn Creed or other big titles on Wii U because its too weak to run it. Wii U may get old multiplatform games what are already on PS3 or Xbox 360, but it wont get games what coming on PS4 and Xbox720.
Er... you don't have a spec sheet on any of those consoles, do you? Because I'd sure as hell love to see them.
@-Superman- It's sad to see people misinformed like you making stupid comments like this one. And you wonder why people give you disagrees. Wii doesn't even have programable shadders and this is one of the reasons it can't run some engines, has nothing to do with power, it's more about GPU features. WiiU will have all the features for next gen engines (even the Iphone will have Unreal Engine 4 support because it already has all the required features for the UE4). That's why the WiiU will be able to handle every engine and every next generation game (but of course, it won't have the same quality). All the GPU and CPU features are there. This time, developers will be able to make WiiU versions of any game. Also, the Wii always had Call of Duty titles (even the new games like Modern Warfare 3), you are very misinformed. Do you know why Wii has all the COD titles (even if it's just an inferior version)? Because the Wii has all the features to run the COD engine, just like the WiiU has all the features to run Unreal Engine 4 and the next generation engines. Now I think you should learn more about development before you spread more wrong infos.
'Which means no new Call of Duty' Right... Since CoD has been pushing the graphics envelope... Oh wait, no, they've been shamelessly and unapologetically putting out the same 'Just enough detail, just enough resolution' graphics since 2007.
if you're put off by the controller, check out the wii-u pro controller
I think the reason most gamers are irritated is because we actually WANT Nintendo to release another amazing system, they're just constantly disappointing. Most of us grew up with SNES/N64 and have amazing memories with them, but it's irritating that Nintendo opts to release inferior hardware instead of being cutting edge as they were in the past. It'd be incredible to have all the classic Nintendo franchises as current titles that competed with Uncharted graphically. I mean seriously imagine that? Especially with as cartoony as their games are they'd look mindblowing. It's just frustrating that they decided to betray their hardcore fans to expand gaming to soccer moms, and instead of fixing it by making a serious leap with the Wii U, it seems they're apologizing by giving gamers what they should have 6 years ago... Too little too late imo
While most gamers have no problem playing games that may not have the best graphics because they are fun or the art direction dictates the less than stellar graphics. HOWEVER- games that strive for realism such as CoD or RPGs with high end graphics should look as good as possible. And why would I choose to buy a game for the WiiU that looks more realistic on another console? Graphics are not everything. I agree. But if you are going to buy a game for a system wouldn't you buy the one that looks the best. (assuming they play the same across all platforms)
Because Ghz = Fun. Unless you mention PCs. Then that doesnt count.
because it's next gen...thats why
because here in america we like to measure our d!ck sizes and compare them to others we think bigger is better
More power means better AI, physics, particles, draw distance, level design etc That's why we care. Graphics aren't te reason for power.
It was ok until draw distance. Best level design is a work for the designer of the game. And nintendo is one of the best doing it. In an underpowered Wii, you know.
Please h311rais3r, consider these things. Do you really think that 99% of developers are going to use the extra power of a 'PS4' and 'Xbox720' for those things and inflate already overly expensive development costs? Do you really think that Sony and MS are going to release new consoles that are heads and tails more powerful than the Wii U even though their current systems tax developers when it comes to cost and difficulty to program for? No. Like you see on a lot of PC games, more power means less work for optimization. Meaning developers can cut corners, be sloppy and still get decent results rather than pushing the console to get everything they can out of it. Graphics will not make a significant leap on consoles over the next few years. A few developers will push the physics/particles/etc envelope, but not many of them, because they know that most gamers can't and won't recognize the difference to an extent that makes it worthwhile. 100,000 elitist GHZ whores don't make a big enough difference in sales to make such development costs affordable. Seeing as the Wii U is to some undisclosed extent more capable than current gen consoles, it will most likely have the same games, with very comparable look and feel to the others.
Because as of now the "people" complaining have nothing else to complain about. When the PS3 and 360 fist dropped the games for it didn't even show it's true power. Even at the end of each consoles life cycle we are still reading or hearing devs say that they are pushing the consoles to the max and turning out gorgeous games.
PIKMIN LOOKS KIDDY. /s There I threw in a classic for ya.
The console is going to be powerful enough to run everything the current gen can throw at it in addition to some next gen games built from the ground up on the console. I keep rehashing this in other threads.. people are worried because the dont want another Wii a system that sits there after the initial gimmick wears off and turns out to be a waste of money.. The reason Wii U will be different is obviously the tablet in addition to a handful of social features, modern tech, and first party HD titles. People need to calm down until we actually know what the specs are.. I am just as worried as everyone else because I want Nintendo to be successful and come out with some NEW ideas that I havent seen already... I own a PC and all 3 systems and honestly I feel like PS3 and XBOX release the same old colorless 3rd person games with a different story line... The Wii altho the graphics sucked for the most part had a lot of unique stuff that I hadnt already seen on the other consoles or even PC .. Nintendo does what they say they are going to do .. bring a unique experience.. only this time with HD graphics and the possibility of 3rd party developers who have no excuse now to talk about "it isnt powerful enough we cant make games for it"... PS4 and 360 are assumed that they will be this beastly machine, but we dont even know what the heck they will have in them.. As far as we know the Wii U could be a huge success without having state of the art tech and Sony and MSFT could follow suit with a slight bump in specs... "Fact is, when PS4 and X720 has lot power, then Wii U will be same as PS3 and Xbox 360 against Wii. " - not sure what facts you have, but everything about the PS4 and 720 is a huge RUMOR.. you work for Sony or Msft?
Some graphics whore haters need to realize that graphics are important in a game. They are not unlike controls, sound, story, replay value, and every other ingredient. Graphics are one part of the whole, and this fun little 'gameplay over grqphics' debate has gotten very dry, partly because it never made sense to begin with. Too many people act as if the two cannot work together at the same time, as if there aren't games out there RIGHT NOW that handle both very well. The thing is, as with all technology, when something new releases, it's stat quo to outdo currently available tech. Its the nature of the game, and as such, consumers expect something more for their money. You can say we're spoiled if you want, but if technology stood still or released tomorrow, yet only competed with what released last year, what would be the point? How 'powerful' a console is, is about more than the graphics. Its an umbrella term, a hierarchy. With more power, you have more bandwidth for AI, textures, HD sound, light sourcing, and yes, graphics. I think the fact that so many are concerned, confused, or just curious about the capabilities of the Wii U is a good thing. It means they are interested and hungry for satisfaction. My concern is whatever amount of time it has to itself on the market won't be enough when the undoubtedly very powerful competitors step up. Its up to Nintendo to follow through, if they truly wish to court the "hardcore" market.
Oh for Christ sakes.....do you need a fact for fact reason why WiiU is garbage? Ok here ya go! -2.5hr to charge pad for 3.5hr play time. -friend codes (modified) still used... -trophy/cheevos system is a mess, you only can see them on games that have them (yes, their f&@king optional)...miiverse huddlers around a game can see cheevos of they also own the game. -if game is above 30fps - using 2 pads halfs this on said pads. Tv may or may not be affected....still an unknown. -3rd part support IS atrocious. Ubisoft & Warner don't account for the majority. Many devs and journalists and gamers who were actually at E3 were not impressed. You might be, nothing wrong with that. -Iwata has been quoted : (I'll shorten it...google it if you don't believe me. And I wouldn't if I was you...because this stuff is the stuff of PR nightmares!) ---- won't compete with Sony or MS due to their head start on online infrastructure. Lol who' fault is that? ---- won't moneyhat devs (court 3rd party support) because they don't believe in that. Ok, cool...let's look at Wii, hmmm.. ---- 30 min wait for post in miiverse...everything not directed at friends directly is moderated. Lol There's more but I think it's obvious. Ninny don't get 2012 let alone 2013+.
lol you are a total hater.. -They said 3.5 to 5.0 hours depending on brightness of the pad... -Modified Friend Codes could mean screen names or unique code per system he wasnt clear on what modified codes mean... This is no different than what ps3 or xbox does anyways... whats the difference between an account name or a code as long as its easy to put in and track it should be one and done... the only reason wii had crappy friend code system is because you had a different code per game and you had a code for the system... as long as its it is simplified like he said it should be no different than other systems.. -We dont know the full extent of how achievements are going to work , they demonstrated how they would work with mario and the miiverse.. They said they arent going to force people to develop around it but its optional... in all honesty no one is going to not buy the Wii U because you cant get trophies lol .. and the people that do will be in a very small majority.. -What will 2 pads add to the exp anyways? The only games I can see benefiting from this are sports games like Madden so you can hide your plays... and even so the technology is so new the 30 fps is a case by case basis.. If you are playing BF3 with 2 tablets ya it might suffer in frame quality .. it is no different than HALO or COD reducing graphics quality when playing split screen or online.. -3rd party support for any system at the start of its life cycle is going to be low because they want to see if they can build a base of hardware sales... Lets not start with the Vita lol .. It has everything everyone has ever wanted in a handheld or a system yet it still doesnt sell compared to even the PSP or DS/3DS.. And for the most part the 3rd parties ANNOUNCED have a decent lineup coming out... AC3, Mass Effect, Darksiders, Alien Marines, Batman Arkam... Crytek has a game brewing and RETRO is making a game... Plat Games making p100 ... -Nintendo didnt need to compete last cycle and they dont need to compete this cycle.. he is simply stating their online base is MASSIVE .. it isnt like they can just release an online network and magically be more popular and more useful than PSN or LIVE... I mean.. PSN and Live have the luxury of having a base of 65million units sold lol ... All people want to do is play games, watch movies, and download content over a network.. As far as we know it is going to do that.. they confirmed that titles will be released for digital down and Netflix / Amazon / Hulu will be available .. and thats just at the start of the console life cycle... -He said some third parties jumped on immediately and other will need to be convinced with how well the system is selling... Again you dont see any news breaking articles about 3rd parties going crazy on the VITA.. right now its support is lacking because it isnt selling well.. Every system is like that , otherwise youd see a billion games when the console is released.. Studios cant financially back something they dont know will be a success. -Also he said it was a multi layer system that could take up to 30 minutes and they had to see what was acceptable to the community overtime.. He also said that if it passed the automated filters like swear filters and what not it would be posted right away .. if it didnt then it would go to the next layer of review which could take longer.. Why is that a negative thing? I dont want 13yr old kids I always hear on Live writing spoilers or cuss words and drawing stupid things... Nintendo did MORE with a lot LESS with the Wii and people still doubt them... It always sounds dumb and ridiculousness before you actually use it. -
1. controller has a charger. Unless you plan on going jogging with the controller for more than 5 hours, then having a charger right next to you that works while you play is fine. 2. trophy system. how do you know more about the trophy system then what Nintendo has announced 3. 30fps with 2 gamepads. 60 with 1 gamepad. 3 screens with 30 fps is fine. 4.3rd party. actually alot of devs have stated that they like the Wii u. 3 devs not liking it does not account for the majority. 5. it was not won't compete. iwata said that miiverse will not be as supported as online infrastructure from 7 ears ago. All that really says is that it will not be as supported/known at first, which most people would already know. 6. Not paying other people to make your games is hardly an insult. Pretty much says that xbox/sony would probably flop 1 year after launch without it. Nintendo can support themselves with 1st party, and the bigger reason was that Nintendo cannot compete financially with microsoft, and sony. I want you to go to an auction house with a friend, and bid on the same thing, but you have far less money than your friend. How do you win the auction? 7. 30 mins messaging in miiverse has been taken away, as of weeks ago. "Nintendo does not get 2012, yet alone 2013+" The word economy comes to mind along with another word that describes what state the economy is in, what was that word.....oh ya, FAILING! If Sony, and Microsoft release consoles that people cannot afford, then they are the ones who don't get it. The company that designs an affordable console in this day, and age, gets it completely.
Why do people care for Surround sound... It all sounds just fine in mono. Lol see what I did there? With power comes evolution. without one gen bringin on more power than the previous it have led to changes. Compare current gen games to PS1 and Ps2 games... they are very different yes? That is why people care. Power means change, means effort and quality. Its why Pong, pacman and Asteroids aint that hot in gaming circuits anymore. CHANGES, POWER, INNOVATION. Try find me games that feels and plays like say BF: Bad company, Motorstorm, Killzone 2 or Vanquish on previous hardware... Ill believe that is downright impossibru!!! More power, is more power to the player, richer and more immersive games, more cinematic and more believable. there is always going to be good and bad games but Power is interesting because it make things look better and stuff changes. Weighty and rich feel and ai in KZ2 is not possible with previous systems and that were things that made Kz2 immedieatly stand out in my eyes awesome lighting and physics were in place too.
Why Do People Care About Wii U's Power? Well if its not more powerful or even on par with 360 and PS3 then whats the point in buying it in the first place? Whats the point in paying more? Im not gonna buy a WiiU for its tablet controller Im going to buy it if its more powerful than the current then and if not then to hell with it. And besides the next gen consoles will be out in a year or two how can the WiiU survive the console war if it is not better than PS3 and 360
People that complain about power fail to realize that when Wii-U drops, it will be the most powerful console out. Even if its just slightly more powerful than current gen (PS3/360) it still will be able to outperform them. Games that are being ported already show this when compared (Batman/Assassins Creed) and even though it may not be by much, its still doing it. And these are ports on new hardware. Wait until developers actually build games from the ground up and actually learn how to use the tech inside that box. Now when "PS4" & "720" release, yes they will most likely be more powerful than the U, but will developers be able to take advantage of that right away? Not likely, just like they are not taking advantage of the U right now. Nintendo has even said developers havent touched about 50% of what the console is capable of. That means their is half a system worth pushing to the max yet. Plus most games on consoles are third party games that hardly ever take advantage of one systems hardware over the others. Do PS3 games blow away 360 because its more powerful,no, they look the same. Third parties will not make different engines, for different systems, to take advantage of everything for a game. They port it across the board and tweak it to be optimized for each system. The U will be able to get current gen and next gen games and is actually in a really good spot. The can have the best looking current gen games and when the time comes, will get either equal looking or downgraded ports of next gen games. And do you not think in 2 to 3 years when the other systems are released that Nintendo wont be preparing their next gen console.Nintendo works on 5-6 year cycles. Not the 10 year plan others follow.
"... when Wii-U drops, it will be the most powerful console out." doubtful. from what we've seen (specifically with arkham city/AC3), it barely equals what the PS3 and X360 already do. "... Nintendo has even said developers havent touched about 50% of what the console is capable of..." it took 4 years after its release for 1st party developers to reach 50% of what the PS3 could accomplish - which we saw with god of war III. if the system hasn't even been released yet and the devs are already close to using 50% of the systems power, that's not a good sign in my opinion. "... Nintendo works on 5-6 year cycles. Not the 10 year plan others follow." the PS3 came out about half way through the PS2's 10-year development cycle, so... just because they say the system wil have a 10 year cycle doesn't mean that they're going to wait 10 years before releasing the next system. if, say, the next playstation comes out in 2014, that's 8 years, not 10. i'm pretty sure the reason why it's a lot longer between generations this time is because they've been able to squeeze a lot more power/use out of the systems.
Its not doubtful that it will be more powerful than 6-7 year old hardware. I am not saying its going to be light years ahead, but if you honestly believe that they aren't using a better graphics card, and more ram and other newer pieces of tech, then you are just in denial. And do you realize that your saying that games like Batman and Assassins which are taking full advantage of current gen systems to their max, are just the starting point for Wii-U ?? That doesn't help your argument at all. Please tell me where you got the info that it took 4 years to get 50% out of PS3? And even if that was true, which I doubt, thats not good that the hardware was that complicated that they couldn't use half of it for 4 years. Again that doesn't help your argument at all. It just goes to show that system was not pushed anywhere nears its potential until its 6th year. And what does it matter, if by your comments your refering to PS4, comes out in 2014. If that does happen, Nintendo will be halfway done with their R&D on their next console. The U drops in 2012, and if they stick to 5 years, the next Nintendo would drop 2017. Which would then make Nintendo again be starting the next gen first. Nintendo is forcing the others to play by their timeline, not the other way around.
because it says its a true next gen console and its just a current gen console that is late. and even though its slightly stronger than the ps3,360, since it came out so late (6 years, i mean really) in a year or 2 when the ps4 and 720 launch and run games with the new final fantasy engine, Unreal 4 engine and other next gen engines the wii-u will fall drastically short
I honestly who are you? You speak like you work for Nintendo, Epic and Square Enix.... Do you have WiiU specs? Unreal 4 can run on an iPhone do you really thin WiiU can't handle it? Do we web know what luminous runs on?
i think u work for nintendo the way your defending them lol. you can buy the wii u, its fine, you can brainwash yourself and think that its powerful yet shows nothing yet. enjoy sir
Love the way people bash the controller without even using it yet. I have all 3 systems and have had every handheld to date, and the only thing I could compare the Wii U to, is the N3DS. Having a second screen is great for me, as I hate having to pause to see a map, manage inventory, and have a HUD take up the entire field of view, a second screen eliminates that. Once it comes out and people see what I see, then maybe they won't criticize the second screen so much and appreciate the evolution of gaming. As of now I'm not too excited with their launch/launch-window games, but that could easily change with the announcement of some key first, second, and third-party games. Graphics are important but to be honest with you, the Wii U will have a resolution or 720/1080p, which is perfectly fine for today's standard, compared to the Wii's atrocious 480p! Even if Sony pushes 4k resolution, it will be a very long time before 4k resolution becomes affordable, and the new standard.
I don't really care, just about the games which at E3 alone seemed great enough for me to consider buying one. Next Issue I have now is the price of the system at launch, I have a price in mind and a second price that I can be slightly comfortable with anything higher is a deal breaker
I care about the power because if it's too weak(or the gpu is just insufficient) it won't get proper 3rd party support, and, as a result, I'll be forced to buy two consoles to play all of my favorite franchises. It needs to be future proof.
"and even though its slightly stronger than the ps3,360, since it came out so late (6 years, i mean really) in a year or 2 when the ps4 and 720 launch and run games with the new final fantasy engine, Unreal 4 engine and other next gen engines the wii-u will fall drastically short" - Lucretia ROFL , you do realize that the Unreal 4 engine ran on a Geforce 680 video card (the card is longer and larger than the 360 and or ps3 form factor) and most likely a current gen cpu like the Intel i7/i5 quadcore (heatsink on these chips are taller than what can fit in the form factor of current gen console)? The video card alone on Newegg is 550$ and that CPU is roughly between 179.99-279.99... The Final Fantasy engine tech demo was running on a HIGH-END PC gaming rig which most likely had MULTIPLE video cards.. Most likely 2 to 4 cards similar to the Geforce 680 or AMD 7970.. Those graphics are only possible on a Ultra high end PC right now and unless you want to spend 500$ per video card on top of a 250$ CPU you wont see that kinda tech in the new XBOX or PS4 ROFL... I dont understand why people think that the PS4 and 720 will be close to what those engines can run when the original UNREAL 3 engine had to be modified to be put on the PS3 and XBOX 360 to begin with... people get real... My gaming rig right now doesn't produce those kinda visuals in any game I currently own lol and I have a pretty good gaming rig that would cost more than what people would pay for a gaming console. The PS3 was like 600bux when it came out and Sony is only now breaking even ... Xbox was like 500.. they wont make that mistake again especially in this economy... They cant even sell Vitas or 3Ds for 250.... People also need to understand new consoles mean studios have to spend more to make games... all these new features and technologies are going to cost them tons of cash cause they will need new developers... That is most likely why the Wii U is going to use a similar build out to an XBOX 360 in terms of architecture... CELL was notoriously hard to program on which is why first party studios owned by Sony make all the amazing games ... Wii U is taking that into consideration for 3rd parties which is the reason why most will jump on board.. it wont cost them much in overhead to develop for..
It's the natural "pecking order" of gaming this gen. It's almost like your typical sibling rivalries at the household: 1. PC gamer attacks PS360 gamer with graphics are everything argument. 2. PS360 gamer attacks Nintendo gamer with graphics are everything argument. 3. Nintendo gamer patiently waits for PS360 gamer to go the route of SEGA, ATARI, and NEO GEO gamer. Basically, we are all one big happy family.
This is funny. But actually quite possible. What people need to realize is that the economy is in no way shape of form stable. It will be financial suicide for M$ or Sony to attempt to leap too far ahead in graphical prowess. If you want bleeding edge tech, someone has to pay for it, thus a higher price $400+ is unavoidable, and possibly even with that either console manufacturer will be taking a loss on the hardware, who can afford to do that right now? Additionally, with more power, to utulize, the higher dev costs go, which may even make games prices rise also, instead of 50 or 60$ games, maybe we get 70-80$ games, what kinda shit is that? Also, when people look at the launch games for Wii U, they say things like all they have a ports of other systems, but what they always overlook is what they need to do is look at the launch of any console, the libraries have all been ports and other slim pickings. Look at the launch of the 360 for example.
Ok, to be fair...Ninny has its powerhouse 1st party support....but of what? Mario, Zelda & Metroid. Donkey Kong too I suppose. Many lesser knowns. 3rd party devs going into next gen need to determine if building a game for all 3 next gen consoles (WiiU really isn't but whatever)....you can't seriously think that 3rd party devs will use that pad screen do you? Look at reality...two systems have the robust mp infrastructure to handle the like of COD & Halo....Wii demonstrates that Nintendo have horrible online. Trophies & cheevos by virtue of their purpose need to be mandatory. Or they mean nothing. And many gamers enjoy that. I have my PSN friend list full and nearly all of them at one time of another have boasted about rare trophies or less known games by their trophies. It's fun. And for some very competitive. I've even seen (sadly) whole clans for various games require min number of plats. Say what you will....but it tells the clan that your serious, play often and are committed. (and likely obsessive. Lol) And online infrastructure isn't just gaming these days. Nintendo doesn't announce their infrastructure because it's lacking. Simple as that. Would you hold back at E3 if you had the support ninny fanboys keep think they have? Why not take a look at the predecessor. Wii has notorious weak 3rd party support. I can understand from WiiU only owners are thinking HD amazing! But for those of us with the other consoles....why would we buy a WiiU?
I'm so confused! Why is WiiU not next gen? Did I miss the big specs reveal of something?
People care about power because just like game-play, graphics also sell games and devices/platforms.
It matters because whenever 360/PS3 decide to move over onto the next set of more powerful consoles there is a chance that third party support may move away from the Wii U just like they moved away from the Wii (even if they did try).
"Oh for Christ sakes.....do you need a fact for fact reason why WiiU is garbage? Ok here ya go! -2.5hr to charge pad for 3.5hr play time. -friend codes (modified) still used... -trophy/cheevos system is a mess, you only can see them on games that have them (yes, their f&@king optional)...miiverse huddlers around a game can see cheevos of they also own the game. -if game is above 30fps - using 2 pads halfs this on said pads. Tv may or may not be affected....still an unknown. -3rd part support IS atrocious. Ubisoft & Warner don't account for the majority. Many devs and journalists and gamers who were actually at E3 were not impressed. You might be, nothing wrong with that. -Iwata has been quoted : (I'll shorten it...google it if you don't believe me. And I wouldn't if I was you...because this stuff is the stuff of PR nightmares!) ---- won't compete with Sony or MS due to their head start on online infrastructure. Lol who' fault is that? ---- won't moneyhat devs (court 3rd party support) because they don't believe in that. Ok, cool...let's look at Wii, hmmm.. ---- 30 min wait for post in miiverse...everything not directed at friends directly is moderated. Lol the only thing im wondering is if you have a problem with any of this then why are u in here?
WeskerChildReborned dude you're very wrong about AC3 PS3 version was better than WII U version Zombiu also have flat graphic WII U can't compared with PS3/360 why cos the first PS3/360 games looks amazing compared to Zombiu http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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