That's according to Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli, who revealed in a CVG interview that a "respected developer" is working on a CryEngine 3 title for the Nintendo platform.
"My opinion of the Wii U is very high," he said. "It's just that we didn't have a business case unfortunately that justifies us making a game for it."
Big victory there.
How do you figure? If they've only managed to match outgoing technology, they haven't really done much, have they?
At minimum, x720 and PS4 will be as powerful as a 7 year-old system. AT MINIMUM.
And he is saying it because he is complaining about the people who thinks the WiiU is weaker than x360:
“From my perspective I do not understand the public’s concerns that the Wii U is weaker than PS3 and 360. That I cannot see. From my perspective the Wii U is minimum as powerful as Xbox 360.”
He is just using it to say: NO, WiiU isn't weaker than the x360, so stop making dumb articles about it at sites like N4G.
Nintendo's philosophy for nearly the past decade has been that 'next gen' is not solely reserved to graphics and processing, but in their minds, innovative ways of playing. A surprise, I know.
Lets see how big it's when XBX3 and PS4 comes out :D
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U-console is more powerful than current gen consoles, it's impossible to think it'll be on par with PS360 but it'll not hold much against the new systems from MS and Sony
All this power talk is total stupid and means nothing when comparing the 360 graphics to wiiu look at the tech demo's and there early tech demos on weaker dev kits then we have today and look at all the ports at E3,Some might not of shown the graphics off as the controller was more important but Gearbox makes it clear the wiiu is a powerful powerful console and its a true next gen console END OF the WiiU version will be the best looking version ???
There saying the GHZ is simular which means nothing when comparing actual performance the wiiu does 1080p native and 60fps end of get over it the power can be comparable to 360/ps3 but in terms of feature sets the wiiu is leagues above and you will see this very soon.
that means next get is already 2 years behind at minimum
What kind of CPU and GPU it has ?
How much RAM and what kind ?
Does it come with a Hard Drive ?
Physical Media ?
... ETC.
As for WiiU is 'minimum as powerful as Xbox 360', it better be more powerful then a 7 year old system.
ESPECIALLY this far off from release
nintendo releases more details on a conference of their own around september
they did it for wii 3ds and now wiiu
nintendo said WE WILL NOT BE RELEASING PRICE NOR LAUNCH DATE AT E3
and people where STILL expected that info in e3
THAT is not as good sign on the status of the human race
Hard drive as the basic Specs show there is no HDD unless that changes in the next few months.
They've already confirmed that it has proprietary discs that hold 25GB.
For the love of god. Blue folower, IBM have already confirmed that the WII U will have a Power7 CPU that out does both the current machines CPU's and is very modern.
+1 rep for the info.
Anyone know the GPU manufactuare?
Saying its a 1-4 GB GPU doesn't tell much about the performance these days.
The devil is in the details.
God knows I didn't play Wii Sports because of the graphics. I owned a Nintendo DS lite, but never owned a PSP. I owned all of them because of the unique experiences Nintendo provides.
I also own a PS3 and an Xbox 360, and probably will get a Wii U. However, I don't really think Wii U will be a huge success. My Xbox 360 with SmartGlass and Kinect will likely be able to do more.
Also, minimum means lower ceiling not upper. Most modern PCs are at a minimum as powerful as an Xbox 360 or PS3! Doesn't say much, does it!
"Chuk5
At minimum, it's as powerful as a 7 year-old system.
Big victory there."
^ This guy gets all the agrees
"PygmelionHunter
I've seen 360 games that look worse than PS2 games, so there's that, this only means that the worst thing you could produce for the Wii U will look like a 360 game..."
^ This guy gets all the disagrees.
Why is it like that? Because the users of this website never get passed the title of the article. Sad, sad day.
Man you fanboys twist anything to make it sound appealing. I dont see how a comparison to a 360 is a good thing. Why didn't crytek compare to ps3? So generally a Wii u could possibly be less powerful than a ps3. (by that logic). Whatever it is, its still sounds like Wii u's capabilities are underwhelming.
All it means that at lowest level games will look like 360/PS3 titles...
Also if you read the article he says WiiU runs CryEgine smoothly... Because of what was revealed at E3 we know WiiU will render all games at 720p 60 FPSunless it's using two controllers in which case it will be. 720p 30FPS...can PS3/360 do that? The answer is no... The upscale from like 540p at 30FPS....
How many of you spotted that?
So at minimum its as powerful as a graphics card 7-8 years ago. That's nice to know, but I already knew that. Nintendo needs to stop trolling its own fans and supporters. They are doing this on purpose. Its some type of tactic to make you speculate. Seems like its working.
Got to love the hypocrisy of this gaming site... Negative rumors of the Wii U high lighted with negative comments. Positive rumors or actual factual information are over looked and dismissed as fails.
The fact is you just cannot keep a good company down. Wii U will be Nintendo's next great success (hardware sales) with better 3rd party support (much better software sales which means more support from those waiting and see).
You can't make statements like that, then try to get out of disagrees by saying "TO ME".
As fantastic as they all look, there are better looking games on PC.
I only own a PS3 and those games don't compare to PC games. Saying they look better to you just means you have poor judgment.
PC games look significantly better than the PS3 games you mentioned above. That's not an opinion. It's a fact.
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3rd party developers just suck at making games for Nintendo, not the other way around. If they want there games to sell, make em good. They don't and then they start b!tch!ing about how their games can't sell on Nintendo hardware.
And the Gamecube was wanna the best Nintendo consoles ever, it had great support. Besides the awesome 1st party games, we had all those Star wars games and RE games. Plus the likes of Battalion Wars and Killer 7. The gamecubedidnt' get all the multiplats but thats ok because it great exclusive supports that made up for it.
Context ftw. Besides, it's only an estimation.
If it runs CryEngine 3 "beautifully", as stated, then the WiiU is fine.
I just think its impossible for Nintendo to create a hardcore persona. I think they fear losing their core base.
Other than his estimation, this same developer also said that the WiiU runs CryEngine 3 "beautifully". Perhaps it is a matter of perspective, but this interview came off as a WiiU win imo.
Lastly...
-"I just think its impossible for Nintendo to create a hardcore persona. I think they fear losing their core base".
It really sounds like you contradicted yourself there, but I guess it depends on how you choose to define "core base".
Imo Nintendo's "core base" are the Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros., and Pokemon fans. I fail to see how a "hardcore persona" would scare us off... we have only been begging for it since the Wii launched.
If you take a pc from 2005....vs a pc built today...would you expect it to be only comparable?
I know consoles are a different beast.....but still.
If next gen ps4/720 are a slight upgrade....will all you Nintendo/other console owners use the same argument? Just because nintendo entered the HD era late doesn't give them a free rude on expected performance and graphics issues.
Sony produces one powerhouse of a console and suddenly they always had more powerful hardware. Nintendo releases one weaker console (that we know of this far) and suddenly they always produced weak hardware.
It makes no sense!
Had you said "Nintendo will always lag hardware wise compared to MS...." your point would have been valid.
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look at the graphics of metroid prime and compare it to ANY ps2 game.
RAM is 1.5 GB... Xbox has 512 so 3 times the RAM
Goddamn people look it up before you disagree...
I do agree that Power7 is a streamlined CPU and vastly more efficient and more powerful than the Cell CPU.
Even if Nintendo makes cuts to the CPU to give them more room to for playful games. There is still strong chance of it being able to run PS3/X360 quality or better games. Just due to the small bump it potentially has. Its already confirmed to run Unreal Engine 3 at same level as PS3/X360. CryEngine 3 on WiiU is confirmed as well. Even a game coming on CE 3. http://www.joystiq.com/2012...
If rumor of Nintendo giving it a high price is true then the console will definitely be packing some strong hardware.
The power of the Wii u.
P.S not trying to burst you're bubble. Nothing wrong with being excited. Good for you.
Read people. And really, technically, the 720 and the PS4 will be as powerful as the 360 "at minimum."
But the main thing you guys gotta understand is that parts as weak as the ones in the PS3 and 360 don't even EXIST anymore. Nintendo couldn't make the Wii U on-par with the 360 even if they TRIED. Technology that old is virtually non-existent now, and it would cost Nintendo more to request the production of parts that weak than it would for them to just go ahead and buy stronger parts.
I mean If I really cared for specs that much I would just get a PC + gamepad + HDMI > HD tv....O wait I have.
Sure it costed me 1200 euro. But it comes with so many more features. Awesome investment. Now I just need to get a second GTX460 and i'm good to go for another 5 years.
These specs seem to be fine for developers. I just Nintendo to allow Retro do another metroid game. Sega+ N F-zero. I would instantly go out and buy that shizz.
If you took a Q6600 (quadcore chip from a few years back) vs the modern equivalent like the I5 (quadcore modern architecture) and under clocked it to what the older tech was (keeping heat and form factor) you should still achieve a good performance gain.. It is just like taking a top of the line Video card like for example an AMD 5950 and comparing it to a bottom of the line next gen like 6950.. The gains ARENT huge , but they are significant because newer video cards use faster memory and newer cpus also user faster memory....
High end PCs all have great graphics but the jump between the medium settings and the HIGH settings arent that noticeable.. Wii U will be fine , wait till first parties build games from the ground up to utilize the tech.. it took sony multiple years before they got The Last of Us or BEYOND..
Exactly. Not only that, but the gameplay and the core (and the soul) of the game is the same, for example, COD it's exactly the same experience between 360, PS3, and a high-end PC.
People looking for a "giant lap" in graphics on next gen will be a bit dissapointed. Lets hope our wallets wont.
Stay classy, N4G.
I don't know how long Nintendo are planning to stay hush about all this but it's not doing them any good. And also there's so much damage control going on here its funny.
If you read the article you would know there is no "damage control" and if you studied the history, you'd know Nintendo has never been significantly weaker like the Wii. Hell, at one time their slogan was "Now you'r e playing with Power."
:WiiU at minimum is more powerful than 360
:CryEngine3 runs beautiful on WiiU
So if CE3 can run great on WiiU, I have no doubts that UE4 can as well...
I think people are going to be in for a bit of a shock next generation, PS4 and Xbox 720 are probably only going to be 6-8x more powerful than their current versions. Which would put the Wii at less of a disadvantage than people are currently thinking.
Developers and everything that has leaked so far have all but confirmed that the next generation wont be that big of a leap in tech.
The fact that the Wii U will run games at a native resolution of 720p and eventually 1080p means the WORLD of a difference in terms of hardware and how crisp stuff will look.. The 360 and PS3 could barely run games at 720p and dont have a single game that runs at 1080p without being upscaled... That alone should tell you that the hardware is better and the games will look better... People right now are just comparing some of the multiplatform games.. but all of these are like 6 months away from release and were just fast and dirty ports... None of them have been optimized or even built from the ground up on the new hardware.. So of course you arent going to see NEXT GEN graphics in AC3... lol the game was made for ps3 and xbox if you just port it you wont be seeing much of a difference...
"The PS3 does about 25gflops at double precision. The i7 920 does 80gflops at double precision. The cell processor has been considered ghetto tech for a good couple years already "
the cell do that gflops working in linear way (lots of coding needed)...the cell is a numbers crasher.....a 40 dollars cpu (not linear working) today is more versatile and faster than the cell
sorry double post :(
the cell cpu is old ..slow and cheap...compared to what we have today...man
"The PS3 does about 25gflops at double precision. The i7 920 does 80gflops at double precision. The cell processor has been considered ghetto tech for a good couple years already "
the cell do that gflops working in linear way (lots of coding needed)...the cell is a numbers cruncher.....a 40 dollars cpu (not linear working) today is more versatile and faster than the cell
and seen that IBM confirmed the cpu will be their Power7 here the specs
max 33.12 GFLOPS per core
max 264.96 GFLOPS per chip
x core...and the version of this cpu r..4 , 6 or 8 cores
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
and here the ibm talking
http://www.engadget.com/201...
http://wiiudaily.com/wii-u-...
ecc ecc...just search on google IBM CONFIRM POWER7 WII U
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