Crytek estimates Wii U is 'minimum as powerful as Xbox 360'

That's according to Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli, who revealed in a CVG interview that a "respected developer" is working on a CryEngine 3 title for the Nintendo platform.

"My opinion of the Wii U is very high," he said. "It's just that we didn't have a business case unfortunately that justifies us making a game for it."

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CouldHaveYelledUiiW2070d ago

Please note: he said, "At minimum"

Chuk52070d ago

At minimum, it's as powerful as a 7 year-old system.
Big victory there.

PopRocks3592070d ago

Bigger than you think, apparently.

Hoje03082070d ago

How do you figure? If they've only managed to match outgoing technology, they haven't really done much, have they?

Hisiru2070d ago (Edited 2070d ago )

At minimum, x720 and PS4 will be as powerful as a 7 year-old system. AT MINIMUM.

And he is saying it because he is complaining about the people who thinks the WiiU is weaker than x360:
“From my perspective I do not understand the public’s concerns that the Wii U is weaker than PS3 and 360. That I cannot see. From my perspective the Wii U is minimum as powerful as Xbox 360.”

He is just using it to say: NO, WiiU isn't weaker than the x360, so stop making dumb articles about it at sites like N4G.

mewhy322070d ago

Well if it's as powerful as Xbox 360 then it's doing extremely well. Developers love the Xbox 360's power and flexibility. I would have liked to have seen more from Nintendo, being that's it's next gen time again, but they're all about wii. Nuff said.

PygmelionHunter2070d ago

I've seen 360 games that look worse than PS2 games, so there's that, this only means that the worst thing you could produce for the Wii U will look like a 360 game...

Wenis2069d ago

Its interesting how people are getting so worked up about the Wii U's tech specs, as if Nintendo hasn't had comparably low specs to other systems before. The Wii obviously was just slightly better than PS2/Xbox in terms of graphics/processing, the Nintendo DS was behind the PSP in said categories as well, and even the 3DS can only really match the PSP still, and is behind the Vita in graphics/processing as well.

Nintendo's philosophy for nearly the past decade has been that 'next gen' is not solely reserved to graphics and processing, but in their minds, innovative ways of playing. A surprise, I know.

sikbeta2069d ago


Lets see how big it's when XBX3 and PS4 comes out :D


U-console is more powerful than current gen consoles, it's impossible to think it'll be on par with PS360 but it'll not hold much against the new systems from MS and Sony

dredgewalker2069d ago

I have to agree with Wenis, but the problem with Nintendo's tactic is that it makes it hard for 3rd party devs to bring or port games to their system. If the next xbox or playstation is 7 times more powerful than the current generation then chance of multiplat games coming to the WiiU might become slim in my opinion.

BattleAxe2069d ago

At maximum its as powerful as the 6 year old PS3.

metroid322069d ago

Powerful means MHZ/GHZ not actual graphics or feature set of the more modern CPU/GPU every1 is jusmping on this power talk and it means nothing look does the 360 have 2gig of RAM/32MB RAM/DX11 comparable graphics/SM5.0/1.2 terraflops CPU/900mhz GPU the 6770 ubisofts words it might get a lower mhz version like 750mhz but it will have the power of a 900mhz gpu/Watson tech/

All this power talk is total stupid and means nothing when comparing the 360 graphics to wiiu look at the tech demo's and there early tech demos on weaker dev kits then we have today and look at all the ports at E3,Some might not of shown the graphics off as the controller was more important but Gearbox makes it clear the wiiu is a powerful powerful console and its a true next gen console END OF the WiiU version will be the best looking version ???

There saying the GHZ is simular which means nothing when comparing actual performance the wiiu does 1080p native and 60fps end of get over it the power can be comparable to 360/ps3 but in terms of feature sets the wiiu is leagues above and you will see this very soon.

fatstarr2067d ago

"In the same interview the Crytek boss claimed his studio's technology is already "way beyond" next-gen console specifications."

that means next get is already 2 years behind at minimum

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fermcr2070d ago

It's not a good sign that Nintendo hasn't released the WiiU specifications by now.

What kind of CPU and GPU it has ?
How much RAM and what kind ?
Does it come with a Hard Drive ?
Physical Media ?
... ETC.

As for WiiU is 'minimum as powerful as Xbox 360', it better be more powerful then a 7 year old system.

live2play2070d ago

whats not a good sign is people seem to think nintendo actually does that sort of thing
ESPECIALLY this far off from release

nintendo releases more details on a conference of their own around september

they did it for wii 3ds and now wiiu


and people where STILL expected that info in e3

THAT is not as good sign on the status of the human race

Thecraft19892069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

The Specs Nintendo never release.

Hard drive as the basic Specs show there is no HDD unless that changes in the next few months.

They've already confirmed that it has proprietary discs that hold 25GB.

For the love of god. Blue folower, IBM have already confirmed that the WII U will have a Power7 CPU that out does both the current machines CPU's and is very modern.

tee_bag2422069d ago


+1 rep for the info.

Anyone know the GPU manufactuare?
Saying its a 1-4 GB GPU doesn't tell much about the performance these days.
The devil is in the details.

000012070d ago (Edited 2070d ago )

wouldn't it be quite apparent Nintendo didn't go out and buy 7 year old hardware for the Wii U? how much hardware has came out between 2005 and 2012? A pretty decent amount in all departments. So why does everyone feel like they are limited to buying 7 year old hardware, imo i would expect them to go anywhere as far back as buying 3 year old hardware and all the way up to the end of 2011, adding in hardware. im just not understanding the reasoning behind people thinking after 7 years the best hardware Nintendo could buy is only going to be as good as the stuff Microsoft or Sony used 7 years ago.

SilentNegotiator2070d ago

An intel atom is weak as can be and comparable to some really old processors, so why can't whatever tech they use be comparable to "7 year old technology"?

DragonKnight2070d ago

It isn't about what Nintendo has access to, but what they will actually put in the system. Nintendo is known for making the most marginal upgrades possible to their consoles. It's why they either lose very little money, or none at all, on each console sold and start making profits a lot sooner than MS or Sony. It's very likely they'd use the cheapest tech they can get that has some slight performance increases, and thus it wouldn't be surprising that they'd use 7 year old tech. The Wii is essentially a Gamecube 1.5 in terms of tech itself. The 3DS is even less of an upgrade than that.

nukeitall2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

Nintendo has a history of innovating with unique experiences instead of wow you with high specs and flashy graphics.

God knows I didn't play Wii Sports because of the graphics. I owned a Nintendo DS lite, but never owned a PSP. I owned all of them because of the unique experiences Nintendo provides.

I also own a PS3 and an Xbox 360, and probably will get a Wii U. However, I don't really think Wii U will be a huge success. My Xbox 360 with SmartGlass and Kinect will likely be able to do more.

Also, minimum means lower ceiling not upper. Most modern PCs are at a minimum as powerful as an Xbox 360 or PS3! Doesn't say much, does it!

360ICE2069d ago

Please note: he said, "as Xbox 360" ;)

nukeitall2069d ago

Exactly, because the other consoles aren't as powerful so you compare it to the most powerful one! XD

Chidori2069d ago

It's obvious that 95% of the people in the comments here didn't read the article.

At minimum, it's as powerful as a 7 year-old system.
Big victory there."

^ This guy gets all the agrees

I've seen 360 games that look worse than PS2 games, so there's that, this only means that the worst thing you could produce for the Wii U will look like a 360 game..."

^ This guy gets all the disagrees.

Why is it like that? Because the users of this website never get passed the title of the article. Sad, sad day.

MrMister2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

@ CouldHaveYelled:

Man you fanboys twist anything to make it sound appealing. I dont see how a comparison to a 360 is a good thing. Why didn't crytek compare to ps3? So generally a Wii u could possibly be less powerful than a ps3. (by that logic). Whatever it is, its still sounds like Wii u's capabilities are underwhelming.

yabhero2069d ago

NextBox and PS4 are minimum as powerful as 360... See what I did there?
All it means that at lowest level games will look like 360/PS3 titles...
Also if you read the article he says WiiU runs CryEgine smoothly... Because of what was revealed at E3 we know WiiU will render all games at 720p 60 FPSunless it's using two controllers in which case it will be. 720p 30FPS...can PS3/360 do that? The answer is no... The upscale from like 540p at 30FPS....

DeadlyFire2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

This article also confirms CryEngine 4 E3 2013 inbound. :0

How many of you spotted that?

So at minimum its as powerful as a graphics card 7-8 years ago. That's nice to know, but I already knew that. Nintendo needs to stop trolling its own fans and supporters. They are doing this on purpose. Its some type of tactic to make you speculate. Seems like its working.

donman12069d ago

@ CouldHaveYelledUiiW

Got to love the hypocrisy of this gaming site... Negative rumors of the Wii U high lighted with negative comments. Positive rumors or actual factual information are over looked and dismissed as fails.

The fact is you just cannot keep a good company down. Wii U will be Nintendo's next great success (hardware sales) with better 3rd party support (much better software sales which means more support from those waiting and see).

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joab7772070d ago

Yeah. I don't get it. If they can survive on their own titles, then they will b fine. Many hardcore gamers and gamers with kids will grab it. For me, when the wiiu goes on sale, how much info do I have on next Gen consoles? If I know their specs and price, I will wait. But, if I do want a shiny new toy that may release some games that are a bit prettier than this Gen I a PC. Good luck Nintendo!

GamingTruth2070d ago

i wont buy a pc til i see something in my eyes that looks better than last of us and beyond 2 souls and gow ascension, and key word "TO ME"

StanSmith2070d ago


You can't make statements like that, then try to get out of disagrees by saying "TO ME".

As fantastic as they all look, there are better looking games on PC.

Hoje03082070d ago

I only own a PS3 and those games don't compare to PC games. Saying they look better to you just means you have poor judgment.

Boody-Bandit2069d ago (Edited 2069d ago )

Why is it guys with names like this -> Gaming Truth end up being anything but?

PC games look significantly better than the PS3 games you mentioned above. That's not an opinion. It's a fact.

360ICE2069d ago

Haha, guess you've got a point there...

BrutallyHONEST 0_0

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NYC_Gamer2070d ago

The big problem is will Nintendo fans support third party software?

Chuk52070d ago

If past is prologue, the answer is no.

Tachyon_Nova2069d ago

If studios release the right game with the right marketing then it should still sell. Problem is, anything without Mario or Zelda in the title traditionally flops on Nintendo hardware in the west.

corrus2070d ago

I think no that's why Nintendo not deserves third party

Yodagamer2070d ago

I always have, i bought a bunch of wii third party games, if they are good, but I think the problem is that wii owners got burned by crappy launch third party support and they are concerned to get burned again. Even to this day i'll be skeptical of third party software on wii.

linkratos2070d ago

The problem is when is the last time 3rd parties gave their all on a NIntendo platform? No one wants Resident Evil: On Rails. The Gamecube sold terribly to begin with so there was no userbase, and it's not like it received most multiplats. The N64 there was basically no 3rd party supports. So you have to go all the way back to the Super Nintendo.

Ricdog2070d ago

I don't like the wii much but those RE games sold well, why do you think they made more? As well as the COD games on the Wii sold great for the console, despite being weaker than their hd console counterparts.

3rd party developers just suck at making games for Nintendo, not the other way around. If they want there games to sell, make em good. They don't and then they start b!tch!ing about how their games can't sell on Nintendo hardware.

And the Gamecube was wanna the best Nintendo consoles ever, it had great support. Besides the awesome 1st party games, we had all those Star wars games and RE games. Plus the likes of Battalion Wars and Killer 7. The gamecubedidnt' get all the multiplats but thats ok because it great exclusive supports that made up for it.

chaostrophies2069d ago

n64 had some serious 3rd party support, actually.

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mike1up2070d ago (Edited 2070d ago )

-"From my perspective I do not understand the public's concerns that the Wii U is weaker than PS3 and 360," he said. "That I cannot see. From my perspective the Wii U is minimum as powerful as Xbox 360."

Context ftw. Besides, it's only an estimation.

If it runs CryEngine 3 "beautifully", as stated, then the WiiU is fine.

joab7772070d ago

How fine will it be in November 2013 if next Gen consoles release? It has tizzies same head start the 360 had on ps3...the difference being that the 360 was basically as powerful as its competition. Why didn't Nintendo take the chance to jump ahead and do to Microsoft and Sony what was done to Microsoft last Gen. People are jonesing for next Gen consoles. It would a been a coup. Everyone would a jumped least for the time being.

I just think its impossible for Nintendo to create a hardcore persona. I think they fear losing their core base.

mike1up2070d ago (Edited 2070d ago )

That is a fair question to ask, but we both know that it is also impossible to answer at this time. We have not seen detailed specs for any of the 3 consoles.

Other than his estimation, this same developer also said that the WiiU runs CryEngine 3 "beautifully". Perhaps it is a matter of perspective, but this interview came off as a WiiU win imo.


-"I just think its impossible for Nintendo to create a hardcore persona. I think they fear losing their core base".

It really sounds like you contradicted yourself there, but I guess it depends on how you choose to define "core base".

Imo Nintendo's "core base" are the Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros., and Pokemon fans. I fail to see how a "hardcore persona" would scare us off... we have only been begging for it since the Wii launched.

corrus2070d ago

Because Nintendo not want to give their money that's why they make cheap consoles and that's why they don't pay someone else to make them explosives titles