Many of you might have read about a purported internal Microsoft strategy document that apparently "leaked" earlier this week, outlining its plans for the next Xbox system.
They didn't deny it Seems the documents were legit
I just hope some of the specs have changed somewhat since these plans were drawn out in 2010.
I don't expect the processor to change, maybe the graphics card will be a bit more powerful, using a variation of the ati 7000 series. Other than that, the specs wont change greatly.
Do you think it takes 2 months to build a new console? They just put random things toghether and call it a day? No. These things take years of R&D. If Xbox 720 were to be released in 2013, ofc the plan would have to be drawn in 2010. to give few years to design and such. We all know Xbox 720 isnt going to be much powerful from just looking at how MS was focusing heavily on casuals. They are all about kinects and casuals. They may have few exclusives lined up on launch to draw some gamers in, but that will dry up within a year or two.
The fact that they didn't deny doesn't necessarily imply that the docs were legit. They neither confirmed them nor denied the documents, just simply ignored them. So I don't think this is even really news... X
you really need to learn how to draw conclusions. you don't have a clue how rational thinking works. we all know? give me a break. we don't KNOW anything.
I imagine that they will use more up to date tech. but the general concept is probably right. If they use 2 year old tech they sort of doom them selves.
neither confirm nor deny. It looks like the typical PR comment of "no comment" other than them talking up the 360. Are people expecting them to pull a tony stark and admit that there is a 720? We know they are working on it but they obviously wont show anything until they feel it is time to do so. Similar to sony and their claim of not showing the ps4 until it is significant enough of an upgrade to existing gen.
ApplEaglElephant there is no R&d in current tech... they just need to figure out how to do it at an affordable price for consumers. ON TOPIC... MS didn't give an answer either way, their just feeding you all the hype that they want.
You seem concerned about xbox. Are you buying one? 56 page fake was unlikely to most from the start. I thought it was real based on the number of cores and the DVR claim. Can't wait to see what the video processing will be like for the BLU RAY drive. I like watching video content on XBL more than on my stand alone Bd player because of XBL.
Should've gotten yourself a ps3 then dude, blu-ray and a bunch of video streaming options (some of which Ms just included). P.S Can't find something? That's okay use media search, Dropbox, or find what you're looking for in the web browser and save it directly to the ps3 HDD.
Why would I buy a PS3 when I want a next gen xbox? LoL I simply said I wanted to see if the 720 Blu-Ray picture matched my stand alone BLU RAY player picture(Bdc6900) Why would I buy A PS3-a-current-gen-console with a inferior picture to my current standalone player, with PSN not being as rich. to satisfy my next gen needs? The trolls in here suggesting or implying the leaked specs are weak don't understand 8 times more powerful is a lot. Yes things will be revised, that a given, they could have completely changed hardware components and or brands by now. Stronger than the specs leaked for the PS4 . Just want the video processor/processing to be solid vs the inferior processing of dvds in the 360. I used my 80gig ps3 fat for BD movies, the samsung was gifted to me revealing it's picture far better than what the PS3 had Is it just me that feels like there are more PS3 fans in xbox news than there is xbox fans at all times.
There are many, many talented individuals who can forge documents of massive size. Let's not underestimate the capabilities of a forger. That said, this is looking increasingly real, expecting to hear and or read further news related.
@Greenpowerz MS isn't exactly known for their video processing and codecs - so don't expect the world. You shouldn't be such a blind fanboy and give Sony credit when it's due... The PS3 clearly spanked any 360 or other Blu ray player that money could buy. That's before even talking about its Media Center capabilities. Iv whored both systems in this way, i can speak from experience here so i dont care to hear your 1 sided rebuttal either.
If a new xbox comes out, I'm buying it.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it WAS real, and that they've made a few changes in their plans since 2010 but that it is relatively similar to what was leaked.
Pathetic. At least being as powerful as a PS3 would be much better and more appealing.
This document now has legs. They may change a few things but the majority of the information now seems legit.
Of course they're legit. Why else would Microsoft get the documents taken down for copyright infringement?
would have been smarter AND cheaper just to leave it up. Having it taken down by threats from a lawyer just makes it appear true.
Because it is spreading misinformation? Misinformation can be very damaging to a company, because it sets up expectations. That's partly how Sony killed the Dreamcast, because Sony managed to drum up so much hype for the PS2. In a similar vein, if you paint an expectation of something unreachable, and then the product releases it's going to be disappointing, even though it might be a great product!
Like you read: Focus on kinect. It will be another kinect console
Hopefully Kinect will be responsive enough to satisfy the hardcore gamers needs! :D
or they dont want the wrong message sent
I wouldn't be 100% sure about that. If I were Microsoft I'd do exactly what they did: release an official statement that doesn't out right confirm or deny it. Sheople will naturally think silence is consent, thence accept the rumour as true when in reality the final specs could be better then the rumuor. Infact, maybe MS deliberately released the document to through people off: and they're only going to through people off by showing something that seems plausable. There's only one problem: I'm not sure any corporate company is that smart - or maybe brave is the word. In which case, these rumours are probebly true then, not a elaborate fabrication to hide their real plans.
If Xbox 720 specs are right and it can play 360 games too (That means all), I think I might get one. I know I might get the WIi U just for Mario and Zelda games. What I wonder is if it has bluray in it, wouldn't that mean Sony is making money off of the Xbox 720 do to Sony owning the rights to bluray? This wouldn't be much of a shock, mostly because Sony and Microsoft do work together (but mostly on PC's).
Sony does not own blu-ray, I do not know where that is coming from, bluray is a format not a brand. Its almost like saying Sony owns 3d.
Sony and many others are the fathers of blu-ray. They own a % of the profits. Along with others they did create the new storage medium.
Don't know why theLyonKing is getting disagrees... I guess people just click disagree out of stupidity. I honestly don't know if Sony gets a %, but they are part of the group that developed and continue to oversee the development of blu-ray. check link http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
MS also has a stake in the bluray format. They initially were playing both sides (HDDVD/Bluray) due to their VC-1 codec being available for both. Bluray support various codecs and VC-1 is one of them. MS is also a partner with disney and sony and several others over the creation and use of the AACS drm on bluray discs. MS has their fingers in almost everything.
sony gets royalties off every blu ray disc/ blu ray drive sold so yes they will make money off xbox if it includes it.
@darthv72-THANK YOU! I hate when people keep making it sound like MS is not going to add Bluray because "its Sonys" Um...yes Sony has a stake in Bluray's success...so does about a quarter of the tech industry including MS themselves. Bluray WILL BE IN 720. I find it sad if people think that this is some sort of big news. They said it themselves that when the time came THEY WILL add Bluray. Sony also helped push CD-Rom back in the day AND DVD...so it would mean that Sony is "making money off" 360 dvds too. Only new peps to gaming seem to think this yet disregard Sony's involvement in the very format that is in the 360 RIGHT NOW! I just can't stop laughing!
@darthv72, MS admitted they only added HD-DVD in 360 to take market share away from Blu-ray. They have no stake in Blu-ray otherwise their would also be a Blu-ray player addon.
@bitbydeath, you may be a bit misinformed. Not wrong but just a bit misinformed. MS went with the hddvd to stall bluray while at the same time were building their primary goal. Digital distribution. Their intent was to have an all digital media center but people were hesitant about it at first. Now we have full digital releases of movies, music and games on not only the 360 but the ps3 as well. MS idea of digital distribution may have seemed pretty hard to achieve then but now it is an integral part of how things work. As for a bluray add-on...that wouldnt benefit them very much. Especially when you see bluray players are so cheap these days. Even sony is facing stiff competition from the likes of lg, samsung, rca and vizio for cheap stand alone bluray players that are offering all sorts of streaming features. bluray used to be a selling point to the ps3 when players were more expensive. Like when the ps2 was the cheap dvd player in its time until prices got really cheap. Now the selling point is obviously the games but if someone is looking for a cheap bluray player, the ps3 isnt it anymore.
@darthv72, i agree 100% :-)
It says "blu-ray"
Nah, Sony doesn't own Blu-ray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... It was just a big feature at the time, and even now, to have in the PS3.
I would say Sony make more money on bluray tech than MS. Finally welcome to bluray after 7 years.
Sony makes a lot of dough from Ms. Remember Ms uses Sony's music and movies catalog, now blu-ray (next gen). Boy let's hope Ms doesn't skimp on paying Sony like they did Motorola.
BluRay uses a MS patent btw. and Sony sells Windows PCs.
microsoft would have to pay royalties for blu ray usage
It was legit. The fact a law firm who's client base consists of various companies INCLUDING Microsoft, got the source website to take down the document is very telling.
That removed all doubt.
That response was laiden with so much meh!
IMO, this would have been MS response no matter if the document was real or fake.
Yup i'd say they were real specs, now the ? is, Are those STILL the specs for the next gen?
I doubt someone would go far enough to create a 56 page document with that much information just to troll the world of gaming =/.
I can't wait for the next Xbox.
Well, they haven't denied it so it must be legit...interesting...
It's clearly a freakin' automated response from Microsoft. A computer probably scanned the question posited by Eurogamer.net, found the text "XBox 720" in the body, and shot back a standardized response to all XBox 720 speculations.
I think its pretty clear the plans had some legitness to them..but how legit? Were these just one version / pitch for the next box out of many? Hard to know or say at this point but clearly the strategies in that document feel pretty consistent with what we are seeing from them overall.
300$ thats a win
I heard Sony: ahahahhahahahahahahahahah
where did the idea of doubling the 360 to get 720 come from. sounds ridiculous.
Name of story is Microsoft Comments on Leaked Document... inside story Microsoft does not comment on the document, just says "when we have something to share we will".
Can't dodge us forever MS, Can't dodge us forever...
Next gen, I will buy ALL NEXT GEN CONSOLES. luckily, theres ONLY 2. PS4 and XBox8. The Angry Bird crowd got their Wii U.
I'm sure the Next-Gen systems will have similar CONCEPTS. What is shown in these documents only gives us an idea of what the future will look like. But I wouldn't doubt MS' plans for the NextBox have radically changed within about two years.
for all the ppl "A slide on core hardware indicates that the next Xbox will be designed to be scalable in the number of CPU cores and their frequencies." obv if the documents was legit...sure..they start to "think" the console years ago but with scalable power in mind...u think they dont know that 2010/2013 in technology r like 10 years in life?......they did tests probably with some processor who they can upgrade ..etc etc... scalable cores and frequencies....mean .."anything"..like saying a core duo .nd a quad core 3ghz .... and like i said ...in other post..this will be the year where microsoft will invest money like sony did with the ps3......so i bet...ms will come out with something of big... they r not just going in battle against sony (sony isnt this dangerous seen their economical situation..and samsung eating day by day their market in japan)..but against apple with ms surface.....wii u with kinect and smartglass....with all the boxtop and samsung smart tvs...with their software and the kinect sony can think just a first party games....ms dont have to do just that they have just an big ecosystem that is going to be all together with windows 8 ..for tablets xbox pcs..mobiles.. if they reach to do this...they win hands down when sony need to improve psn ...in like everything..secure..cross chats...apps...browser etc etc..they just have years of experience with windows...sony havent an OS...MS do it... yeah they could put some google chrome on..paying google...but isnt just the browser the problem.....well i think u understand what i mean...if the new os of the xbox will be w8....."normal" consoles like playstation or nindendo wii.........have to go back home and study the homeworks ...coz for ms will be very easy to produce things that go around all together in every pcs tablet mobile and console... and when u buy a new supernice w8 mobile...u wont come back home and use the ps4 but probably u would have an xbox..with u can continue to stay on xbl and than pass trough ur w8 tablet etc etc...building ecosystem is something big....guys..really big so what to expect android on the ps4? lool :D
Where is all the gimmick hating? I'm on an xbox article right?
Try a Sony or Nintendo article. Always plenty of hate goin on in them
I agree with thathreats! Rumors or not, those are some pretty powerful specs!
You need windows 7?
Or call of duty black ops?
Does the business plan incldue "Rush production and release a ton of malfunctioning units because these suckers will just keep buying them anyway"? That seemed to work out for them pretty well last time.
Microsoft are no good at making hardware. They should stick to making software. High failure rates with XBox 360 adversely impacted its sales. Sony on the other hand are the market leader at producing quality hardware and software. I hope the X720 is a quality build and has low failure rates on par with PS3 and Wii.