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Halo in 1080p, 60fps will "suck up all the power you have in next gen" - John Carmack

OXM UK: Xbox 720 will be Xbox 360 "with the knobs turned up", says DOOM creator.

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chukamachine1561d ago

Yes john.

It will look like what we have now on PC.

GTA6 will look like the GTA4 mods.

Crysis 4 will look like crysis 1 with highquality mods.

But that's the problem, i've seen it already.

If M$ want to rush a machine out which plays PC graphics now that's fine for them.

But i do not want SONY to go the same route.

Hardware makers should focus more on what take graphics power.

OneAboveAll1561d ago

You are forgetting one fundamental thing though. PC's are running a full on operating system with multiple background tasks. Consoles are dedicated gaming machines.

I'm still very amazed to see how Halo 4 can look as good as it does on such old hardware. If the 360 were running all the background tasks as a PC it wouldn't be possible but it's not, thus developers can use more of the systems resources on games.

Hufandpuf1561d ago (Edited 1561d ago )

"When people ask how tapped out is the current console generation, PCs are 10 times as powerful but you really are still not technically limited. Any creative vision that a designer could come up with, we can do a pretty good job representing on current generation and certainly on PC." - John Carmack

Straight from the article.

This Headline is a HUGE example of misinformation.

dirigiblebill1561d ago

Also from the article:
"If you take a current game like Halo which is a 30 hertz game at 720p," Carmack went on. "If you run that at 1080p, 60 frames with high dynamic frame buffers, all of a sudden you've sucked up all the power you have in the next-generation. It will be what we already have, but a lot better."

StayStatic1561d ago (Edited 1561d ago )

Not that much , most modern systems compensate greatly.

Even so it's common for people to shut most background tasks down before launching a game if the system can't handle it , but that seems to be a thing of the past.

decrypt1561d ago

@oneAboveAll

"You are forgetting one fundamental thing though. PC's are running a full on operating system with multiple background tasks. Consoles are dedicated gaming machines. "

Well yes PCs do have an OS running, however guess what?

The OS is primarily running in the background. The game is mostly running on the GPU. There is no OS overhead on the GPU.

This is why even PCs released with GPUs like 8800GTX back when consoles were new, still outperform current consoles.

PCs have tons have RAM, the OS is simply stored there, hence it has no influence on games performance.

Take an example of a game running on same spec PC. 1 PC has windows XP, the other has windows 7. As long as the PC has about 4 gigs of RAM. The game will perform simularly on both machines. Even though Windows 7 is much more resource heavy. Reason is because the OS has no impact on game performance, its the GPU that runs those assets, the CPU plays a part too, however with the number of cores on PCs these days it makes no difference.

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greenpowerz1561d ago

Oh boy...

7- 8 years is rushed? Sounds like damage control from a company and fans. Responding to the leaked 2 year old docs?

reznik_zerosum1561d ago

oh no console fascist here on N4G disagree !

MariaHelFutura1561d ago

Is it just me or is John Carmack super annoying?

Shaman1561d ago

Why? Because its not all sunshine and rainbows with him? I got a bad news for alot of folks thinking MS and Sony will deliver on tech like last time. They aren't going to. There has been enough leaks from guys working on it and who seen target specs, and it ain't so pretty.

PS4

AMD x86 4 core processor

underclocked Pitcairn gpu (~1.8 TFLOPS)

2GB of RAM (GDDR5, and Sony is not willing to go for more so they say)

720

AMD x86 6-8 core processor

Cape Verde GPU (1.1-1.5 TFLOPS)

6-8GB of RAM (its unknown if its 2GB GDDR5 plus 4/6 GB of cheap DDR3 in split, or is it all DDR3)

Basically, far cry from last big jump in tech. Considering its been almost 8 years its a shame.

MariaHelFutura1561d ago

No. The only shame is you think you know for sure what MS/Sony are planning because of the internet.

Twilightx71561d ago

But if you read it on the Internet,it's GOTTA be true, right?

chukamachine1561d ago

I'm not sure what people are expecting.

http://downloads.guru3d.com...

Download and run if you can.

TekoIie1561d ago

It really is just you...

joab7771561d ago

Yes and I really don't understand what he is saying. Maybe he is too smart for me. He is assuming that no one except him will work on anything but halo and CoD next Gen. And what's wrong with better games. That Xbox memo mentioned possible AR. Sony has already built TVs that show multiple full screen shots, blue ray, and AR glasses. VR has been worked on for years with serious health drawbacks.

Why does he assume that bigger and better consoles will not be used to evolve gaming. The new Xbox may link directly to win 8, becoming an entertainment super machine. Mobile gaming is being used in innovative ways too. It just seems as though if Microsoft and Sony don't release beta versions of the holodeck next Gen, it will simply be boring.

Vynzent1554d ago

Is it just me, or what that a fucktard question?

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sandman2241561d ago

I'd rather have the knobs turned all the way up then deal what our current consoles can do. So bring on the next gen.

r211561d ago

i kinda disagree with John, im pretty sure next gen will be more powerful than what he's implying. games this gen look quite stunning yet smooth and next gen there will be a huge leap in not only graphics but obviously hardware that is surely to be powerful enough to handle 1080 at 60fps.

Vynzent1554d ago

Carmack said there will be 1080 games at 60fps, perhaps you dind't get that.

What he's saying is that the only reall change will be that, the graphical crispness. Everything else will stay the same, including CoD's shit artificial intelligence.

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