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Sony: We won't show PS4 until it can demonstrate 'a significant leap'

Sony is not prepared to demonstrate its PlayStation 4 console until the system can demonstrate 'a significant leap' in technology, the group chief executive of SCE has explained.

Andrew House appeared to challenge the emerging view that the next batch of game consoles will not provide a considerable leap in technology. (Next-Gen, Sony)

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Trinity_   922d ago | Spam
NYC_Gamer  +   922d ago
I believe Sony wants to prove Nintendo wrong by bringing a much more powerful machine to the market that Wii-U
HammadTheBeast  +   922d ago
Swag.
SuperLupe  +   922d ago
ha ha :)
BrutallyBlunt  +   922d ago
Prove them wrong like they proved the Wii wrong with the Playstation 3 and then the Playstation Move? It's not all about technology, if it were the PC would be taking the lions den of all gaming related sales and software.

The Wii U shows a significant leap over the Wii and that is how it should be judged in the same context.
pixelsword  +   922d ago
Great for Sony; I like that they will try to push the envelope.

My only concern (and I'm watching closely for this for the PS3 and 360) is that the machine is very reliable.
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Trebius51  +   921d ago
I doubt Sony would rush to market and release hardware that breaks 40% of the time like a certain other company did...
CommonSense  +   921d ago
^^
you mean Sony in 2000?

love the hypocrisy, btw. never gets old. ;)

as for the article...uh? PC already shows that there is a significant leap. plus, releasing new hardware would push developers to develop for it.

this is just excuse making...and it's super transparent. which means anyone that doesn't have a huge bias can see right through it.
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LocutusEstBorg  +   921d ago
It's already designed. It cannot demonstrate anything more than it already can.
b163o1  +   921d ago
@ CommonSince

That is why I hate PC gamers.

We get it dude, you can upgrade your PC to a graphical beast. PC gamers or I should say "Most" PC gamers seem to think graphics make the game. SMH....
T900  +   921d ago
@b162o1

Stop kidding yourself. If anything its mostly about the games to PC gamers than anything else.

Check out the most played games on Steam, i can assure you they arent the graphical beasts.

Rather the mos tplayed games on Steam are:

Teamfortress 2
Dota 2
CS

http://store.steampowered.c...

PC gamers are still playing World of warcraft, Millions play it, Wow is no graphical beast.

Hell many PC gamers are playing Warcraft 3, which is 10 year old game now. I am personally playing Dota 1, which is a mod for Warcraft 3. Why are we playing these old games? Well thats because of the gameplay.

Coming back to the topic. I think Sony is only fooling their fanbase. Its clear the hardware that is far more powerful than current consoles is already out there. Sony and MS have taken too many losses this gen, which is why both of them want to be profiting of old hardware.

Its natural for console makers to fool their base, they do it because they can. Unfortunately most of the base on this site specially blindly follows whatever Sony has to say, its no secret.

Hence reasons being thrown are only excuses so they can profit of aging hardware.

@pixelsword

How did Sony push the envelope?

They released a console 1 year after MS, yet performance wise the differences are minimal. 1 year is a eternity in technological terms. Simple example is of a CPU or GPU released today definetely outperforms its 1 year old counterpart by atleast 1.5-2x performance.

When the Xbox 360 released it was atleast on par with high end PCs of that time, this is a fact.

When the PS3 released, it was barely equal to midrange PCs of that time.

Check this out:

http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

"Back when Sony announced the specifications of the PlayStation 3, everyone asked if it meant the end of PC gaming. After all Cell looked very strong and NVIDIA's RSX GPU had tremendous power. We asked NVIDIA how long it would take until we saw a GPU faster than the RSX. Their answer: by the time the PS3 ships. So congratulations to NVIDIA for making the PS3 obsolete before it ever shipped, as G80 is truly a beast. "

Sony hardly has been pushing any envelopes.
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ShinMaster  +   921d ago
Haven't seen as big difference between the PS3 and PC...
like the difference we saw between PS2 and PS3.

I'm glad Sony isn't rushing the PS4.
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decrypt  +   921d ago
"Haven't seen a difference between the PS3 and PC,like the difference we saw between PS2 and PS3 "

Lol.

Multiplats on the PC make current consoles look a gen old, what are you on about?

Hypo much, i bet if Sony today announced PS4 most of you would be cheerleading and would be giving reasons how you are tired of old hardware.
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snipes101  +   921d ago
Good.
ravinash  +   921d ago
@T900.

Actually, PS3 was delayed from release for about a year due to licencing issues with the BlueRay...so yeah, it was year old tech when it came out.

But I'm more than happy if they hold off as long as possible before releasing the next gen.
1. because I don't have to buy a new console.
2. They are still bring out plenty of great games for this Gen.

While PC games in a lot of cases may have better graphics, their not so great that I'm sitting there thinking I MUST UPGRADE!!!

Besides, most PC owners PCs are a few years old.
Not everyone can keep constantly upgrading their graphics card for the latest games.

As for fooling the fan base...I think most just see it for what it is. A company making business decisions to wait a while before making the large investment in rolling out the next model.
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Ihaa  +   922d ago
If they want a significant leap at a good price point so they don't fuck themselves over, guess you guys got a few more years of wait.
scissor_runner  +   922d ago
Wow I've seen the specs but I can't believe what he just said! This means they are going to wait on amd to get their price down. Or maybe they are waiting on tessalation to get better?

The leap included a significant leap in perceived polygon count along with a more interactive and effect friendly texturing system in the shader format.

To leap like that again you would need a tessalation engine that is 7x the performance we get on pcs. Deticated chips for shader based lighting.

Yet the ulimate leap would be loaded up hi res model like in zbrush and letting the hardware do all the scaling and mip map like operations.

Sonys only key is to develop or foster the development of chips that do this things. Sony really is dead in the water without new tech but these things take years to make unless you are nvidia and Amdati.

I believe we will get more of the last of us like games from them. I would love them to come up with a real solution yet I will call out hype ware at every turn.

In 3 more years the gtx 680 and 690 will be old gpus maybe we will see a ps4 then?
DarrenLambert  +   922d ago
I concur. Sony knows that slow and steady wins the race. None of this DVR, augmented reality, we own gaming by 2015, shove kinect down your throat nonsense. They plan, analyze, innovate and always deliver a product that goes above and beyond what is expected!
BrutallyBlunt  +   922d ago
Like coming out with the format UMD? How has slow and steady helped them in the TV division as of late? How about the portable music device, will it eventually outsell the IPod? Do you think their music store will entually overshadow ITunes too?

Such a vague statement you have there. You mention Kinect being shoved down peoples throat but where is the backing for Move? The Move is more accurate than both the Wii and Kinect but that doesn't matter if nobody supports it.
BitbyDeath  +   922d ago
LevelHead, why don't you keep a levelHead instead of hating all the time?
IHateYouFanboys  +   922d ago
"None of this DVR, augmented reality"

really? might want to do your research:

Play TV/Torne - a DVR for the PS3: http://www.sony.com.au/prod...

Wonderbook/Eye of Judgement/EyePet etc - Augmented reality: http://www.gameinformer.com...

on topic,this is all just PR talk. they wont talk about the PS4 now because it would kill PS3 sales. rest assured, the final specs for the PS4 are mere months from being nailed down, if they arent already.

if they give Microsoft another 12 month lead, Sony will be out of the console race quicker than Sega after they released the dreamcast. With Windows 8, Surface, SmartGlass, Windows Phone 8, and the new Xbox all going to be intertwined like no devices before them, Sony is going to need to launch alongside them or theyll be left in the dust.
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insomnium2  +   921d ago
@level

Kinect is indeed shoved down peoples throats. The 0.5 billion marketting campaigne made sure of that. What does Move have to do with this? What does music and TVs have to do with this?

You are not by any chance hating on Sony again just because you have a chance to do so are you...?
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kikizoo  +   921d ago
"Sony is going to need to launch alongside them or theyll be left in the dust."

yeah sure "ihateyoumyself", like this gen, with best games and hardware, you never loose (dust is for gimmicks and inferior consoles)

"It's not all about technology, if it were the PC would be taking the lions den of all gaming related sales and software.
The Wii U shows a significant leap over the Wii and that is how it should be judged in the same context."

no, pc only takes the crown again, after 5,6 years best consoles are on the market, and they don't have best exclusives...

off course technology is important, sony always has best library, so if you want to compete with them, you have to beat them on hardware (and wiiu have to compete with X720, and ps4, not wii)
BrutallyBlunt  +   920d ago
I was simply replying to the existing hate and turning it around on them. Funny how they don't like it when they see it from the other point of view.

@insomnium

Did you buy a Kinect? If not then tell me again how they are shoving it down your throat. I didn't buy one but i'm always interested in how it's progressing. If you pay little attention to the Kinect it wouldn't be so present. I purposely follow it because i'm interested. Instead you feel the need to follow the news about it, to post in articles about it to downplay it. That's the big difference. Which makes sense coming from a guy who says he put me on his ignore list only to keep responding to me. You're such a sad case.

I'm also not hating Sony, nothing could be further from the truth. I enjoy the products i own by them, what i don't like are idiots like you who are totally blinded by them and if people really want to see hate all they need to do is read what you say about Microsoft. I don't say anything that negative because unlike you i am not blinded by loyalty nor a fanboy.
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yabhero  +   922d ago
And I don't think it's goig to happen...
Is see the gap as being ps2 to Xbox like...
Patriots_Pride  +   922d ago
So Sony wants to prove to Nintendo that they can release a beast of a console that would make the Wii U look inferior and price it at $599.99

I dont think that worked out well with the PS3 vs the Wii and I think Ninty would love for Sony to repeat history.
gatormatt80  +   922d ago
Where did it say they were pricing the PS4 at $599???

"The right time to talk about new advances in hardware is when you can demonstrate a significant leap on the current experience, and something that is going to be attractive."

I believe what Sony is trying to say is show a significant leap at an affordable price.
BitbyDeath  +   922d ago
PS3 is profiting just fine and has been the best selling console for the past few years now.

Why do you think it is not working out for them?
Patriots_Pride  +   922d ago
@Gatormatt - powerful cutting edge Technology is not cheap and Sony has proven that they do not hold back on any ot there hardware look at the Vita or Bravia tv's those things are beast.

BItby -Yes Sony is profiting but they also lost a large amount of potential customers from the Wii U and 360.
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BitbyDeath  +   922d ago
Yea, but they did get other benefits out of having a higher price tag such as Blu-ray being in every box, winning over HD-DVD.

The only hardware component that may have been a bad investment would be Cell, and i guess we will have to wait and see what processor the PS4 uses to determine that.
gatormatt80  +   922d ago
Patriots_Pride, yes technology isn't cheap, but, Sony is talking in terms of a significant leap from the PS3, not the PC or anything else mind you.
Lou Ferrigno  +   921d ago
HAHA lolz @ Patriots_pride .. your a very ignorant soul man.. you start off with assumption based off of apsolutely NO knowledge whatsoever .. thats a good laugh ..

..is that your "prophecy" your sticking with?..
cuz its pretty lame.. and yes,i'm bashing your post because it was blindly ignorant and you needed to know that is all. ..good day sir :)-
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joab777  +   922d ago
What does this even mean? Don't they create the tech? I feel reassured that they are gonna make a huge leap forward but how long do we have to wait? Is he saying that it won't happen until a very powerful machine can be sold for under $500? Or r they waiting to release the next blue ray?
Awesome_Gamer  +   922d ago
Sony = Quality
Sgt_Slaughter  +   921d ago
*In their gaming department
m2stech  +   922d ago
GIANT ENEMY CRAB!
showtimefolks  +   921d ago
i believe them i just don't understand what's the hurry in getting to a ps4 or xbox720? if specs are only gonna have minor upgrades graphics/performance wise than what's the hurry?

i rather them be the last one out but atleast be good for next 8-10 years than needing another system after 4-5 years like xbox360 but stretching it out like MS has done

let's see what wii-u delivers than i would like sony and MS to be 50% more powerful than wii-u so we will actually be talking about something significant

but this is the internet age, invisible fanboys wars and when fanboys demand next gen console they are heard loud and clear
sak500  +   921d ago
LOL @common sense

Well said +bubbs

I suffered 2 broken ps2 and 2 broken 360 so why do people always highlight 360's issues?

Well significant leap would probably mean 240fps @ 2160p right since they said ps3 would be 120fps/1080. /jk

Anyway I hope next gen would be at least as big a jump as PS3 was on Ps2 and 360 was on Xbox.
insomnium2  +   921d ago
They said PS3 would SUPPORT 120fps/1080p iirc. Give me a link that says otherwise or you are just trolling with that remark.

Saying it WILL DO 120fps/1080p is in a totally different ballpark than the actual claim of SUPPORTING 120fps/1080p. But I guess none of this matters. If people WANT to hate they will hate no matter what.

OH and btw the leap between PS2--> PS3 is bigger that xbox--> X360. Just FYI.
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Imalwaysright  +   921d ago
Maybe because the 360 is without any doubt the most unreliable product ever made? How much was it? Oh yeah 47% of 360 bricking on people, nearly HALF of them sold!
metroid32  +   921d ago
Yes but it will be in say 2015 thats when you can show a significant leap and guess what Nintendo could use a 6 core version of the CPU and stick it in a WiiU 2.0 just so they can have all games run at ultra settings ect in 1080p/60fps its not hard as Nintendo have a machine that can do 1080p/60fps on most games with High settings,so no biggie to be honest just allowing Nintendo to get most gamers on their machine,and by the time PS4 hits weather it be 2013 or 2015 a WiiU 2.0 that does ultra setting effects in 1080p/60fps can easily be on shelves because thats all a more powerful console can do anyway the same games as WiiU just at higher settings END OF.

The 360 did a 2 console design the Elite and the standard the Elite did a better resolution ect Sony are trying to buy time so tech gets better and they can be this wow factor,but i don't see it i mean gamers would have been playing WiiU games at 1080p/60fps with better AA ect,a significant leap from here would be way too expensive until 2014/2015 and then guess what its too late and your Sony gamers will not wait that long when you can play starcraft and Zelda on WiiU SORRY SONY. EPIC FAIL ??
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DARK WITNESS  +   921d ago
"The 360 did a 2 console design the Elite and the standard the Elite did a better resolution"

where did you get that info from?

There is no difference between the two machines in terms of resolution. the only difference is the HD storage.

I have had both an arcade and an elite and there is no difference when you play games on them.
NobodyImportant  +   921d ago
"as Nintendo have a machine that can do 1080p/60fps on most games with High settings"

What are you talking about?

Currently ALL Nintendo first party games that have been demoed are running at 720p. And ALL of them except Mario Bros Wii U run at 30fps.
Wii Fit U has no AA!
Pikmin 3 ran at 720p 30fps at E3. Nintendo say they'll "get it up to" 60fps by the time it launches, but that is a long way from doubling the resolution up to 1080p.

The Wii U is going to be another 720p console.
Nothing wrong with that.
It will improve upon what we have with the PS3 and 360, just don't expect 1080p on your big budget games. You might get it with a couple of simple indy titles, sidescrollers etc, but COD, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect aren't going to run 1080p.

So when the PS4, 720 launch gamers won't have been used to playing in 1080p60. They'll still have been playing 720p.
units  +   922d ago
Trinity_
Future of what exactly?
TopDudeMan  +   922d ago | Well said
The future of where my money will most likely be going.
remanutd55  +   922d ago
Motorstorm as ps4 launch title = sold
HammadTheBeast  +   922d ago
I can see why...
SonyStyled  +   922d ago
i think evolution studios is outta ideas with motorstorm settings. but if they were to make a new motorstorm i would like to see a motorstorm global festival title, consisting of settings from all 4 games =sold!
remanutd55  +   922d ago
thats what i want to, Motorstorm world festival , i would love to see island, desert, arctic and even water levels, i mean imagine racing on moving boats? that would be so awesome!!!
Wizziokid  +   922d ago
I'm a fan of this tactic, I don't see a point in starting a new generation of consoles unless there is a significant leap.
If MS follow this idea or not is another story, if they don't and Sony do decide to hold off it could hurt them.

With games like The Last of Us and Beyond: two souls coming out it shows that the PS3 still does have some life yet and these games make me content to wait a little longer for some amazing new tech.

Now on The Wii U on the other hand, well like MS (I think) said they are kind of in a Generation of there own so I don't mind them bringing out the new console, I will be purchasing one myself (queue hate).
ravinash  +   921d ago
It's this part of the life cycle is where Sony investment will start to pay off.
Towards the end of the cycle it gets harder and harder to squeeze the last little bit of power out of the processor.
So while the Cell is harder to program for, there is more there so that when the 1st party companies get to work with and push it that little bit further.

Only downside of that was being harder, the 3rd parties couldn't quite keep the same standard as the easier processors.
neutralgamer19  +   922d ago
Ahhhhhhh im loving this i will buy this system day one like i did the ps3. i work hard to buy things such as these. $hit i bought a 55 inch Samsung 3d tv two years ago just to play Killzone and uncharted in 3d lol and it worked out great because i love my t.v.

Naive and gullible and wishfull thinking fanboys that think Sony who is known for upping the ante tech wise wont make the ps4 noticeably more powerful than current gen systems (yes tht includes wii u it is current gen). Ps4 may not be the leap os2 to ps3 was but it will be a beast and it wont cost as much because blu ray prices have dropped and it will be blu ray most likely.
tee_bag242  +   922d ago
You're very rude. Clearly you're on drugs and not sharing :)
Kurt Russell  +   921d ago
I have no doubt PS4 will be powerful, but I disagree with you saying the wii U is current gen. 1) it isn't even out and 2) it's clearly the successor of their current gen console the wii.
Rainstorm81  +   921d ago
Thats funny it has a ton of current gen games coming to it and they look nearly identical to their current gen PS3 and 360 brethren...

The Wii was a last gen system with motion controls and the Wii-U is a current gen system with a tablet controller....the only differences are the controllers
abzdine  +   922d ago
And i don't want to see any next gen console because for me creativity comes first and MOST developers prefer to play it safe and not create some unique games and concepts.

Next gen consoles will be capable of much better graphics but the games will be the same (FPS in 95% of the time). I'm excited for the Wii U because Nintendo doesn't look at the horsepower but mainly how games are made and i believe WiiU will prove (just as wii did to PS2 GC type of power) that there is still much to do with the actual consoles and will take current gen games a step further.
WeskerChildReborned  +   922d ago
So you want to see the same generic games over and over again? I respect the devs but i want more unique things in games.
abzdine  +   922d ago
try to look at the games that release every year it's all about sequels. The games all look like each other and all developers are copying COD because they are only eager to make profit and earn money. We are not seen as gamers anymore we are seen as $$ milking cows.

For those who disagreed with my first post if only they could say why.

Next gen we will see FIFAs, CODs, BF, HALOs... just in better graphics, the gameplay will not change.
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BABYLEG  +   922d ago
We only see sequels at the end of a consoles life. Because these has been around longer..
berndogskate  +   922d ago
if you want a glimpse into next gen have a look at todays gaming pc, if the ps4 is even on par with them i will be happy full 1080p and 60fps is a must imo
tee_bag242  +   922d ago
Yeah, What he said
Gran Touring  +   922d ago
1080p60 would be nice, but I wouldn't expect 60 frames with every game. 1080p yes, that's likely to become the standard, but I doubt developers will want to cut their visual resources in favor of making the game run faster, especially considering 30 frames is the industry standard. 60 frames are really only required for fast input/reaction games like platformers, fighting games, racing games, etc.
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HammadTheBeast  +   922d ago
60 FPS isn't a must imo. 30 FPS looks fine Battlefield 3 runs well, but it would be great to have.
himdeel  +   922d ago
I personally feel like 60 fps games should be a standard minimum in next gen consoles. As a PC person who came back to consoles seeing games run at 60 fps is pretty damn nice.
GuyManDude  +   922d ago
60fps is an absolute must for top tier games next gen. Battlefield 3 on PC with ultra settings is 1080p and 60fps, and BF3 will be 3 years old when MS/Sony drop their new consoles (assuming they come out late 2014).

With more complex processors and a 4-8x increase in memory, next gen consoles will have no problem getting that done.
neutralgamer19  +   922d ago
abzdine and Sony doesnt look at how games are made? lol hahahahahaha with power comes resources and the ability to create these innovative worlds devs try to realize. Current gen systems hold devs back at times in creating their vision so if you think that power has nothing to do with creating innovation and doesnt affect gameplay you are lost.

So many great games on ps3 i can name that have taken things to new levels........ and wasnt about just graphics but gameplay and innovation just to name a few.....

Little Big Planet
Uncharted 2
Heavy Rain
Beyond (soon to be)
Mod Nation Racers (innovated Karting games so much with its play and create and is vastly superior to Mario Kart in many ways)]
Starhawk (Build and battle makes mp insane)

All these games were able to be created because of the power of ps3 and even so many devs have still said that they wish they still had more power because their vision wasnt fully realized.
Ashunderfire86  +   922d ago
PS4 will truly be for the next generation for the core gamers. Sony never abandon their fans, that why I am picking PS4 first!!! Can't wait for the PS4 gaming montage trailer like the PS3 one back in 06.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That trailer bring back memories!!! PS4 will deliver with actual gameplay, and this time its not Cgi trailers like their E306 press conference.
yabhero  +   922d ago
I'm getting a PS3 next week and I know I'll love it, but some of you Sonyboys are crazy, you ride Sony hard lol...
Dlacy13g  +   922d ago
Sony has always been known for pushing technology with the Playstation so I would expect the PS4 to be no different. However part of what I hear/think when I see these statements from Sony is "we want to wait longer to release the PS4 if we can". I am not 100% sold that we are seeing a PS4 next E3, more likely just the announcement of it coming like they did with the PS3. 2014 will be the launch year for PS4.
sly-Famous  +   922d ago
I am all for great graphics but I when I play a game then, for me, gameplay comes first and if the graphics arent up to PC elitist standards (graphically, because we all know there is no such thing as great gamplay on PC) but is fun then I will be sold, luckly on the PS3 we have it all in the exclusives, great graphics and great gameplay, I just hope the PS4 lives up to that.
beerkeg  +   922d ago
'graphically, because we all know there is no such thing as great gamplay on PC'

You're speaking for yourself, don't make out that you're speaking for everyone. Most sensible people would realise that statement was completely false.
sly-Famous  +   921d ago
What ever helps you sleep at night bro.
TheKindRoost  +   922d ago
Until Multiplat devs actually start putting actual effort(like first party devs)into the ps3 ,then I'll be ready for the ps4. As it stands now I can only expect half ass ports for next gen.
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Ck1x  +   922d ago
As you can see Sony is blowing the biggest smoke cloud to get people to pay attention to what they are doing. High end PC's are a significant leap over PS3, so that means that they should be showing PS4 tomorrow then! I hate when company figure heads make these idiotic statements as if "Oh we'll announce and show PS4 when technology reaches the point to eclipse PS3!" Guess what, it already has so lets move on to what you actually plan on doing Sony. To be honest I think they have no clue of what to do for their next console, because all of the maket share that they lost this gen. They made ps3 a premium machine and gave it great exclusives but that still didn't keep people from purchasing a Wii or 360 though. They catered to the tech crowd by making Vita the most capable handheld on the planet right now. But yet people aren't flocking to it in droves like its the next best thing. So if anyone here really doesn't think that Sony is in total confusion right now, you might be holding on to some false dreams...
greenpowerz  +   922d ago
Great post... Every word rings true... This sounds like the same posturing we heard before PS3 launched. A select few multi platform games were the best looking this generation. Not taking away from the few PS exclusives that look good but they're mostly linear, static, painted, fixed camera design with no real complex gameplay. Sony needs to work on unified horsepower because next gen won't allow shortcuts with limited things going on, on screen and in the background with only static beauty/graphics. Next gen will be more about 8 player co-op, massive amounts of enemies on screen that have unheard of AI, with real time social apps and stuff running in the background not just "1080p" "@120fps" " will be a super computer" IF Sony isn't careful we'll have a repeat of this generation where Sony 1st party games are pretty, yet basic in design. While more complex multi plats perform better on other platforms fooling some gamers but not most in thinking the PS is more powerful.
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GamingTruth  +   922d ago
man theres just 0 truth in your wall of text
greenpowerz  +   922d ago
PS3 struggles with sandbox or more open games hense why all PS exclusives that look good have static and or linear gameplay often with painted in graphics, and the more open/sandbox PS3 exclusives fall short of mutli platform games in the same genre.
Dno  +   922d ago
infamus is one of the best looking open world games, that and assissans creed which are both on the playstation.

Your silly dude
greenpowerz  +   922d ago
AC is multi platform and has multi player but is much more simple compared to games that have more powerful engines doing so much more processing glue-ing the much more complex living breathing worlds together. The software I talk about have multi player and dozens of gameplay types. In infamous you can't jump in to a chopper and fly 1000 feet in the air after banging a hooker you hooked up with at a specific time. You can't have NPC's tell random stories how they were shot in the knee with arrow.
Less dynamic games have extra resources for static graphical trickery.

There is a reason why Sony's QTE type games are hyped to look good but create little interest among gamers, the fun and value and replay value is lacking with this approach. I returned heavy rain the day I picked it up when it first came out. Played the Heavy Rain dev's first game on xbox and didn't like it. First time I was ever exposed to Playstation style game(fixed camera/ angle from older ps games)
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dead_eye  +   922d ago
Infamous 2 can have so much going on at any one time and still looks awesome
XabiDaChosenOne  +   922d ago
@greenpowerz lol wtf? please show me a "complex" game that runs better on the 360 than it does on the PS3?
SegataShanshiro  +   922d ago
If next gen cannot do full 1080p at 60 fps then there is no hope left for gaming, they reached the max....the limit of consoles. I will become a pc games if theres no quick saves on consoles cause we are way past the point where consoles could not do it on a 8mb memory card......but also on pc the "must be online to activate or play" BS gets on my nerves...whats fonna happen 20 years from now when their servers are off and i wont be able to even install the game? Gaming is doomed...ill stay in this gen if next gen just screw us over again .
momthemeatloaf  +   922d ago
Fans won't admit it, but Sony will delay next gen as long as possible because they just cannot afford making a new console right now or take the chance to make a new one and have it flop like the Vita.

Sony is in their darkest times right now. Laying off studios, vita sinking, no attractive exclusives after last of us, and Naughty Dog will most likely go multiplat after this gen, they'd be stupid not to
dboyc310  +   922d ago
ND is OWN by Sony. The fact that you didn't know that makes me think your a fanboy kid that wants to Sony to simply disappear. They're jumping into the next gen believe me I mean why wouldnt they if playstation is theyre most profitable division? Stop being dillusional
gunnerforlife  +   922d ago
"Naughty Dog will most likely go multiplat after this gen, they'd be stupid not to" just that line shows me your talking a load of bollocks! and got no idea what ur talking about
dead_eye  +   922d ago
Or they will actually stick to the 10 year life-cycle. The way the games keep improving this maybe the case.
patriotZero  +   922d ago
e3 2013
Reborn  +   922d ago
I skim through these comments, because most are filled with overreacting posts (ones which flatter one competitor, without any clear view). However, I love reading the ones with an open mindset.

On-topic: Sony and MS need to have this idea of 'not showing it till it can do a significant leap'. Nintendo have their own base. Sort of like what Apple has. People will continue to buy the next iPhone, regardless of how small the improvement is. Nintendo know their core market will be pleased. Since now devs can launch the main multiplat content on the console, in line with 360 and PS3 (possibly beyond).
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KontryBoy706  +   922d ago
So... It DOES exist then. At least in some form.
GamingTruth  +   922d ago
according to this from sony as i thought pc with all its latest gaming hardware wouldnt provide a significant leap over the ps3, chances are they are making their own truly custom hardware get ready son, cg ingame is nothing compared to what sony has planned for next gen since ps3 already achieved that
hiredhelp  +   922d ago
WTF...
GamingTruth  +   921d ago
what, im right, your 8 pc brothers disagree but it wont change the fact that im right look at sonys highest visual achievements and look at pcs even using the latest pc gaming gpus to the max, youll see that thats nothing compared to what sony wants for the next generation in their platform
hiredhelp  +   921d ago
he he ok np so sony gonna fork out at least a mid range gpu that be mobile gpu obviously, That have compute shader of 5.0 with 2-3 gb video memory not forgetting the 8gb ram. To keep up with latest video graphics.
That what you telling me ???
Reaper9937  +   922d ago
100 percent agree Sony, time to go for broke...I will be their picking one up day1.
beerkeg  +   922d ago
Let's be honest, Sony needs to get as much back from its current investment as they can before it can move onto the next. They aren't in the position they were in when they were moving from ps2 to ps3. It's just not the right time for them at the moment.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   922d ago
Well The Last Of Us and Beyond: 2 Souls are proving to have massive stopping power on the PlayStation Sony has a lot of Staying power over the Xbox I will say that.

@TheVeryfirstcomment "PlayStation Is The Future and the future is PlayStation"

Why do people say that if its not even true? Its "gaming is the future, and the future is gaming." Not a console.
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Pana  +   922d ago
Personally if next gen games look like Star Wars 1313 i'd be happy.
andibandit  +   921d ago
personally if Battlefield on the next gen consoles dont have 64 players, im out
metroid32  +   921d ago
Starwars 1313 looks average ive seen better textures on early wiiu games not better graphics but technically better textures and lighting end of if this hits wiiu it will look better than that trailer as wiiu has a HD6770 packed inside a DX11 gpu with SM 5.0 and obviously Nintendo wont use the DX but in opengl you get better graphics out of the GPU than you would using DX11??? OpenGl has been doing tesselation for years and years now DX graphics are not as powerful as OpenGl end of. OpenGl is more scalable.
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will_c_75  +   922d ago
I think sony caved with ps3 since it came out last. With Ms having a lead and their content parity requirement, sony didn't want to put publishers in a spot, so they cut RAM. After seeing xbox getting all this paid for exclusivity, I think sony will say F it ,and beef up Ps4 to force publishers hands. I think the egos of publishers and developers would cave to sony. If nextbox just gets a COD that finally runs in native Hd, and Sony drops a very beefed up MAG 2, with bigger player count, 1080 native, 60 fps, with a frostbite type engine, you dont think that could cause a console shift?
scissor_runner  +   922d ago
The mag guys are gone and no designer wants to touch that idea, it's worst than Internet forums lol. Sony can not force any ones hands. What is scary is once the new tech is truly out and code is optimized we will see a ton of last of us clones since the graphics will be better.

Sony is staring down a barrel if ms goes for a gtx 680 gpu in the next Xbox. It won't get too much better than that. I wish em luck.
It really is weird how Sony fans hype their tech up but don't own a Sony tv or even that Sony two player 3d thing. A weird bunch, yet it's fun too see people into consoles.
Hanuman  +   922d ago
I'm sticking with MS and Nintendo, sorry..
yabhero  +   922d ago
I'm sticking with Sony and Nintendo
WiiU and PS3 for all my gaming this and next year
Maybe toss in some PC here and there
But Sony and Nitnendo have the best exclusives and between WiiU and PS3 I'll get all the multi plats
Dno  +   922d ago
whats games are you playing? lol
DARK WITNESS  +   921d ago
I am switching to the PS4, will keep my old 360 and Wii U can F-off !!
D3mons0ul  +   921d ago
Hope you like to move yo body...
BelieveinGhosts  +   922d ago
This comment from SCE is why I still believe that Sony will release the PS4 in 2015. Although I think we would all prefer an earlier release in 2014 which is also the year Microsoft is most likely to release their NextXbox.
BitbyDeath  +   922d ago
As much as i don't want to keep waiting i do approve of this.
I don't want to see crappy demos like UE4 claiming it's 'nextgen' when it's barely catching up to Crysis from 5 years ago.

Bring on the real nextgen.
Jag-T1000  +   922d ago
It's all about who is first. That's why they're in 3rd place.
DJ  +   922d ago
Dreamcast was first during its generation, and it died a year later. First out the door means nothing.
ItsMeAgain  +   922d ago
Haha, God thanks for the laugh. Needed it today.
shackdaddy  +   921d ago
No. It's all about who's most affordable...with an exception to dreamcast...
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DJ  +   922d ago
There's really no rush. Console hardware and software sales are plummeting month after month, which means this is the wrong time to put a PS4 on the market. Maybe when the economy starts to recover they can finally reveal PS4, but it has to serve two purposes. It needs to showcase a huge leap in performance AND make game development significantly cheaper. Developers are going out of business left and right because of exploding budgets.
jamesensor  +   921d ago
I second that. ;)
jetlian  +   921d ago
actually its plummeting because of a lack of newness!! When gamers see real next gen console games people will start talking and waiting. New series will be coming about and what not.

Developers are going out of business because theres to many clones. When next gen starts every game will be vying for a gta/cod level and that will take time. So you wont see as many clones at the start giving fresh ideas a chance to come forth
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