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Submitted by porgep 887d ago | opinion piece

PlayStation 4 is coming, but will Sony be ready?

PSU writes: "What you own will soon be dated.Sony and Microsoft's refusal to give the next generation of consoles even a passing mention at E3 was the loudest silence I've heard in years. Sure, plenty of games were shown by both parties, but make no mistake: the seventh generation has crossed the threshold and is waving goodbye. Is Sony ready?" (Next-Gen, Sony)

Y_5150  +   887d ago
My body is ready! RU?
SPAM-FRITTER-123  +   887d ago
i don't think sony will release a new console at all. im not sure if they have enough money for production.
Waddy101  +   887d ago
HAH! You must be delusional.
DG90  +   887d ago
Sony has had losses... But they are not poor they can & will make another console.
Fil101  +   887d ago
LMFAO
dboyc310  +   887d ago
Playstation is there profitable division why wouldn't they fallow with a successor to the ps3. I honestly can't wait to see what Next Gen will bring. Can't wait to see if PS9 becomes real /s lol
Jazz4108  +   887d ago
I think they will release a ps4 but I don't expect a powerhouse system as Sony can't afford to take the initial loses on hardware. This is MS chance to kick sony while they are down and this could get very interesting. Sony is trying to get away from the arrogant attitude they have had this gen and go back to basics as you see in there campaign we are about the gamers. I do however don't believe a word of this campaign but when a company's back is against the wall they will try anything as hearing the crap that sony has said this gen to there latest is a 360 turn around and I don't believe it. Sony is in desperate times and I don't want to see them fail I'm happy to see there arrogance and the arrogant fans of system not games get knocked on their ass. Just my opinion. To the person above me stating ps is proiftable...then why has sony erased all the money they made on ps1 and ps2 in loses on the ps3. This is common information available to anyone. I would not exactly call that a profit powerhouse. Even there latest statements show the ps division lost them 230 million alone.
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nukeitall  +   887d ago
Although I don't think Sony will quit console business, SPAM-FRITTER-123 puts forward a good point.

Sony as a company is worth less than $14 billion. An investment into a console could cost them a half a billion in losses alone from console sales, not to mention investments into operations and infrastructure the first year! That's to say 1/20 of what Sony is worth in the first year alone. Ouch!

With new president and investors hawking the turn around, any negative news will hammer that stock further so they can't afford to post huge negative financials.

Expect that investment from Sony to to be a lot less, and if they can, they will defer it to 2014 and hopefully reap some gains from the PS3, but that is under pricing pressure! PS Vita isn't exactly a success, and a price drop like Nintendo 3DS isn't possible.

Suddenly it is looking pretty blea, and Sony ain't in a sweet spot, that's for sure.
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Thecraft1989  +   887d ago
nukeital I don't know why your getting so many disagrees. I've got a massive comment history that shows I'm no anti Sony. Ps3.PC Is just my gaming preference.

Now I do think people are underestimating the problems Sony have at moment. I hope they can turn it around but there heading in really bad direction.

Also giving how many new amazing IP's they've brought out and just how they've supported the ps3 this gen I just hope they can recover, as hands down In consumer support and varying genre of games there top in market. It's sad the ones booming are the ones who ****** of the hard core market.
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nukeitall  +   887d ago
@Thecraft1989:

Disagrees don't bother me, and that doesn't change facts. It's a case of ignorance is a bliss. Not that it should matter to end-user anyhow.

Fact of the matter is, Sony is in the worst position of the three console manufacturers.

MS is full of cash, has a diversified customer base, and view Xbox as an important stepping stone to keeping the company relevant.

Nintendo albeit has a sketchy next generation plans, don't sell hardware at a loss. They will survive even if Wii U doesn't do too well. They also have 3DS to rely on, earnings from Wii and a very strong first party studios.

Sony on the other hand is on a 31-year low stock value, after inflation it is even more dismal. Their latest annual financials spelled out reduced PS3 sales from expectations even after the recent price drop. Major layoffs, huge pressure to turn the company around and watchful eyes of investors scrutinizing your spending doesn't generally result in huge investments or innovation for that matter.

Bottom line, Sony has never been in worse position.

Since you are a fan of PC games, I think PC is on an uptick to my surprise. I think cheap games, and proliferation of PCs helps a lot. The console manufacturers dragging their feet until next generation is also helping PC.
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Clarence  +   887d ago
What country are you from. There will definitely be a PS4.
WeskerChildReborned  +   887d ago
Lol do you see how much people agree with you? Now look at the disagrees. Those people who disagreed are smart.
WeskerChildReborned  +   887d ago
My body is ready to pick up a new Playstation. Hopefully has some good launch titles.
PSN_StEaLtHy85  +   887d ago
Yes! They're freakin ready!
sway_z  +   887d ago
@SPAM-FRITTER-123

C'mon dude, you gotta be kiddin' lool ;/

*Well now you've had your 5 minutes of fame..can we get some sensible comments please!
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Hicken  +   887d ago
And he'll KEEP getting another 5 minutes. Although the type of trolling he does is supposed to result in a ban, he'll be here in five, six months saying the same things. Just look at LOGICWINS and EvilDead: both can frequently be found trolling Sony articles, yet they GAIN bubbles instead of losing them. It's astounding.

On topic: I think Sony's far more ready than people give them credit for. I mean, it's not like they didn't see these losses coming months ago, and it's not like they're just gonna wait until the last second to start R&D on the PS4. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have a production cost estimate, and are trying to squirrel away some funds to lessen the blow of that price.

I mean, when you decide to do a big project around the house, do you wait until the last second before trying to scrounge up the cash and acquire all your materials, or do you do these things as far ahead of time as possible?
sway_z  +   887d ago
Hicken I'm inclined to agree with you....

As for SPAM-FRITTER-123 he clearly likes to evoke reaction, and he seems pretty effective at it.

In a weird sort of way, we need people like him....

To laugh at! ;)
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maniacmayhem  +   887d ago
@Hicken
I find it funny that you're on this new kick to drop names behind their backs. It's truly a cowardly thing to do and says a lot about who you really are.

ON TOPIC:
Why even respond to the OBVIOUS flame bait that is Spam Fritter? We all know without a doubt that sony has and WILL release PS4.

Will they be ready? How could they not. Will WE be ready? I for one have been ready for new systems to drop ever sice 2012 hit. I cant wait to see what the new system will bring to the masses.
nukeitall  +   887d ago
Problem is, even if you budget in advance it doesn't mean you can afford it. It just means you are better prepared for it.

I want that 10 million dollar home next year, doesn't mean I can afford it.

Typically a console launch of the type Sony is embarking on cost a *loss* of $100-$300 per unit. After 10 million sold the first year, you are looking a $1-3 billion in losses. On the low end, that is 1/14 of what Sony is valued for the entire company!

Does Sony even have enough cash on hand to cover that right now?

They also got the PS Vita, and the rest of the ailing electronics business. With investors scrutinizing the financials, Sony ain't got much room to do anything. Better post some good quarters soon after firing all those people.

So yeah, Sony is in the sh!thole and a huge investment on PS4 is unlikely. Sony can't even justify all the gains from PS1 and PS2 dwarfs the amount of losses from PS3. Good luck asking for cash infusion on favorable terms!

Sony is in a sheithole and there is nothing that looks bright at the moment.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   887d ago
I think it depends on when The Last OF us and Beyond: 2 Souls gets released and Sly 4. If its Holiday 2013, then expect Sony to release the PS4 in 2014. Those 3 games are Sony's Biggest releases so far.
etownthree  +   887d ago
If your right... And Sony does release in 2014.... That could be bad news.

Cause I don't see MS making any announcements for games that will get pushed into holiday 2013, reason being.... I would bet the house the next Xbox gets released holiday 2013. That would make it 8 yrs on the market.

Does Sony really want MS to get another year head start? In Nintendo 2?
archemides518  +   887d ago
dude sly 4 is not a big release, it's ok but not marquee and the gameplay shows it. let's not forget that god of war 2 was released after the ps3 came out so just because it's big doesn't mean that it has to come before the ps4. i'm sure they'll make ps3 games for a little while after the ps4 is out (in parity with the vita, like how motorstorm artic edge was a psp/ps2 title)
Yangus  +   887d ago
My money not ready.
ApolloAdams  +   887d ago
Sony release your console at $299 if true please. Thanks :)
Patriots_Pride  +   887d ago
299...what the hell kind of specs do think you can get with that price?
FarCryLover182  +   887d ago
Ps3 specs. next gen needs to be $499+
sway_z  +   887d ago
@Patriots_Pride

"299....what the hell kind of specs do think you can get with that price?"

(Made me chuckle hehe)

...but seriously it's not completely out of this world to suggest a closer price point.

Reason being, I don't believe the technological leap is going to be that significant next gen to justify a higher launch price point....maybe not $299, but PS4 certainly should not exceed $449.

$399 is good, $349 is better....but I'm not holding my breath.
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ApolloAdams  +   886d ago
It's a console since when was I expecting beast spec list and if I was they have PC for that stuff.
BuffMordecai  +   887d ago
If its above $400 it will be like a repeat of the ps3 launch.
archemides518  +   887d ago
it'll be 399
yabhero  +   887d ago
I can see them doing that...
WiiU will be around 4 times this gen( accordig to IGN) and next box will be 6... I can see ps4 so it can keep costs to 399 ish WiiU will be 299 or 349 and the NextBox of it has the specs we saw today its gonna 599 selling at 200-300 dollar loss... Sony can't do too beastly otherwise they'd have to sell at a huge loss... All three consoles next gen should have ue4, luminous and frostbite 2 running smoothly... WiiU is already confirmed to be running CryEngine 3 do the other next gen consoles definitely can...
younglj01  +   887d ago
If Playstation 4 is coming then Sony will be ready because they are making it.

Only people that won't be ready are developers that still can't create an engine that can run on the PS3.If the PC is so much better then why can't "top" PC developers that are not 1st party make decent game/port on an weaker gaming platforms(console).

So glad Sony listen too Naughty Dog,Santa Monica,Guerilla Games,Quantum Dreams,Sucker Punch,Hideo Kojima,and Insomniac Games.Until the developers that I respect comes out and say that they can not make anymore games that push the PS3 any farther then I will be ready.Too all 3rd parties studios or gaming experts that doesn't work with Sony personally can you do me an big flavor and STFU about next-gen console because you still can't push my PS3.Sony have AAA titles in every genre that are exclusive that shits on multiplatform titles.

Response too another article about EA/Frostbite 2 engine:

Too those that disagree and called me troll/stupid.Like me break thing down too you.If "Frostbite 2" engine was really built in mind.Why even develop PS3/360 games knowing that they wouldn't release too the standards that you would like?So basically you knew you was releasing half-ass games too your customers.How about working on an exclusive 360/PS3 engine before working on your PS4/720 engine?The reason PC gamers kiss BF3 ass because they got the best version while console owners got screwed on purpose.I didn't learn my lesson when I brought Bad Company 2 but I did when I brought BF3.EA or DICE will not be getting any of my money until they prove too me that the PS3 is as weak as they would like.

Trade-in BF3 for Starhawk and haven't felt bad about moving on.Had 150 hours in BF3 could have been alot better on PS3.Battlefield series is going the CoD route and BF fanboys can't even see it.Like Medal of Honor:Warfighter concept but i will not be buying because EA have screwed me too many time this-gen...

This is my opinion so disagree if you want too ;) Happy Gaming
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baodeus  +   886d ago
"If the PC is so much better then why can't "top" PC developers that are not 1st party make decent game/port on WEAKER gaming platforms(console)."

1. You just answered your own question. It is weaker than what their engine is capable off, while 1st party developers are stuck with what they have.

2. Is Sony gonna pay for 3rd party development cost? If not, why do Sony expect quality?
- are you gonna make it easy for me to develop games on it?
- Are you gonna fund for the longer development time?
- Are you gonna fund for doubling the workforce that I'll need to prioritize/optimized game exclusively for your system?
- Are you gonna give me better development tools?
- Will there be BIG pay off/TRADE off if I put extra effort into it, or it practically about the same if I didn't?
- Why should i stick my neck out for ya, when you don't do a dam thing to help me out?

3. Options:
- Are you the only one on the market or do I have other alternatives?
- Who needs who?

Those are some realistic questions that one should ask before developing a game on multiple platforms. If not, you might as well join the so many developers that goes bankrupt recently.

But with that said, I can understand your idealism as a gamer/consumer, but you just having way high expectation to a point of being unrealistic.
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younglj01  +   886d ago
I understand all of points but think about it you can create an engine that runs on next-gen console but you can't create one for WEAKER console.Wouldn't it be alot easier and cheaper for developers create an 360/PS3 engine because if I'm not mistaken both have an 45+ million fanbase.

You would easily sell 10 million copies if you would have teased an exclusive PS3/360 title.So you are willing too spend $450-$550 including game on something that haven't been tested yet.Its just strange too me that an next-gen engine is not capable of releasing an decent game on the PS3/360.We have seen the product of what could be done if developers take the time too LEARN said weaker console.

How are my expectation unrealistic when we have seen what is capable on the PS3 when you really learn the in & out on the console.Their so many 1st party AAA titles from Sony that proves alot of developers ideas can be tested this gen.
Dlacy13g  +   887d ago
I read the article... and I am not sure I see the point. Sony has a huge wealth of game IP to draw upon for the release of the PS4 whenever that comes. Uncharted and Killzone could easily be launch line up IP for the next PS4. Gran Turisimo 6 could be the flag ship launch racer. Sony will be fine when they decide to move on.
archemides518  +   887d ago
uncharted 4, killzone 4, motorstorm 4, gran turismo 6, infamous 3, littlebigplanet 3 + whatever new IP these studios are working on since NONE of them have announced anything in forever---all ps4 and many launch titles
chukamachine  +   887d ago
I'm not sure why a PS4 would cost much these days anyway.

There are plenty of excellent quad cpu's, some excellent gpu's for little cost. Ram is cheap and so is blu-ray now.

I think for $299-350 you'll get an excellent machine.
Treian  +   887d ago
Yeah. You can get the Nvidia 550 ti for $200 these days. It's a pretty standard graphics card for people on a budget.

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