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Submitted by sarydactl 340d ago | opinion piece

5 Things Next Gen Doesn't Need

With the Wii U gaining steam after E3 and rumored XBOX 720 specs spreading around, next generation consoles keep getting closer and closer to a reality. In a two-part series, we’ll write about what the next generation consoles need to keep up with the phones, tablets, and small gaming devices flooding the market—along with the things that would be detrimental to a gaming console and entirely unnecessary. Starting with the latter, here are the five things next generation consoles don’t need! (3DS, Dev, Industry, Next-Gen, PS3, Wii U, Xbox 360)

Five more things next gen doesn't need.
1. Recycled games - I don't mind sequels. I have four Assassin's Creed games. But let's make sure the sequels do SOMETHING new. Ok?

2. Overpriced DLC- DLC is fine. Just don't try to sell me a $5 map pack for $15. Or freebies for $5. Or a $20 expansion for $60. Be more reasonable with the pricing.

3. Unfinished games - Don't ship it until it's ready. I know games are complex monstrosites of code, and the inevitable issue or two will arise. Just make sure the game ships with a minimum of these issues.

4. Anything similar to the RROD - Hands up everyone who wants their new system to fail. I didn't think so. I don't care which company does it. A double digit fail rate is unacceptable.

5. Guitar Hero: ZebraHead - This one is a joke. Sort of. Stuff at the bottom of the barrel really needs to stay there. Don't pull it out and expect us to play it.
zeal0us  +   340d ago
You forgot On-disc DLC.
That's where I'd put the preorder DLC. I see your point though. I only had room for five. That would have been #6 or 7, right behind different preorder stuff at different stores.
Gaming101  +   339d ago
If people are willing to pay 5-700 bucks for an iPhone or Android, why not 500 bucks for a new console like it's been at the beginning of practically every other major console generation of the last 2 decades? Do you really want a cheap console that you can't notice any next gen difference playing? Because that's what it's going to be at 300 bucks.

People take advantage of used games - but if there are any used games restrictions I won't be buying next gen. No borrowing games or lending from friends, no renting, and you pay whatever price Sony wants you to pay for as long as they want you to pay it with no competition like their is at retail. Does anyone see what the lack of competition does to pricing? Go read an economics textbook, and wait for prices to stay high for quite some time after release.
vickers500  +   340d ago
A better example for #1 would be cod. Even though AC games are mainly rehashes, they're still good games. The same can't be said for cod.
Tachyon_Nova  +   340d ago
That is called an opinion, I happen to think CoD games are great.
SeekDev  +   340d ago
I agreed with Tachyon, but not because I think CoD games are great. I have a certain distaste for them, but it's alright for someone else to like them. People are entitled to their opinions, imo. See what I did there? :P
vickers500  +   340d ago
Never said you couldn't have your own opinion. But it is my opinion that you used a crappy example for #1 and have terrible taste in games if you consider cod games (at least anything after 4) to be great.
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solboogie  +   340d ago
Agree with points 1 thru 3 100%! OMG but point 1 is on the money! Im freaken tired of sequels they are basically just new level designs. All platforms need new IP's. Please Im so tired of the same dam formulas in games theres nothing new?
Raka  +   339d ago
6. FPS
KingofGambling  +   340d ago
reliable console.
Voxelman  +   340d ago
wait why would you NOT want reliable consoles?
KingofGambling  +   340d ago
sorry, my bad on that.
I want reliable console for next gen.
I'm looking at you Microsoft.
Jirachi  +   340d ago
Imo
1.too many fpses
2.too few rpgs
3.games with only difficulty setting
4.Multiplayer games with no online play(as long as local multiplayer exist this has no reason to be absent)
5.Shovelware(if only it would die,if only)
Relientk77  +   340d ago
#1 and 2

DEFINITELY
MrMister  +   340d ago
This was a very good article
pandehz  +   340d ago
Only one thing on my mind.

No more stereotypical games. There are hundreds this gen including latest ones.

Lets say I prefer an original angle.
avengers1978  +   340d ago
And how do you come up with something thats truely original these days, just about everything has been done if not done to death. Change a gimmick here, add this game play dynamic there, shinny up the graphics.

Just like movies, music, books, and everything else it's very difficult to keep coming up with new and original ideas. But good movies, books, games, and music still comes out.
pandehz  +   340d ago
Please re-read.

'Original ANGLE'

I know im saying it to the right ppl who know what im talking about, unfortunately u dont understand also Im pretty sure you dont know the meaning of stereotypical and its context in video games.
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black911  +   340d ago
Site didnt load on my phone. What did list say?
shackdaddy  +   340d ago
5. AR glasses (from the X720 rumor)

4. High Price (He doesn't want the console to cost over $400)

3. Mediocre Specs (He says he wants the console to push boundaries and "leave Nintendo in the dust...again")

2. Emphasis on alternative controls (basically says he just wants a controller - no Kinect, PSMove, or Wiiu screen controller)

1. Cable alternative (basically no tv on the console
or making the console into a huge hub)
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Relientk77  +   340d ago
What Next-Gen doesnt need:

more shooters/90% of games coming out are shooters
Voxelman  +   340d ago
I bet for every upcoming FPS you can name I can name 2 non FPS games that are coming. Do you accept my challenge?
HacSawJimThugin  +   340d ago
Loading screens should die with this gen also...if that isn't possible at least make them a maximum of 5 seconds. True next gen should be able to do this with ease IMO.
RevXM  +   340d ago
Then you better cough up some extra buck for every game running of a new Flash based game format.

Discs are going to be the shit and Blu-ray spinning at x12 speed gives about the same performance as a cheap HDD if Im not mistaken and as we know games installed entirely on a HDD still uses some time to load.

I bet the loading times wil be cut dramatically, because the Blu-ray drives will be way faster than what is inside Ps3 and the next gen consoles should have SSD's instead of HDD's at least as standard and primary disc's.
I know Id be disappointed if they doesnt ship with a fast (500+ MB R/W) Sata 6Gbps SSD. And ofcourse because SSD are usually not top notch when it comes to fail rates the systems must support Cloud saving for pretty much all the important stuff on there.
(but dont worry, some SSD's are in fact very reliable , I think Kingston and Intel and Plextor make reliable drives)

a 120GB SSD might be standard. A "higher" end 250GB model would do for most people, bigger drives will be very expensive at first but it wont be too long until we can afford uppgrading with a bigger one if needed. SSD gives you performance where it counts. Overall system performance and loading/streaming performance is a lot better with SSD. System, app and game performance is why SSD is needed IMO.
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Ck1x  +   340d ago
SSD would really make these next-gen consoles high priced! I know everyone wants what they want but these companies cater to the majority of their public, not the minority. The minority being the people that are willing to spend $600 for a PS4...
RevXM  +   339d ago
@Ck1x

Very true SSD would may add to the price of the systems. But it is very possible,I believe even in this economy.

Many times new systems have launched with new tech.
the first Ps1' were HIGH END cd players, Ps2 had DVD amd the emotion engine and PS3 have cell and Blu-ray.

And opposed to Blu-ray a SSD drive wouldnt be shit. I do not expect that much R&D, and experimental tech behind the next consoles and in that sense a medium size SSD is not much too ask. just like Blu-ray players, the SSD discs will become very affordable with time and a BD player was 5 times more expensive than a 250GB 500+MB R/W SSD is TODAY!
So a completely High end system with such an SSD as standard should be possible at price points from about 400$ and be profitable within 2 years time unless something really bad happens.

Initially only geeks and super fans will buy the systems I guess, but after a year or two systems sell like hot cakes given that it have enough appeal (software and or new features). and the Ps3 certianly had even if it started on 600$.

It is kind of odd though that Consoles are EXPENSIVE, but Smartphones and tablets are not lol. Something is wrong in this world.
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HacSawJimThugin  +   340d ago
With all of the disagrees, I guess some of you never played Ghost Recon FS or any other game where the loading times take a ridiculous amount of time just to Q the game up. Never mind the imminent loading as you play which totally kills immersion...all games suffer from this to a degree yet I get a gang of disagrees for stating what I think next gen should consist of. This place truly is pathetic.

I bet the majority of the disagrees belong to PS3 owners. Seeing that this entire gen you have had to mando install a lot of games before you play...I guess loading screens are seond nature to you lames. Why wouldn't you want shorter load times?
One of the Devs from Borderlands 2 stated that if he could add one thing to the game it would be a seamless world with no loading. Hopefully this day will come sooner than later.
greenlantern2814  +   339d ago
aside from the slam on ps3 owners i agree with you, who would not want shorter load times.
avengers1978  +   340d ago
just give me a fair price, good reliable online, good games, the things I don't care about 3D, motion gaming, and all in one entertainment hubs, Seriously if my gaming machine only plays amazing games I'm okay with that... I mean it is what I buy the damn things decade after decade.
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   340d ago
If AR glasses are done correctly, they could be the best things ever made! Heavy Rain, anyone?
DestinyHeroDoomlord  +   340d ago
Omly charge full price if the game is complete, if you need to make a deadline and the game is not complete by then give us a discount. More offline mp please, not everyone is online...
numonex360  +   340d ago
Shovel ware games.
Incomplete games and forced to pay extra for DLC.
Rubbish Final Fantasy/JRPG games that can not make up their mind whether they are an RPG or an action game.
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TheLyonKing  +   340d ago
For the gaming market to grow up next gen, I don't mind when games are popular but when only one kind of games sells it shows a very boring auidence and then innovation becomes to few an far between.

Yes I don't mind fps I just don't like it when every 3rd game that is released is a fps or tps.
Ck1x  +   340d ago
Saying "Not having a high price" but no "Mediocre specs" is very much a hypocrite statement to say. You can't have it both ways! The next-gen systems can't blow the WiiU away graphically but still be super affordable. You guys want these systems to have top of the line GPU's and CPU's and include massive HDD's while incorporating the next evolution of Bluray and 4gb of RAM as well. That's not a cheap console to produce no matter how you slice it
blackhammer  +   340d ago
Exploitation of consumers.
tombraiders  +   340d ago
I think the next gen consoles will be very reliable. PS3's and 360's were quite unreliable because they rushed to release. Meanwhile they have put next gen consoles into production far earlier than before. Overpriced DLC and On-Disc DLC will unfortunately remain. I expect the next Xbox in Early 2014 and the next PlayStation Late 2014 although it may launch later out of Japan. They will probably cost $350 or less.
PS3Freak  +   340d ago
100% agree!

Please, for the love of god, just give me a controller. No stupid gimmicks.
jimmins  +   340d ago
Wait. Runner beans aren't on this list. Is this guy basically saying that Next Gen needs runner beans? I mean, come on... get serious!
Roccetarius  +   340d ago
Lousy gaming journalism x5 is what next gen doesn't need.
VTKC  +   340d ago
No more dumbing down of game sequals that already exist.(Ninja Gaiden 3)

No more Capcom style DiscLockedContent. (Street Fighter X Tekken)

No more Online Passes.(Mass effct 3 Saints row 3)

NO more hardware Defects (RROD RDOD etc)
violents  +   340d ago
I would love it if i could integrate my TV services into my ps xmb. I mean it even has a tv/video services tab. I would rather pick and choose what channels i subscribe to through my ps than pay the cable company for 500 channels when i only watch like 12 of them.
SegaKnuckles86  +   340d ago
No more market saturation of Call of Duty clone shooters and shovelware soccer mom garbage. It is stupid shit like this that ruined this generation for me.
momthemeatloaf  +   339d ago
1 copycat games. Every shooter this gen is exactly the same with xp, game modes and controls. Same with other genres, they copy each other. The result is, everyone just plays the one done best (cod) and forgets about the others.

2 high priced consoles, online fees etc..with comp from mobile devices, people will not pay high prices to play on consoles.

3 preorder bonuses and premium content. This segregates the rich from the poor and segregates the community overall. Instead put in micro transactions for minor things and go back to monthly dlc so everyone can afford it and no one is segregated

4 online passes. Don't scare away customers, we need them. They may play online for free now but it could open the door for them to spend more on gaming down the road.

5 games offered cheaper digitally. Lol at Sony and ms charging 59.99 for a digitally dl game months after its release
giovonni  +   339d ago
In my opinion, video game systems have reached it's maximum potential as stand alones. This is not to say we can't be dazzled by them, but in order to go beyond this level, chances have to be taken. One thing we all have wanted out of video games was the true realism of each game. However, in order to reach that realism, what we know about video games have to be either changed or enhanced.

I love this list, but I can't help to think outside the box and say, what if number 1 changes video gaming for the better and changes how we do things on a console? I'm really interested in seeing a list that video game consoles need to change the face of gaming. I'm all for tv touch screens on a control, or a device that tracks speech and motion that add to the realism or change the norm of video games period.

Problem is a lot of us are stuck and afraid of what could come, or are so pro company they feel its a sin to try/enjoy what another company has brought to the table to change how we play. With that said I would like to see a list of five things that could change video gaming as we see it, because I damn sure dont want to see the same sony controller design on the ps4, or a brick for a system (xbox). Sorry I got off topic, but I like the list

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