Kickstarting Feminism in Games

A look at the disturbing (and disheartening) recent uptick in sexism and outright misogyny amongst gamers and the game industry.

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Tachyon_Nova1591d ago (Edited 1591d ago )

Article raises good points but lacks credibility in my eyes by drawing a few too many long bows.

For example, the developer of Tomb Raider saying that players "will “want to protect” the new version of Lara Croft, thereby implying...(Croft) somehow only functional under the protective oversight of a man." The developer is clearly trying to say here that they have developed the character so well that players will actually have a meaningful connection with her. They are definitely not saying, or even implying, that she NEEDS protecting by a man.

I also don't understand how the concept of booth babes is sexist. It is low brow in my opinion, and is obviously trying to draw men in with sex, but its not like these women are doing it against their will, and I don't think it effects anyone's opinion of women in general. I just don't get why using sex to sell things is sexist. If it worked for women (i.e half naked men), it would be done, and indeed it is done but just in different arena's and in different forms.

whydoyouask1591d ago (Edited 1591d ago )

what you described is the old double standard. A very common tactic in a females arsenal of bullshit.

Also, the reason why booth babes exist is because they work. If they didn't then they wouldn't waste their money using them.

palaeomerus1591d ago (Edited 1591d ago )

Feminism is about independence. Asking for donations is NOT about independence.

"Guys – and today, unfortunately, I am speaking to the fellas – we really need to talk.

The misogyny and the sexism that’s been slowly seeping into video games and the broader gaming lexicon – the degrading E3 advertising and the constant threats of rape on gaming message boards and on Xbox Live – it has to stop."

What if it doesn't stop? Your "good" intentions and authoritarian proclamations about where history and the culture are supposedly heading are obviously ineffectual. Your site is boring. Your point was already a cliche in 1978. Good luck with that preachy high horse stuff. Nerds don't care. Bros don't care. Stoners don't care. Weirdos don't care. Gaming shut ins with their digitically social e-pals don't care. Why should they? Promises of potential "respect" from you in exchange for shows of compliance with some fantasy about transformational moments for society just aren't worth anything. Who do they feed? Who do they help? What if SOME other people find your "enlightened" attitude and the childish litigious arrogance that goes with it disgusting, offensive, and dangerous?

How about you just learn to live with stuff you don't like or approve of like everybody else does EVERY DAY? Nobody hired you to fix gaming how you want it to be. Nobody hired you to define the new "authentic" specifications for all things male and female even in fiction and representational art. Life is about learning to live with things that bother you and challenge you and then if possible to prosper anyway. It is not about reprogramming and criminalizing everybody else just so your day is easier. I doubt everyone is as eager to check into your personal flaky Utopia as you might have hoped.

Don't like sexist games? Don't buy'em. Don't play 'em. It's not the game publishers, or the game markets problem when you are unhappy. The point of the gaming industry is not to score goody points and head pats from self appointed experts. The point is to give those who buy what they want and compete for their business. Nor are games REAL. Nor are they some subversive corrupting template for all society. We went through this with comic books in the 50's, rock and roll in the 80's D&D in the 90's, and Video games in the 2000's. It's still dumb no matter which medium ends up being the scapegoat. Fiction can be offensive and not lose its value. It does not need to be fixed and regulated to a few people's standards for the supposed good of all. Likewise almost everything is offensive to somebody.

If you can sell nonsexist games and find a strong audience for them, then great. Do it. I'm sure some people already have.

Otherwise, who cares.

Tachyon_Nova1591d ago (Edited 1591d ago )

You actually raise a good point there, how about WOMEN start showing gamers some respect. Having said that, the abuse of female gamers on message boards and over VOIP is pathetic and needs to stop. But this is entirely not linked to how females are portrayed in the gaming industry AFAIC.

mananimal1591d ago (Edited 1591d ago )


WHEN you die, & end up in hell, I know exactly what your gonna think, & I promise you, it wont be anywhere Along the lines, of all that " subjective" BS you just spewed. Your gonna find out, that in life, there is an OBJECTIVE TRUTH, that you choose to ignore. Life is about discovering what that objective standard is, & following it. Now heres something im sure youve heard before: Opinions are like __sholes, everyones got one, but the only opinion that matters is the Objective one, Gods (Yeshua, The Great I AM, Christ Jesus the Lord)

PS- I know wiseguy, your attitude when you read this will be one of "mocking" what Ive stated, an arrogant sort of pride, thats says, I dont know what im talking about, I simply say, YOU will surely get the opportunity to find out, since everyone who is born, MUST experience DEATH. Laugh now, Cry Later. Class Dismissed

Tachyon_Nova1590d ago

Hell doesn't exist though, so I think he'll be alright after all.

Also if you have a point to make, try making your comment make sense rather than going on a crazy rant, alright?

Hal0_0_EmElG1591d ago

They should make teeth the video game , that should shake things up a bit.

Nes_Daze1591d ago

The most hilarious part of this I always find, is that they're actually complaining about themselves, yet don't see it. Why do we have booth babes at E3? Because there's FEMALES that want to do it,,Why do strong woman like Rihanna feel the need to dress slutty in her videos? Bceause SHE CHOOSES to do so. It's 2012, don't get respect in the internet? Too Fing bad neither do I, live with it.

hazelamy1591d ago

what about all those female game characters going into battle with a couple of strips of cloth covering their privates while the men wear full armour?
or the women that are just there to be rescued?
or the women that are just there to appeal to some teenage boys libido?

who chose to make them like that?
almost always, the male designers of the game.

Nes_Daze1590d ago

Well then I could say look at Chloe from Uncharted, how about some of the women from Skyrim, they wear full armor just like some of the men.
Games are different because you can create a bundle of pixels, you don't need an actress, just a voice actor. If women want more respect, they need to demand it from women that have the power to influence media. You can't lead a hypocritical cause.

Flavor1591d ago

Life is sexist. Biology is sexist. Corporate America is sexist. Movies are sexist. Deal with it.

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