For people crying over Sony removing features from the PS3, most of the features added to the cost. So many people complained over the price of the PS3 so Sony cut out features to make it cheaper. The Other OS feature was taken out to make it harder on hackers so you can cry to those idiots over that one.
@Lovable if you are referring to the other OS option , then im looking at my launch 60gb box and nowhere does it say , "Other Os linux supported" And also my slim says PS2 software not supported so i dont know how you came up with that
It said it in the manual online! It was touted by high level and official executives of Sony corp.
Worse, it was forced removed from my console after I bought their console! If there was legal action or something forcing Sony's hand, I would give them a pass, but they literally stole a feature away. That is a first one for me, removal of features on hardware. F'ers!!!
The memory cards are ridiculously overpriced. Even though i had to fork out for a 16gb.
Sony care for thier consumers? think again they just a greedy coporate company like others using proprietary memory cards to elimate competition and limit consumers choice so consumers have no other CHOICE and are required to by the memory cards from sony at thier desired price. 100% win for sony 100% lose for consumers.
PS Vita without a memory card is useless you wont able to do anything with it. Even saving games you will struggle as not all games save on the game card.
There is no internal memory at all and once again not all games save on the game card. You HAVE to purchase a memory card to play your investment properly. Meaning the price is EVEN higher of the overall system which is currently higher then dedicated home consoles.
Dont bullcrap me they did it for piracy reasons. Original PSP got hacked due to vunerability of the firmware and hackers disassembled the code allowing it to run custom codes. Nothing to do with the abandoned memory stick duo crap memory card. At the end was just used to store games on it.
The DSi uses a normal microsd that can be purchased from where ever you like.
The 3DS came with a 2gb sd normal sd card and both till this day DSi software has not been hacked or the 3DS hacked. So piracy is not a excuse.
Actually they used dedicated memory cards for the same reasons that apple doesn't allow SD cards, because they want the same class memory cards for all systems so they all perform the same, however they are way over priced....they should have went the onboard memory route with the option to upgrade.
Also $250 is a fine price, the PSP was same price at launch, don't be so short sighted my friend.
The way I read it was they used proprietary memory card to help stave off piracy. But you can hate them if you want. I agree that not having internal memory is pretty f'in stupid.
That said the vita system itself is extremely good value relative to the hardware so I don't resent them for wanting to make money back on the memory cards.
You don't need anything more than a 4gb one really if you're going to buy physical copies of games.
The 4GB is still listed... might just be an error,since the link in the article looks completely different from the screenshot... also considering the fact the bundle is the same price as the base model.... the vita might be getting a price drop
That would be a steal if it did. I hope this isn't Sony being greedy and taking it back cause i hate when they take something out when they say you get it. That's like saying you get TV and it includes a remote but they take the remote out and only includes the TV cause don't you need a memory card just to play the PS vita?
That isn't Logic, telling yourself that won't make it become truth, that and I voted you off as a troll.
Other OS was removed due to the tampering of the system as it became a liability, a vulnerability. PS2 emulation was removed as it was a Lesser-desired feature that and PS2's are pretty much found in most homes, statistically am sure less than 50% of the people who bought their PS3 actually sold their PS2 in the process. It was removed so they could further reduce the cost for that 'Delicious' $299 price tag that they badly needed and then got Kevin Butler to advertise.
I hope your cold consumes you :) You seem to speak very delinquent-like when you have a cold.
As for the News story, perhaps it was an inconclusive means of saying there will be a memory card and 4GB by default was to slip in that idea, but perhaps the AC game installation file is ridiculously big so they took it off so not to confuse it when they could switch it to 8GB. Who'd care about a 4GB Bundle when the game says it take 3.0GB installation or more? Barely anyone. Best to wait to see at Launch rather to see what is the final decision.
It's pretty not, though. How expensive where those 360 hard drives when the system first came out? Or memory cards for any other system ever when they were first released?
Why do people act like this has never happened before, when in fact it happens EVERY TIME?
It shouldnt happen ever though, I wish Microsoft would let us use and HDD on a 360 and I wish Sony would let me use a SD card on my VITA, but they make A LOT of money this way because its cheap to makes the memory cards and HDD but they sell them at an inflated rate.
I remember buying a 64mb memory card for the ps2 for 69 euros...daaamn it sure looks ridiculous now, but it was a huge improvement from the 8mb memory card the ps2 had.
@Megaton Not really tho, its like that for ALL mobile devices. An 8gb ipod touch is $199 but a 32gb is what, $299? $269? Something like that. The same pricing model is used on basically all tablets and smartphones too. Everyone does this, because they can get away with it.
So Sony's competitors for the Vita are now tablets and smartphones? If I remember correctly the majority of people on this site say the exact opposite.
Sony's competitor is the 3DS and they allow cheap sd and sdhc cards of many brands, not just their own.
Why is the same old defensive tactics always used? Comparing it to another systems rip off price, especially one that is not a direct competitor doesn't justify the Vita's overpriced memory card cost at all.
Just because it happens EVERY TIME doesn't make it acceptable.
I didn't really say anything about Microsoft. What I should have said was that any company that forces proprietary add on memory, cables, etc. JUST to force you to buy THEIR stuff at a higher average price is just shady as hell and MANY companies, including Microsoft and Apple do this. I'm not acting as if it's never happened before. I'm only saying that it's wrong. No matter how you spin it in favor of your favorite company, whoever that may be, it's wrong. Always.
That's assuming that their only reason for doing so is to make you pay for their stuff at a higher price.
Given that the PSP, through the Memory Stick Pro Duo, had been hacked for quite a while at this same point in its life, I think the Vita's memory card choice makes some sense(I mean, since Sony gave that as their primary reason for creating a new memory format).
I'm not singling Microsoft or anybody else out for this; rather, I'm trying to make the point that new tech- be it memory card or otherwise- is expensive when it releases.
Are any of the consoles the same price as when they released? No: over time, as the cost of production went down, so, too, did their prices. The same goes for even things such as PC hard drives: a TB two or three years ago was about twice as much as it is now.
New tech is expensive. Bottom line. Memory formats, being software-based technology, are no exception.
Not trying to say it's not expensive. Not trying to say I wouldn't rather have a much lower price. Just trying to bring perspective to the issue. Sony claimed its proprietary memory for the Vita was done for security purposes, and it's undoubtedly done better than it would have running an SD or Pro Duo card.
Most of GAF already pointed out that the card is still listed for the EU bundle too so yeah people should at least wait until a story develops before rushing to make a story out of it.
That would be incredibly stupid. People buy the pack expect to boot it up and play the game. They do not want to come home and discover there is no memory card and therefore cant play any game on the vita.
umm are you guys blind? it says on the side BOX INCLUDES: 4gb card, vita and assassins creed. just because it doesn't have the picture doesn't mean it aint there. maybe its inside the ps vita box... or it might just be an error.. we just have to wait for sony to confirm this before every one hates on sony
u get a choice.. A bundle with a game, or one with a memory card.. either way its a sweet deal.. vita is worth the $250 alone.. & in white?! its beautiful
Sony are really shooting themselves in the foot. They should be offering more of these sets a starter kit and lowering the price, the more Vita owners will = the more money in the long run. Don't shaft everyone.
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Cough *other OS* cough, cough *4 USB drives*cough, cough * ps2 compatability* cough
Man I must be coming down with a cold!
Oh really? Please, I would love for you to give an example.
The Other OS complaint isn't valid. 2pacalypsenow already explained.
Oh.. no examples you say? Typical from an uninformed fanboy.
PS2 BC was advertised on the older fat PS3s. Not the newer models.
Other OS and PS2 BC were never advertised on the box/package either.
Worse, it was forced removed from my console after I bought their console! If there was legal action or something forcing Sony's hand, I would give them a pass, but they literally stole a feature away. That is a first one for me, removal of features on hardware. F'ers!!!
Sony care for thier consumers? think again they just a greedy coporate company like others using proprietary memory cards to elimate competition and limit consumers choice so consumers have no other CHOICE and are required to by the memory cards from sony at thier desired price. 100% win for sony 100% lose for consumers.
PS Vita without a memory card is useless you wont able to do anything with it. Even saving games you will struggle as not all games save on the game card.
There is no internal memory at all and once again not all games save on the game card. You HAVE to purchase a memory card to play your investment properly. Meaning the price is EVEN higher of the overall system which is currently higher then dedicated home consoles.
Dont bullcrap me they did it for piracy reasons. Original PSP got hacked due to vunerability of the firmware and hackers disassembled the code allowing it to run custom codes. Nothing to do with the abandoned memory stick duo crap memory card. At the end was just used to store games on it.
The DSi uses a normal microsd that can be purchased from where ever you like.
The 3DS came with a 2gb sd normal sd card and both till this day DSi software has not been hacked or the 3DS hacked. So piracy is not a excuse.
Also $250 is a fine price, the PSP was same price at launch, don't be so short sighted my friend.
As long as Sony keeps ponying up the unmatchable AAA games, I'll gladly pay a little extra for their standardized memory cards.
You don't need anything more than a 4gb one really if you're going to buy physical copies of games.
bestbuy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site...
The 4GB is still listed... might just be an error,since the link in the article looks completely different from the screenshot... also considering the fact the bundle is the same price as the base model.... the vita might be getting a price drop
That isn't Logic, telling yourself that won't make it become truth, that and I voted you off as a troll.
Other OS was removed due to the tampering of the system as it became a liability, a vulnerability. PS2 emulation was removed as it was a Lesser-desired feature that and PS2's are pretty much found in most homes, statistically am sure less than 50% of the people who bought their PS3 actually sold their PS2 in the process. It was removed so they could further reduce the cost for that 'Delicious' $299 price tag that they badly needed and then got Kevin Butler to advertise.
I hope your cold consumes you :) You seem to speak very delinquent-like when you have a cold.
As for the News story, perhaps it was an inconclusive means of saying there will be a memory card and 4GB by default was to slip in that idea, but perhaps the AC game installation file is ridiculously big so they took it off so not to confuse it when they could switch it to 8GB. Who'd care about a 4GB Bundle when the game says it take 3.0GB installation or more? Barely anyone. Best to wait to see at Launch rather to see what is the final decision.
Why do people act like this has never happened before, when in fact it happens EVERY TIME?
Not really tho, its like that for ALL mobile devices.
An 8gb ipod touch is $199 but a 32gb is what, $299? $269? Something like that.
The same pricing model is used on basically all tablets and smartphones too. Everyone does this, because they can get away with it.
Sony's competitor is the 3DS and they allow cheap sd and sdhc cards of many brands, not just their own.
Just because it happens EVERY TIME doesn't make it acceptable.
I didn't really say anything about Microsoft. What I should have said was that any company that forces proprietary add on memory, cables, etc. JUST to force you to buy THEIR stuff at a higher average price is just shady as hell and MANY companies, including Microsoft and Apple do this. I'm not acting as if it's never happened before. I'm only saying that it's wrong. No matter how you spin it in favor of your favorite company, whoever that may be, it's wrong. Always.
Given that the PSP, through the Memory Stick Pro Duo, had been hacked for quite a while at this same point in its life, I think the Vita's memory card choice makes some sense(I mean, since Sony gave that as their primary reason for creating a new memory format).
I'm not singling Microsoft or anybody else out for this; rather, I'm trying to make the point that new tech- be it memory card or otherwise- is expensive when it releases.
Are any of the consoles the same price as when they released? No: over time, as the cost of production went down, so, too, did their prices. The same goes for even things such as PC hard drives: a TB two or three years ago was about twice as much as it is now.
New tech is expensive. Bottom line. Memory formats, being software-based technology, are no exception.
Not trying to say it's not expensive. Not trying to say I wouldn't rather have a much lower price. Just trying to bring perspective to the issue. Sony claimed its proprietary memory for the Vita was done for security purposes, and it's undoubtedly done better than it would have running an SD or Pro Duo card.
1. It's probably an error on the website as it's been stated many times the mem card is in the bundle.
2. I really hate websites that take things from NeoGAF and then try to spin it into a news story when we have no proof. Bad journalism.
I don't see a problem but they better explain that on the box that the card is not included and it is necessary to play games on the PSVIta.
I don't really care because I'll get 32GB memory stick and be done with buying them.