"We have added that 2 Days 2 Vegas will appear on the Xbox 360. We have talked with Steel Monkey and it's confirmed that the title will release on both PS3 and Xbox 360 as well as PC. More details on that on Monday."
Even though PSU never said it was a PS3 exclusive, it seemed that everyone took it that way. Just so there is no miscommunication, I have updated the article and talked with the developers to confirm things for us. Turns out that 2 Days 2 Vegas will appear on the PS3, Xbox 360, and PC.
Sorry if you were misled. Last time we talked with Steel Monkey, they hadn't decided on platforms other than PC, and Edwin told us that the PS3 was the best prospect. Anyways, I guess now everyone will be able to enjoy the game except Wii owners.
More details on Monday.
does this mean that the game will have to be downgraded to fit on a DVD disk or will it be multiple disks? if so, how many disks?
really? thats not what the devs say- but im sure your smarter and have more knowledge about technical requirements than experienced devs?
WRONG!!!!!! your just an idiot who makes up his stories as he goes along
no one needs blu-ray???? MGS4, LA Noire, this game, Lost Odyssey (4 disks), FF13 and many others disagree
that's funny since i recall reviewers and industry folk saying that the ps3 version of COD4 was better than the 360 version (if only by a small fraction)
Or compressed to hell to work with the 360's amazing specs. This is bullshzt
I have a feeling like the game will be cut or possibly be multi discs. I am not 100% sure, I would have to talk with the developers. I will be releasing more details though on Monday, so stay tuned.
Odd how nearly every game released on ps3 doesn't need blu ray:) how every multiplatform game on 360 kills the ps3 version...lol its not 360 holding it back its ps3.
The developer said they couldn't fit the game data on a DVD9. And i'll leave it at that.
COD4 Better on the PS3.
Assassins Creed Better on the PS3.
Ut3 Better on the PS3
Burnout 3 Better on the PS3.
Yeah. You are so right..
don't forget DiRT and Oblivion
Sorry Blade but COD4 and Assassins Creed has already been proven better on the 360. Stop your lies.
The 360 can easily handle any game that started life on the ps3...for example, Burnout 2, and Devil May Cry are all pretty much equal to the ps3 version and others like Virtual Fighter 5 beat the ps3s version in every way. Unfortunately the ps3 has a hard time handling a port from the 360.....Orange Box, Lost Planet, and Madden for example.
show me some proof that COD4 and Assassins Creed are better on 360.
Because I've played both versions of those games and i have to say that COD4 is identical on both consoles also besides some extra glitches in the PS3 version of Assassins Creed they are identical as well.
For those six hour games! LMFAO
All of you people saying that the game will be hurt if it goes to DVD-9. This can be debated, so let's agree to disgree. But what I do not understand is why you are blaming MS or the 360? This game was said to be for PS3 and PC, hmmm most computers still have DVD-9 dvd players not blu-ray, so it was already so called "downgraded". So what does that have to do with the 360. The PC can not be blamed for something, becuase it is just as game. A game that will look spectacular on all three platforms. Stop hating and start playing!
PCs will never be the blame because they can install the multi disk games to the HDD. This wouldn't be a problem for the 360 if HDD was standard on all versions. That is why the 360 is blamed and not the PC.
It's funny to see that so many people bought the whole PS3 hype.
200 frames per second.
all games in 1080p.
game physics calculated automatically by the cell.
will destroy the 360 when it comes to graphics.
just you wait just you wait just you wait.
I have waited long enough and I haven't seen jack sh#t of the above. Think about it. If Sony had said "The PS3 is about the same as the 360, perhaps a little stronger in some areas." no one would have bought it.
Didn't this start as a 360 exclusive and then it went multi?
show us the "proof" that COD4 and Assassins Creed is better on the 360. Have you played both versions for both systems? Do you even own both the 360 and PS3?
I do and I have played both versions for both systems. There are some differences without question but I would not say either is clearly better then the other overall. Some things I like better on the 360 some on the PS3. But I'm not a over zealous fanboy looking to throw fuel on a fire just to blaze the flames and I can actually give an honest opinion unlike you and so many others that post on N4G.
It's nice to actually own both systems and have options instead of being a narrow minded childish fanboy that feels threatened everytime he hears someone he doesn't agree with.
@Sayai jin: you are not familiar with PC gaming are you? (that would likely be a "no" considering what you wrote)
PC games are INSTALLED in your HDD, PC games come with compressed installation container or cabinets what ever you wanna call them that during installation are un packed to your computer and specially in todays games fully installed games are usually bigger than the game DVD and after installation no longer need the DVD to be played
360 games don't do that, all the magic HAS to be done directly from the DVD
looks like before "not understanding" you should...read a little? familiarize with the subject you are about to expose? and they havent blamed PC games because they DONT need too
Xbox 2 Holding back the PS3 Once Agian.
Xbox 2 : please Mr.PS3 'Dont PlayBeyond US! please'
People are getting 2 games confused:
8 days a ps3 sony published title
@Charlie2688, Hmmmm, no reason to be rude I completly understand how PC gameing works in general and in depth (I have a $3500 gaming rig I built from scratch) You completly missed the point. My point I was trying to make was that the blame should not be on anyone. Saying the Xbox this or the 360 that and it's MS's fault is not legit. I say the same when people say Sony this and PS# that, especially when it's a baseless comment.
Also, it has been a know fact that games can be stored on the 360 as same as they are on comp and be rendered by the stored data on HDD. Now there are limitations, because not all 360 have HDD and with the largest HDD being 120GB there are a limited number of games one would have stored on it at one time. looks like before "not understanding" you should...read a little? familiarize with the subject you are about to expose?
Since you gave me a little advice about doing a little research and such. I have a little for you too. You assumed that I do not know about PC gaming and what I was trying to say and you know what they say about assumptions, it is the root of all .......
let me quote you:
"All of you people saying that the game will be hurt if it goes to DVD-9. This can be debated, so let's agree to disagree. But what I do not understand is why you are blaming MS or the 360? This game was said to be for PS3 and PC, hmmm most computers still have DVD-9 dvd players not blu-ray, so it was already so called "downgraded"."
I have NO idea how are you gonna spin that one (maybe you didn't express you idea correctly? but you could have clarified it when the first dude posted the same as I did...but you didnt) but based on EXACTLY what you wrote and if you do have that PC why did you posted what? makes no sense if you understand the technology involved why post "I do not understand" in the first place AGAIN makes ABSOLUTELY no sense at all, if you had stopped at "...you are blaming MS or the 360?" and then argumented SOMETHING regarding better compression on the 360s DVD9 or future use of the HDD of the 360 or even the whole "Blu ray isn't needed" its would have been a valid post but you actually used the poor argument of the people that show -1 understanding in the subject and yes its been posted 100 times the whole "but but PC uses DVD9 too!" and people have answered the same as me and those people writing like you were like "oh I didn't knew thanks"
YET again I don't understand if you are familiarized with the subject why even bother posting about it? asking about it? were you expecting someone to say "ZOMG dude you are right both the 360 and the PC use DVD9 lets ignore the fact that the PC installs it on the HDD and the 360 dosent to make your post SUPER valid and a huge hit to the unbelievers YAY!! bubbles for you sir!"
and sorry dude the whole "but but I have a trillion dollar PC" simply doesnt work anymore just ask that dude the other day that started talking trash that made absolutely no sense and was quickly massacred by people that actually knew even when he posted he had a "$6000 rig" and no I don't care about any proof from your part I almost had an ulcera the other day with the other dude so I frankly don't care anymore, you simply posted something that word by word reflected poor to no understanding in the subject and you will have to deal with it maybe that was not your intention or the point you wanted to make but there is no way to know for sure considering how so many people like that dude from the other day make up stuff once they are caught and quickly want to spin it
and no dude i am not gonna throw disagrees at you or take your bubbles even worse ignore you cuz I am simply not that kind of person in case you wanted to know I just hope that if you truly had another itention with that post that you learn to communicate better, read your post a few times before posting it, maybe clarify it as soon as you see a problem etc.
I never said anything about compression ratesof DVD-9, so if you are going to qoute me, please do so correctly.
I was simply trying to make a quick point about not blaming anyone for the game not being good. I understand computers in whole as I have a degreein Eltrical engineering and Computer Sciences. I have worked on mainframes, microcomputers, servers, etc for government agencies, companies like Lockheed, BAE systems, etc. So my range of computer knowledge goes well beyond the home PC. So when someone assumes something about that is wrong I correct them. If you did not understnd what I ws tring to say, then it is what it is, but you should not assumed that I knew nothing about PC's, especially about something as data storage of PC games on HDD"s. Telling me to research something that I have about 13 years of knowledge and experience.
The whole trillion dollar computer thing I do not get. A little exxagerated. Anyways, I have posted pics of my gaming room, yes room, that includes about $25,000 worth of goodies. Not bragging, but I remeber a guy posting pics of his setup a couple of years ago and it gav em ideas and motivation to build a nice gaming room. The PC Imentioned is only a small piece of it. I have posted links to my photobucketaccount for those people who expressed interestabout seeing it for various reason. So the whole trillion dollar computer thing sounds a little hot headed.
No need to explain to me about if you disagree or agree or ingnoring me. As I am not really into the bubble thing, I have an understanding about it though. I come into this site t see news about the industry, games etc, and fromtime to time dropa line or two. So you going on about trying to get people to agree with me or whatever youwere insuating is false. If someone leaves a comment I agree with I willhit the "Agree" nutton, but I do not hit disagree's on people, becuase people are just leaving there opinions. Oh, I do report commentthat a offensive, spam, etc.
Try posting in lower caps, becuase it does not get your point across any better when you use caps lock.
It would be nice to see a title that could use the PS3's power completely, then you get an unquestionable level of quality like Uncharted.
Now this entire game PC/PS3 will be crippled to run on the 360. I'm sorry but thats just the way it is.
Heres to The Getaway. This one is done with. After all of those comments about Bluray and not being able to do it on DVD.. they compromise everything to truncate and compress data to hell to run on the 360. YEah it sells well, but its a bottleneck for development. I'm in it for the greater games, as I dont get a dime from Sony or MS. The problem with all 360 PC games is that you can run them fine on a rather old pc. Oh well.
Here's a tissue crybaby*
*hands a dictionary to FirstKnight so he can look up the word hypocrite and a case of Puffs for when he comes face to face with reality*
wasnt metal gear solid a exclusive to the original NES then came to the ps1 to save them to beat out the Dreamcast??
How is 360 an addition when the game started life on 360 long before PS3 even had a launch date! Some f you people are ridiculous just like you followers!
Another half-assed game that could've been bigger as a PS3 exclusive. The same goes for GTAIV. Microsoft is holding everything back with their f*cking DVD9 console bullsh*t. Lets just hope it doesn't happen to L.A. Noire, I'm really sick of seeing downgraded games all because of 360.
My hype for 2 Days 2 Vegas = Gone.
yeah M$ is a b!tch and they are ruining gaming- and you are right about LA Noire, if they even try to get their corrupted hands on that one then il take a 360 and shove it up all their asses
M$ you are ruining gaming for everyone- just piss off will you, please don't ruin anymore games like what you did with DMC4 and GTA4 (both great games, but would have deeply benefited from CELL and Blu-Ray technology)
L.A. Noire is published by Sony. You guys didn't know that? One of the devs said himself that the L.A. Noire project was being funded, and of course, published by Sony themselves. That one's in the bag. Along with Rockstar's mysterious franchise which they have yet to announce any info on. But for 2D2V's sake, I'm willing to wait till Monday to see some new screens. And then Tuesday to see the tech demos. No PS3 owner in the right mind should count this one out yet. I have a feeling this game will have a lot of attention surrounding it after this week.
ok, so why dont you go play your exclusives i.e. LAIR , HEAVENLY SWORD ,WARHAWK
SOME OF THOSE EVEN USED UP OVER 20 GIGS.
360 NOT HOLDING THOSE DOWN, WHY DID THEY FAIL.
ha ha ha , you crack me up you mullet.
Heavenly Sword and Warhawk are amazing games. HS only got crap for being short, and that is actually a compliment. When I beat it after roughly 7-8 hours (over a period of time), I felt deprived. I WANTED MORE! Because it was that f'n good of a game. And I don't know where you're getting at with Warhawk. That game is insane. I'm not even gonna go anywhere else with that cause you called out the wrong game there bud. As for Lair, it was a fine game. The only thing wrong about it is that the developers screwed over anyone who wouldn't give the motion sensing a chance. I know a lot of people who play Warhawk without motion sensing (which, btw, the motion sensing is incredible. i use it everytime). The only difference is that Warhawk had the option to not use it. Lair doesn't. Which = many angry gamers. I think you need to settle down. I don't know if it's a rough childhood you've had or what, but you are taking your anger (jealousy?) out on the wrong people.
'soME OF THOSE EVEN USED UP OVER 20 GIGS.
360 NOT HOLDING THOSE DOWN, WHY DID THEY FAIL. ''
The cell and Bluray has nothing to do with Gameplay. If Gameplay sucks, its the developers fault. If heavenly sword didnt take 20 gigs, it wouldnt have the same quality it has.
If Uncharted wasnt an Exclusive it wouldve looked like sh!t. Super mario bros has a very good gameplay but it doesnt need Blu ray or the cell.
2 days to Vegas wouldve looked better if it was an exclusive, but the gameplay will not change. Thats why Liar sucked. Not because of quality, because of gameplay.
Erm, PSU didn't said it was PS3 exclusive, they said it's coming to PS3 and PC (which is truth.) and didn't mention 360.
People are also confusing this because the game has "DAYS" in the name like Eight Days, which is PS3 exclusive.
Regarding the DVD yada yada.. the fact is that in most of those games most of the textures and even objects are or procedurally generated or simply repeated .. you don't make a whole city with unique textures because it's both stupid and expensive... you bring uniqueness with dynamic generation that is smart and cheap.
The more advanced the game is, the smaller it gets.. the more "artistic" it is .. the larger it gets.
you make a good point, but you have to admit that no matter how many times games re-use textures, the 9gb cap is rapidly becoming way too small for most developers to go all-out ambitious on their games
I have many insights on the subject, but that would be offtopic and unpolite. Besides, gamers are supposed to judge by the games, there's no need to such technical discussion.
"Besides, gamers are supposed to judge by the games, there's no need to such technical discussion."
That sentence is invisible to fanboys ;)
I agree with you completely. Some good things you pointed out there. Look at the games instead of the spec-sheets.
man i love this
From the article earlier it stated Blu-Ray was the way to go. But if this game gets all compressed to hell and back, I'm going to be highly disappointed. If they are able to pull off the visuals from the released screen shots on multiple disks, maybe all is not lost. This game is visually superior to GTA4, I just hope the storyline will complete it and make it the total gaming experience the game has the potential to be.
Wow! people just love to bash the X360 for no apparent reason.
the 360 version will outscore, outsell and be outplayed on the 360;)
It's all sour grapes man. Where's the supposed PS3 exclusive now with all talk about Blu-Ray and Cell this and that. Truth is both machines do nearly the exact same damn thing. Only thing is some people bought into the PR bull just like the PS2 and it's amazing emotion engine! Let's face it both consoles are powerful and will basically run the same crap.
I haven't seen a PS3 exclusive thats miles ahead of any Xbox360 exclusive. Uncharted is great but still, not great enough to justify hating on the Xbox360.
Blu-Ray and cell are great on paper but we are yet to see real results. 2008 is the final year for Cell & blu-ray to prove itself, if it does, I will the first person to admit it, if not, you haters will look like fools.
Blu-ray already proved itself. it won. if you're talking about proving itself with games, just look at Blue Dragon. multiple DVD9 disc garbage. look at Lost Odyssey. more multiple disc trash. if Blu-ray isn't proving itself useful for games, blame 3rd party companies choosing to limit their games just because the game they're making is multiplat. i am so sick of seeing Microsoft paying to downgrade games that were supposed to be bigger.
if you want big look at oblivion. 1 dvd9. nuff said.
ALL haters look like FOOLS!
Just be happy with what you have and enjoy!
Good news for gaming in general. I understand that people want to games to stay exclusive for their respective systems. but this game was never claimed to be an exclusive. For all of you who are putting MS down for this, why? Blame the dev for this not MS. But remember devs are out to make money, so you really can't blame anyone. MS is insuring that people who buy there system get quality games, theres nothing wrong with that. People need to get used to good games going multi platform on both sides (360 and Xbox). There is just too much money for developers to make going multi platform. Another thing is that developers are going to make a game that sells and makes them maximum profit and right now turning away from the 360 is not very smart finacially. The install base is really working for MS. PS3 has some really good exclusives so I do not see this hurting them to much if at all.
READ THIS EVEN THO THIS GAME IS COMING FOR THE 360 it does not come close to GTA1V this is the master of the sand box genre 2nd is saints row 2 nothing will defeat them
It never was announced to be PC or PS3 exclusive it was said the devs were worried about DVD9 by the devs.
If MSFT... you'd obviously would wan't the game and as the developer... you'd wan't the 360 install base. This is considering the devs had ever made up their minds that Blu-ray was the only anwser.
#1 has a point but at the same time many Sony supported media(or media like SDF types) was basing theories off of the Dev concern.
Expect more suprizes as this year gets started I promise you its not going to be the way the Media and fanboys are currently predicting.
" they hadn't decided on platforms other than PC "... Yet in every PS3 website and in the PS3 community it was assumed to be comming to only the PS3 in the console market with no mention of the other platform it was on in the console market.
And we all have to suffer from it. If a game was destined to be 45 gigs, Microsoft will get it downgraded for 360 just by pulling out a paycheck. Tsk tsk.
What game is gonna be 45 gigs this gen unless crammed with cgi?
What a moron.
Kinda like how we all had to suffer after GTA4 got delayed across all platforms because of the PS3. Why are you even complaining anyways? The game doesn't have anything but some screenshots. We haven't even seen this game in motion.
MASS EFFECT, OBLIVION, GEARS OF WAR, CRACKDOWN, SAINTS ROW, bioshock, GTA4 CAN ALL FIT ON ONE DVD9 THEN THIS GAME CAN. you say ms is bad for gaming lmao. they have the best games on any next gen console. without them there would be little or no online. and hmm now that its on ms you guys dont want to play it hahaha lol. ps3 games dont sell at all. why would they develop this game for 3 years pour millions into the project and only sell 200k in america. stupid. even your best games dont sell. right now your top selling game is motorstorm. i got it and it wasnt all that great. beautiful but repetitive. quit being b***hes and uncharted was not very fun. not many exclusive ps3 games are. yet.
If it was a PC exclusive, it would be much better. The consoles will only hold the game quality back. (i guess that is where the money is)
i will get a lot of disagrees, but what the hell... it will be another sh*tty console port.
Wouldn't be suprized if MSFT's support is actually helping devs benifiting all platforms(Not Hand-helds and Wii).
Just like last gen the PS2 was where the money was and xbox owners had to make do with ports of PS2 games..
Well ps3 owners welcome to payback time..
what are you talking about? Surely you dont think that this games main platform is the 360? Do you?
LOL the ps3 exclusive list becomes shorter everyday. Soon it will be size of tanod/shmee/larry007/blademask /heyheyhey's combined d!ck size of 3"
Edit: At demo: No thanx take this instead.
if you were a game developer and microsoft walks into your office and starts waving the holiday sales figures for both hardware and especially software in your face.There is no way you wont JUMP IN as they say.
An attach rate of 7 games per console is really ridiculous.
I wanna wack that @ss honey! ;P
If ps3 gamers bought games and not movies the devs wouldnt see th need to port to 360
Anyone disagree ? give a constructive respnse
I didn't disagree with you..But in Europe,the attach rate of PS3 games is now a lot higher and catching up with the 360.
i bet nearly 50% of ps3's sold were as bluray players first and game consoles second. look at uncharted it ps3's best title didnt make top 10 sales in december. if a game will sell 500k on ps3 it will sell 1mil+ on 360. ms doesnt throw money at devs to get games they just tell them games sell on our system if you want to actually see profit make it for ours too and they will. if anything 360 is keeping this gen alive because its the only way dev companies can turn a profit.
Well, I guess you should wait another year to say PS3 gamers dont buy games. Its hardly out of its first year, come back next year at this time.
Wow is this site filled with idiocy. To the first posts.. The reason 360 ports to PS3 are better on 360 is the game is made on the 360 architecture. All of the 360's graphics processing is on the GPU, while the PS3 uses both the CELL and RSX. The RSX is barely used. And, yes, the 360's GPU is more powerful than the PS3's. Only by a fraction though. Oh, but the CELL and RSX together makes it 2x as powerful(probably more).
About the people complaining about disk space. Google the game ".debris" its in kilobyte size and yet it has graphics that could rival early PS3 and 360 games(That, or just a few steps above Wii). It's not that big of a game, but my point is that "size matters not!" Yes, Blu Ray is DEFINITELY important. DVD9 was in the 360 so that it could be more affordable, and M$ wants to get rid of the whole format war so they can let in digital distribution(which wont happen for awhile).
Damn, there are more flames than Hell in here x.x...
that bigger storage may not be needed are the types of people I wouldn't invest money with or in. Larger storage, not just blu ray, is the way forward. MS missed a trick. lets be honest with ourselves. I know you've heard it a million times but it is better to have and not need plus the cost of the games is around about the same AND the cost of the two consoles in question is very close so there is no reason to talk crap about evil sony using blu ray as a trojan horse...
try this saying
Two birds, One stone
game on people and on this evidence we all will (except the wii dudes)
The reason why the 360 did not lunch with a next gen storage medium was because HD-DVD and BLUE-RAY had not been finalized.For the 360 to have had one would have resulted in a delayed lunch and a much higher retail price than it had at lunch, which would have had a big impact on sales.
Were Microsoft messed up was the lack of a standard hard drive for all 360's but you cant really blame them that much because the original XBOX had few games that utilized that feature.But as games become more complex a standard hard drive would be better,so i pray they scrap the Arcade skew soon since its only around 10percent of 360 owners that own onw without a hard drive.
As for the closeness in price between the 360 and PS3.You know that Sony is making alot of losses from the PS3 were as Microsoft is making money from every hardware sold.When the PS3 becomes to much of a threat then expect a price drop that would put them back into a loss.
the price thing was was talking about was the price consumers have to pay not what sony loses but your right about the standard hdd. Bigger storage should of been part of any self proclaimed next gen consoles design not an afterthought. MS proved that the little step up from the ps2's dvd to their original xbox's dvd9 that a jump up in media size was not only expensive and questioned but ultimately justified. On that occasion they thought ahead. Compression tricks and what not can only do so much.
It does provide a challenge to devs and everybody likes a challenge (except that Gabe Newell dude) but I honestly feel that this gen would have been better had the other next gen machine had both standard hdd and any form of larger media. Im at the point where i can see that devs, who are all here to make profit, would lessen their creations in order to make sure the games could fit on a 8+ year old media. Thats their prerogative to be fair but it doesn't mean that ps3 owners shouldnt speculate on what could possibly a factor that may be holding back multi platform games (without flame)
your right.They did announce at last year that MMO game developers can utilize the hard drive if they so desire.
One thing i was wondering was that if DMC4 on the PS3 has the option of installing it on the hard drive 1st,why cant 360 have that option for those that have the hard drive.after all 5gig on all 360 hard drives are for the option of data caching.
Anyway i hope the game turns out very well for all to enjoy.