Lollipop Chainsaw's four-hour runtime is not a problem, guys
Digitally Downloaded writes: "So, it’s been revealed that Lollipop Chainsaw is “only” four hours long. And, predictably there’s been Twitter chatter about how much of a “ripoff” it is for a 4-hour long game to cost $60."
(Lollipop Chainsaw, PS3, Xbox 360)
there's definitely a problem with a game that cost $60 and being four hours long. story isnt really that deep, re-playability is purely for higher scores, since the unlocks are pointless (unless youre into polygon girls wearing skimpy outfits). It also does nothing better or new compared to what is already out there in the genre by other games. I can by a game like Burn Zombie Burn or L4D and get a bigger bang for my buck at a cheaper price. Suda51 just use the 'sex appeal' to sell a game they knew is lacking compared to others. hopefully it bombs sales wise and other devs dont try to pull this crap DLC as full retail for $60.
I hope it doesn't bomb sales wise. Aside from this game Suda51 has some of the best most different games out there and I'd really like to keep seeing his games. I also don't know how much Suda had to do with the character choice. James Gunn wrote the story and chose the character so you might want to blame him instead. He made the movie slither if you didn't know.
It looks like garbage but with a half decent combat system it'll at least live up to everyones low expectations. I for one am looking forward to it, nice to have a game that doesn't take itself so seriously.
People will of course defend it, though, since they're already fapping to screenshots. If 13-year-old boys can fap to it, at least 40% of N4G will automatically defend it.
BAW-baw-BAWT you hazn't played it, yet!!! http://www.youtube.com/watc... ....as if I need to play it to realize how boring this is. I didn't start playing games yesterday. I know mundane gameplay mechanics when I see them.
Four hours is fine considering this game sucks. I know Suda51 faboys/girls will rag on me but that's the harsh truth. U$D 60 is not fine however. If anything, this should be maxed at U$D 15.
It's called Common sense. A four hour game about a blonde cheerleader chainsawing zombies, for the sake of her body-less boyfriend. Yeah...sure to be GOTY.
@fastNslowww - look up "grindhouse cinema." Suda is into making games that are deliberately B-grade. In his case it's because, like Tarantio and Rodriguez, it amuses him.
I played many games like this on my idevices. one which comes very close to this is Daisy Mae's Alien Buffet. Its pretty much the same premise, hot chick, in skimpy outfits you can unlock, killing aliens. Its like 2-4 hours long and after a while you are pretty much just replaying levels for higher scores. The only difference is Diasy Mae's Alien Buffet is like 2 bucks, Lollipop chainsaw is $60? if i was a kid maybe i would be all into it but at my age i got bored of it after like 30 or less mins, as getting higher scores and unlocking skimpy outfits isnt much of an incentive for me.
@matt Suda51 just makes crappy games in general and sell them through sex. really the best they can include in their other game was a mode to see the polygon female characters naked?
Matt you really think lollipop chainsaw is artistic? Dude in movies it might work, but in video games it does not, especially if you're using it to substitute for what it is missing/lacking of whether its gameplay, story, replayability, orginality, innovation etc..
By the way. They use "sex" in grindhouse movies because grindhouse movies usually suck arse.
@killerhog: once again, look up "Grindhouse Cinema." Sexploitation is a part of the genre.
Gamers all like to claim that games are art and everything, but the moment something isn't completely obvious - the minute a game is a homage to an old style of cinema, the moment a game breaks with convention, the moment a game brings themes from outside the game - the moment a game does anything artistic, then people criticise it.
You want games to be art? Well, if someone makes a game that is a homage to Grindhouse Cinema, then at least learn something about Grindhouse before you criticise it for being Grindhouse.
Edit: and "by the way" anyone who takes a Grindhouse film (or game) seriously is so completely missing the point. Grab a beer and relax. They're braindead fun. And that's not a bad thing :)
Just because it pays homage to grindhouse movies doesn't mean it will be a good game, a game can be artistic , unique , and offer tons of replay value and have more than 4 hours of gameplay.
This game is trying to emulate B list grindhouse movies, and it will be considered a b-list game.
A game can offer all the things u mentioned and be longer than 4 hours, i think thats a lame excuse and with this game being 60$, it deserves criticisms
@Raiinstorm - I don't see why the length has anything to do with anything. If it offers what it set out to offer (a couple of hours of throwaway fun... just like Grindhouse cinema), then $60 isn't so bad.
I don't mind paying $15/ hour if I'm being entertained.
Next, paying homage is fine, but stop thinking it's an excuse for being bad. Additionally it's quite sad to hear all this effort went into everything, but what I saw of the ACTUAL game. Press got a fancy edition, I remember reading several times about the models FOR the game, but I VERY rarely remember reading anything that ACTUALLY matters for the game.
Finally @ MattS
Art is a controversial subject. Many great artist were hated in their day and many fantastic pieces were seen as bad over something like subject matter. With this being said, people need to stop writing off problems with excuses. From what I've seen, the homage feels rather weak as those movies were usually quite gritty / missing pieces. I suppose that could explain the play time (haha), but seriously taking a few concepts doesn't mask problems with somethings core.
It wouldn't be a problem if the game wasn't 60 dollars. I've said it before, i will always say it, collecting crap doesn't extend the life of a dang game......its just a boring chore that gets in the way of a trophy half the time.
It really doesn't matter how long it is, since the majority of people who are going to play this game will be paying attention to the half naked video game character rather than pay attention to length of the games play-through.
People complain about the price of games this gen and the shortness of the call of duty campaigns. Yet because it has skimpy outfits it gets a free pass?
C) It had crazy mad replayability (new costumes, levels play out differently, new weapons, MP exc)
Game sounds like crap imo. The type of game that sells to prepubescent boys because theres a slutty cheerleader and violence/zombies.
BUT....
The commercial made it look damn fun though so maybe i have some preconcieved notions about it. Still not something id really buy but i would check it out sometime for dirt cheap or a rental. Suda is the shit and im glad theres someone making wacky and crazy games. Mindless fun can be great.
"On a purely numbers basis, that still works out to be cheaper than going to the cinema to see two (two-hour) movies. " Wow, I actually think I've found someone who's math skills are worse than mine.
For all of you talking about how Suda51 is selling this game with sex should probably know that he didn't write the story or choose the character. James Gunn wrote the story and chose the character and for those of you who don't know he made the movie slither. Aside from that though I ordered mine from amazon for $40 and am looking forward to it. There are only a few devs aside from the big ones that i'll support and one of them is Suda51. His games are always different and I personally find them all fun.
You do know about Amazon's pre-order guarantees right?
Whenever you pre-order a game from Amazon you get the lowest price they list up to release. So even if you pre-order at say $54, if the price is $45 by release Amazon only charges you $45 or refunds the difference if you were already charged. I've had this happen MANY times with my Amazon pre-orders.
Of course it isn't. Certainly not to me. And quite frankly, I much rather play this than some game that takes needlessly forever to finish. Besides, I don't really care for RPG's or open-world games like that.
LOL @ the negative comments about it try to be all objective. It's 2012 and these people still haven't got a clue that what they might consider trash could be considered great to someone else. With that said, Lollipop Chainsaw had flaws but was nonetheless solid.
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BAW-baw-BAWT you hazn't played it, yet!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
....as if I need to play it to realize how boring this is.
I didn't start playing games yesterday. I know mundane gameplay mechanics when I see them.
@matt
Suda51 just makes crappy games in general and sell them through sex. really the best they can include in their other game was a mode to see the polygon female characters naked?
Matt you really think lollipop chainsaw is artistic? Dude in movies it might work, but in video games it does not, especially if you're using it to substitute for what it is missing/lacking of whether its gameplay, story, replayability, orginality, innovation etc..
By the way. They use "sex" in grindhouse movies because grindhouse movies usually suck arse.
Gamers all like to claim that games are art and everything, but the moment something isn't completely obvious - the minute a game is a homage to an old style of cinema, the moment a game breaks with convention, the moment a game brings themes from outside the game - the moment a game does anything artistic, then people criticise it.
You want games to be art? Well, if someone makes a game that is a homage to Grindhouse Cinema, then at least learn something about Grindhouse before you criticise it for being Grindhouse.
Edit: and "by the way" anyone who takes a Grindhouse film (or game) seriously is so completely missing the point. Grab a beer and relax. They're braindead fun. And that's not a bad thing :)
Just because it pays homage to grindhouse movies doesn't mean it will be a good game, a game can be artistic , unique , and offer tons of replay value and have more than 4 hours of gameplay.
This game is trying to emulate B list grindhouse movies, and it will be considered a b-list game.
A game can offer all the things u mentioned and be longer than 4 hours, i think thats a lame excuse and with this game being 60$, it deserves criticisms
I don't mind paying $15/ hour if I'm being entertained.
For starters most retailers dropped Lollipop Chainsaw to 4X dollars.
Amazon ( http://www.amazon.com/Lolli... - 45
TRU ( http://www.toysrus.com/sear... put in cart) - 45
etc
Next, paying homage is fine, but stop thinking it's an excuse for being bad. Additionally it's quite sad to hear all this effort went into everything, but what I saw of the ACTUAL game. Press got a fancy edition, I remember reading several times about the models FOR the game, but I VERY rarely remember reading anything that ACTUALLY matters for the game.
Finally @ MattS
Art is a controversial subject. Many great artist were hated in their day and many fantastic pieces were seen as bad over something like subject matter. With this being said, people need to stop writing off problems with excuses. From what I've seen, the homage feels rather weak as those movies were usually quite gritty / missing pieces. I suppose that could explain the play time (haha), but seriously taking a few concepts doesn't mask problems with somethings core.
you can see real naked anything (real/digital) online for free.
you have to be REAL desperate in paying $60 to see cyber sexy Wendy web walkin' in the nude.
A) It was the best damn 4 hours ever
B) It was a 15-20 dollar downloadable title
C) It had crazy mad replayability (new costumes, levels play out differently, new weapons, MP exc)
Game sounds like crap imo. The type of game that sells to prepubescent boys because theres a slutty cheerleader and violence/zombies.
BUT....
The commercial made it look damn fun though so maybe i have some preconcieved notions about it. Still not something id really buy but i would check it out sometime for dirt cheap or a rental. Suda is the shit and im glad theres someone making wacky and crazy games. Mindless fun can be great.
Wow, I actually think I've found someone who's math skills are worse than mine.
Lol. To each their own
Whenever you pre-order a game from Amazon you get the lowest price they list up to release. So even if you pre-order at say $54, if the price is $45 by release Amazon only charges you $45 or refunds the difference if you were already charged. I've had this happen MANY times with my Amazon pre-orders.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/he...
LOL @ the negative comments about it try to be all objective. It's 2012 and these people still haven't got a clue that what they might consider trash could be considered great to someone else. With that said, Lollipop Chainsaw had flaws but was nonetheless solid.