Apple revealed its new next-gen MacBook Pro laptops at the WWDC keynote today, showing off Diablo III to demonstrate the machine's powerful new Retina Display.
My windows desktop makes games gorgeous for years and is cheaper than a shitbook
$2,199........Kiss my Asterik! That's more than my desktop and a 100 times less powerful.
They must be running never before seen hardware, because last time I checked, they used intel and most common hardware in the market... what morons lol but apple cultists will truly pursue any illusion they throw at them.
But if Apple say "It will Make Video Games Look Gorgeous" this must be true and it must be worth the money. I do find it funny they way people still think mac hardware is 100 times better because it costs more yet if they knew what was inside they would see if mas a mid range laptop.
mac hardware is definitely not better but the software is more stable coming from Windows for 11 years, just started using OS X 2 years ago
@princejb134 Ide have to disagree. I work in IT and we support around 50 macs and thousands of PC's and in general the mac users have more problems than the Windows users. We have more support calls for windows pc's but 9 times out of 10 it is a user who has not got a clue how to use a pc and it is not the pc that has a fault but lack of user knowledge where our mac users know how to use them but have more problems with the macs/software than our windows users.
to each its own mcstorm I'm talking about in my experience at least I've had several issues with my windows pc and so far none with the mac hope it stays that way
@mcstorm are they running a virtual desktop (like vmfusion) because I notice this can create some problems. Otherwise I find Macs are more stable than PC.
bragging that your desktop is more powerful than a 0.71 inch laptop? nice! you must be a very manly person! seriously though, the article is about the display and not the components. I don't think many people are playing diablo on a screen with 220 ppi laptop or desktop.
Nor will anyone with this laptop, it doesn't have capable hardware to play Diablo at that resolution with similar settimgs, while I welcome higher ppi, you'll need significantly better hardware to take advantage if it, something apple always skimps on, misleading the consumer (aka sheep)
I can play games on my phone with a ppi of 342 but it doesn't make it any better than playing them on my Tablet or my Moniter or my HDTV.... But I have no doubt the the general public at large will suck it up as they do the iPhone and iPad (year on year)... a very sad state of affairs imo! Advertising vs Actual specs.
Diablo 3 doesn't even require a very modern PC.
i dnt bash mac because your paying for the hardware also, aint much that outlast a mac.
PC's outlast Macs all the time. This is 2012. A PC is just as secure as a Mac...and it's running the same hardware.
Actually you're paying for the Software and OS, which I must say are much more intuitive, and overall better than PC, but not $1,000+ better.
Of course they showed Diablo. How many other games actually run on Mac OS?
lol so much hate for apple in this article. seriously mac has quite a few games now, there really isn't much to complain about. I can play most "pc exclusives" on my mac, all valve and blizzard games are available and most indies are for windows, mac and linux.
Cool, how about BF3? Max Payne 3? Batman: Arkham City? Crysis (1 or 2)? Mass Effect? Generally, how about anything that's not Valve or Blizzard, who release games every 2 years or so, and throwaway indie titles? And don't say "I'll just use bootcamp for those", because now you're just using Windows, which really defeats the purpose of having a Mac and you could've gotten a Windows machine with more bells, whistles and power for a lot less. It's not that there's anything terribly wrong with Macs (besides the obvious over-pricing and branding), they're great for video/photo editing and music, and have a fairly nice OS experience. But do NOT try to argue that Macs are good for games. They're just not. In reality, no notebook/laptop computer truly is. This may improve in time, but until they develop a DX type API like MS, don't hold your breath.
I love Apple products. I'm typing this on an older macbook pro right now.
lol, you were just looking for disagrees on that one
I have at least 10 computers in the house and the flakiest by far is my 3 year old mac book pro. Glad I didnt pay for it. I have Toshiba and Sony laptops that are 7+ years old that still work perfectly.
A tech show on my local TV channel recently reviewed Diablo 3. I was kinda excited since the show have primarily reviewed console games during its 2 years of air time and I'm interested to see how they treat PC gaming. Then...I saw the reviewer talked excitedly about the pros and cons of Diablo 3...with an Apple laptop smack right in front of him. After all these years I've been waiting for the show to review a PC game for a change and when they FINALLY reviewed one (the biggest PC game at that), they used an Apple laptop. Apparently they feel they need to show the audience that Diablo 3 can be played on any low spec machine, including that Apple laptop.
cool, one problem.... its a mac.
your telling me i can buy a $400 dollar laptop and it will last just as long as a macbook pro?? NEVER the pc will have heat issue, charger port issue, lcd issue way before a macbook.
my mac has heat issues though... still people that still think it's the 80 and that you're paying 10 times the price for half the hardware are just uninformed windows fanboys(seriously who wants to be that?) I'll admit that apple products are more expensive though. for anyone disagreeing please show me a more powerful, cheaper pc laptop that would roughly be the same size
You never burnt your lap using a macbook pro? Them things get HOT.
You're comparing a consumer grade laptop with a macbook pro, of course the build quality will be lower. Try comparing some business class laptops and you find similar build quality at a much lower price than a Mac. They won't be $400 but will still be cheaper than a mac.
Lemme match up My Alienware m15x laptop at £1520 is better than my friends £2100+ Mac book pro Hes got core2duo, mines i7 quad core He's got 4gb ram, mines 8gb with higher speed ram His gpu is 9500m or something i got a gtx460m in mine also my screen is 1080p and way clearer than his Beat that mac
you sir are clearly misinformed.... there goes the reality distortion field again... lol
Can build a way better PC then what apple can make.
you build laptops? if so are they thinner and do they have a better battery life than the new macbook pro?
I said PC, who wants to game on a laptop anyway.
silly people... Macbook Pro´s arent bought for playing games... dont compare a "Work Horse" to a "Pony". One is for productivity and other is for wasting time on rides. Think people wtf... Want games? Buy a console or a 3000$ PC, the later with allow you to play top RES all maxed out games... for 3 months... then it´s obsolescence. A $2500 Macbook Pro will pay for itself if you know that you are doing... workwise. I have a two year old $2800 Macbook Pro 17´´, it´s paid for itself more than 4 times over (working)... do I play games on it? Sporadically... never bought it with that intention in mind thou... clearly.
Yes but this is a gaming site, so we are obviously going to concentrate on what it can do gaming-wise. And especially with an article with a title like this - 'Apple’s Next-Gen MacBook Pro Will Make Video Games Look Gorgeous—If You Can Afford It' So your talk of what it can do with work is irrelevant in the discussion of this article. Also - 'Buy a console or a 3000$ PC, the later with allow you to play top RES all maxed out games... for 3 months... then it´s obsolescence. ' Which is just completely false. If you'd paid out for a $3000 pc, which would be foolish anyway as powerful pcs are pretty cheap nowadays, that pc would last for ages. And when it did get a bit old you could upgrade the graphics card, which would give it another couple of years life. Something you couldn't do with this laptop.
It's funny how people think mac os helps productivity, I find the UI to be the worst of any current os. Any version of windows, linux or unix has a more efficient UI. Mac os seems to be designed to slow you down. I've been a programmer for almost 30 years and use a mac book pro almost every day and the UI just feels clunky compared to windows, linux or Solaris.
Same. I like to keep my hands on the keyboard. Try that with a Mac (and don't give me gestures with the touch - not needed those is the way to go). Obviously, this is from a developer perspective, not from someone who edits videos/photos a lot.
I bought my latest gaming PC two years ago for 1800 dollars and it still plays every game on max settings in 1080p (though some of them can't have anti-aliasing enabled, like Metro 2033, without chugging). So 3000 dollars and then 3 months to obsolete is a huge exaggeration, my friend.
I love how apple products have insane resolution support yet almost nothing but the OS and pictures to utilize it.
As a long time PC user recently converted to Apple... It's a big No to gaming... but a Yes to everything else. For day to day use the Apple combination of hardware, software, services and integration is far better than anything I experienced on PC. I can absolutely see why iPads and iPhones are gaining so much traction in business. But for gaming.. the lack of AAA titles, and a focus on mobile GPU's in most of their products really hinders things.
Out of interest I looked at what it would cost to buy one of these. These are the specs I chose - MacBook Pro 15-inch with Retina display 2.7GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM 768GB Flash Storage NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory I left all the other options as none, meaning the price would be even more with adding them all. The price as it was? £3,048.98 Now to me that seems very expensive. If people want to pay out that kind of money for something that will be obsolete within a few years then that's up to them, who am I to judge. But I bet I could find something similar, with the obvious omission of the display, for at least half the price if I wanted to.
That´s all fine and well but... what do you want the laptop for? What will you do with it?
I don't care I have an amazing PC I built I love it but I would also love to own one of these.
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