The PS3 has so many games coming that Sony couldn’t even fit them all into their E3 conference, says Scott Rohde, and that’s why there was no mention of the PlayStation 4, though development on titles for the next-gen platform is already underway.
1. You guys could have skipped 7/8ths of the Wonderbook presentation and showed more games. 2. I would have liked the hear about the PS4 at E3 but its all good, I think we'll hear about it sooner than later.
Next e3 they will
I wish I could extract information from is head. That is kinda weird to say though huh?
LOL ya it's weird but nice idea though, just like Watch Dogs, I manage to hack his head and extract all the next-gen information XD
I'm almost certaian they will reveal it in the upcoming TGS.
I absolutely love my PS3 and 360 but to be honest, the 6-7 years old hardware is starting to show its age in an ugly way. See, that WATCH DOGS game, it looks amazing and I dead sure that the footage was from PC version of the game and can never get them king of graphics on our consoles. Similarly, compare BF3 on PC and then on consoles, the difference is huge. I know that there will always be a difference between PC/Consoles but that gap is looking bigger than ever before and we need new hardware to see even more exciting stuff! Imagine, THE LAST OF US, UNCHARTED, BEYOND, WATCH DOGS and Assassins Creed running on PS4!!! *dreams away*
Maybe the same date they first announced the Vita, back when it was the "NGP".
@zeeshan Its not hard to see why they arent annoucing a PS4 or a next Xbox, both of them want to be holding the industry back. While they rake in profits. Next gen when PS4 is out, you will be saying the same thing again very shortly, hell when current consoles were released they were using mid range pc hardware, the next consoles are rumored to use low end pc hardware just so MS and Sony can profit day one. Hence next gen will probably start with consoles lagging behind by a fair margin. Crysis was released back in 2007 just a year after the consoles, it still pretty much blows anything the consoles can do out the water and thats not with todays modern hardware. It would do the same running on a 8800GTX. So yea you can hope the next consoles close the gap, but the truth is thats not gonna happen.
“It was just something we didn’t feel was important to bring up this year” He indirectly said they will announce it next E3 or an event next year. No news on PS4 from Sony at all in 2012.
I think they will hold there own conference for ps4 like they did with ps vita.
Wait, they held a conference just for the Vita?! When was this?! And where the heck was I?!? =0
I think snake means when they announced it
I think the safe bet would be to guestimate the announcement for ps4 and next xbox to be after their last big game release to ensure sales for their big title(s) dont get affected e.g after last of us, after Halo4, after Forza Horizon etc The brilliance in all of this is how Sony and MS will counter the WiiU with next gen tech and what deal Sony and MS will make between them if MS choose to go with BluRay. Halo selling 8million copies would then be good for Sony too! Does this mean they may trade tech e.g Skype. Either way, next gen isnt far off imo. There was no Killzone4, Forza5, GT6, GoW4 and it seems like all major games are to be released before xmas holiday season next year.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO NEED for a PS4 console to come out within the next few years!
I think both MS and Sony have to show them next year
They're saying that the PS3 still has life in it, and that's evident based on that footage of Beyond and Last of Us. Also, Sony is having some pretty major financial issues right now with their stocks plummeting. I think they're going to want to ride on the PS3 at least another year or two before even discussing PS4 in my opinion. They simply don't have the resources right now to be pumping out a huge new system. (We all know Sony, it's going to be really powerful and expensive. Which means it would be costly for them to manufacture it as well.)
Before even discussing? Not sure if you are serious. Everyone knows new consoles are coming next E3. Look at 1313, Watch Dogs and newest engines from Epic and Square Enix. They know its coming and they are gearing up. 1st party studios, GG, SSM and MS Vancouver have been hiring stuff for next gen for a year now. If they don't even think about discussing it like you said, they are better without gaming than because it will be far to late. No body is going to wait for anyone of them to come up with their system if they are far to late. Nextbox and PS4 are going to get announced next year, there is no doubt about that.
Yep, Unreal Engines tend to be demo'd about 1 year before new platforms are announced. Epic have stated that new Unreal Engines don't become so until the next generation of consoles are upon us. eg. UE3 Unveiling: March 2004, X360 Unveiling: May 2005 UE4 is to be unveiled tomorrow.
Sorry, I didn't mean it like that lol! I actually meant before revealing anything to the public. I'm sure they're already working on it, there's no doubt there. It's just that they wouldn't want to start manufacturing anything right now because of the issues they're facing at the moment.
Those games are coming THIS generation on the PS3 and XBOX 360. If anything it shows that this generation is going to continue on for a couple more years. Personally, as I saw BEYOND and THE LAST OF US........I'm totally good with that. Just sayin.
@persistantthug Yeah, but I think when they announced the Watch Dogs platforms, they said it will be on the ps3, 360, and pc "SO FAR". Which implies that Watch Dogs may be coming to ps4, 720.
something way more than it is...... dude, that's officially dragging yourself into the realm of "HOPES & DREAMS", and you really should stop doing that to yourself. "SO FAR" could mean anything, vickers500. How about MAC? How about smartphones? HOW about a tablet? HOW ABOUT A WII U? How about VITA? All those are FAAAAARRRR more likely than the inference-scenereo you're trying to derive out of a "SO FAR" little comment. Like I said...."HOPES & DREAMS"......stop doing this to yourself bro.
"dude, that's officially dragging yourself into the realm of "HOPES & DREAMS"" And you're dragging yourself into the realm of denial, when there are tons of signs that point to next gen coming pretty soon (or at least an announcement). Every E3 Sony always brings their A game, they're constantly announcing game after game, new ones I might add, not already announced games. Yet at this E3, we see only like 2 or 3 new game announcements, one of them being an actual big and serious game (Beyond). I'm not saying it's a confirmation at all, but it's definitely yet another sign that the next gen is coming. As for your message, yeah, we have some nice stuff coming, but it's nowhere near as nice as it used to be. Console games have reached their apex. There is nothing left that a console can do to really WOW us like we saw with games such as Killzone or Uncharted 2. This gen has lasted long enough, and I'm ready for better and superior hardware to arrive, because as good as games are right now, they're becoming stagnant and stale in terms of unique experiences.
"Look at 1313, Watch Dogs and newest engines from Epic and Square Enix" What about them? 1313 would have no problem playing on a console, granted it wouldn't be playing on the 680GTX or whatever they showed it on. The gameplay was the crashing ship with only two foreground objects (player and ship) and some debris and some indoor narrow corridor shooting. Just because they show a demo playing on a veritable supercomputer with the effects and textures on ultra-high, doesn't mean that it couldn't run on consoles on realistic settings. I guess you let Geoff's paid enthusiasm get to you, huh?
Shaman you obviously dont understand the financial risks of even exposing that they plan to release a PS4 within the next 2 years. There is a reason MS didnt do it and there is a reason that the Wii sales have plumit after the announcement of the Wii-U.
Well the Wii sales where already plummeting before the announcement, but announcing the Wii U so far ahead of it's release certainly didn't help matters.
I don't mind. With games like The Last Of Us, God of War: Ascension, Beyond and All-star Battle Royal and so many other great games coming out, who needs Next-gen?
Everybody. Real time... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Wow was that at E3 ?? How did I miss that .. So its a FF tech demo or something ?
Thats tech demo of new Square Enix engine, for next gen of course. They had presentation, its somewhere on youtube. They talked about engine tools and simplicity of development. Engine is synced with Maya, and you can change assets on fly from there. It will speed development and bring cost of them down, exactly what Japan needs.
Exactly Shaman! People like that are tad bit delusional. They see that Square Enix tech and yet they still want to linger in this generation of gaming, might I add arrogantly. Smh...
@Shaman As much as i loved seeing the demo of the Last of Us and Beyond which i think will be fantastic titles to play. After seeing the Samaritan Demo in HD and that new Final proves to me that we need new consoles. As much as i love the PS3 i know that its old and its hardware is outdated so right now is the perfect time for new hardware to come out. I dont mean to be critical of Nintendo but they severely dissapointed me with the Wii U because it seems to be a slightly better current Gen console and i was expecting a lot more from them. Hopefully Microsoft and Sony will deliver true next gen systems designed for the hardcore gamer because like i said before the Wii U appears to me as a casual console with slightly than better current gen specs. Thanks for the Video Shaman.
Its not that people need it. Its the fact that people want it. And people just don't know how to wait.
PS3 still has life in it. Vita sells are taking up most of their focus because they haven't been very strong. They're not really in a position to talk unless MS does. One battle at a time.
I agree with Sony.
MS and SONY are obviously eyeing the Wii-U. If it does take off successfully, along with successful critical acclaim and reviews, you can be rest assured they would follow the "tablet" format or other scheme one way or another. Judging from previews, Zombie U, P-100 and that Lego game are already beginning to showcase what asymmetrical gameplay could do.
E3 2013. I'm calling it now.
Yes, Sony you should have said something about it. I'm all ready for the next generation.
How much are you willing to pay?
$600 easily if it's as big of a jump as it was from PS2 to PS3.
LOL, that'll pay for the GPU and the hard disk at most...
As much as they put it up for, it wont be more than $600 (which i paid for my ps3) I pay for quality and Sony never lets me down.
the sooner they release the sooner the price comes down to an affordable one. i don't usually buy the consoles in their first year because of cost. i wait for the first price drop. but if the games are good enough (for me, as i'm extremely fussy) i'll just get one sooner.
I'm happy with my ps3+Vita....but i figure ill ve ready for a new system in November of 2014.
Or November of 2013. Who really knows?
They arent releasing info on it because they dont want to let the competition analyze what theyre working on.. Had Nintendo not shown wii u last year, microsoft might not have made smartglass to counter it.. This shit is chess, not checkers lol.. Both companies will reveal their prototypes nx year so that there is little time to redesign & copy eacheothers tech
This dude gets it.
Spot on. Bubble +1
This^ is also why Sony & MS feel confident that they can let Nintendo have two years. (e3 2013 reveal ps4/720, 2014 selling) The corporate espionage is huge in the game industry in the later years before a new hardware launch. Sony & MS know what the specs are for WiiU and aren't threatened. (they leaked last night FYI)
PS3 has plenty of life. Sony had the best E3 conference to me.
it's amazing that despite sony saying several months before E3 that *there would be no PS4 discussion/announcment* that people are still asking why they didn't see the PS4 this year. i'm going to repeat what i've been saying for 6 months - we will not see the PS4 on the market until the holiday season 2014. we'll see an introduction to the system at E3 next year, but no earlier than that. mark my words.
Ps3 isnt even at that "magical" $199 price point yet. No need to rush the next gen.
@ ziggurcat Been saying the exact same thing. It's a market plan that's as old as consoles. But givIng Ninny 2yrs is madness. Regardless, that ff Agni tech demo....is not next gen. It's possibly next-next gen. The costs of producing that game would destroy dev studios outright. The consoles needed to play that with that level of performance..... Nope, even devs want current gen to last as long as possible. They've never had profits like this this late in the life-cycle. Due to costs to produce games going down...mostly due to engines that are finished. The cost of make blops 2 must be in the $100's of thousands. That incredibly cheap for todays AAA games.
"Hashimoto couldn't specify when Luminous-powered games will hit the market, but he smiled and said, "It won't be that far from now." While this is the next-generation of Square Enix's game engines, Hashimoto said the engine can also be adapted for current-generation consoles, but stopped short of confirming a current generation Luminous Studio game." Part of it is used for Versus on PS3 already, according to someone who attended a behind-closed-doors conference. The demo was running in real time on a DX11 card, and their target is next gen. The goal of pretty much every next-gen engine is making development easier and reducing costs, while pushing graphics. The Unreal Engine 4 tech demo being shown tomorrow was made by a small team of only 14 people within 3 months.
I agree with this. You all have ADD, next gen can wait.
Sorry, but no it cant. The interview says games are being developed for PS4 already. They didnt talk about it this year but it is obviously not far away.
I wouldn't be surprised if many of the people saying this are the same pones running through games in a matter of days- as if they aren't short enough- or treat the Vita's library as if it's nonexistent when there are more than 20 titles on it(not just one it, but FOR it).
next-gen is already here, we are just missing out with consoles. and no i am not a troll and do not have a gaming PC, but i do have eyes in my head
we don't need a god damn ps4. Jesus christ look at the flow of games coming out for ps3. And they still look phenomenal. I think ziggurcat is right. But if not 2014..2015. Dammit I'm happy with my ps3! Why can't you people just be satisfied?
Because the ps3 and 360 are a joke now. I don't know about you but 720p barely staying at 30fps is whack. I've recently switched the majority of my focus to PC gaming because games running at 1080p at 60+fps really makes a huge huge difference. I know The Last of US will be epic as well as most first party exclusives but GOW Ascention should be the last exclusive and first part should be getting ready for next Gen.
@Shaman, thx for that link...i'm totally speechless...simply amazing. That looks truly nextgen.
Sony will announce the PS4 when it`s ready to be announced. I`m pretty sure they still have alot of money to recuperate from the PS3. The PS3 has alot of life left in it.
The PS3 was less successful than the PS2 - time to learn from this gen and move to the next. Why for the love of all that is good, as a gamer would you not want new hardware? Makes little sense to me. "I love games, but I dont want them to improve and progress."
EVERYTHING was less successful than the PS2. That doesn't invalidate what HAS been done this gen. And it's not as if this generation is as dead as people want you to believe. Yes, I want new systems. But that's not to say that I'm not satisfied with what's going on right now. I'm VERY happy with what I see coming down the pipe for the PS3, so I don't particularly mind if the PS4 is still a little ways off.
Sony nor Microsoft didn't need to talk about a next gen console. They must have had some info on what the Wii U was going to be about and after we all saw what we saw... it LOOKED just like a cloud of smoke. Current gen games looked better than everything we saw on the Wii U and Zoombie U was CGI. So... Sony and MS wasn't even phased
The "next-gen" consoles aren't here simply because gamers don't want to pay for them. Just look at how many people bitch about the cost of games! $60 is NOT a lot of money. Stop being cheapskates or find another hobby. "Hardcore gamers" my ass.
I would have been fine with a 5 sec teaser something along the lines of: The next gen of consoles is coming. The next PlayStation. It's Coming A Revolution is coming The PS4 is coming. I would have been fine even if the teaser didn't have any video or pics. Just text
Probably best they wait so the announcement doesn't overshadow other games. I'm still thinking it'll release at the end of next year though.