Mike Bantick of ITWire writes: "Or is it that Sony have found a sweet spot of features and price that gives the total package the attractiveness required to loosen cash from wallets? Either way the PlayStation brand is back in the game."
price has helped but all these games in 2008 and one more price cut is going to do wonders.
blu ray wining format war + good games like uncharted and warhawk and bigger games coming = yay
But it is not BOTH in 2007 It will be both this year (2008)
I thought it was the drop in price and fact it does both. But what do I know? I am just a consumer...
at least not to Bloodmask and other 360 fanboys. They refuse to believe the PS3 has any good games even now. I wonder what they'll say by years end... PS3's resurgence is due to a combination of everything: games, exclusives, the Sony name, and....RELIABLE HARDWARE. How many of you 360 owners bought a PS3 out of frustration with MS and are happy you came to your senses? I rest my case.
Xbox fans will say Blu, PS3 fans will say games, and at the end of the day its the owners that matter. Of course as a PS3 owner, the Blu-Ray to me is just a sweetener!
Couldnt have put it better. I bought the PS3 as a games machine and the Blu Ray was a bonus that looks like paying off. Time will tell but it looks bright.
Games first, BlueRay player second.....both awesome!!!!
it's simply blu-ray. if it was games... then there would be a decent percentage of attach rates.. but there aint... and if it's not bluray... then why is it advertised by sony as a bluray player all the time?? lol. The PS3 is a bluray player. plain and simple
attach rate and sales figures are pointless, generally i play say 3 games a time, i dont tend to go back to old games so i trade them in. Now that means i only own 3 games (-PSN), but ive actually bought 10.
Ps3 gets a better install in the usa things will change.
i bought my ps3 for games and I also bought a 360, but it rrod on me like 3 weeks ago. So Im gonna have to get a new dvd player...
minus 1 bubble for straight up trolling idiocy.
Every time there is a HD-format article, MS fanboys (and HD-DVD supporters for that matter) are quick to point out that the Blu-ray movie disc sales cannot be attributed to the PS3 because the PS3 owners RARELY buy movies. Now every time an article like this pops up, they are also quick to point out that it's because the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player, and therefore, people use it only to watch movies. Seriously, you numb nuts need to make up your mind.
I don't think I've ever heard anybody complain about the ps3 NOT being able to do something that they needed to do. The ps3 does everything. EVERYTHING!!! Really though, I challenge you(and myself) to find something that the ps3 should do, and doesn't.
The PS3 should have in-game messaging. I'm a PS3 fanatic and even I know that. And while I know it does in SOME games, it should be able to in all. I do know what you're getting at though. I love everything it's capable of and not a day goes by when I don't turn on my PS3 to use it for something. One thing I would really love would be for Sony to expand printer support. I would love to connect to my photo printer via bluetooth and print out photos on my PS3 wirelessly. That would be awesome.
auto shutoff/switch off to standby after downloads are completed and flash update so I can see game trailers and multi channel sound output ie hdmi, optical and whatever at the same time instead of having to switch
that can't choose a side. So now you want to be friends? We dont need your charity you hear?!!!
Both since the PS3 is a game and multimedia powerhouse. The imminent death of HDDVD is propelling the PS3 unto new heights.
You have sene the sales of games for the PS3 haven't you? How is Uncharted, Rachet, and UT3 doing? You don't want to know. How come the software sales numbers are not as close to how the hardware sales are? Especially during the Holiday sales.
It will reach a million. same goes to Ratchet and UT3. Rather than trolling why dont u look at european numbers I am from europe and so i know In terms of worldwide sales ps3 still outsells x360
Both...I hear a lot of 360 fans assume that people will just watch movies on there ps3 like people don't have kids who don't want to play games....losers
So again, why the low sales of games?
b/c there isnt alot of Megaton games...atm PS3 playing its megatons (or semi..you choose)Uncharted/HS/Resistance /Warhawk/Ratchet...Alot of people are waiting till GTA IV to buy their next console and also lot of PS3 owners/future owners will buy close to MGS4 its the same thing with the Wii before Super Mario Galaxy game out (everyone just played Wii Sports/Play/First day owners got Zelda) Also for 360...what did it have at 1st full year...semi megaton in Dead Rising..then its 1st big in Gears of War..until that point people just looked at the console If you think of if all 3 came out same day....they are all on the same track of games (except Wii..only its Megatons are good..rest is garbage for making minigame crud). 360 has a year ahead..so it has the biggest library at the moment, but PS3 has such a good year (hopefully not many (i know there will be some) push backs) coming that at the end of the year (2008) it SHOULD (agian SHOULD) be top of most Megatons.
And now console gamers get to sit through the tedious and asinine second act of every "PS3 is teh doomed!" article from last year with an equally asinine 'PS3 resurgence' article. Sony has two and only two real things they are competing against this gen: 1) HDTV adoption rates - unlike previous gens you really need a 1080p set to get the full PS3 experience 2) Manufacturing cost reductions - the reports of the dramatic cost reductions for PS3s should give a good idea of how well Sony is doing on this front. The major cost reduction being, of course, the huge drop in BluRay drive production. Every single major franchise that led 125+ million gamers to go out and buy PS2s last gen is appearing on the PS3. Plus Sony has expanded their first party exclusive developer line up to a size that dwarfs both Nintendo and Microsoft combined. Sony now has 20 first party developers making PS3 exclusive games compared with just 9 or so for Nintendo and 3 or 4 for Microsoft. That is a gigantic increase from the PS2 first party developer lineup that created the largest and greatest library of games ever for a console. The only other factor for Sony this gen is how many PS2 owners will take a brief detour into Wii land before they upgrade to HDTVs and PS3s.
Sony now has 20 first party developers making PS3 exclusive games compared with just 9 or so for Nintendo and 3 or 4 for Microsoft. That is a gigantic increase from the PS2 first party developer lineup that created the largest and greatest library of games ever for a console If they don't sale why does it matter. We have seen 3 games on the PS3 that are exclusive and they are selling poorly compared to Multiplatform games. Your right we will see but based on how 2007 went. We were told the same thing in 06 about what to expect by this time.
This is an easy one. Low software sales and high bluray sales pretty much proove that the ps3 is being bought up for the cheap bluray player. Roughly 9 million ps3 owners and UT3, Uncharted, R&C have all experienced extremely low sales. But I seen it happend all the time at BestBuy. Bluray was the hot gift this past Christmas and employees were always telling the customer to pick the ps3 instead of the other standalone players. They would pick out some bluray movies but zero games.
dude, regardless what you think (which is pointless as your not even a PS3 owner), as of now 2008 belongs to Sony. games, media format, whatever. dont worry 6 months from now, that 360 + HD drive will still fetch $40 on ebay. EDIT: disagree's? yeah your probably right, $20.
Maybe you need a girlfriend. I think I know why you might not have one, at least not yet... look: My advice, get out of the friggin' tard club, dumbass.
Because Uncharted selling .82 million in 2 months or less with 9 million ps3s out is just "extremely low" then so is Mass Effect selling 1.27 million in 2 months with 16 million 360s out.
It doesn't matter if the PS3 is a gaming machine or a movie player or both. I own a 360 and enjoy movies. When the PS3 had its first price drop on the 60gig model, I snatched it up as a movie player. And it is a great player. However, it is also a great gaming machine and the couple of games I can not get on the 360, I pick up for the PS3. The thing a lot of the PS3 haters are not seeing yet is once the PS3 gets where the PS2 is at in sales numbers (as in over 100mil), it does not matter if only 2% of the owners are using it as a gaming machine, anything brought out for the Sony system will sell over the 360 version. Being realistic, I think we can conclude that the 360 will not see over 50mil units sold in its lifetime, the PS3 however (going on past experiance) will. For instance, two years old, and the 360 has just started to turn a profit for MS, while the PS3 is already in the black...for those that will dissagree with that statement, the article is somewhere here on n4g. So what does it matter if people are buying the PS3 as a movie player, it still is a sale for Sony.
Now that Blu-Ray is the victor of the format war many more people are gonna buy a PS3 for their Blu-Ray needs. What you and the rest of the Number munching xboys should realize is that Publishers don't look as to why X product is outselling Y product. If at any point the PS3 were to surpass the 360, even if all people are using it for is Blu-Ray(which they're not) to a publisher that is a greater potential for sales with a higher market share. Don't Believe me. Just look at all the North American content that gets released on the 360 because of their lead, that doesn't happen in japan where the PS3 and Wii are leaders in that division. Better yet take a look at all the projects many developers have in store for the Wii since they are now Worlds #1. Sales are sales, bigger market share for whatever reason is all that matters to Publishers and they are the ones that put out the money for the projects, bigger market share = more content. That has been a proven factor throughout the history of Videogames.
Maybe it's the first word slapped on the front of the thing: PlayStation.
you ready for the SuperBowl, Pat's 19-0 Baby. aww thx Madden..somehow I don;t think I'm the only one that's been jinxing it lol
I would've thought so kat, but I think you just jinxed it. Ewww! 8D
But it's probably games that are driving sales. Hell, just look at the sales of Uncharted, Ratchet, Heavenly Sword, and Call of Duty 4 on Sony's platform. As more and more software titles are released throughout 2008, it's easy to see how popular the PS3 will become.
The PS3 must start selling because of Software. While price-cuts help, I think Sony was put in a tough situation with it's high-prices console so it had to slim things down or cut cost rather quickly, which is why we had Extra Sku's for which Sony has never been known for. That's expected the competition is different, you do what you must. Hey consumers win. If the 360 wasn't around you wouldn't of seen that Sku BS. What's wait to be seen is what happens when the 360 cuts their prices to match? Ya know like a real price-cut, I wonder if it stand true, the first to $199 will sell like wildfire....The 360 already sells very well with software. I really think Sony has split the market, and it's user-base numbers are skewed because of who is really buying the console for games. I'm not sure how much it hurts them tho, that's why in 2008 the software must sell the console. If this does not happen, with the big games coming out, then I don't know Sony.... Software sales have not told us that the game are selling the consoles like wildfire. I always seem to run across people saying I want a ps3 because of the blu-ray. Like I said it is helping drive Blu-Ray sales but what it is doing is "Skewing" the User-base, whatever that number may be. Ya know I don't remember xbox, or ps being marketed as a cheap DVD player. It was more of a "Whoa it also plays DVD's SweetT!ts". I seen a new Sony commercial and it used the same music but it was just showing movies. Then there was one with only games..like wha
08 will be both and maybe at the end of the year it will be only the games that will drive the PS3.
strong hardware functionality worth/price plus the well documented problems of the other consoles = resurgence
A.Creed and Call of Duty are moving towards 2 million each on PS3.
nothing but crappy games to play this year so they're gonna spend the entire year wondering why they bought a 360. if you want proof that they've got nothing to play just look at this comment section, they're all here feeling insecure about their lineup for 08. i don't blame them. it's a terrible lineup. Blu-ray has won and now they're pissed about wasting money on the HD-DVD add on. things aren't looking good for 360 in 08.
But not 50-50, it's right now 60% games, 40% blu-ray, and next year it will be 70% games 30% blu-ray. I would have put 80 or 90 on games, but blu-ray is gonna become even stronger this year, so while games will make the PS3 worth a lot, Blu-ray will be the cherry on top that gives the PS3 more meaning.
I know families that consider it a deal breaker because of the dual functionality. Enjoy some games and some high-def content, it's a tough thing to pitch a case against. The thing about having both is that if Dad wanted a Blu-Ray player for the living room, then his son Johnny has an excuse to buy Killzone 2 now. That's the way it works. Even for single folks, it works both ways. People who bought it for games will see a Blu-Ray that they like and think to themsleves "Ah, what the heck." The Blu-Ray crowd is sure to say the same thing. It most definitely is a modern day technological trojan horse for Sony, which is a term a lot of you trolls love to use...and it's true. Just remember...the Trojans didn't win that war. ;)
Was there any doubt... seriously... PS3 i think will be on-top this year... so many features and its awesome functionality. Its a no brainer for people sitting on the "fence"
I think its more because of games. Please somone provide me some information that majority of PS3 purchases is to play Blu-Ray movies on it. You won't find it, its not true. PS3 games may have a low attachment rate but some games on the PS3 have exceeded the 1 million mark many times. Some exclusive and some multi-plat.
Microsoft rushed all of the "good" games into 07 and now they've got no system sellers for AAA titles for 08. Kingdom Under Fire received a 3/10 from 1up. What a way to start off the year. That's just embarrassing. Blu-ray won the format war and now 360 owners are left with a useless HD-DVD add on. I could understand why they're so pissed.
id say the sexi-E-ness.
I like how 360 fanboys want the ps3 to be just a Blu Ray player so bad but in reality they wish they had A High Def player in the 360 that wasn't dead. You guys can call the ps3 a Blu Ray player all you want because we know we have a choice. We can choose to use are ps3 to watch movies like Dark night on Blu Ray or play games like COD4, Uncharted, UT3, MGS4, Haze, gta4, and Dmc4 on our ps3. I'm sorry the games on the ps3 aren't selling like you want them too but we know this year in 2008 we have alot of choices of what we want to do with are ps3.
After getting the RROD for the 3rd time. The way I saw it, there was no point in me keeping when all the games I really want are on PS3. Bioshock was amazing but that was it. Didn't like Mass Effect, I thought it'd be like KOTOR but instead it plays like a very slow paced shooter with pointless decision making. I sold it for two reasons really: 1. RROD. And 2. I'm not looking forward to any 360 exclusives this year. I'm tired of Microsoft's bullsh*t.
Is it All of its PC multiplatform "Exclusives" Someone do me a favor.. List the 360's exclusive AAA titles. Last time I checked.. Via Metacritic. HALO3 Forza2 Mass Effect So does the 360 only have 3 exclusive games in their game library worth playing? Or do xbots count 89 and below?
That's hilarious, but I keep my laugh for the day they'll buy a ps3 and will have to come up with an excuse to dodge the ridicule. Remember xbots, the later you turn coat, the more difficult to get away with it, ha! And oh, I'm still trying to find 1 single game in your idiocratic library that I miss... so far... nothing... zip... nada. No, the 360 is just that: a crappy console for losers who discovered fps with halo and think it's kewl in 2008. Open your eyes fanboys, you're getting massively pawned... right now, and you know it... hehe...
There is no PS3 resurgence, just go look at its disastrous holiday sales for all the evidence you need. The PS3 is stuck in 3rd place, thank god that Sony's reign of tyranny is over
what doest that say
but your lame, insecure comments still continue.
Zhuk is just being facetious, check his profile. Truth be told, I've fallen for it enough times myself.
and continue...oh wait...j/k
i think he's funny. he and sniper are like 1 in the same. they both have that pr gene. Personally, i think zhuk owns a ps3 and is probably that top scorer on superstardust hd
a master at super rub a dub aswell.
360 RUSHED most of its POWERFUL titles out in 07. The main reason that I can think of, is that MS wants to trow off the PS3 by releasing all those games! NOW, look whats happening! 360 has good games but none of them will be as big as last years title releases. How can they put Bioshock, Halo3 so close together? PGR4 and Forza2. Thats rushed! PS3, like I've said, is having its titles stretched out. This year will have a lineup similar to that of the xbox360's 07 year. Hit after Hit titles. MS could have released those titles more slowly! It's like using Nos, use all of it too early and you risk loosing! No one had a piece (aka) BLAMMER to MS's head and said "You will release these AMAZING titles real fast" Slow the hell down!
Xbox 360 is saying "No more Shining shoes, Non of that Shiat!!"
They're rushing everything they've got so soon that they're gonna be left with nothing. It's a last gen console that only plays DVD's. They can't compete with Sony this year. OR the year after. Sony always wins.
the Dreamcast 2 actually was actually born...
It the good game that came out later in the year as well as the price drop. BR didnt suddenly get more popular and drive sales. Only now with Warner are they picking up. I was the first in line to get a PS3 but I didn't get it to watch movies on. BR movies are a bonus. An excellent bonus. I got it for games. Thats like saying you only got an XB for Downloads. And for all the bragging about attach rates yeah PS3 is lower cause some people do get it for a BR. But them some of them will buy games as well. XB attach rate is high because they buy any piece of sh*t and thats a fact. It wouldnt surprise my if Bomberman outsold Ratchet and Clank yet there's no way you can say its a better game. Bot will buy anything. But can anyone tell me without looking it up how many games PS2 and XB sold last gen? No. We all know how many units were sold but. 120M and climbing to about 25M. Thats how the winner will determined. No one will remember the software sales even if EA does love it.
People getting sad because the console of their preference is losing steam. Buck up stupid kids. It doesn't pay to be a retarded fankid. Play games on any console.
its blu ray titles not games.
I feel foolish for having ever taken you seriously. You two are like the Neo and Agent Smith of this place, in a constant power struggle to "balance out" the erratic nature of this place.