Looks like Namco's Ridger Racer 7 is too taxing on the PlayStation 3. Kotaku caught this poor floor rep tending to the overheated, bugged out PS3
signs of problems for the ps3 jsut had to be at TGS this is no surprise to me at all.
Maybe thats why that guy had gloves on while holding the PS3 on a past post.
OK OK OK...... look I own a 360, but this was put on this site just so people could start fighting. the 360 had some heating isues as well, mine has never messed up(thank god)!!! There is no reason for everyone to start bashing the ps3 b/c it is over heating. its new and has bugs to work out. besides........i think it has plenty of problems already, so no need to bash it more
Did any 360s ever overheat at game shows before launch? [If you need help on this one, the answer is "No".]
What happens when you put unproven tech in a box and try to push it too hard running games in 1080p? ha ha ha ha...You get overheating on the first day at the show. So when you get it home...you think you have a future proof system to next 10 years and it don't even make it past 10 hours. And you spent over half a grand on it...WOW. Like Eternal said. Common sense would tell you this would happen. Thanks MS for putting proven next gen tech in the 360. WOW
Looks like Namco's Ridger Racer 7 is too taxing on the PlayStation 3. We caught this poor floor rep tending to the overheated, bugged out PS3 that sh1t the bed during the first day of TGS. Yeah, we know this sort of thing happens all the time when you've got unfinished code running on unproven hardware, but we also know that even though you've got a Bravia television and a high end PlayStation 3, your cooling solution (an electric fan) is wicked ghetto.
Plus, 1080p and 60 frames per second don't mean squat when you're rendering a blank screen.
It probably wont even load the menu screen on Resistance.
PS3 is one hot product!
I LMAO when i saw this, and thought, hey it reminds me of something else that happend to me, twice, hmmm, maybe an overheated Xbox 360. 2 times thats happend to me in not even a year, and this is the 1st one, and prolly the 1st time it has been turned on. So for you guys to just flame this topic to hell for Sony, what about M$. Although, i got the 2nd replacement free, but still, what do you say about a product, thats only been out for 10 months and it burns on you twice. Every piece of technology overheats, so there should be no flaming here. every product does it, and it just so happend to occur on TGS. Whooopie
I guess you got some bad luck if we assume you are telling the truth...but I have 6 360's since launch and haven't had any problems. And I have 8 friend locally that have 360's as well, and they haven't had any problems...So, yes there are always problems with new systems. And MS is taking care of what ever issues "some" people may have had with "free" repairs and a free extended warranty. But the point is the ps3 was bound to have major issues. The sysems haven't even been on for 10 hours and already over heating and stopped working. Not even a whole day folks. And I guarentee it has to do with the "Cell" and the hardware struggling to pull of 1080p on hardware that ain't powerful enough to do it. Once PPU with 7 spe's drawing from it is bound to have problems. I love the 3 PPU architecture of the 360. To me, its common sense that the ps3's will have major failures. Unproven hardware with devs desperate to show the power of the "Cell"...ha ha ha ha...But Sony and their followers are getting exactly what I said months ago. When sony fans would bash the 360 ... I told them...the joke will be on them when they get their ps3 home and plug it in. I haven't been wrong yet. Watch and see folks. If you think the 360 had problems...ha ha ha...you haven't seen anything yet. Ps3 will be in the record books....I guarentee it. And it won't be for sales. But for broken ps3's.
P.S. I have one question for sony fans....
If 2 of your Spe's were to fail in the cell chip......How would you know? People are going to play games that don't run good or just aren't impressive and assume it must be a broke Spe....then they are going to send their ps3 in for repairs and find out it wasn't a broke spe....its just the way the games look and play. But who would really know? With the cell having such low yields....it just makes for a scary situation for gamers who invest over half a grand in the ps3. WOW
you buy a warranty. If it breaks down, or something wrong with it in a year, then you have that warranty to back you up, and you get it fixed or buy a brand new one. But when you look at how many defects there have been on XBox 360 compared to 1 heard of so far for PS3, thats not too bad. I mean ok so 1 out of 200 overheated. So .005% of the consoles made and sent to TGS failed to work, compared to the 3-6% that have already failed for 360 and thats out of 5.5million. So now that 1 PS3 has overheated, i guess that means it sucks if not even a full 1% of the systems have failed. Make sno sense. Like i said, products esp. technology, will often overheat. Dont see why when 360 overheated no one flamed them, but when PS3 overheats, ohhh they suck.
that's all you heard everyday was how the 3sh1tty overheats. it'll burn your houses down. go buy your intercooler, ect, ect, ect. i can't fathom how people who post here can't see all this bs goes both ways from sony and microsoft fans. must be a lot of pac-10 officials and replay guys on this forum.
who said they suck? You seem up tight buddy. And for 1 to be reported to break down IN ONE DAY. Is crazy. But, watch and see. I ain't been wrong yet. PS3's will break at a record pace due to the cell and blu ray. and if games try and do 1080p its common sense when you have unproven hardware in your machine it will be pushed too hard and break down. Just use your head buddy. You have ONE PPU...with 7 SPE's running off of it. It just sounds risky...then you got code spread across 7 spe's trying to run a hardware intensive 1080p...ha ha ha...if you can't see the issues with that...then you aren't using common sense. Thats why MS has 3 PPU's not one with little spe's sucking off of it. That sounds like a risky concept for hardware intensive games. You'll see.
PS3 is going to have major problems. Whoever is buying a PS3 at launch, make sure you BUY THE EXTENDED WARRENTY. It will be foolish not to. There will be alot of problems due to new tech. If you're going to spend 600 on the system then spen d the extra 80 or so.
I see it now. But then why would they put all that technology and all "Next-Gen" tech. together in a box, if it doesnt work properly. Like yea, if you put it on paper, Blu-Ray and Cell shouldnt even be together, but these guys are smarter and know way more about technology then you and me, so you'd think they would have a resolution for it, or why would they make them and sell them and they dont work. I think, you just think its impossible and it wont work, when , if it does, youll be getting a lot of hate. I am so uptight, because I want a PS3, I like PS and Xbox, but apparently this site cant handle ppl with mixed reactions over different consoles. You have to pick one and thats it and be a fanboy( I dont want to be one). And um, you didnt say It sucks, but from the way youve been talking about the PS3 ever since Summer, you have never given a PS3 a cool vote, or even commented on a PS3 topic on a positive way. You have so much against them, and then you just go out and say that PS3 isnt that great and all this stuff.
I have said postive things about the ps3. Even today I have said postive things. Sure its not ofen...but its just my opinion. I fundamentally disagree with many of Sony's choices this time. The high price hurts everyone. It hurts developers because they spend all this money to dev a game but with a small install base due to the high price. then you have blu ray being pushed on everyone....even the people who have no interest in HD movies.....but sony tries to convince us that we need blu ray for games. I'm very skeptical of that. Then they go with a very very risky CPU. One that has very low yields and fundamentally makes no sense. ONE PPU with 7 spe's running off of it. That seems risky to me. From everything I have read...its good for floating point processing but not optimal for game code. So in a nutshell i'm dissapointed in Sony's choices this time around. But I will wait to pass final judgement till I get my hands on time playing it.
I agree that Sony has made some mistakes this time around, and most of them we dont need. Like Blu-Ray, is not a necessity, but im kind of glad its in there, just for something different and new thats never been in a console. And im srry about saying you dont say good things about PS3, i have seen that you put cool vote for Resistance, its someone else i confused you with, cant rem. who know. LOL. Srry man.
Well it's one out of 200 consoles,
are you feeling lucky punk......well are you, feeling lucky??
The PS3 never over heated,it was software related.
Come on now. It over heated. No big deal. Its bound to happen. No need to deny it. They still have two months to work out any bugs.
why`s the one playing resistance or devil may cry not heating up then?i mean ridge racer lol! u get the picture?just let it go..u got nothing to say here
because not all PS3 were working properly. One out of 200 is not bad. It doesn't matter that it didnt happen with Resistance. It just happen to take place with Riiiiiidge raceeeer. It was just a faulty system. No need to worry about it.
Could we all stop the insanity. Any former CS majors in the room other than me?
"Buggy" software, if that is the case, cannot magically make hardware overheat...the hardware itself is the problem. It does not matter how inefficient my code is, the hardware is an independent entity. Sure, maybe my inefficient code may be more taxing, but are developers supposed to follow some sort of "don't push the hardware too hard" creto. Did anyone blame the MS overheating on the software? Of course not.
This is exactly why MS went for their refund policy. They are now placing Sony in the awkward position of having to follow suit or be branded as not caring about consumers. Sony can't, of course, follow suit, because they do not have the capital to do it.
Anyone who thinks that this is just a Ridge Racer problem clearly has _never_ purchased Sony hardware in the past. Everything from burned out desktop CPUs to fried laptop hard drives to the now infamous exploding Sony battery.
Umm, unfinished and unoptimized code can definitely cause a console to overheat.
There is one problem with that thought. Ridge Racer 7 is the only 100% complete game the PS3 has right now. That excuse would only work if it was any game except for this one.
So your saying the software caused the hardware to overheat lol. listen to your self u stupid idiot.
No, he just repeated what the ARTICLE said.
Specially to Gametime/ssj04 (or maybe having another account after the multiple names cut down):
It get's so hot it's overheating and it'll burn your house down!
isn't that 'sadd' and 'pahatethic?' haha
I think it is infact good it overheated at TGS, since Sony will now need to replace all the fans and/or improve cooling instead of at launch hundreds of thousands of houses burning down.
Its interesting that when the 360 overheats, its not that big of a deal, but when a PS3 on a show-floor overheats... its the proverbial news of the century.
Its bound to happen sooner or later.
sony could have beenn smart in seeing their competitor had issues, and then made sure that it doesn't happen to theirs.
seeing as how they have had an extra year to get it right...which they obviously haven't learned anything from the launch 360's.
and it's not 1 out of 200, the article said ps3 were going down all over the floor.
in fact this is a good news ! 1 of 200 this is not a bad rate ! if there were 20 of 200 then i would understand some reactions, but i dont understand how can some ppl overrate that ? the other point is, the software can cause overheating if its not well programmed. this is a complex system, a small error can make much trubble. the other point is, the ps3 were the whole day on, its unlikely that one plays so much in one day, although not impossible, but it only improves the rate. i mean if you play a normal 2-3 hours, this will never happen, if this error is hardware based. i am happy that its only one of 200 !
hah, yah the problem is those ps3's have only been playing for a few hours so how can you compare that to long gaming sessions at home everyday.
Actually, the article said...
"We've seen a couple of kiosks and machines go down, but can somewhat safely assume this is just software related and not an issue with the PlayStation 3 machines themselves."
Remember you have many games there, some of which aren't even going to be launch. They're chalking that-up to early coding in software and not hardware.
AND TO THINK, all those PS3 fanboys had a right go at the 360 when it came out because of overheating issues!.
This is funny as hell, you see even the delaystation suffers from overheating issues!.....haha 1 of many problems with this new unproven hardware.
Hey Lands of Sands I would'nt talk The 360 was the 1st ''Hot product'' LMFAO!!
The heat issue can be both good and bad. Bad because maybe more PS3s can overheat from RR7 and good because Sony will fix that problem! And ofcourse some games would've heated the PS3 up after all, its the most powerful console in the world.
Xbox360 is not with out its faults,i purchased mine last december and have now had 2 fail.M$ suport is excellent .One thurday night my 360 died
with the 3 red rings of death.
i called m$ who guided me through various tests and concluded it was buggered
M$ arranged for the console to be colected,and to my suprise UPS arrived the following day with the box ,i quickly packed it up and gave it to UPS
Tueasday morning came ,(3 days later)and UPS delivered a new 360 to my door. WOW thats service
I call this fantastic customer support and aftersales service,and now the 'news' (not confirmed) that M$ are extending the warranties for another year 10/10
Can Sony compete with this sort of service ,i certainly hope so as they will be alot of P***ed off ps3 owners once they start failing ,and they will,mark my words.
Come november its either hit or miss with sony's new console ,and if the after sales support is not up to scratch for the PS3,(i work in a computer store and to send back a Sony Viao laptop for repair is a nightmare)then PS3 owners are going to end up with a $600 door stop.
I'm hapy with my 360 and was going to purchase a PS3 also but since the latest news of Xbox360 upgrade to 1080p i decided not to bother,and the fact that Sony have now delayed the lauch in europe til march 07 (i'm from the UK).
Was another nail in the coffin for me.
It's obvious that this article is biased and he definitely has something against the ps3. All it takes is to get a picturn with the Rep turning on the console and then just say it was having problems.
"turning on the console and then just say it was having problems"
you sure it isn't you who's biased
@ 24, so he's just turning it on? and what's the fan he has there for? maybe it's a heating fan cause the ps3 runs too cold?
Way too much tech in PS3, over heating will be the leat of peoples problems after a year or so. This is how KEN k. will out do the PS2 in sale's with the PS3. PS-fans boast about PS2's sale's when this sort of things is the reason why they can boast about it. lol anyways sh*t happens.
Speaking of customer service: Even though Sony's customer service and repair fees in Japan tend to be low and high respectively, I have been one of the lucky ones who has owned LOTS of Sony products and never once had any problems with them. This is pure luck as most of my friends have a total opposite opinion of mine, especially when it comes to Sony VAIO Stationaries/LapTops and PS2 machines. However, in my case, when it comes to Nintendo products, I've had troubles with hardware problems in many cases. To make an example, when I first purchased the Q machine from Panasonic's website, the Game section had picture problems. The picture would toggle between black and white, while colours would slide or melt into each other. I lived in Norway at the time of this buy, so I had to spend 100 dollars in shipping costs to ship it to Japan for repairs. My friend handed it over to Nintendo customers service, but since I never sent him any cables he wasn't able to test the machine before he sent it back to me. The shipping costs from Japan to Norway was at a 130 dollars. When I hooked it up, I found out that the problem was not solved. The machine still suffered from the same problem. 1 year later I brought with me to Japan to get it repaired once again. A month and a half later, my friend sent it back to (another 135 dollars), but luckily, this time the machine worked perfectly :)
Another example of defective product was with my Japanese XBOX. I bought it at the shop, took it home, hooked it up, only to find out that it was defective, not turning on. However, Microsoft's customer service is outstanding in Japan too, so after a quick phone call they came to pick up the machine on the same day, while managing to return it the next following day.
I just hope my luck with Sony products will continue into the future after the release of PS3 :)
I voted cool because this has never happend that i know of.
Remember the 360 launch lol, you Xrats have such small memories and brains, must be too much exciting stuff hapening with the PS3, i take it you Xthugs are getting ready for the Chang3 then lol hahahahahahhahaha, yous MS fanboys will be stuck with lame a*s photos of Fozra 2, while PS3 owners will get to play GT vision, i feel sorry for you Xrats comming on here all the time to talk crap, really if your console is so great why don't you actually play it, instead of getting owned on this site all the time lol hahahahahahhahaa!
The cell is not suited for Game Code. Its best suited for video streaming. You try to pack game code on 7 spe's and one struggling PPU....its only common sense you will have hardware failures. Thats the price you pay for attempting to be sooooooo innovative....inventing your own Cpu....they should have figured with the bismal Yields the Cell was getting....I knew this would happen. And it wasn't 1 ps3...there were a few of them going down with people frantically running around with little electric fans attempting to cool them down...Its the Cell...Just use common sense folks. You have ONE PPU. The ps3's ONE PPU Is simular to ONE of the 360's PPU's. Then you have 7 SPE's running off of that ONE PPU. Then you got game code that is not optimal on the SPE's attempting to push that ONE PPU. What do you think is bound to happen...Thats why the 360 has 3 PPU's and all three are optimized for Game Code. Sure the 360 had its problems and MS is taking care of them...but 3 to 5 percent is normal for all new products. But to have several PS3's breaking within the first 10 hours of use is a first. And thats just the itty bitty tip of the iceberg folks. And Once again...Microsoft New this. I'm not even a microsoft exec and I knew this. SO what does MS do? They provide Free repairs to all 360's bought in 2005. That puts Sony in a bad bad spot. Not only does sony loose millions from sales of their unproven hardware...they will be compared to MS on how they take care of systems no under warranty through the first few months. I know some of you will say....."who buys a 600 dollar system and don't buy a warranty...Well, it happens all the time folks. People who don't know any better. people who had to save and struggle to pay for the 600 dollar system. People who think..."it won't break on me"...I love sony and they are a hardware company....they wouldn't charge 600 for a system that breaks within 10 hours of use." Surprise folks...I told you months ago...and really if you think about it...its simple common sense.
Don't make me laugh, this is just fanboyisim getting taken to it's lowest again, please all the crap that comes out of your mouth wont change the fact that this is gonna be the best console ever!
Yeah, that's why Motorstorm, Resistance, Ridge Racer, White Knight, and FFXIII look so incredible. Must be because of those SPEs that don't count and can't run game code according de Microsoft. Yah. Yah.
It's funny how much you tout the power of the 360's general purpose cores when 85% of game code IS NOT general purpose, it's specialized SIMD (which SPEs were built for). But don't tell anyone! shhhh. We can't let people know how powerful those things really are. ^_~
it's a shame how biased your comments.
Because i for one could care less. hahah i'll be playing a sweet PS3 on a nice HD setup with 7.1 dolby digital god willing :)... And i'm bringing my buddies with me to the ps3 and away from the "Mediocore" 360.
It's not broken, it's in 4D. Our pitty human eyes just can't see it and we perceive it as a blank screen.
Please, please, PLEASE stop talking like you know the innerworkings of the PS3 and XBOX360. You know what websites and other users have posted. I don't remember you ever posting a picture of the diploma from the university you majored game design or technolgy in... so, please... enough with the 'common sense' crap. There are multiple games that require much more of the PS3 in terms of processing power then RR7 and they've had no problems. A system overheated. WOW. You fanboys are so desperate to see the PS3 fail that you cling to this? A system overheating when your precious XBOX360 was plagued with the same problem ten fold? Give me a break.
Do they employ Xrats to report this kinda lame stuff, or do they do it out of there own three will?
They used the same tactics in the PC sector. It's cheap and does a lot of PR damage, so hopefully Sony's playing just as dirty to counter them.
In other news, Microsoft Admits to Higher Than Average Hardware Failure!
will sony have there customers replace there deffected console for free if you got it on launch or prior to 1/1/06 and if you all ready paid and you was in that time range they will send you a check back for the money you had to pay so i think microsoft made up for that but will sony if it happens to them?
The Fan. Yeah thats the Problem right there the Fan should have had a 50,000 Air conditioner on top of it face down.
Look like the Ps3 had and accident at TGS it felt the power of the 360 from the Other side of the Room as Sh1tted on it Self then Passed out in it own juices. If you look closely the Guy adjusting the Fan has the word Coroner on the Back of his jacket.
Get Down or Lay Down.
only xbotics could be such hypocrites to "forget"
u actually have the nerve to call us hypocrites...nuff said
wow, thats just sad.
Ok so I guess the ps3 overheated but the thing I care about the most is the full 1080p with 60 frames per second now thats something to talk about.
dija know that? im not tryin t bash u or anything, but thats just the truth
We'll see how good a framerate the 360 can maintain when displaying in 1080p soon. And 30 fps isn't bad if they developers implement good motion blur to make it look natural.
We should do an Age Sound off! I'd like to know who posts what crap where, so i can either read throughly or ignore. If you wouldnt mind being honest list your age.
...360 failures are under 3% and not higher than usual. Now it looks they simply lied and played their little hidden agenda:
"As we discussed, we do not have a single launch unit that still works, and have long wondered how Microsoft could be ignoring the issue of 360 hardware failure in the face of an epidemic of failure."
http://gear.ign.com/article... LOL this says all, it couldn't be worse. An epidemic of failure, autsch...Now that MS had such big overheating problems, they desperately want Sony to have such problems, but don't worry this "we do not have a single launch unit that still works" can't be beat.
After the Xboxkilling and their PS3 vs Xbox360 analysis:
...it's yet another awful lie of the worst sort, nobody is lieing as bad as MS. The Toy Story graphics statement is btw yet another MS's lie and not Sony's:
It appears MSfanboys tend to twist the facts, I wouldn't wonder if half of their claims were just bull$hit.
Did also any of you guys hear of a 3 months warranty? I never did and any electronic product (PS1/PS2 including) that I ever bought had at least 1 year warranty. It's just standard and now people are applauding they extended something that should be taken for granted. Truth is this was yet another awful move by MS and such short warranty is another slap in the face of the Xboxcommunity.
And please before bashing the PS3 framerate you should look first at your beloved 360. Did you forget how Oblivion, an finished game performs on 360?
"Though you can see extremely far into the distance, far off hills will be blanketed in low-resolution textures that otherwise mar a beautiful scene. Loading times may also be a bother. Not the loading times when entering doors or fast traveling around the world, those are entirely manageable. It's the loading that occurs when traveling across the land that will cause the Xbox 360 version to stutter, as well as any mid to lower end PC. The game needs to load in grass and environmental objects at regular intervals, and the ensuing pause in the action may turn some off. There's also a very visible amount of pop-in, as grass, rocks and even houses appear at the edges of your vision."
"the loading stutter and the framerate may bother you as well. While the game runs at a steady clip in dungeons and indoors, you'll notice a performance hit when traveling quickly through outdoor areas and in crowded towns. These framerate drops don't so much affect the gameplay, but remain an annoyance as it takes you out of the experience. On high-end PCs these framerate and loading issues are diminished, but most PC and all Xbox 360 gamers will have to put up with them to enjoy the otherwise visual delight that is The Elder Scrolls IV."
http://xbox360.ign.com/arti... LOL an finished game with worse graphics than Lair but the 360 already can barely handle it and performs this game like a mid to low end PC.
So how would 360 perform a game like Lair, with such spectacular graphics, so much action on screen and so many enemies on the ground and in air? You probably wouldn't even see a second of smooth framerate and it would rain pop ups.
come out. We all knew the figures were BS.
u actually listen to Wang!!! hahaha!!!
N00B!!! btw i have oblivion for 360, and the framerate has been smooth 99% of the time, it only studders very little wen loading areas, but i got the game real late, after the updates which i believe must have fixed the framerate issue. i cant believe u listen t those brainless dimwitted n00bs that claim "360 already can barely handle it and performs this game like a mid to low end PC." wtf do u expect out of a pc port that hasnt been modified out of the box for the console version? btw, gears of war has greater graohics than lair, and runs smoothly so far from demos, even GRAW has better graphics and runs smoothly on 360. maybe u should try stuff out for urself, and longer than 5 seconds, and not with the intention to keep hating. and more than 3% defective 360s? ya, ok, so the whole FIRST shipment (and second which was rlly half the first held back), were messed up, but MS has made up for that, somthing sony has never done for its products (<caugh>the hundreds of thousands of broken ps2's). it was that stupid foil thing they didnt remove, but for shipments 3 and on, they did, and obviously have had hardly any problems if any ever since.
you're clearly just another fanboy like gametime, achira, DJ and NJ. and u listen t anything, even an idiot know-nothing like Wang.
Did you guys read post #13.2 post.....According to the "Official TGS Booklet" this game is the only one that is 100% complete....hold on let me say that again, its the only one that is 100% complete, so for all those that are trying to blame this on unfinished/bad software code, well maybe you could have used that excuse for any other game, but ironicly this is the "only" game thats 100% complete and it's the ONE that overheated. lol--Seriously though yeah, 1080p is definitely possible on PS3, but this adds a little gas to the fire that for most games 1080p is an uneccesary strain on the hardware with a minimal benefit....hence 720p is the "sweet spot". I actually read a review where Motorstorm seems to be visually the most impressive, and its not 1080p.
I hope for Sony's sake this is just an isolated incident and not a sign of bigger problems, but honestly it happens with complex technology, just like 360, although "overheating" at TGS in your own backyard has got to be embarrasing. ouch! Like I said I'm not trying to make too much of this....I'm simply pointing out the truth, because the funny thing is I clearly remember the Sonyfanboys talking trash about it happening with the 360, while I and many others told them, "it happens", many of them claimed it would never happen to the PS3, and I'm not just talking about the extreme Sonyfanboys that have absolutely no creditability anyway, I'm talking about alot of normal Sony fans....and if you think they won't have problems at launch and there after, then you truly don't know anything about videogames....hopefully it will only be isolated incidents and not a severe problem. It just goes to show you "Be careful what you ask for."
Some Ass. he sound like a virgin when he talks.
I bet he has no Bass in his voice whatsoever.
So he like to hear himself type. By the Way i Like RR6 on 360 but i find that it could have been better. 360 had this game on launch and now PS3 has it but i think since a lot of people never played it how the fuk could a fanboy tell the Difference on anything?
Get Down or Lay Down.
i noticed that this game is photoshoped ! look exact at the fan and you will see it ! what a joke, i ask myself why i didnt see it before. oh, and the source is again joystick, is it a surprise ? this news is totally fake ! all the man is making is to turn on the ps3. another reason is why the heck would he cool the ps3 when the ps3 is not turned on ???? thats totally unlikely that he cools the ps3 when the ps3 is off, because you need not to cool it when its off, when its off it cools itsleft by the surrounding temperature.