John and Evan take a look at something Xbox Evolved has pretty much ignored-until now. Xbox Evolved's staff takes two very different looks at the Blu-Ray format and if it would benefit Xbox 360 owners or not.
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...make sure that Blu-Ray does provide a real advantage for gaming over the dual layer DVD format. So far they have not. The kinds of things I expect to see is for games like GTAIV or Resident Evil 5 that the environments feature greater detail and variety as more data can be streamed off the disc. Its not good enough to talk about filling up the disc with bonus content or huge audio files to make the difference. Microsoft have been right so far in saying that DVD9 is a suitable gaming format. Its now up to Sony to show the world why such a sentiment should stay in 2007.
That picture is so fkn funny lol.
but Gates insists that they won't, so that's it. Of course, 360 owners and potential owners at large will be the ones who decide what they want by opening their mouths and wallets or keeping them closed.
MS should always support the winning format even if its SONY's
I thought the hardcore 360 crowd weren't interesteed in movies. Isn't that what they kept mocking the ps3 for?
I am sure they still feel that way. I don't use my 360 or PS3 for movies, not HD movies anyway. It's all about the games. PSWii60 FTW!!!
And I dont have any BR movies for my PS3, except the free spiderman. But I do have alot of games.
You're right, the 360 crowd is primarily interested in games. The 360 is the console of choice for hardcore gamers, and the attach rate proves it. However, the more options one has, the better. Not everyone would buy the BluRay add on, just as most 360 owners didn't get the HD-DVD add on, but the option to do so would be nice.
These consoles are about what you get to play games. The reason that HD-DVD didn't do well with the Xbox is because you had to buy the player separately. I'm sure that if an external Blu-Ray player came out for the 360 it would receive a luke warm reception very similar to the HD-DVD player. You might think that an external Blu-Ray player would sell more than the HD-DVD seeing as it now has the majority of the movie industry behind it but on the flipside it would cost more than the HD-DVD player and as such would be less attractive as a "non-stand-alone" player. For the PS3, including the player was a master stroke. MS had already released it's console, sans HD movie format, and it was a good way to get the player into the hands of a large percentage of the public. With the Xbox, it's not something the user would be getting for free. That's why the HD-DVD failed to catch on with the 360 user base and could be the reason why HD-DVD failed.
M$ can care less about the format war. As for disk space for games, all they have to do is a firmware update on the current red laser DVD drive to make it HD-VMD compliant. This will provide more space than blueray or HD-DVD for games. The developer can use the HD-VMD disc if it needs the space. So far I have been impressed with the compression tech devs and M$ incorporated into DVD-9 disks.
riskibuisiness Sounds odd, Blu have more space, and you can't use HD-DVD for games, your still dreaming, but Blu have won.
Recently a MS executive said he was "doing backflips" when Paramount went HD DVD exclusive. I think MS cared just a little bit...
PS3 is the way to go now that they have the winning format built into the system, watch great lookin movies, play great lookin games, and go on the internet whenever you want for its cheap price(Considering all the things it has) guess MS was wrong when they said they wanted theyre system "To hit everyones living room"(or sumthin like that)...Sony aimed the PS3 at the perfect audience, its great for the family but it has its hardcore games...the 360 is only for hardcore and the wii is for kids.
no it should be thinking "landfill"
It is not possible to upgrade the 360's inbuilt DVD drive with a simple firmware flash. I think the HD DVD addon should be binned and that be the end of addon players for 360 as they're not a factor for the vast majority of consumers purchasing decisions and do nothing for games.
If and when M$ needs more capacity they can do a firmware update to make the drive HD-VMD capable. I don't care about movies.....HD-DVD and Blueray. Neither of those are going to win anyway.
If and when M$ needs more capacity they can do a firmware update to make the drive HD-VMD capable. I don't care about movies.....HD-DVD and Blueray. Neither of those are going to win anyway. Sorry about the double post
Ahh... HD-DVD... we only started to get to know you :(
I love my ps3 for movies ....But man those games are great to.
Bill Gates just wants to focus on downloadable HD Movie content off of XBL and make more money instead off making a little profit off a format they join into. Smart move for him even though he's a sore loser when blu-ray won. Besides Sony owns the rights to blu-ray hell...they invented it.
And you can not get 1080p content in Xbox live or Apple Itunes! bluray will be the standard to see 1080p movies and soon there will be 4k tvs that will show 4 1080p screens and upscale 1080p movies to 4400p movies...they showed them at CES2008.... 720p is going to be so old school in about 1 to 2 years.... microsoft is screwed...apple can scale faster than microsoft since their Apple TV already has a bigger harddrive...so Apple TV will get to 1080p faster than microsoft. Most Xbox 360 people only have the premium console which only has a 20 G harddrive will about 9 to 11 GBs free. Everybody keeps forgetting Sony is going to launch an online movie service using the PSN network laster this year or early next year...it will be better than Microsoft try at it. If sony is smart they would partner with Apple and integrate Itunes into the PS3, PSP, and PSN networks. This would destroy microsoft!
Should 360 owners be thinking about the PS3?
Only because is a cheap blu-ray:) and maybe FFXIII:P
Why support a dead format? The Xbox 360 is the most advanced and feature rich home entertainment device on the planet, the Xbox 360 provides true next generation award winning media capabilities thanks to advanced codec and media center extender capabilities and with Xbox LIVE Video Marketplace the Xbox 360 is already years ahead of what the PS3 offers. The Xbox 360 is the future, while Sony and the PS3 are the past. This is shown by consumer reaction and support for the Xbox 360, which outpaces the PS3 in both hardware and software sales. Jump In fandroids and experience the true next generation of home entertainment Only on Xbox 360
Finally, the real Zhuk. I was getting tired of the imposter (Zuhk). Anyway, zhuk, all of the features you listed, "award winning media capabilities thanks to advanced codec and media center extender capabilities" have already been trumped by the PS3. Sorry, mate. You also seem to be confused between 'Blu-Ray', and 'HD-DVD'. I think you'll find that the one that isn't dead is Blu-Ray. Once again, sorry, Zhuk. Nonetheless, keep fighting for Microsoft Zhuk, it's not over yet... Someday, Zhuk, someday... EDIT: 3 disagrees? Why would you need that many accounts, Zhuk?
I kind of liked the other Zuhk. But I will admit, it has been a while since we have heard from Zhuk...
Seriously.... the dvd upconversion is not that great. Most ppl have the 20gb hd so downloadable content is not feasible. Xbox 360 is stagnent at a technological standpoint.
I cant stand that gay zhuk, i bet hes just mad because he bought the 360 on day 1 and was too impatient to wait for the PS3 so he just bashes it...the way he talks so professionally about the xbox is irritating,dont let his tone fool you...its just like if i would say: Look at this highly sophisticated stick, it has the the real power over all of the imposter twigs, all other sticks are a thing of the past, dont let the 33% snapping rate of this stick fool you, you can pick up another one from the Red Ring tree free of charge... Thats all there is to him, he makes a POS object look good with his wide vocabulary
Well, the debate aside, the article was a good read. If you haven't read it, I recommend dipping in to read what they have to say.
what? read the article? you must be mad sir, this is n4g, the home of assumption! EDIT @ LJ... dude you coming on to me here or what? lol...
Nice one, douche. Made me let out a tiny little giggle, almost like a small, delicate young girl being tickled... N4G - the home of assumption. Sad, but true. EDIT @ Douche: No, mate, but I can assure you that if I was gay, i'd definitely hit it. The above was a joke, btw. Nothing more...
They should focus on improving DDL tech thats the future. Blu-ray's timmer is ticking as all disc formats are.