I was seriously doubting they'd do this, as the system is definitely worth the price they've already got it at. Though if it helps sell more, I'm cool with that.
I really doubt this story, because firstly, where's the email(s)? And secondly, £80 is a ridiculous amount to cut price by after only 3 months. Unless they've got manufacturing costs down significantly, I just cannot see that happening at all.
Kaz did not say anything about VITA hardware in that link, To paraphrase Kaz, 'Sony aims to make a profit on the PlayStation Vita in three years'.
That could include plans for anything VITA related. Perhaps, Sony has some plans that the public audience has not heard of and that will be kept secret until year three, when the dust has settled and they are no longer in the red.
p.s. I meant to say, bill of materials for VITA may not be costing Sony profit since the bill of materials for VITA has never been confirmed by Sony reps to be losing them money directly.
Hehehehe. . .where are all those "Sony is not Nintendo" naysayers now? Vita is selling WAY less than 3DS was at the same price. This was bound to happen.
i highly doubt they r gonna drop the price 3 months of release faster than nintendo. this article is just bs fishing for hits. there will be bundles but no price cut imo.
Honestly, I'm a Sony fanboy. I love my ps3. I play massive amounts of games.
And I can honestly say - please, Sony....abandon the handheld market. Stop hemorraging cash. Let Nintendo fight the cellphone/tablet market...they will lose.
Disagree ,They will lose everything than. I mean no one will ever buy something. I for instance bought the vita<3 i love it. If sony stop supporting i will never ever buy a product of them again. Fighthing the cellphone market? DUFUQ? A mario always wins of a stupid agry bird game.
"Do u realize friend that PS Vita IS THE ABSOLUTE *MOST POWERFUL AND FULLY FEATURED HANDHELD* ever developed?"
Fixed.
Vita seems pretty cool right now, but it doesn't have the amount of AAA games it needs to become the "best handheld ever" just quite yet. Give it a few years though, and it definitely has that possibility.
The vita is the only time they were losing money over it , and it's early . While "we" obsessed over the DS overpowering the psp or vice versa , in the end , both company were able to coexist and make a killing .
of course any of the two company's driving force and execs will be thrilled and flattered to be beating the rival , but at the end of the day , money talks , amking the psp being overshadowed not so important
They aren't losing money off the vita is sold. Yes the vita is in the red but that's because of the initial investment for the vita. Production cost are extremely low. The 3g vita as of launch cost 259.10 to produce. And they do bring in about $30-40 per vita sold. So in about 2-4 years if vita continues to sell at this price it will be in the green.
wow relax dude. they are making a lot of money with the psp and its software in japan atleast. i am pretty sure once they release some quality software they will start turning a profit on vita as well in a couple of years. yes the market may be smaller this time around with the iphone/android competition. unlike the psp this has some good word about the device itself and the main problem people have is not enough quality software yet and imo it will do really well in the long term.
what the hell?? "And I can honestly say - please, Sony....abandon the handheld market. Stop hemorraging cash. Let Nintendo fight the cellphone/tablet market...they will lose."
ARE you freaking out of your Mind?
you must be.
Because
Sony Ericsson posts Q3 2011 results. 22 million Xperia phones shipped to date
yea just leave all those playstation Suite investment $$$ selling Software 1st party and 3rd Party and Indie developed games to sell on Android Smartphones and Tablets. All the while putting those games also on the PSVita. yea let's just drop the 8.7 million Smartphones sold per sales Quarter that they could Sell playstation software on and just Hand the mobile games market over to Nintendo by defacto?
I really think its just off to a slow start and they need to push out great titles for the platform. The 3DS got some really great games quick. When it comes to price though I can understand $169.99 for a 3DS sometimes with a game and they all come with a dock and 2GB SD card. Over a PS VITA ($250-$300) with no memory card or if your lucky you can catch a deal where you get a 4GB memory card and a game free. More importantly you get less with the Vita at a higher price than with the 3DS.
I have own a Vita since launch, I love it. I did not buy a 3DS because I wanted to wait for more games and hence a revision of the 3DS with dual analog sticks. It really just comes down to the appeal of the consumer I would imagine. Giving the Vita a little price drop would help without a doubt but I really think once the games start rolling out and they are marketed right then the sales increase will come.
P.S If they do drop the price I hope they copy Nintendo and give all the early buyers some games.
Actually tech wise you are getting more then double what the 3ds offers. Dual core CPU for the 3ds vs the quad core CPU in the vita. A single core super weak gpu for 3ds vs a quad core gpu capable of directx 10.1 graphics for vita(360 is only capable of directx 9). 128mb of total ram for the 3ds vs 512mb of system ram and 128mb of vram for the vita. The vita offers 2 analog sticks, a higher res more responsive touch screen, and a touch back. The both vita's cameras are 60fps while the 3ds is only around 20-30fps. The 3ds if you ask me is priced way to high for such weak tech. The vita is priced just right. Compare it to the ipad or iPhone in terms of power and the vita is still more powerful and suited for gaming yet it remains cheaper.
And the reason Nintendo gave early adapters games was because it drooped 1/3 of the original price really quick. The vita if the price drops will only be about $20 bucks.
I am not downing the vita at all. I feel that with the hardware it has I paid a fine price for it. I would imagine though that a lot of people out there would not want to shell out $250-$300 for a handheld along with memory card and games.
I feel that its a great price for what you get hardware wise. Sadly though not everyone is as informed on the specs as say we are. Thinking the consumer as a hole and with the economy. The majority are either waiting for more games or a price drop I would imagine.
ok let me get this straight. the best handheld system ever comes out at a fair price point with good games at launch. everyone scream for a price drop because they want quality items for low money. then they say they are going to give it to you (when they dont have to) and some of you are STILL talking shit on vita!? impossible! whoever is still crying that they wont get a vita for this or that reason CANNOT be independent man they have to have someone buying it for them. they gave your BROKE ASSES the price drop you cried for? And now you're still gonna sit here and run your dick suckers about sony needs to do this and that, they already have! forget it man, some of you people are beyond help. i hope when u finally get your vita at the price you have always been waiting for, with the games u wanted, someone like me comes up, knocks your ass out with one punch and takes your vita. then ill gladly trade for it and sell it back to you. next your gonna want your vita to play 360 games huh?
Some random site quotes a random email and it's the gospel? Yeah, okay.
Wait, they didn't even quote it, so the actual content of the emails supposedly acquired is unknown. In all likelihood, it was in reference to the new bundles we've already heard about. But that doesn't make headlines, does it?
This looks and sounds very doubtful and if i were someone without a vita wouldnt get my hopes up.
However anything is possible considering eveything Sony has been going through as of late with layoffs and company restructuring. So who knows really.
I will say this though, i paid full price for my vita and even though i may somehow feel cheated by a move like this. I will only say that i dont feel entitle to anything nor do i regret my early purchase, because quite honestly this platform is that good.
If anything, this is good news to me as many more people will get the chance to own one. This will in return mean more games and a bigger community.
My gut feeling tells me the ps3 will go down another 50 dollars when all is said and done. But, i hope this happens two, such a great platform deserves such a userbase increase.
Sorry....my sensationalist idea was t concise enough.
I agree....abandoning it now is too late. I didn't think that through.
But I do believe that the market for handheld devices is being engulfed by cellphones & tablets. Perhaps, that's the answer...a Sony gaming tablet with dual sticks and buttons?
Or....price your handhelds out of the cellphone & tablet market. $79.99 or something. (yeah I realize that's impossible)
App market makes handhelds a mostly exclusively for hardcore gaming. $39.99 game that isn't AAA is madness when Apple app store has some genuine fun casual games. And a tiny few AAA experiences.
I just feel like the market has moved on from what handhelds once were. They may still eek out profits...but, not the golden years Nintendo had. Maybe Sony & Nintendo need to revisit their buisness model for handhelds?
lmao... I can't believe u kids would actually try to discredit the PS Vita as THE BEST HANDHELD...PERIOD!
Please, for those that have disagreed with me, name a handheld that's beyond it?
Ya trying to make your point based on games that don't interest u. Trying to make a point on the games that's not currently available to your liking. So let me ask u, "when" these games show up, will u then give Vita it's due? Cause if so, what's stopping u now from doing so, cause the software WILL COME!
Or have we now come to an age where we judge a handheld by it's launched titles, instead of the handheld itself? LMAO... Game on.
Systems are judged by their respective software, it has always been this way, be it handheld or console. In fact, pretty much every previous console generation the less powerful system was considered the best. The vita may very well end up being the greatest handheld of all time, but making that claim this early is just as stupid as calling it a flop this early.
I highly doubt that it's as equally stupid as u put it friend.
U mentioned Software...PS Vita (Sony), nuff said. M not talking "power" as u put it...forget specs, talk more about what u get fresh out the box to the uneducated consumer on the product.
What handheld u know of that comes out the box doing what PS Vita does? How I feel this validates Vita as THE Handheld?
No other handheld does what it does on purchase, it's still freshly new and there's innovation with PS Vita/PS3 cross game play, amongst other things.
I even have a video on making it a mobile phone... now u tell me what handheld can do these things out the box, not including it's entire specs? Vita is The NGP! Game on.
it's not up for debate..it's a fact it is what it is. the hardware is well documented with off the shelf part's. This is not like the issue with the PS3 where many developer's will have a hard time developing better APi's for the PS3 that had to be done from scratch sometime's. This is ARM core chip's.
Its not upto debate there is no current Hand held other that the PSVita that has both a Quad core CPU and a Quad core GPU.
all the cell Phones have not reached that yet the Brand spanking New iPad 3 is still not using the most advanced Quad core SGX that the PSPVita is using.
AS of Right now the PSPvita is the current top end handheld, most other smartphones are running only dual core Arm 9 cpu's the PSPVita is running the Quad Core Arm 9's.
the resolution of many smartphones outstrip the PSVita, which is true it would not have been that way if Sony really wanted too they could have increased to HD, but your fill rates take a hit, and you have to increase the cost of the overall device because the screen would have cost more.
this way the screen is cheaper, the fill rate is not as taxed, and it's cheaper.
performance wise it's the top of the food chain in Handhelds right now. will it stay that way, umm no..lol but it will most likely stay that way until late 2013.
The best Handheld Console for now is Nintendo DS, it's too soon to proclaim PS VITA as the best. Don't be mad because you paid full price and now they are getting lower, that its called "EXCLUSIVITY".
We're not judging, we're just opinionated. That's why this forum are created for. So take the chill pill, and enjoy what you got.☺
u sir must not have a vita. i shit you not, if i had a 3ds, it wouldve been fucking SOLD the day after i played my vita. it may be good, but a vita IT IS NOT. mgs3d may be the biggest title on 3ds, and its about to come out on vita w updated visuals and controls, packaged w another legendary game in mgs2! plus mgs3 on vita will have the first 2 metal gear games included! do u guys need to be slapped w a vita to realize its greatness? im more than willing to help u w that
Ok, let's flip this discussion on its head....what perfect storm would be needed to proclaim universally the Vita a flop?
Only restriction is that the storm must be sudden....say 2yrs max and Sony folds it's handheld division. What circumstances would be required to make that happen?
Sony would be losing so much money on each Vita sold if they go this route. They should start out with a pack in game and memory card before droping the price of the system...
Hey Grimhammer...they can't come up with any circumstances... cause it's not gonna flop. That's y they're screamin for a price drop cause they want 1. I know it's the best handheld, they know it, they just want it at a cheaper price.
If it comes, then and probably only then will u c most agree with me on Vita being The Handheld. As u said though, let's move on. :) I like u guyz.
In reply to your 18.1.1, Well, you don't know me, how can you tell, if I have one or not? By the way, I like to explore my options, instead of being a fanatic of Playstation, Its called, Best Buy, Game Stop, etc. when you can talk with customer services, see the product,and play a little bit with the handheld before make a wise purchase. People need to be a wise person, not a FANATIC.
So, FYI, know the facts, and stop assuming, as always.☺
keep dreaming that They will reduce the price in 80 bucks, in maximum 50 bucks, going to 199 . Vita is a Quadcore system (CPU and GPU) same the Ipad 3 don't have this level.
The Vita is gorgeous machine that needs more games - and games that you can't play on PS3.
What are some of the Vita's best games so far ? Most of them are also on PS3 (Ninja Gaiden) or are the weakest game in that particular franchise (Eg. uncharted Golden Abyss).
very doubtful that they will drop the price by that much.. i would think maybe $50 at the most.. if they drop it over that amount i WILL BE PISSED! i bought it at launch which was my own fault but i had faith in the handheld and still do.. Sony better compensate us like nintendo did or theyre gona have some very upset customers
hmmm, i just thing thee isnt much of a fanbase for the playstation handheld market. Nintendo doubled vita sales without games. The vita came out with ports and lots of games. but there was still games available to play with at day 1 so saying it doesnt have games is just an excuse
once again i get a disagree Like i stated before other than the PSVita name me another handheld that contains a Quad core GPU and a Quad core CPU in the market today, and even than show that it can outperform the PSVita when it comes to games!
that of course is you cannot do it, why? because there is none. Like i stated before it's not open for debate, in the current handheld market for games the PSVita is at the top. that does not mean other handhelds are not just as viable for gaming. But it Has the most robust and Highest spec hardware wise to run games than any other Hand Held currently on the market.
Even other developers are saying the same thing
John Carmack: Sony NGP a 'generation beyond' smartphones
Whoever said the VITA costs a lot to produce in the first place?
http://www.examiner.com/art...
To paraphrase Kaz, 'Sony aims to make a profit on the PlayStation Vita in three years'.
That could include plans for anything VITA related. Perhaps, Sony has some plans that the public audience has not heard of and that will be kept secret until year three, when the dust has settled and they are no longer in the red.
p.s. I meant to say, bill of materials for VITA may not be costing Sony profit since the bill of materials for VITA has never been confirmed by Sony reps to be losing them money directly.
It just feels... off. ^_^;
If anything, the PSVita will have a price drop in the holidays at the very earliest.
I play massive amounts of games.
And I can honestly say - please, Sony....abandon the handheld market. Stop hemorraging cash.
Let Nintendo fight the cellphone/tablet market...they will lose.
If you where a sony fanboy you had a vita!..
Do u realize friend that PS Vita IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST HANDHELD ever developed?
And it would float your boat for Sony to abandon it?
U can't b serious.
Believe it or not, despite your wishes, many ppl welcome "evolution."
Checkout the sales of PSP.
M not knocking your opinion, but to me it just sounded kinda CRAZY!
Game on.
Fixed.
Vita seems pretty cool right now, but it doesn't have the amount of AAA games it needs to become the "best handheld ever" just quite yet. Give it a few years though, and it definitely has that possibility.
Who sounds crazy, now!☺
of course any of the two company's driving force and execs will be thrilled and flattered to be beating the rival , but at the end of the day , money talks , amking the psp being overshadowed not so important
the handleld market is making them money and you want them to abandon it ?
"And I can honestly say - please, Sony....abandon the handheld market. Stop hemorraging cash.
Let Nintendo fight the cellphone/tablet market...they will lose."
ARE you freaking out of your Mind?
you must be.
Because
Sony Ericsson posts Q3 2011 results. 22 million Xperia phones shipped to date
http://www.unwiredview.com/...
yea just leave all those playstation Suite investment $$$ selling Software 1st party and 3rd Party and Indie developed games to sell on Android Smartphones and Tablets. All the while putting those games also on the PSVita. yea let's just drop the 8.7 million Smartphones sold per sales Quarter that they could Sell playstation software on and just Hand the mobile games market over to Nintendo by defacto?
Get the hell out of here with that diatribe
I have own a Vita since launch, I love it. I did not buy a 3DS because I wanted to wait for more games and hence a revision of the 3DS with dual analog sticks. It really just comes down to the appeal of the consumer I would imagine. Giving the Vita a little price drop would help without a doubt but I really think once the games start rolling out and they are marketed right then the sales increase will come.
P.S If they do drop the price I hope they copy Nintendo and give all the early buyers some games.
And the reason Nintendo gave early adapters games was because it drooped 1/3 of the original price really quick. The vita if the price drops will only be about $20 bucks.
I feel that its a great price for what you get hardware wise. Sadly though not everyone is as informed on the specs as say we are. Thinking the consumer as a hole and with the economy. The majority are either waiting for more games or a price drop I would imagine.
Now back to some resistance on my vita. XD
LOL that sounds like the socialists in this country with healthcare and education.
XperiaRay
Wait, they didn't even quote it, so the actual content of the emails supposedly acquired is unknown. In all likelihood, it was in reference to the new bundles we've already heard about. But that doesn't make headlines, does it?
However anything is possible considering eveything Sony has been going through as of late with layoffs and company restructuring. So who knows really.
I will say this though, i paid full price for my vita and even though i may somehow feel cheated by a move like this. I will only say that i dont feel entitle to anything nor do i regret my early purchase, because quite honestly this platform is that good.
If anything, this is good news to me as many more people will get the chance to own one. This will in return mean more games and a bigger community.
My gut feeling tells me the ps3 will go down another 50 dollars when all is said and done. But, i hope this happens two, such a great platform deserves such a userbase increase.
I agree....abandoning it now is too late. I didn't think that through.
But I do believe that the market for handheld devices is being engulfed by cellphones & tablets.
Perhaps, that's the answer...a Sony gaming tablet with dual sticks and buttons?
Or....price your handhelds out of the cellphone & tablet market. $79.99 or something. (yeah I realize that's impossible)
App market makes handhelds a mostly exclusively for hardcore gaming. $39.99 game that isn't AAA is madness when Apple app store has some genuine fun casual games. And a tiny few AAA experiences.
I just feel like the market has moved on from what handhelds once were. They may still eek out profits...but, not the golden years Nintendo had.
Maybe Sony & Nintendo need to revisit their buisness model for handhelds?
I can't believe u kids would actually try to discredit the PS Vita as THE BEST HANDHELD...PERIOD!
Please, for those that have disagreed with me, name a handheld that's beyond it?
Ya trying to make your point based on games that don't interest u.
Trying to make a point on the games that's not currently available to your liking.
So let me ask u, "when" these games show up, will u then give Vita it's due?
Cause if so, what's stopping u now from doing so, cause the software WILL COME!
Or have we now come to an age where we judge a handheld by it's launched titles, instead of the handheld itself?
LMAO...
Game on.
U mentioned Software...PS Vita (Sony), nuff said.
M not talking "power" as u put it...forget specs, talk more about what u get fresh out the box to the uneducated consumer on the product.
What handheld u know of that comes out the box doing what PS Vita does?
How I feel this validates Vita as THE Handheld?
No other handheld does what it does on purchase, it's still freshly new and there's innovation with PS Vita/PS3 cross game play, amongst other things.
I even have a video on making it a mobile phone...
now u tell me what handheld can do these things out the box, not including it's entire specs?
Vita is The NGP!
Game on.
it is what it is. the hardware is well documented with off the shelf part's. This is not like the issue with the PS3 where many developer's will have a hard time developing better APi's for the PS3 that had to be done from scratch sometime's. This is ARM core chip's.
Its not upto debate there is no current Hand held other that the PSVita that has both a Quad core CPU and a Quad core GPU.
all the cell Phones have not reached that yet the Brand spanking New iPad 3 is still not using the most advanced Quad core SGX that the PSPVita is using.
AS of Right now the PSPvita is the current top end handheld, most other smartphones are running only dual core Arm 9 cpu's the PSPVita is running the Quad Core Arm 9's.
the resolution of many smartphones outstrip the PSVita, which is true it would not have been that way if Sony really wanted too they could have increased to HD, but your fill rates take a hit, and you have to increase the cost of the overall device because the screen would have cost more.
this way the screen is cheaper, the fill rate is not as taxed, and it's cheaper.
performance wise it's the top of the food chain in Handhelds right now. will it stay that way, umm no..lol but it will most likely stay that way until late 2013.
We're not judging, we're just opinionated. That's why this forum are created for. So take the chill pill, and enjoy what you got.☺
u sir must not have a vita. i shit you not, if i had a 3ds, it wouldve been fucking SOLD the day after i played my vita. it may be good, but a vita IT IS NOT. mgs3d may be the biggest title on 3ds, and its about to come out on vita w updated visuals and controls, packaged w another legendary game in mgs2! plus mgs3 on vita will have the first 2 metal gear games included! do u guys need to be slapped w a vita to realize its greatness? im more than willing to help u w that
Only restriction is that the storm must be sudden....say 2yrs max and Sony folds it's handheld division. What circumstances would be required to make that happen?
I'm curious. I certainly do not wish this.
LMFAO!!!!
Funny how ppl try to comment on hardware they have yet to experience.
Unbelievable :)
Game On.
cause it's not gonna flop.
That's y they're screamin for a price drop cause they want 1.
I know it's the best handheld, they know it, they just want it at a cheaper price.
If it comes, then and probably only then will u c most agree with me on Vita being The Handheld.
As u said though, let's move on. :)
I like u guyz.
Game on.
So, FYI, know the facts, and stop assuming, as always.☺
For me, the more handhelds, and more affordable handhelds, the better.
I love being able to just reach, hit power and I'm good to go. So if a price drop brings more people, and developers to the Vita, who's going to win?
We are.
The More people who own handhelds, the more games we get.
Simple.
The Vita is gorgeous machine that needs more games - and games that you can't play on PS3.
What are some of the Vita's best games so far ? Most of them are also on PS3 (Ninja Gaiden) or are the weakest game in that particular franchise (Eg. uncharted Golden Abyss).
anyways, if this is true, i wonder if they're gonna compensate early buyers like nintendo did but instead of old classic games, we get vita games :D
we'll know the truth once E3 comes. its like a few days away XD i cant wait to see all the new games and finally some fixed details on the wii u!
And I agree the system should've had a memory card (4gb) and a pack-in game in the box.
Rumored blops2 would certainly put it on people's Xmas lists!
Like i stated before other than the PSVita name me another handheld that contains a Quad core GPU and a Quad core CPU in the market today, and even than show that it can outperform the PSVita when it comes to games!
that of course is you cannot do it, why? because there is none. Like i stated before it's not open for debate, in the current handheld market for games the PSVita is at the top. that does not mean other handhelds are not just as viable for gaming. But it Has the most robust and Highest spec hardware wise to run games than any other Hand Held currently on the market.
Even other developers are saying the same thing
John Carmack: Sony NGP a 'generation beyond' smartphones
Read more: http://www.electronista.com...