What I do not get is why does Sony not just do an HD re-release of Socom 2 (which many socom loyalists say is the best) and just put the MP portion onto the PSN and see how that goes.
Thats exactly what I've been saying. Its a no brainer that a re-release of Socom 2 would top the charts on the Playstation Store. I would love for Sony Santi Monica, or maybe even Sucker Punch to try to make an authentic online Socom just release a bunch of maps from all the PS2 Socom games, then Sony could hire Bluepoint Studios (GoW1 & 2 remake) to remake all the campaigns from the PS2 Socoms. I loved all of the Socom games on PS2. Most of the people on my friends list I met back in the Socom 2/3 days :(
@ TechGear,
I think you're the dumbest thing I've ever heard of !
Why are they shutting servers down if Fans like it so much?
I think games should be supported alot longer. I currently play Dota and CS which are both over 10 years old and still supported. I would be furious if i couldnt play those 2 games.
They really should do a Legacy Version of Socom and make it HD with all the maps from all the console Socom Titles (new and old) I am glad to see that Socom 4 and Confrontation are not on that list. I just finished playing a few rounds of both earlier this morning. Really surprised to see how may folks still play Confrontation (It took Slant 6 several patches, but the game plays great) and also it is nice to see alot of folks still playing Socom 4. Really sucks that Zipper had to bite it, but there was such a negative presence on their forums...all the real fans were playing the game while the whiners and negative folks posted Zipper out of existance. Sad really. :.(
Socom 2 in HD sounds like something I would buy again. I rarely pay for rehashed games just because they are in HD, but Socom 2 would definitely get my money.
What they need to do is to make all of the Socom boards out of the new Socom engine and put it out free as DLC to Socom4; that will appease most Socom players plus get more sales to the Socom game.
all they would have to do is add HD texture packs and add in the Multi player element upgraded. kinda like the legend of zelda ocarina 64 HD update on emulators. its simple
Thinking about it, the announcement is coming oddly just before E3....so who knows. Sony obviously loves the HD collections to death, it is still possible.
Zipper should have done what activision did. Come out with a new game with the same gameplay with new maps every year. They would have made $$$millions!
Same here. Socom was my first foray into the online tactical shooter realm. I absolutely cannot believe that Sony isn't working to preserve the Socom brand with something other than the lame Socom 4.
Just dish out a remastered Socom 2 with full online support, Sony. 99% of your Socom fans would jump for joy if you did this. It's not that hard to see.
Yep Socom and now Metal Gear Online 2 (ps3) getting shut down this summer. The best third person TACTICAL shooters. Such a pity. Now we're stuck with all these lame games like COD (and BF3 is a great game, but not like socom and mgo).
I certainly wouldn't call it a hit... :/ It was fun and I knew a few people who played it a couple of times, but it wasn't a commercial hit. Great game though! The same goes for Unreal Tournament on Dreamcast/PS2.
No, not like SOCOM. When SOCOM 2 came out you could look at the numbers of people online. There were more people in SOCOM 2 than on all of Xbox Live. The numbers were ridiculous and that game ate the lives of numerous people.
Nothing has ever equated to victory like winning Enowapi as a SEAL.
It was actually Unreal Tournament. People played that more than Quake. That game was a blast. Cant play those fast paced shooters anymore though. Serious twitch fest. Socom 1 and 2 had people awake until 2am knowing they had school in the morning. I had to work at 730 and I would be up until 3am back in 2002/2003. Socom was definitely a console seller.
Morganfell-You're right up until you mentioned XBL to an extent. When Halo 2 went online, the game started to change because then Rainbow Six and Halo ruled online. BTW, Enowapi was the worst map next to Darkness Falls. Everyone knows Desert Glory was the #1 map. That's why they always included it redone with every Socom.
Socom on PS2 opened me up to Shooters and Online Gaming in general. To this day I still consider Socom 2+3 two of the best online experiences I've ever had.
I still find myself bringing up the old PS2 days, going over a friends house to play for hours and hours on end, just because I had a crappy internet connection.
Primarily and Xbox gamer here but I did enjoy the shit out of the first two Socom games. The first one that came out was awesome and it was (i think, correct me if i'm wrong) the first PS2 game that came with a head set so you could use voice commands.
ofcourse they do, i mean could you imagine having to pay to play online and going without exclusive games? can you imagine not having a bluray playing game machine? can you imagine actually having reliable hardware?
i own both but xbox can play blu ray movie files through usb so why does it matter if it has a blu ray drive? 2nd most exclusives have sucked compared to multi plat, uncharted is over rated with its toy sounding guns...graphics are good but for the story you can just watch indiana jones...gears of war is over rated also lol just look at it. i agree on the pay to play thats why my online games are for ps3.
I have 3 current 360s that are working (for Forza multiple screens)
Ive had two 360s fail. Samsung drive, and RROD.
I own two PS3s, a launch phat and a slim. So Im a gamer, not a fanboy.
Msft has abandoned the core gamer,
Msft doesnt care.
Not really. I mean, yeah, SOCOM 2 is the best in the series, but S3 wasn't THAT bad. At least SOCOM 3 & Combined Assault were still SOCOM games, unlike that CoD-style arcade bullshit SOCOM 4.
This is a sad day. If all thats left in the console shooter market is CoD and BF then I am done. I can't play these new 12v12 respawn deathmatchs because there is little to no strategy. If I want to play a tactical shooter I guess I'll have to do it on a PC.
I all most always played in Canada West.A lot of the fun was chatting in the game lobby before playing a match.Some of the great characters I met were Funky,Duffman,Ace,Natural,Fat Bast@rd,Keyser Sosa,Lizardman,Psycho,and so many more.Sitting in a lobby chatting while a couple of clan members fanned out to find a clan challenge.Then heading to the challenge room,talking smack,then playing was a heck of a lot of fun.Very nice gaming memories.
This is why I am pissed at Sony. Look how they handles Socom this gen. To me Socom is superior to Killzone, Resistance, uncharted. But they treated it like a step-child. This gen was made for Socom. They could have been what COD is now. They dropped the ball. All those studios but yet we haven't had a decent Socom game this gen.
its very sad the the online gaming scene peaked when Socom2 released......10years ago.
the fact that no other developer has integrated a lobby system like the Socom Series makes me sick that its all about money for all of these developers and publishers.
Really Slant six might have messed up and rushed the release of confrontation,but they stayed with the game working out the issues.Its plays great now and is 100 times better the S4.Its a real Socom game unlike S4.
MAG will be next. It's like a ghost town now. Can't even get a DOM game going much anymore at all. That is the best FPS I've ever played as far as game play. Nothing like DOM ever.
Well, SOCOM online community - goodbye....although I will STILL play the single player missions over and over and over....thank God for single player, and THANK GOD i did NOT pay for the "on line only" version called SOCOM Confrontation...this is the very reason NOT to buy on line only games.....kiss your money goodbye if you do!!
Confrontation isn't shutting down, just the PS2 and PSP titles. And it's a fun game that I enjoy multiple times a week. Not a GREAT game, but certainly worth a purchase if you're a SOCOM fan fed up with the current selection of shooters.
This is a very, very sad announcement for the Socom community. I hope they (Sony) don't think that this will boost Socom 4 in any way by taking away the other options because it won't. Honestly, I haven't played any Socom for a while since 4 came out but the fact that the option to sit down for some good ol' SI/II will be gone is almost sickening. 10 years worth of usernames, clans, profiles and stats - my mid to late teenage years - gone in a instant with the flip of a switch...Tis a sad thing indeed.
If we had an even remotely acceptable current gen alternative then I would agree with you, but we don't. They've repeatedly butchered the SOCOM franchise after SOCOM 2, completely disregarding the direction the fans wanted, and trying out every gimmick they could cram in. Confrontation was the only time they made any attempt to follow the fan's advice, but they gave the project to a rookie developer who had a lot of their own backwards ideas they wanted to throw in on top.
Socom fans should check out the current socom confrontation, flawed, so flawed, but as close to socom this gen as you will get. Socom 4 is a good game but not a socom game.
Socom fans should also check out Arma series on pc.
Sadly Konami is shutting down the metal gear online servers which is also a great tactical game.
Ghost Recon, socoms true competitor at one time is no more a good TTPS than SOCOM 4 is.
Honestly, the best we are going to get is Bad Company 2 which is a first person shooter but at least its not a run and gun.
socom2 did have a run and gun style to it. One of the best ways to win on Fish Hook or Enowapi seals was to completely out rush the other teams camping tactics.
Your not wrong. But its not always camping. Your teams job is to defend bomb/vips/etc. Defend it. Where are you going? We need to cover this position and stop the assualt. Oh crap he's dead, now i'm all alone defending, thanks.
But using desert glory as an example.
As a seal, rush the left side, take over the broken wall, from there the building on the right or the tunnel/stairs that lead to the second floor where the VIP's could be found.
OR, rush the middle, take the first building, take position by the windows, rush the middle building, all floors for sniping positions. Take out the wood plank that leads to the roof in the building with the vips to prevent snipers from taking position on the roof.
Or, rush the right, take over that battered building on the right. move up and put pressure on the garage so the terrorist can't advance on you.
Flipside. Terrorist must rush to the vip's. This isn't camping, the seals want to rescue them, guard the vip's at all costs. cover the cell, the stairs and the tunnel, get a sniper on the roof to surpress seal advancement. further back around the broken down buildings, take position, on the look out for seals hiding in the middle building. For gods sake anchor down by the garage and start pressing on on the left side, you know the seals are in that building down the path, grenade it and move. MOOOOOVE.
(vip rescued)
wtf? who was covering the hostages? hello? oh crap i'm all alone......
(insert anxiousness and fear as you rush to the extraction point to at least stop one of the hostages from getting away)
firefight, strafe left and right LOL.
So yeah, there is running and gunning but its mostly with an objective.
You could kill every terrorist but one, but if you don't save those hostages, you don't win. The socom games have always been objective based not kill/death ratio based.
Most of the fights happen in key places, vip room, bomb room, vantage points, .
Some of the best memories i ever had with my ps2
@ TechGear,
I think you're the dumbest thing I've ever heard of !
You damn Noob ! LMFAO
Nice try troll.....nice try.
Not everybody is a slave to CoD, besides, with a brand new release every twelve months a HD remake would be a waste of time.
I think games should be supported alot longer. I currently play Dota and CS which are both over 10 years old and still supported. I would be furious if i couldnt play those 2 games.
This is where I'd use my "Reach through the computer screen and punch the troll in the face" Card.
all they would have to do is add HD texture packs and add in the Multi player element upgraded. kinda like the legend of zelda ocarina 64 HD update on emulators. its simple
COD isn't even what it used to be either, its just rehash after rehash that the COD zombies eat up every year like dumb asses.
If you look at that Playstation Blog Share program that never really took off, it's been in the top 15 since it first started.
Such a large demand, and Sony for some just turns on the blinders. I don't get it.
Such great childhood memories :(
Just dish out a remastered Socom 2 with full online support, Sony. 99% of your Socom fans would jump for joy if you did this. It's not that hard to see.
Nothing has ever equated to victory like winning Enowapi as a SEAL.
He was clearly talking about the same timeframe back on the original xbox (not 360).
You love those facts, but you didn't even read what he said: "When SOCOM 2 came out..." That was 9 years ago.
Your comment is full of trollolololol.
Come back with 2003 numbers for XBL then compare.
Morganfell-You're right up until you mentioned XBL to an extent. When Halo 2 went online, the game started to change because then Rainbow Six and Halo ruled online. BTW, Enowapi was the worst map next to Darkness Falls. Everyone knows Desert Glory was the #1 map. That's why they always included it redone with every Socom.
don't you peeps get it. socom 2 was more popular than all of live when socom 2 was out an the hot ps2 title. most peeps moved to s3 when it came out.
for people that claim to be on the ball there sure are some here slow on the uptake.
well forza since you like to cross platforms when comparing numbers, do ya wanna talk cross gen sales? see how that works?
http://ps2.ign.com/articles...
I like how you act like Microsoft's little cheerleader in articles that have nothing to do with Microsoft...
I still find myself bringing up the old PS2 days, going over a friends house to play for hours and hours on end, just because I had a crappy internet connection.
Sad times.
SO many hours ive wasted on Socom 2 :(
Ive had two 360s fail. Samsung drive, and RROD.
I own two PS3s, a launch phat and a slim. So Im a gamer, not a fanboy.
Msft has abandoned the core gamer,
Msft doesnt care.
classic is all i can say.
i broke at least 12 - 15 sony headsets lolol
"Can you hear me?"
---silence---
"Can anyone hear me?"
---silence---
"God damn it!"
For sure
I hat that they forced us to play what they think we should play instead of what we kept asking for.
I can't play these new 12v12 respawn deathmatchs because there is little to no strategy. If I want to play a tactical shooter I guess I'll have to do it on a PC.
the fact that no other developer has integrated a lobby system like the Socom Series makes me sick that its all about money for all of these developers and publishers.
Video Games are dead.
The chat rooms also including a chat box. Open lobbys open customization for the maps and order you want.
So many good things and then it was pissed on and left outside for to long and got baked and became S:4
anyone who thinks either is more than mediocre is a moron and there opinion doesnt matter because they are stupid
let me ask you this, when did you quit playing after it came out? It's ok though, you had "fun" with whatever other shooter you were playing, right?
Socom fans should check out the current socom confrontation, flawed, so flawed, but as close to socom this gen as you will get. Socom 4 is a good game but not a socom game.
Socom fans should also check out Arma series on pc.
Sadly Konami is shutting down the metal gear online servers which is also a great tactical game.
Ghost Recon, socoms true competitor at one time is no more a good TTPS than SOCOM 4 is.
Honestly, the best we are going to get is Bad Company 2 which is a first person shooter but at least its not a run and gun.
Halo/Gears/CoD suck in my opinion sorry.
But using desert glory as an example.
As a seal, rush the left side, take over the broken wall, from there the building on the right or the tunnel/stairs that lead to the second floor where the VIP's could be found.
OR, rush the middle, take the first building, take position by the windows, rush the middle building, all floors for sniping positions. Take out the wood plank that leads to the roof in the building with the vips to prevent snipers from taking position on the roof.
Or, rush the right, take over that battered building on the right. move up and put pressure on the garage so the terrorist can't advance on you.
Flipside. Terrorist must rush to the vip's. This isn't camping, the seals want to rescue them, guard the vip's at all costs. cover the cell, the stairs and the tunnel, get a sniper on the roof to surpress seal advancement. further back around the broken down buildings, take position, on the look out for seals hiding in the middle building. For gods sake anchor down by the garage and start pressing on on the left side, you know the seals are in that building down the path, grenade it and move. MOOOOOVE.
(vip rescued)
wtf? who was covering the hostages? hello? oh crap i'm all alone......
(insert anxiousness and fear as you rush to the extraction point to at least stop one of the hostages from getting away)
firefight, strafe left and right LOL.
So yeah, there is running and gunning but its mostly with an objective.
You could kill every terrorist but one, but if you don't save those hostages, you don't win. The socom games have always been objective based not kill/death ratio based.
Most of the fights happen in key places, vip room, bomb room, vantage points, .
hold up yall.. I think I am about to cry....