Do Xbox gamers appreciate paying Xbox Live subs only to be bombarded with adverts - now with added Peters.
Yeh this sucks. Nowhere is safe now. You live with it or get all worked up. Sadly you can't opt in or out of these things. Although maybe MS will introduce an ad free Platinum tier subscription for Xbox Live in the future.
No, ads should pay for live and paid should have ZERO ads, period.
LMAO @ people still whining about Live.. MSClassicfail you DONT have to click on ANY ad period whether it's interactive or not. They wouldn't know because they are NOT a MS site and NEVER have been. It's all about hit and it always will be. Actually gamers on Live sould care less about ads that I'm not interested and and have no effect on ANY second of my gaming. I could cere less of N4G makes money on the ads to the right or if MS makes money off of ads that are on Live. But guess who does...lol I actually do love ads that are about gaming and movies and sometimes shows I'm into. Again, my choice to click on them.. But hey at the end of the day a few pebbles in the sand who don't own Xboxes or subscribe to Live will will hate, but it won't stop the 20 million who do subscribe. Same stuff different day..yawn. Evil
People annoyed by ads should keep in mind that people is dying in Iraq/Afghanistan and there is more things to worry about.
I get no ads on psn. Anyone who pays for this is an idiot. Not trolling. Just stating a fact.
@pushagree Live is better than PSN, fact. So keep your shitty free service. There is only a small box on the dashboard in the lower right hand corner that contains ads. It's not impeeding my enjoyment whatsoever. I couldn't tell you what the hell they advertise in that little space. You have never had Live so you don't know what youre talking about. Oh and fuck you and your idiot comment you troll son of a bitch.
Why do people make out like a fiver a month is a big deal?! Seriously, it is ridiculous. I can guarantee that for the majority of people (in employment) on here who complain about this fee would not even notice if a fiver disappeared from their account.. Probably 100% if it didn't show on the bank statement.... A fiver is what causes all these damned arguments! seriously,,, it is ridiculous. And on to the ads... Anyone who lives in the uk and watches tv is littered with ads (I can't comment on the us because I don't live there, but from the us sport I watch, I can only assume that it is similar for you guys). Bottom line is that tv ads get up in your face... A link that appears in the corner doesn't. And the irony of this whole ad argument is absolutely outrageous. Half the people complaining about ads probably wouldn't know this site existed were it not for them. That big game show that we are all waiting for... Yknow... E3.. Guess what?! That's a GIANT ADVERT! Most of the films that you go to see this year... How do you think you heard about them? C'mon guys... Let's stop this pointless battle. As soon as someone thinks the 360 has a prob, the ps guys jump in. As soon as someone thinks the ps has a prob, the ms guys jump in! What's the point?! More irony of this is that half of the culprits are doing so because they see tethers doing it... And they mindlessly follow suit... Just like being influenced by a frwaking advert! X
Oh look we gotta bad ass over here !! Apparently XBL p2p is better than PSN's p2p.../s
Can someone please tell me where to find all these ads? I can only see one ad telling me I can get XBL half price. If ps+ was half price I would want to know so whats the difference? Why are there articles about XBL ads WHEN I don't see my dashboard bombarded with ads... When I go to see a movie there are ads... When I park my car at a shopping mall there are ads... When I am driving to work there are ads..... But XBL is different right???
'Why are there articles about XBL ads WHEN I don't see my dashboard bombarded with ads' It's because MSworld doesnt actually own an Xbox360 or have Xbox Live..they make claims like this and play to the fan kids who eat up as real for hits. Again it was a 'fake' Xbox site from day one and nothing has changed. Either way the site is harmless as a baby because 360 owners and Xbox Live owners know the truth. Evil
There is a way to opt out. It's called playing games on one of the other ten systems you can play video games on. Edit; For the record thats ps3 psvita wii nds 3ds iphone android pc web and board/card games. All of which currently have awesome games being released and in development.
Why is everyone so up in arms over this. The ads are just banners, much like the one on the right of your screen -----------------> Personally, I'm okay with it, but mark my words, the day Ads start to disrupt gameplay or make the user wait for paid content is the day Xbox Live dies. My gaming PC is slowly weaning me off of the 360 anyway. ;P
@1.2.1 above me: Apparently you're one of the few people who hasn't discovered and hasn't become an avid user of AdBlock yet. You need to get on that.
well said Amazingmrbrock live doesn't offer anything special worth paying for. ms is a software company that also sells servers and server tools, their servers for the most part will always be better than most of the competition. the only thing my ps3 is missing is xchat which is overrated(I'm playing a game, leave me alone. and an ms patent) as well as drop in drop out game invite, would love this feature. that's it. not worth paying for, i get this on pc/steam hell ms offeres it for free on windows live only xbox console fools love to pay for it. ms dropped the windows live fees when gamers fought back and decided to not play on windows live, xbox fans said "no need to drop the fees, we willingly want to pay you for stuff that has been free for years"
Oh i'm very much aware of Adblock. I just don't have a bitch fit when I see an advert on the internet. 20 people disagree that I don't mind seeing Ads. Okay then.
@calibann "Why is everyone so up in arms over this. The ads are just banners, much like the one on the right of your screen ----------------->" That's in your browser where you are accessing a free website supported by nothing but ads. Ads on the dashboard are more akin to ads right on your desktop or in your task bar, something I'm sure you, or anyone would take issue with, whether they are just simple banners or not. It's not about what they are. It's where they are. Even on sites like N4G, advertisements are minimal. I see two banners on the side right now. Neither interfere with functionality. Still, millions use ad blockers. But, for example, on the games tab on my dashboard, I've got "My Games" and "Game Marketplace" panels. All my games, on my game console, under the games tab, is given a single panel out of the five. To me, that's ridiculous. One is used to get to the the game marketplace. The other three panels, including the biggest, are advertising something, whether it's third party or Xbox-related. One's advertising Diablo III for PC, one is advertising sales, and the main one is advertising Trials and Batman DLC. Instead of using that space for making things like my game stuff more accessible, like achievements, installed demos, installed games, and arcade games, they're used to make Microsoft's stuff more visible. That would be perfectly fine if it was limited to marketplace sections, but it's not. On almost every tab of the OS in MY game console, there is somebody trying to sell me something.
msxbox world are finally getting the leech-hits-from-n4g formula right. thats right, just write a blog, sorry article criticising ms or sony and watch the hit meter fill up.. well done! but, they have not got it 100% correct. because of the nature of n4gs community, most will not bother clicking the link, and will just join in the party. whereas something criticising sony will get them all clinking the link so they can attack the article. keep trying though @xboxhasnogamestroll leave it out. what and where are all these huge ads?? coz i certainly dont see or take any notice of them
Yeah because thats what the world needs an extra teer of being ripped off by Microsoft for services that are free on every other platform. Next gen I'm only buying one console and it'll be a console with free online gaming.
@Brosy How is it a fact? I fail to see this fact? Don't call something inferior when you try and justify having to pay for something that makes you watch adds.
It's not at all surprising. While Xbox gamers might like their Pizza, the only time I'd want to see something like this on the Dashboard is not as an advert but a useable app. Imagine it's Halo 4/Black Ops 2 launch night, you can launch your fast food app on Xbox 360 and make your purchase with Microsoft points, have it delivered to your door, and some virtual pizza for your Avatar to even enjoy. Err, or mayne NO! Heck, we even got Van Damme's mullet hair-do on the UK marketplace with all the Coors beer promotions.
I do that, kind of, on my ps3. I was playing killzone 3, went to web browser, "papa johns", ordered, went back to killzone, pizza delivered ! Without getting up! jus sayin :)
Microsoft probably thinks this is really cool where gamers cant get enough of these promotions. *Sigh*.
What do people think commercials are when watching cable? I here people complain about Hulu on PC having ads, and it's free, so we basically live in a world that no one will ever be satisfied living in, lol.
Ever heard of PSN? Free online with no ads. It's the same with Wii and most likely Wii U. Microsoft is greedy. Plain and simple.
That was not his point, He was saying that people don't even want a free service like HULU to have ads (How will it make money?)
This is business, maybe one day Unicef will get into the game business, but I doubt it. Seriously though, there are ads everywhere, have you ever watched a Baseball game on Fox? Ads are right in the batters box. This is the way things are, I pay a lot of money for NFL Sunday ticket, but they still show ads. Sony isn't free from this sort of thinking. http://www.complex.com/vide... Hopefully that patent never sees reality, but if it does, count me out. I wouldn't exactly say the Wii or Sony at the moment have ad free online, both highly advertise their own products and in Sony's case, their own shows. Its not a case of greedy Microsoft and the others not being greedy. People are just quick to jump on Microsoft because its a paid service, but that doesn't mean they cant run ads. Do ads suck? Sure, but its not going to hamper anything in the long run, and we might as well get used to them, they are just going to get worse.
Greedy? No, they're a business, a business that provides a fantastic service of which features non-frustrating advertising. GraveLord, you're well known as a Call of Duty fanboy, and yet you call Microsoft greedy for putting a few advertisements on to their massive online service? At least they change up Xbox Live quite regularly...
@Kingdom Come Yeah your right their not greedy for charging money every month and making their customers watch adds so they can make more money.
First of all, people started REALLY complaining about the HULU ads when they started running them even for HULU Plus members. Second of all, what kind of logic is it to suggest that we shouldn't be aggravated by this because it has become commonplace in a completely different industry? I think we can all agree that ads and commercials are just as goddamned annoying on TV as they will be here. It's just that nothing can be done at this point.
oh well. Never bothers me. its not like you're forced to watch the damn things and the sound is muted unless you highlight it. Cry babies gotta cry. Go ahead and disagree. Your time for adds on your "precious" PSN will happen soon enough and we'll all be laughing in your faces. Fuckin hypocrites lmao.
watch your mouth child!
Lol, no one said anything about the PSN possibly having ads in the future. Sure it could happen, but it hasn't yet so there's no point bringing that up. Bottom line is this; if I'm PAYING for something on Xbox, that I get FREE on PSN (online play). What is my incentive to keep paying for Live? Then they introduce ads to those who are PAYING for their service which I can STILL get free on PSN. Honestly, looking at it that way it's hard to say you'd pick Live over PSN unless you're delusional or just like paying money and being inconvenienced. o_o
Looks like someone is having a hissy fit, poor baby.
No one is laughing now, but only stating the obvious. Ads on a paid service like XBL is ridiculous. As for the hypothetical future hypocrites,yeah...those guys are terrible.
Bombarded w/ ads? The ads are located in the lower right corner box of the dashboard, which is also a small box you don't need to click on...How is that bambarding the user with ads? It is sony that just lisenced ads when you pause a game...Now that is bombarding the user with ads. Not displaying one ad in a box you don't need to click on.
Yep, the double standards here are MINDBLOWING. Just imagine if that had been Microsoft's patent for in-game advertisements. We would LITERALLY never hear the end of it. Microsoft's ruining gaming!!!! Now of course, people are showing outrage toward Sony everywhere outside of N4G, but this site seems to be like a bubble where everything is the opposite of reality. Not the news stories, but the comments sections.
Sony hasn't implemented anything like that yet. It was only a patent that'll probably never see the light of day. If it DOES try and pull that crap, you can bet even as a PS3/Vita owner I will be pissed beyond measure.
Double standards? There are so many douchebag, circle jerking XDF members on this site, that's MINDBLOWING. Ads are ok. Paying to play online is ok. Lack of anything exclusive worth a damn, besides the trinity (Halo, Gears and Forza), ok. Kinect is awesome, even though there really isn't anything worth playing, let alone buying. Nintendo and Sony care about gamers and money. Microsoft? Money.
Sony hasn't implemented anything nor they have announced anything to do with ads. While M$ has a new one already will continue to add more. Cry me a river, bec that's the truth.
I think you may have missed the release of Sony's wonderous new patent whereby they insert product placement right into your games. Should be right up your alley, let me know how that goes.
^I think you miss the part about "not" implementing anything yet. Filing a patent does not automatically mean its on its way to implementation.
I wont be renewing my Gold this September, I wont be duped into paying for P2P or ads in my face again.
Ho hum, people arguing about this again? I'm aware that there are ads in the Dashboard, but like most other sane people I don't bother with them, and they don't get in my way. Know what else you pay for that comes with ads? Cable TV, movies at the theater, any magazine or newspaper subscription - that's life.
Do I have to explain it again? As many people keep bringing this up, I suppose I do. Your cable bill pays for your connection to the cable service. It DOES NOT pay for the creation of television shows. Commercials do that. Your ticket at the movie theater doesn't cover all the costs involved with either making the movie OR running the theater. Likewise, ads in newspapers and magazines are what pay for all the things necessary to have those forms of media created. Or do you really think a $20 a year subscription is enough to fund a magazine or paper? Xbox Live is the closest to cable: you're paying for access to someone else's content(the servers for the game on Live, which would be television channels with cable). The difference is that there's no way to (legally) get all those cable channels for free: there are no cable providers who don't charge you. Microsoft would be a cable company who charges you in the US(the 360), but doesn't charge you in Europe(PC). And all the other cable and satellite providers don't charge you, either. Microsoft's cable comes with Picture-in-Picture, though, which apparently makes it worth paying for.
Yeah, wow, that's a great explanation. My point was that I don't really give a flying fark about commercials on the dashboard so this whole debate is as pointless to me as bitching about things you have no control over. Hey wait...
Seriously the 360's dashboard is the worst thing of the console. Like they didn't make enough money with the xGOld subscription and MS points (which is a total scam btw) now they have to put ads everywhere. I mostly game on PC but if I do buy a next gen console it won't be a microsoft one that's for sure.
How on Earth do the ads on the dashboard negatively affect me?! You can completely ignore them with ease. It's not like an ad on YouTube that plays before your video and makes you wait. I never even look at the Xbox LIVE ads and could not tell you any brands that are advertising even though I see the dashboard every day. Now we get to hear people who have never used Xbox LIVE once in their life complain about how AWFUL the ads are. Oh, how will we go on living?
That is not the point is it, why are you defending them :L since you are paying premium for your service you should not have to sit through ads, it would make sense for people who are on ps3 had to see ads after their service is free.
But you don't have to sit through the ads. The ads are only in a box in the corner and are muted. You can completely ignore them and they don't interfere with you gaming experience. You're acting like Microsoft is forcing the user to watch these ads which is completely false.
I am so jelly of Xbox gamers right now! I guess you really do get what you pay for..
Later we will start seeing less people on Xbox Live and more on PSN and others. If this is what I get for paying for Xbox Live, then it is worthless.
Bombarded? I don't see any bombardment. The first box, the first cursor the first option is on the "play game" window.
I pay around about £70 a MONTH for Sky... Sky does nothing but spam me with tonnes of adverts on their own channels for 7 odd minutes at a time every 15 minutes and in their letters they just love to send out. Thats bombardment.
Ads are everywhere. Now they popping up on my Android phones. That's how companies make money. The're not as bad on the new dashboard versus the old one. And besides, you have to scroll on the ad to view it.
WTF do you care what I do with my money? I will continue to spend it how I please.
More power to ya! Why don't you go and buy some spam email while you're at it.
Anytime you buy something off the internet, you're opening yourself to ads....people apparently have perfect lives if they worry about spending approx 3.33 a month and having an ad that you don't hear or see in your face unless you choose to press a on the icon. Eh, must be nice to have a life that simple
and where i live xbox live costs 70 euros without half the content/services from us xbox live. so glad i play on pc/ps3...
I heard these adds can be blocked through your router. M$ still sucks for displaying them.
You seriously...have...to be kidding me. Xbox Live ads...are a small box in the corner of your screen you don't have to even look at. So yeah...you don't want to pay because there is a box in the corner of your dashboard giving it a more interactive look for aesthetics...but you'll appreciate a free service that got attacked and went down for a month and some change? Cmon...I pay for Xbox live because of the fuller lobbies, the more in to it gamers, the longevity of online participation in games...games on PsN die FAST, the much more competitive and social players...sure some are kids but some are guys I've gamed with since 2005 on XBL...the community is one the PsN no matter how you twist it cannot touch. Rainbow Six Vegas 2 on XBL is still a warzone...PsN...no. Killzone 2 my most anticipated game back when it released...had a following for sometime then turned into a dull nightmare..the equivalent to playing with human player bots...thats the feel I get from the PsN and its been like that since 2006 unless I'm playing CoD or games with post release hype.
I like gaming ads but not the rest. If all the 'ads' were game previews and video reviews it would be great.
Remember the good old days of $50 XBL, no ads, no garbage avatars, and no Kinect? That's when I seriously stopped gaming on Xbox. So what happened? Well, you got a $10 price hike, tons of ads, fake Miis, and a $150 gimmick forced down your throat... But at least you have cross game chat, right?
i don't mind targeted ads if they filter some of the more irrelevant ads out. I'd rather companies find additional ways to make revenue, then end up let say $6.4Bn in losses for a year.
Cause they're making money off of you twice
I never really notice those ads. It may be because I don't CLICK on them. People need to find things to bitch about because they heard someone bitch about it. If they start running them before your MP game starts, you have a point. Or your video. But sitting in the far corner where no one should be going unless they are planning to click on it is just looking to bitch.
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although they are not in your face as some people try to make it seem, they shouldnt be there on a paid service.
You can argue whether there should be ads in a paid for service. You can't argue the fact no one is bombarded. Its a tiny screen in the lower right side of the dashboard. You really have to go out of your way to see it. In the end, I see a lot of live VS psn debate. IMO, it comes down to whether that 5.00 a month *less if you shop around* is worth party chat. That seems to be the major difference between the two (both have fb, netflix, downloadable games, demos, so forth and so on) For me, PChat is a must have feature compared to PSN. I don't think I go a day or two without it. Great for friends to bs when playing whatever, and it keeps you out from some of the vicious or annoying people in online lobbies without having to constantly mute or block ppl. To each their own.