What to expect from E3 2012 (no, not Xbox 720 and PS4)
VG247: “Teh reel next-gen” will have to wait. E3 2012 will be a re-run of last year, with triple-A bully-boys dominating software as Nintendo steals the platform-holder show with Wii U.
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What makes you say that? I know it probably won't happen but according to the history of the brand a new console is released every 6 years (1994, 2000 and 2006).
Thats because MS and Sony decide when its right for console gamers to get an upgrade. Console gamers as such are limited to what Sony and MS feel is good for them.
Wasnt the bungie contract telling about a 720 port of destiny by 2013?
Perhaps we wont hear about the new consoles yet but you can bet anything that the ps4 and 720 will be shown behind closed door this E3.
Aside when the WiiU lands the other two companies will rush to the finish line specially in MS case where theyll even release a shoddy product in order to get there first.
Everybody saying no instead of maybe makes me thinks its more likely than ever for the ps4 anyway onto games except borderlands 2 im getting sick of sequels for consoles year after year. We are basically seeing the same games with new levels/weapons/characters etc.. as consoles have near hit there peak now and it seems only naughty dog can get something a bit more out of ps3.
So its pretty much massive expansion packs each year round. This is why i preferred JRPGs back before they went CRAP. Each was differnt even Final Fantasy but they changed to fit a new demographic.
I remember when I had ps2 on its life end cycle (it still is not ended in many countries) , I had like 80 + games, many of them (most of them) where the best games I played in my life!
I just dont feel like it with my ps3.. its not the end it could do so much more.. the developers must think harder to entertain us! It goes for all consoles, any of them still could show lots of masterpieces!
Its a waste of time, and just flat out stupid to reveal consoles that are a year, and half or more away. Sony's E3 2005, and E3 2006 eliminated any possibility that we will ever see a console revealed a year, and half before launch again.
I can't believe people are so hyped up about new consoles. The industry just started developing really good games for the recent gen consoles from the past couple years. Let them max out!
There are still 6-7 years to max them out on your console. You can go do that while I play new generation. That's the whole point of the 10-12+ year lifespan of these consoles. Well for Sony at least.
@deadlyfire your correct the ps2 was still going strong 4 years after the ps3 launched it only stopped production worldwide 3 years ago. Its still being made in Japan in small quantity's I hear.
PS3 will still be selling when the PS4 is out and games will still continue to release, just like it was with the PS2>PS3 transition. (Which for some reason is still selling?)
Point is you can still play PS3 games while others migrate to PS4. It'll take a while to build a decent catalog anyway.
I would love to See Sony come out with something even just a little bit better than the WiiU just to get into the market, sell it cheap, no more than $299 and get the gaming business take off like a zeppelin during WW2.
nintendo - wii u news (price, games), 3ds games Sony - ps3 games, vita games, maybe a surprise who knows microsoft - services(that i don't care about), kinect (something else i don't care about), showing off 3rd party games like their exclusives, the obvious 2 1st party games they have in their whole stable.
out of the 3 i only care about what the first two will show, the other one i just don't care for whatsoever.
Sony has always been very forward to the public with what they are doing. I don't expect them to hide anything from E3 2012. I wouldn't count out surprise PS4 Graphic expectations videos like E3 2005 videos.
Anyone remember KILLZONE E3 2005? :P I remember a whole reel of games being displayed. Oh yes here it is. About 5:14 min and onward. F1, Tekken, Red Dead, DMC 4, KILLZONE 2, GT 5, Gundum http://www.youtube.com/watc... + http://www.youtube.com/watc... with Resistance?, Ni Oh, Genji, Fifth Phanton Saga, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Killing Day, Motorstorm, Eyedentify. That is 15-16 titles. Despite fact that some didn't really make it. Sony promising 20 new experiences at this year's E3.
At least that is my hope. You know 20 New game experiences are promised for E3 2012 from Sony. I can't count that many PS3/Vita titles that are coming that I would expect at E3 2012 conference. I am expecting PS3/Vita/PS4 mix. Although if the 20 New experiences are all PS4 games I would be floored. :D
Like E3 2005. If history repeats itself. Which in life it often does at times. PSP Got a big showing at E3 2004, then E3 2005 PS3 was shown to the world. Well E3 2011 PS Vita got a big showing, and E3 2012 PS4 shown off to the world?
Also Microsoft showed a new Halo at E3 2004, then New Xbox at E3 2005. Well E3 2012 we have Halo 4, E3 2013 we have Xbox 3.
Just look at history!!! Its not that hard to figure out what will happen!!
Well Sony said they want there console out before MS so if they want to show it off at E3 this is the year to do it. Like at 2005 E3 although both were there 360 was in playable format with an Alan Wake demo and PS3 was not until 2006.
We all know developers have the dev kits in hand already. Which mean first party studios most likely have begun working on new games for a while. I don't think its that far fetched to expect a possible announcement of ps4 as the next console to come out.
Another Nintendo win. I will be excited for everything they are doing. while Sony is doing the same mundane stuff they did last year. Hope they really announce next gen though.
I expect tech demos From a few developers running on close to next gen specs, but I can't see an announcement from either sony or microsoft them selves.
I doubt that We'll hear about about target renders being shown behind closed doors. Screenshot leaks will surface just prior to WiiU's launch to dissuade those waiting on next gen systems from Micro/Sony.
But I agree with both of you on one issue; neither Sony nor Microsoft will be the ones doing it.
The Last of Us and God of War: Ascension gameplay, Agent full reveal and some hardcore Move games. FFX HD release date on PS3 and Vita and 2 built-in analog stick 3DS would be nice as well.
Actually it's Steam. I think since Sony built a partnership with Valve last year when Portal 2 was released. If it is Steam though, I feel Steam integration would almost eliminate the point of the PS Store; if not eliminate then overshadow.
If the rumours that the next gen will be released in 2013 are to be believed then they have to be announced during this e3. There's no smoke without fire but the console rumours are too weak and not numerous to indicate an e3 reveal of the ps4/Xbox next month. Why do people believe they will be released next year without an unveiling this year? It doesn't work like that. If the ps4 were to release next year, then it would be announced this e3. I've always said the ps4 would release in 2014, unfortunately.
Sony has promised this for E3 2012 “the future of gameplay and innovation” and the “launch of more than 20 new gaming experiences”
That kinda sounds like PS4 + Launch title group. Idk maybe its just me. E3 2005 I remember hearing similar words.
Also its on their OFFICIAL E3 site as their E3 focus. Check it out yourself. Read the paragraph. First line. "Join PlayStation executives as we announce the future of gameplay and innovation." That pretty much confirms it with me. http://www.sceainvites.com/...
The "future of gameplay and innovation" could mean games that have features/plot/etc. that distinguish them from all other games( Something Sony is known for doing). So they could just be talking about the new exclusives in general OR new features for the Vita/ PS3. Even though it seems like it's time for a new console, I don't think Sony and Microsoft feel that way just yet. Next year or 2014, then yes.
Any talk of future of innovation/gameplay typically means new console around E3. Especially if its your main focus. I know it means one of two things. A new device instead of controller or Two a new console + new device.
Not saying it will launch in 2012. Just Sony will spill some beans on it. Give a few game title hints, an idea of specs, and when we could see the console. I expect no earlier than Q4 2013 for the PS4 launch itself.
I would agree that now's the time but it's just not going to happen. Nintendo's wii u showing was quite minimal but the rumours prior to e3 was crazy. That's not the case this year which leads me to believe they will be released in 2014. They could mention the console and their angle on it but honestly it wont be anything exciting like demos etc.
solid rundown... This was a pretty solid rundown of E3 imo. They didn't go out on any limbs with it (which I do like to see atleast one or two "here is our crazy prediction bits) but it was solid enough and reasonable in its expectations that I felt its worth the read.
I give up With Microsoft, knowing them their only announcements will be more Kinect related games and Halo 4 and maybe some exclusive timed deals and maybe talk about Windows phone.
What would get my attention is a PGR5 release and a vid but im not clutching to any straws on that or anything else.
Sony will have more to talk about, probably more exclusives and PS Vita related stuff.
Thing is seeing how this gen for Microsoft has been a rather serious lack of top exclusives what can we expect from next gen? More remakes? Gears 1,2,3 remade, Halo 1 remade again and who knows.
Remakes from last gen I can understand as imo last gen had the best selection of games on all platforms.
Given the current economic climate it does not make much business sense to bring out a potential product that would cost a fortune to manufacture within its first few years of the product life cycle, lets say at $400+, and who would actually buy it? (apart from early adopters). I also believe the cost of specialised electronic components largely restrict what firms will decide to do. These prices have largely been affected by disasters such as the nuclear-power fiasco in Japan thus causing a sparsity effect. I expect Nintendo to be selling their next-gen console at a loss combined with technology that is already common in the market place. I wouldn't be surprised to see a PS3 price-cut, perhaps a new model which might be even smaller? Xbox might hint a new-tech but its all about Halo 4 I suspect! Maybe an enhanced Xbox-live service or even a handheld? I just hope E3 was better than last-year:)
I don't think we really need the PS4 yet since the PS3 is still churning out tons of exclusives, but it's probably best to release it by Q4 2013 so Nintendo doesn't get too big of a head start. If the PS4 and Xbox 720 are releasing in 2013, wouldn't it make sense to reveal them at this years E3?
Sony is already gonna be strapped for time with all the PS3 and Vita games they have to show off. Maybe they'll just make a brief PS4 announcement and hold their own event later to fully reveal it.
Black Ops 2 will be shown at Microsoft´s press conference, and they'll announced timed-exclusive DLC. Then they're gonna show lots of kinect games, and finish off with announcing Kinect support for Halo 4.
THEN STOP TALKING BOUT next GEN CONSOLES already damn it. It haven't been that long of any them to come out with a new console. i don't want to spend another 400$ on a new system right now
If u want to stay current gen that's COOL! But Myself along with others have been supporting xb360 and ps3 since 2005/06. We are READY for new console. I will say ps3 can wait a second for me but xb720 can come NOW! xb360 is SO DATED in hardware that i hope Microsoft announce NEW hardware (XB720) at e3.
The Wii U doesn't interest me in the least, but I do expect and hope to hear about more things coming to the Vita, including how it and the PS3 together will counter what the Wii U will be able to do.
As for a new Xbox and Playstation.. I kinda hope not. Money is tight as is. I'll be fine if I'm given another year to save my pennies.
Sony will annouce that it has teamed up with WWE and will release a WWE app on the PS3 where you can order and watch WWE pay per views, similar to the UFC app on XBOX Live.
Black Ops II for PS Vita. That should sell 4 million handhelds easily. It's an awesome system that everyone should at least try out at their local stores. My favorite game right now is Wipeout 2048.
Gearbox has just sent out a statement saying WiiU is a powerful,powerful machine and it has just much more modern tech as well than ps3/360,and that WiiU Aliens is the version to get because of better visuals and content/controls.
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I expect Sony to be focused on Vita, Nintendo on Wii U and Microsoft on Kinect + one exclusive shooter
What makes you say that? I know it probably won't happen but according to the history of the brand a new console is released every 6 years (1994, 2000 and 2006).
Perhaps we wont hear about the new consoles yet but you can bet anything that the ps4 and 720 will be shown behind closed door this E3.
Aside when the WiiU lands the other two companies will rush to the finish line specially in MS case where theyll even release a shoddy product in order to get there first.
So its pretty much massive expansion packs each year round. This is why i preferred JRPGs back before they went CRAP. Each was differnt even Final Fantasy but they changed to fit a new demographic.
I know i won't be disappointed with being able to see more of Last of Us and God of War but the PS4 is long overdue for an announcement.
I hope Sony does not fail to deliver.
I remember when I had ps2 on its life end cycle (it still is not ended in many countries)
, I had like 80 + games, many of them (most of them) where the best games I played in my life!
I just dont feel like it with my ps3.. its not the end it could do so much more.. the developers must think harder to entertain us!
It goes for all consoles, any of them still could show lots of masterpieces!
:-D.....
Point is you can still play PS3 games while others migrate to PS4. It'll take a while to build a decent catalog anyway.
nintendo - wii u news (price, games), 3ds games
Sony - ps3 games, vita games, maybe a surprise who knows
microsoft - services(that i don't care about), kinect (something else i don't care about), showing off 3rd party games like their exclusives, the obvious 2 1st party games they have in their whole stable.
out of the 3 i only care about what the first two will show, the other one i just don't care for whatsoever.
Anyone remember KILLZONE E3 2005? :P I remember a whole reel of games being displayed. Oh yes here it is. About 5:14 min and onward. F1, Tekken, Red Dead, DMC 4, KILLZONE 2, GT 5, Gundum http://www.youtube.com/watc... + http://www.youtube.com/watc... with Resistance?, Ni Oh, Genji, Fifth Phanton Saga, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Killing Day, Motorstorm, Eyedentify. That is 15-16 titles. Despite fact that some didn't really make it. Sony promising 20 new experiences at this year's E3.
At least that is my hope. You know 20 New game experiences are promised for E3 2012 from Sony. I can't count that many PS3/Vita titles that are coming that I would expect at E3 2012 conference. I am expecting PS3/Vita/PS4 mix. Although if the 20 New experiences are all PS4 games I would be floored. :D
Like E3 2005. If history repeats itself. Which in life it often does at times. PSP Got a big showing at E3 2004, then E3 2005 PS3 was shown to the world. Well E3 2011 PS Vita got a big showing, and E3 2012 PS4 shown off to the world?
Also Microsoft showed a new Halo at E3 2004, then New Xbox at E3 2005. Well E3 2012 we have Halo 4, E3 2013 we have Xbox 3.
Just look at history!!! Its not that hard to figure out what will happen!!
because it's not going to happen.
don't you mean microsoft?
From a few developers running on close to next gen specs, but I can't see an announcement from either sony or microsoft them selves.
We'll hear about about target renders being shown behind closed doors. Screenshot leaks will surface just prior to WiiU's launch to dissuade those waiting on next gen systems from Micro/Sony.
But I agree with both of you on one issue; neither Sony nor Microsoft will be the ones doing it.
*Casually walks away from article*
FFX HD release date on PS3 and Vita and 2 built-in analog stick 3DS would be nice as well.
Onlive/Gaikai coming to PS3/Vita?
That's the biggest news from this article.
Why do people believe they will be released next year without an unveiling this year?
It doesn't work like that.
If the ps4 were to release next year, then it would be announced this e3.
I've always said the ps4 would release in 2014, unfortunately.
E3 2004 - PSP, E3 2005 - PS3
E3 2011 - PS Vita, E3 2012 - PS4?
Sony has promised this for E3 2012
“the future of gameplay and innovation” and the “launch of more than 20 new gaming experiences”
That kinda sounds like PS4 + Launch title group. Idk maybe its just me. E3 2005 I remember hearing similar words.
Also its on their OFFICIAL E3 site as their E3 focus. Check it out yourself. Read the paragraph. First line. "Join PlayStation executives as we announce the future of gameplay and innovation." That pretty much confirms it with me.
http://www.sceainvites.com/...
Not saying it will launch in 2012. Just Sony will spill some beans on it. Give a few game title hints, an idea of specs, and when we could see the console. I expect no earlier than Q4 2013 for the PS4 launch itself.
Nintendo's wii u showing was quite minimal but the rumours prior to e3 was crazy.
That's not the case this year which leads me to believe they will be released in 2014.
They could mention the console and their angle on it but honestly it wont be anything exciting like demos etc.
This was a pretty solid rundown of E3 imo. They didn't go out on any limbs with it (which I do like to see atleast one or two "here is our crazy prediction bits) but it was solid enough and reasonable in its expectations that I felt its worth the read.
With Microsoft, knowing them their only announcements will be more Kinect related games and Halo 4 and maybe some exclusive timed deals and maybe talk about Windows phone.
What would get my attention is a PGR5 release and a vid but im not clutching to any straws on that or anything else.
Sony will have more to talk about, probably more exclusives and PS Vita related stuff.
Thing is seeing how this gen for Microsoft has been a rather serious lack of top exclusives what can we expect from next gen? More remakes? Gears 1,2,3 remade, Halo 1 remade again and who knows.
Remakes from last gen I can understand as imo last gen had the best selection of games on all platforms.
Sony is already gonna be strapped for time with all the PS3 and Vita games they have to show off. Maybe they'll just make a brief PS4 announcement and hold their own event later to fully reveal it.
Exclusives will continue right through, it's what Sony has always done.
As for a new Xbox and Playstation.. I kinda hope not. Money is tight as is. I'll be fine if I'm given another year to save my pennies.
ENOUGH SAID.
Bring on a $199 PS3 and a $149 Arcade X360.