Bungie wrote: "So, yeah. While we’re not ready to show you what we’ve been working on, we can reconfirm that we are hard at work on our new universe. We can’t wait for you to see it."
More timed exclusive BS.
Releasing the first chapter of a story as an exclusive kills the future of the game on the other console. Timed exclusivity might save the day.
So now we have rumors that Rare, Lionhead, Epic, Crytek, Turn 10, and Bungie are working on next-gen Xbox games.
@sack_boi: yeah but we already know some not bound by contrace are planning to go multiplatform not stay exclusive whereas ALL the sony 1st party devs of which there are many HAVE to stay ps3 exclusive because sony own them (well they could make crossplatform games but only if sony said so and why would they?) Anyway I shall base my purchase on the pricing, value for money, the specs of the machine and if it's future proof and then any CONFIRMED exclusive games :P
@ Sack_boi I don't understand... shouldn't we expect video game development companies to be working on games for the next video game consoles? That's like saying - man, next year's PCs look really good because Adobe, Google, etc are rumored to be working on stuff for them.
Or they could just release it at the same time..
@extermin8or - Defensive much? Jeez...
kinda dumb, bungie could double their fan base, a lot of ps3'ers are going to be jagged about this. only way i buy a game delayed for money is if it has a lot of extra content.... or if its amazing. or ill just buy it used to stick it to them
How about a simultaneous release? Timed-exclusive isn't saving anything. In fact, it alienates a huge part of the PS3 core gaming community. Double the platforms = Double the hype = Double the sales
Hopefully they will pull back the curtain at E3.. I'm a huge Bungie fan Bungie has spent a decade on the Xbox and know the Xbox 360 better than any developer out there. It'll be interesting to see what they pull off this late in the 360s cycle. I love how Bungie didn't make a big deal about the reveal. Evil
So that's either a smart move or dumb.
'They did it to not compete with all the other PS3 Exclusives coming out' LOL..name one exclusive Bungie has EVER been scared of..especially this gen. Sony got some cool games that we all speculate will come out..but a Bungie shooter being scared of 'Last of Us' or even 'Last Guardian' not gonna happen. Completely different lanes. Bungie owns MP..Xbox Live was perfect for them to reconvene where they left off post Halo.. Evil
Let me guess the game isn't releasing on your system of choice or you would sing a diffrent tune. I hope ms does this with a lot of 3rd party games next gen and make the competiton wait as the comments on here are priceless. It could be sonys studios vs the 3rd party studios on the 720 that put content on ms system first. Its not a bad idea and ms has the cash to do it where sony barely can keep there doors open.
Man, third party studios just hurt theirselves with exclusives, especially if they want to build an IP. Third parties have the best selling franchises (GTA, COD, AC) and cost lots to develope. I prefer to share a game with another console (or 2) even having the worse developed version, than seeing a studio shut down or in troubles.
Depends on the quality of thw game look at mass effect and demon souls.
Microsoft are just extremely apt at running a business. From a gamers perspective Sony are the better company, but microsoft are just brutal in their tactics for winning the gaming market. They could really crush the playstation4 next gen with third party exclusivity combined with their own gimmicks that will also win over the casual market.
@pandaboy yeah they did that this time around and the only place that it's paid of in terms of market share is the usa? :S Ironically nintendo have a larger portion than both sony and MS :p
Sony has no issues keeping their *videogame* door open though, Jazz. It's among their more successful lines. It's why they can afford 15+ studios and exclusive 3rd party support this gen' from the likes of EA (DeadSpace,Dante's,MOH,NFS ,SSX) Valve (Portal2), Ubisoft (SC/PoP HD, AC), 2K Games (BioShock Infinite), Warners (MortalKombat), Rocksteady (Arkham Asylum), Rockstar (LA Noire) plus a new handheld. 3rd party exclusivity as a whole has been waning and will continue to do so. With all the console exclusive 3rd party series MS lost this gen (Saints Row, BioShock, Metro, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Mass Effect, FarCry, AceCombat, StarOcean, GTA DLC etc) and lost Arcade exclusives like CastleCrashers, Limbo and Braid...there's no trends indicating MS will suddenly pull a 180 and monopolise anything other than apps.
@P_bomb ... They can afford to keep all those studios but can't afford to keep their own employees. Sony isn't just a gaming company like many of us like to think.
@Edward75 Neither is MS, which makes the initial dig a bit unnecessary. Microsoft started its own 5000 person layoff in 2009 http://www.slashgear.com/mi... and more recently cut another 200 people in February http://www.huffingtonpost.c... . The focus should be gaming divisions here, not the failures of Zunes and Vaios. *shrugs*
"It could be sonys studios vs the 3rd party studios on the 720" that's just SAD! what makes you think that 3rd parties will start making games exclusively for MS? Bungie has a history with MS and AV is sleeping in bed together with MS over CoD thus it makes sense that they will make some exclusive deal with MS but that's all about it! hoping for EA, Ubisoft, Capcom, Square Enix, Take 2, KONAMI, Namco Bandai, Disney etc to make the same move is just pure naive when no other games have sold as much as CoD and alienating the Sony crowd will only hurt themselves!
@Jazz4108 It's so nice when gamers can come together in support of one another in times like this. Wouldn't it be a dick move for some asshole to rub something like this in the face of someone who doesn't prefer the console the game is being released on first? 'Cause we're all gamers, right? And we are all entitled to our opinion about what we play games on, right? Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that competition breeds better products. Or that wishing for one company to fail, thus forcing all of its paying customers to have to spend even more money on someone else's product, is the mark of a true asshole. By the way, all of that up there, total sarcasm. 3rd party exclusives are bullshit, and anyone who supports them should question why they consider themselves gamers.
dude first off u couldnt be more wrong,if anything ms is down in there game division yet again by 200 mill.where as sony is a whole company that pretty much splits there income whether it be tvs labtops hell there movie production.so how bout getting some facts before assuming or is that why u only have 1 bubble?!
trust me if this game succeed activision will start their milking machines.
Dude its not a matter of "if" its a matter of when... Remember this is Bungie we're talking about here....
The contract states a new game every other year (2013/2015/2017/2019) and an expansion the year after the game releases (2014/2016/2018/2020). So if you count an expansion as a game, Bungie will be making a new game every year for 8 years.
sells 5 million in the first six months on the market and scores 90 or above on game rankings online if not the bonus and the publishing deal for 10 years is void!
It's also expected to be an MMO. I don't know how Activision expects an exclusive MMO to sell more than 5 million in 6 months. Most multiplatform games don't even sell that much, and MMOs don't tend to do well on consoles. The only saving grace is that it's developed by Bungie.
Gta was timed....
No, just the dlc, and look how that turned out.
game is called Tiger and its multiplat game
Well if sony wants to combat the timed exclusiveness of the games they can release the PS4 around the time the time exclusive contracts are up. Kind of like what happened this gen.
confused , microsoft let them go . then bungie does an exclusive game for ms. doesnt make sense . to me its just dumb.
MS didnt let them go, Bungie wanted independance from MS and MS gave it to them...Bungie have stated that there is no ill will towards MS, they just wanted more options
OK. So I can't say for sure what I'll do when this game comes out because its at least a year out.. But if they alienate the ps3 and release this game a year after it arrives on the 360, then I won't purchase it if I don't own a 360. The contract clearly states that the ps3 version can not exceed the 360 version, even with the ps3 version being released a year later!! What that tells me is that the ps3 version will be dated tech since it will be the exact same game only released a year later. If that's the case bungie should just stay with MS.
If any of you don't own both consoles by now, then you have no room to bitch and complain about timed exclusivity. You don't need to make 700k a year to afford both of them, especially by now for gods sake.
I own a 360, but play mostly on my ps3. Im just still trying to justify keeping it.
I bet the people at Activision and Bungie are super pissed now, especially since it was suppose to come out in 2013. They probably wanted to reveal it a lot later to create hype for the game, now that opportunity is lost.
They were probably just going to reveal it at Microsoft's E3 briefing next month.
Its really because of Activision that all this info came about. Its because of their case with Infinity Ward that they need to show this contract in court.
I bet Microsoft was saving this game for their exclusive reveal in E3 2012.
Probably... but, the game isn't even the interesting part. The interesting part is the ridiculous contract Activision have Bungie held to and the fact Bungie agreed to it.
what about the 4 pack dlc thing thats gotta be even worse
Its sad to see Activision doing these types of contract, The Game must sell 5 million plus or they'll drop it? WHT I think its Activision who comes up with Timed Exclusive games to sell more on 360 first, after that they'll cash in PS3 gamers.
Well as much as its easy to blame Activision I bet most AAA third party contracts are similar. We just don't normally get to see them. And like PT says.. Bungie agreed to it.
What!? This contract is sheer briliance from Bungie side: Most importantly they retain the IP, they get all the funds they need, the get a bonus if the games gets a good score and they get a good share of the profits from each game and expansion while not risking their own money. This contract is a dream contract for a developer (assuming you can deliver)! The whole reason is was exposed in court was because ex-IW heads wanted to show the jury how much more generous the Bungie contract is then the deal they had with activision. If the games will sell as good as Halo (and considering they're multiplat they have a chance to sell even better), bungie's share of the profits will net them hundreds of millions if not billions.
It seems like Bungies new came is going to go the same path call of duty series has been treading
Like I said before... Bungie just made a deal with the devil
Talk about bad timing lol
as the pink panther guy says *juustice is served*
Hey Activision, whatcha gonna do?
Make billions of dollars?
Whatcha gonna do?
I guess you could say it was bad luck, but I think Bungie saw it as Destiny.
good one lol
Before the game is even released it looks milked already. Goodjob bungie you went from a lesser evil(M$) to the prime evil (activsion) not buying. Hope this bombs so badly.
Having planned sequels are how franchises are made. If it does bomb in the first installment they would stop production, simple as that. Did you think Mass Effect was planned as a single game at first? No. It was set up to be a trilogy.
LOL Activision and MS are joining up and silently destroying ps3 lol..
Yeah, because it's worked so far hasn't it /s
Still won't work! Lol is this the best Microsoft can do timed exclusives LMAO!!!!!
DK, Your account is not even old enough to make a statement like that tbh. You have no idea you're just assuming. U assumed in every line of your post. You need to work on that assume everything leaves you with nothing but your ____ in your hand and hungry.
let me guess, its SINGLE PLAYER aspect is gonna require you to be connected ONLINE all the time just to play it, DRM style, no thank you if thats the case.
No, this isn't a PC game.
Oblivion DLC for the 360 and FinalFight:Dbl Impact for the PS3 were already DRM locked, requiring an online connection.
You and me both know mananimal is (rightfully) upset about the whole Diablo 3/Error 37 situation. Also you need an online connection to download double impact from PSN and to download the Oblivion DLC from XBLA so since you've already connected to the internet before it's not far fetched to think you have internet. With disc based games, it's not guaranteed that you are hooked up to the internet and such a company will never require you to be connected.
Doesnt need to be, Xbox live in its self is abit of DRM-Lite, so Im assuming, as this is for sure a NEXT GEN Game from Bungie, the ol Micro-NAZI(soft) is gonna go full blown DRM with there AAA titles, even with the SINGLE PLAYER aspects, greedy corporate pricks can kick rocks, I aint nobodies bitch, NOPE.
Bungie? More like Bung-eye amirite?
I'm rooting hard for this to fail. Screw Activision.
And bs like this is why i wont buy it (one less customer) and ill make sure my buddies dont buy this bs either. Didnt buy mw3 for activisions shady crap and did not regret it one bit, so i wouldnt think twice on this one. Little by little ppl open their etea and dont support this and yes makes for less sales. Too many great ps3 games to even buy into this bs.
This has been known ever since Bungie left Microsoft. They said that microsoft had first dibs on their games, that they weren't going to completely abandon their fanbase. Also, they probably need more time with the PS3 version just because they have a separate smaller team working on it. Whereas, most of the Bungie crew is VERY familiar with the xbox architecture. Don't go blaming a great dev just because your precious hardware is going to be a tad late to the party. I have all 3 gaming consoles and nice gaming rig. I could care less about which one it comes on first because I either get it there or the better version.