Details of video game publisher Activision Blizzard Inc.'s high-profile deal in 2010 with Bungie Inc. to make an original game series has been made public for the first time as part of a separate lawsuit involving the Call of Duty game franchise.
"The contract also specifies that the first game is a timed Xbox exclusive, created for the Xbox 360 as well as potentially for its still-unnamed successor, called the "Xbox 720" in the documentation. It could then later be released for PlayStation in 2014. In addition to the Xbox, later games could also be released for the PS3 or its successor console, as well as for PC." Wait so instead of timed exclusive DLC, they are making timed exclusive games now?
The first game is a X360/X720 exclusive. They're "considering" a PS3/PS4 port in 2014. get your facts straight (Neogaf). Why are you mad anyway? Just get a X360/X720 if you want the game that badly.
Haha go check on Neogaf; people are mad angry about the Microsoft exclusivity. It's FFXIII all over again. LMAO
"The first Destiny game will initially only be available on Microsoft's Xbox 360 consoles, as well as its potential successor, which the contract refers to as the "Xbox 720." I think the key word here is "initially". Plus, he's quoting Kotaku, which I originally had as the source, and they clearly say timed without elaborating.
Well, "initially" like at least a year exclusivity, since they say they're "considering" porting the game to the PS3 and it's successor some time in 2014. Sad though, I wish it was multiplat.
I hope if they do it, it's not a bad port cause i can't stand bad ports lol or i'll just by the next gen console even though i was planning already to get both next gen consoles.
If you don't want this sort of thing to continue then don't support publishers like Activision. I won't be buying any Bungie made games or Acts. Problem over.
So basically this Bungie game is basically an Xbox 360 exclusive this gen. If this is true the the game was to be announced at this years E3. It will then be playable at next years E3 and will probably get a Fall 2013 release. No wonder Micrsoft is saying the 360 console life is extended. 343s Halo 4 in 2012/ Activision Black Ops 2 Acivision will literally own 2013 Destine Fall 2013 & Modern Warfare 4 Xbox 720 releases 2014 Literally Halo 5 & 6 and Destine's next 3 games. No developer knows the 360 like Bungie it makes sense for them to stay home with the 360 and the game will get a Halo Level of attention from both Activision and Microsoft... Wow..the plot thickens...can't wait to see if this goes down at E3..Megaton leakage Evil
@Evildead360: Wow, did you re-read what you typed? Did you really just say all that? I hope you didn't have a straight face behind your monitor when you typed it. Seriously dude, MS isn't going to reward you, nor will Activision or Bungie, nor will anyone here. The plot thickens? Really? OT: The thing to remember is that A)Do PS users really want an Acti/Bungie game? B)If it comes to the PS3, Sony forces added content/upgrades for timed exclusives or they won't allow it on the system period. And C)Do you honestly think that it will be anything of REAL note? Halo was Bungie's livelihood. They didn't do ANYTHING else after starting the franchise. Sure, they had Marathon before Halo, but as soon as they started the Halo franchise they haven't worked on anything else. Don't get excited for a rumour, and don't get your hopes up over a game that is most likely just going to be a Halo clone.
@DragonKnight "A)Do PS users really want an Acti/Bungie game?" What a dumb thing to say. In fact it may be the dumbest thing I heard all week. Why wouldn't Playstation owners want a Acti/Bungie game? Did you get in a car accident this weekend and forget that Call of Duty is the most popular franchise on the Playstation? Did you also forget how Sony invested heavily in franchises like Killzone to counter Halo? Don't shooters sell on the Playstation? Of course they do. When you look at software sales each month the two consoles often share the same games and are roughly close to each other in sales. When is this portion of the N4G community going to grow up and start seeing how both systems can and will co-exist with one another and can be enjoyed by both parties? There is no reason to try and segregate the two platforms and divide the communities when they share the same games and the same experiences. XBOX 360 owners would love games like Uncharted as well, they are not as different of a gamer as some people on here want others to believe.
@LevelHead: Classic case of "someone beat up your mom" response. You take things way too seriously for someone with the name "LevelHead." The question you SHOULD be asking yourself is why would PS owners want second hand experiences? Why would PS owners want any Bungie game with Activisions hands all over it? Why would ANYONE want it after reading what Activision demands of the game? Activision is forcing Bungie to go the CoD meets Halo route. Who wants that? Why the hell would you want another cookie cutter shooter? Clearly the game that Bungie is making for Activision is NOT the game they wanted to make and the deal is obviously between Activision and MS and has little to do with Bungie. Why the hell would you bring up CoD as though that's a GOOD thing? Of course any company would invest money to get CoD's success, that's just common sense, but have you bothered to pay attention to what people complain about with CoD? Do you think anyone would want Bungie to become like Treyarch and Infinity Ward? Do you want another steaming pile of mainstream trash or do you want something truly unique and real? Whatever "LevelHead." Clearly you saw in my comment an attack that you wanted to see as though I personally insulted your family or something. If that floats your boat, all the power to you, but thanks to having 2 bubbles I don't have to bother responding to a person like you once this is posted.
@ Dragonknight 'Whatever "LevelHead." Clearly you saw in my comment an attack that you wanted to see as though I personally insulted your family or something' LMFAO @ This flaming hypocrisy.. You just wrote the most [email protected] response to me just speculating the timeline of the rumored game releases then you go on and cry pretending that PS3 owners fit into your fan goggles buying preference. Level head is 100% correct in bringing up that Call of Duty is the #1 selling PS3 franchise by far. Your on drugs if you think they will ignore a Bungie made shooter that everyone pretended they wanted prior to hearing this news..lol Your crying because I wrote the plot thickens?? Once again can't wait till E3 to see if this is how it will go down. Classic fail.. Evil
To PS3 fans who are quick to hate and over react: calm down. This exclusivity business that has been going on for years is M$'s business not yours. M$ has $1,000 for every $1 Sony has! And that's a fact. But mind you what has it done to Sony PS3? Only a few million units lead and most of them recalled or replacement units for RRODed XBOX 360. Its a fact that this years exclusivity deals between Activision and M$ has worked well particularly on the USA not so much world wide. Did this practice knocked Sony PS3 out of the game? Remember Activision has a longer success history with PlayStation than Xbox 360. CEO Jack Tretton is still an Activision Guy. Microsoft paying millions for Activision exclusivity is SOP since the NES days. You can not do any thing about it. Even if you boycott them. Besides, don't PS3 fanboys have enough exclusives & shooter's to play on PS3 & aren't you content with the FPS servings served you every month? Let xboxers play 360 games & PS3 gamers play PS3 type games. Don't be greedy. Be content. Don't hate. Appreciate. Be happy Sony serves you different variety games not just shooters everyday.
"M$ has $1,000 for every $1 Sony has! And that's a fact." might wanna look up the word fact. As of May 21st, MS has a market cap value just slightly under 250 billion. Sony is just over 14 billion. now, MS is worth alot more, and sony has been on a massive decline, but 1000 to 1 is a tremendous exaggeration. it's closer to 17:1 "Let xboxers play 360 games & PS3 gamers play PS3 type games." you have no idea what type of shooter Bungie is making. and what is a ps3 type game or a 360 type game anyway? 360 offers plenty more than just shooters...so lets stop perpetuating that myth.
As a fan of Marathon I did liked the first Halo when I had an Xbox, but that was about it, it got somewhat boring right after for me (I'll repeat, FOR ME, that IS and opinion, please people keep your pants on) as it never evolved into that Marathon universe timeline I would love to see. Now they'll mix it with COD to outright destroy any good Halo had left in it. I can already imagine... "Future Warfare: Space Marines A group of surviving Covenant Loyalists recreated the terrorist group know as Al-Covenant. Their high prophets declared that humanity is still an afront to the Forerunner gods and 3 years ago they tried another attack to Earth, this time glassing our twin World Trade Satellites. UEG declares a war on terror. UNSC declare that the Covenant terrorists are hiding in a new mobile-planetoid called High Charityhstan and have Floodships of mass destruction. Some Separatist races argue that humans only want to rob the spaceship fuel. We based our game in this on-going war but won't give names or interesting related story to be respectful. Take control of some of the best power ranger... I mean... SPARTAN-II soldier into high cinematic action and play online with up to 18 friends in 6 camping friendly maps (more old maps to come in DLC) in an aim-assited noob fest. Use a headset to yell at your teammates and other kids alike. Have fun and give me another 60 moneys." After 3 sequels (around 6 years), 1 Loyalist friendly Dictator dead, 1 planet destroyed, other planet unrelated brought into war and thousands of lost lifes they'll finally found the Loyalist leader and kill him. Yet UEG will delay the call back of troops. Of course I'm kidding... They can't use Halo assets as it belongs to MS. Nor historic assets as they would be sued by WikiLeaks for copyright infrigment (you know those guys think only them can piss off american politicians). Now, seriously, LevelHead is right. Both COD and Halo are massively popular and probably this intertests a lot of people... But not this PS3 owner, I don't give a damn.
So it is timed exclusive for the 360, which I am quite surprised by. It seems like a stupid idea, because if it comes out later on another console, sales are always much less than if it came out day and date. Although, seems like Bungie want to keep the Xbox fans happy, which is why they want to do some sort of exclusivity at first. Also, worst way to have your game announced, ever.
So with this info can ya tell me something. Destiny is clearly a straight up shooter title. Releasing every two years. So who is publishing said MMO Bungie has under wraps? Oh I see. It must be Microsoft. It all makes sense now. Destiny is very likely to end up multiplatform title. Yes they might launch it on X360 first and for awhile, but when Activision chimes for it to come to PS3, PC then it will. Activision and EA are biggest, and greediest money grabbers out there and now their competing. Can't compete on only one platform.
Were you born yesterday or something? This has been happening this whole generation.
I came late in on this one, but it's just hilarious to read through the comments and see the trolls show their true colours.
Chill guys, it still looks like PS will get the game. If its going to export choices like mass effect then honestly the delay might be good because you'll get all four games on the ps4. (I know I'm speculating but it was rumoured to be an rpg shooter so..)
Whoahohoa DragonNight! You attack someone for no reason and then write something so dumb, the lifespan of human race itself has shortened by a few decades due to brain fog. Seriously? Was YOUR face straight when you wrote that? You dont want a game to appear on ps3 because it is from activision and bungie who dared to make it a timed xbox exclusive? You must have missed out on a lot because of tour stupidity, like Oblivion and Bioshock. Both good games. Oh please forgive them, dragon night! They will make it worth your while. Also, I guess since Bungie moved on from Marathon and made Halos for awhile, they are incapable of making anything but a Halo/COD clone. Damn, I guess that means that Epic's Fortnite will actually play just like Gears of War... Having said that, I really want to see what this game is. Im glad it doesnt sound like an MMO as was rumored.
There is noting new about this so why are people kicking up a fuss. Nintendo had Res 4 and then later it was ported to the PS2, The same with MGS 2 it was on the PS2 and then ported to the Xbox. I really don't get some people if you want a game that bad get the console it is on or even more simple than that is if you want the best experience in gaming with the widest choice of games buy all the consoles and you can get any game you want on the console you want it on too.
Bungie making a contract with activision? They just signed a deal with the devil
Bungie also getsa 2.5 million dollar bonus only if the game gets a higher average than 90 on Gamerankings... explains the inflation of review scores. If developers are paid bonuses based on review scores, no wonder this has happened. It also encourages review-bribing, since a developer could pay off reviewers knowing that they'll get a huge bonus with high review scores. Activision can also terminate the contract if Destiny doesn't sell more than 5 million within the first 6 months. And it's an MMO. That's asking a lot for a console MMO, especially when it's a timed-exclusive.
Also in the contract, Bungie gets a 1.5 million dollar bonus only if the game gets a higher average than 90 on Gamerankings... explains the inflation of review scores. If developers are paid bonuses based on review scores, no wonder this has happened.
bungie made halo.. They still have a lot to prove. They could suck at other genres. Plus no way am I getting an xbox.
"The first Destiny game will initially only be available on Microsoft's Xbox 360 consoles, as well as its potential successor, which the contract refers to as the "Xbox 720." Later games would be made for Xbox consoles as well as Sony Corp.'s expected successor to the PlayStation 3, and on personal computers." Oh well. Looks like I'm not getting any Bungie games for my PS consoles. I will not be treated as a second-class citizen. Timed-exclusive DLC is one thing, but this is just going too far. What logical reason is there for not releasing this game on the PS3 as well? I'm betting a couple million from Microsoft....
If you don't get the late port for the PS3, they'll think we're not interested in their games and we'll keep getting shafted.
Is the Playstation 3 your first game system? Timed exclusives have been going on for years. Ever hear of the game Grand Theft Auto? The series was also timed exclusive to the Playstation 2 platform. My how people have such knee-jerk reactions here on N4G and so much resentment when it comes to Microsoft.
In GTA's defense, in the PS2's generation it was dominating the hardware sales in comparison to the Xbox. Now the gap between PS3 and 360 isn't as big as PS2 and the original Xbox so timed exclusivity in this generation will probably harm sales more than when it did in the previous generation. I won't deny the possibility that it will be an awesome hit of a game but it seems more understandable to get mad at timed exclusivity this generation than in the previous one.
its not up to them. its up to activision.
I don't think they are treating PS3 owners as second class citizens. They've been a single platform developer for a decade. I think they are just being cautious. Considering this was the initial deal agreed to by Activision and Bungie, I don't think Microsoft played any part in this. This is what Bungie wanted. I think it's just a matter of them not wanting to commit to something without knowing that they are able to fully deliver. Nobody wants to see a rushed version. Keep in mind, this document, which you can see some of for yourself here... http://www.neogaf.com/forum... ... is two years old. Plans can change, especially considering it's a plan based around next-gen consoles for which details were far from concrete at the time, and Bungie's lack of PS3 development experience. There's even a portion of the contract detailing how and when they would be looking into the feasibility of a PS3 version. There's a possibility that there may not even be a PS3 version. But on the other hand, between Activision and Bungie, I highly doubt either would be opposed to releasing a game simultaneously on PS3 and 360 if they find they can do it, and I'm sure Sony and Activision would be more than willing to help Bungie along. PS4 is clearly mentioned as a target console. They'll likely both want to avoid a Mass Effect kind of situation where one console is missing a game, so PS3 will likely see the game. Plus, you have to consider that the sooner they finish the first game for the platforms they plan on releasing it on, the sooner they can turn their full attention to the sequel. Taking their sweet time on a PS3 version doesn't really help them if they intended to stick to a release schedule that sees a new game or expansion every year.
Yes. My brother's friend's sister's uncle said he knew a guy from Bungie who saw Bill Gate coming in secretly wearing a trench coat and shades and carrying a briefcase with a million dollars which he gave to Mr Bungie for not allowing sony have his game. Then they were like laughing all evil-like. True story.
Wouldn't it make more sense if you just said my brother's friend's uncle... unless your brother's friend's sister is your brother's friend's half sister.
This news has been known since last year and was even confirmed by Bungie at GDC 2011 http://www.kotaku.com.au/20...
If this is all true, which I'm assuming it is, it makes Bungie sound hypocritical. You leave Microsoft because you say you're tired of being tied down to Halo, only to run into the arms of Activision, who ties you down to an extremely strict regiment given to it's Call of Duty developers as well. I clearly remember one of the Bungie founders saying that they just wanted the freedom and space to craft what they wanted, and now you mean to tell me that they knew ALL along that they were going to be strapped down to a 2 year dev cycle, an expansion pack every other year, and the pressure to make sure EVERY game delivers of 90 on Game Rankings? Yeah, that's a lot to swallow. Dunno how to feel about Bungie ATM. They traded one evil for an even greater evil.
In the Xbox 360 early years I didn't consider MS evil.They pulled every stop to grab 3rd party exclusives,1st party hits,Xbox Live on every 360,Halo 3,huge promotion and massive support to its Arcade line-up. However with Activision's latest strategies getting too obvious,I worry bungie will lose its heart.
you mean their soul
Those sneaky buggers at Microsoft must have struck up another deal with Activision. I guess you could relate it to the Sony/Rockstar timed exclusivity deal for the last gen GTA titles. Except with this deal, it's just for the first title in the series. With that said, Bungie's new game series could probably end up being associated mainly as an xbox franchise, just like GTA is associated mainly as a playstation franchise. Or you could even look at Call of Duty as an example! This would surely make a lot of playstation gamers upset.
"Bungie gets another $2.5 million if the first Destiny game achieves a score of 90 or better out of 100 on GameRankings.com, a site that summarizes reviews by game critics." And people wonder why game scores are so inflated. No wonder the gaming industry gets so much heat from the consumer, there's so much crap going on in the background. Shady timed exclusive deals, shady DLC practices, DRM that does nothing to stop piracy, online registration fees on used games, Capcom and others selling DLC already on the game disc, the list goes on.
So you have a problem with a developer that gets a big bonus if they made a high quality game? This is how things should work in the first place to encourage quality... What it worst, you somehow relate this point to stuff like DRM and used games!? That's some really bad logic right there. This deal also doesn't have and "shadiness" in the game being exclusive: they're not getting any money from Microsoft and that is pretty much on the contract. It's most likely that Bungie is already pretty much set up for X360 development while at the same time they have zero PS3 experience. They most likely wanted to push the game when they can deliver and not just make people on one platform wait just because they are taking their first step with another platform.
Wow someone who finally realises it for what it is. You're right, they know the 360, they don't know the PS3 which is most likely why Destiny #2 is down as being on 360, 720 and PS4 but not PS3 as if the PS4 is of a different ilk to the PS3 then every developer has no experience of the PS4 and if it is similar to the PS3 then 2015 gives them plenty of time to learn.
I wonder if the game does well for Microsoft and the Xbox 360 if they will continue to pay to keep it exclusive? From the looks of things, the first game is an exclusive with the "possibility" of the sequels going to Sony's console/s? Maybe Bungie just felt more comfortable working on familiar hardware? At least this is a new IP that we will be seeing.
What did you expect its Activision and Bungie, of course they are going to treat PlayStation gamers as second class.
Read the contract guys. It's pretty sickening. Highlights include Activision terminating the contract if the game doesn't sell 5 million units in 6 months, and Bungie won't get their $2.5 Million Bonus if the game doesn't achieve 90 or above on Game Rankings and Metacritic. This an absolutely HUGE leak. Blows the doors wide open.
of a Halo game or Call of duty because this game will not break anything if it doesn't this is a really big leak! and its xbox 360 exclusive! for a year! LOL MS, bungie and Acti hard at work! no wonder why MS was so ok with letting bungie leave after Reach!!!
Yeah, sounds like a pretty s*** deal. Oh well, Best of luck Bungie.
I see this more as they CAN terminate it, rather than they WILL terminate the contract. Also the $2.5m bonus isn't Bungie's, so I don't know why you're calling it 'their bonus', it isn't like Bungie gave it to Activision to borrow until they get 90% upon which Activision will give them 'their' bonus back, it is an incentive to produce a quality game. Quality based incentive bonuses are common. That said, some of the royalty payments and thresholds do seem quite low (royalty wise) and high (threshold wise), but we've nothing to compare to, so could be standard.
I had a feeling it was gonna be exclusive to MS's console, think about it its Activision and Bungie? MS has a great relationship with Activision and even greater relationship with bungie. Beside who else knows the tech of MS console better then Bungie.
Damnnnn,activision making bungie make a crap load of games
Bungies first few games after the split were to be TIMED exclusive to MS/Xbox. This was revealed back when it was announced that Bungie was going independent. It got relatively little coverage, because it was good news for Xbox, but its out there, google it.
So true and not sure why people are acting like this is new news. One of Bungies release terms from MS was that MS gets first dips on any of Bungies projects and if they dont like it they can pass on it. Hyped for E3!!!!!!!!!
one game and more kinect craps wont be enough for M$ to win E3....they WONT win it thats 100% sure ps3 will most likely win this E3 again they have sht load of games they will show and we have the new nintendo console sony or nintendo will win E3 m$ wont be even close deal with it.
@lollypopgirl - I dont give a flying rats @$$ about MS,Nintendo or Sony winning E3 because I own all 3 consoles and a high spec gaming PC. I feel sorry for people like you who only limit then selfs to one thing and worship a corporation. Dont give that but I can not afford all consoles BS becuase I bought a working 360 and still going strong on Ebay for $80 and Wii for $60. - I had my PS3 since launch but its starting to crap out on me so will get a slim model soon. So go ahead and cheer for Sony or Nintendo to win E3 but just remember that those corporation only want your money and dont give a dam about you cheering for them and defending them on N4G like it was a god.
my fellow ps3 gamers shouldn't rage were getting tons of exclusives coming our way. for ps3 or 4
Huge win for Microsoft right here. Even Jack Tretton said it would be Halo in steroids!
There you have it folks. ms taking care of it's fan base for repeat business. This is awesome news for 360 fans getting an exclusive Bungie game.
Assembly Line Games. . 8 Skus in 8 years. (CoD Model) . A separate Subscription fee on top + microtransactions. . Yuck. . If successful plan to pay a sub fee for every popular online FPS. . The games are about as exclusive as CoD DLC = It isn't. . Still the XBros can have it, I'm not touching it with a 10 foot pole when it makes its way onto PlayStation.
Huge news but wait for 2013.Deal is actually pretty good,if everything goes well Bungie could get hundreds of millions $$$. Most devs get nothing except food on the table. But this is not possible. According to n4g MS has left its core fanbase,Kinect and apps are X720 future. This is a core game,right?
lol you guys sure blows things over one game exclusivity its sad really, and why would ps3 fan rage over it I mean. we got 20+ exclusive to look forward to when come e3. granted its not a top tier scifi mmo shooter oh wait...never mind we got DUST514 and its f2p huh imaging that
Let alone its coming from Bungie so its not like PS3 players see their games anyways....so in reality PS3 players won't be missing anything at all.....
gamerankings.com bonuses need to go, they make no sense at all.
Welcome to the mill Bungie, I hope you know what you're doing.
Well, i wont be getting a multiplat game that doesnt launch day and date. I have a ps3 and a 360 but I wont support actions like this. Either make it an exclusive or make it multiplat from day 1. Voting with my wallet.
When are companies going to realize they actually lose out on profits while M$ maximizes theirs because they have a monopoly on a title? This practice has hurt companies in the past and they are finally realizing it. Business wise M$ is genius, they do none of the R&D and only pay for exclusivity rights. The rights are probably far cheaper than owning a studio and making a game. On the other hand M$ is crazy if they think I'm going to go and buy a console for one game, especially an over priced console that is going on 8 years old. Come on, drop the price and throw in a hard drive and controller you cheapskates.
Well, at least they will be able to port it to the PS3. So no Kinect little children crap. Or... they would have to port it to the Move.
Why does Activision treat more than a third of their customer based like total crap? Just let MS buy you out and get it over with. All the exclusive licenses they have can just go up in the air for the real third parties to play with.....