Techtorial: Here's a possible scenario for the file size of Grand Theft Auto V when it gets released on PC, in comparison with Max Payne 3's four-disc requirement on computer.
I remember back in 2008 that GTAIV Was 16GB and that was BIG now MAX PAYNE 3 Is 35GB and I was like O_o
Max Payne 3 AFAIK has stored cutscenes on disk, GTAV won't have those since that would take considerably more than 35gigs and wouldn't make much sense since you don't have to get into action seamlessly like in MP3.
Exactly. We don't "know" GTAV will require space just because a non open world game requires 35 gigs.
Uncharted 3 weighs in at around 45GB
F*CK Excuse my french lol.
Yeah, but that's mainly due to the pre-rendered cut scenes (2D and 3D). The Uncharted 3 game itself only weighs like 10-12 GB I think I heard.
Idk why you get disagrees when naughty dog said it themselves, even GG said kz3 was over 35 gigs on the disk
Basically what Panda is saying is that some of those 35 GB are fake ones.....and so only 10 - 12 GB count as being real :/
Erm, what? Can you not read?
Yes but there's some duplicated code on the disc to make it faster. A lot of PS3 games use duplicated code.
As for Uncharted 3 content. "3.24GB of behind-the-scenes movies, 7GB of foreign language audio, and 10GB of 3D movies (pre-rendered cut-scenes are stored both in 2D and 3D versions) but by our reckoning there's at least 16GB of core game data being used in this game." So about 16GB actually. Less if any padding is done to improve seek times on disc (which would makes sense because UC3 does no installs). http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
I think the words you're looking for is "redundant coding" to help PS3 games load faster.
I wonder why Blu-Ray hasn't become standard with PC gaming? They can't seriously think they can get by on DVDs much longer......
Bluray drives aren't that common yet. And 99% of new releases are still ~8-12 GB. Everything gets installed to a harddrive anyway, so it's no problem having 2 or even 3 disks for a game because you only need to use them to install the game. I still install Half-Life 2 from a set of 5 CDs.
Since most PC games are also digital the size is not a problem (GamersGate, GOG, Steam).
I wonder why Blu-Ray hasn't become standard with PC gaming? They can't seriously think they can get by on DVDs much longer...... Well yes actually majority of most retail games now use steam witch forces you to download for example STEAM CLIENT, meaning dvd isnt needed of course even if we install game via the disc we wouldnt need the disc to play these days. Once your game registerd via Steam,Origin,GFWL,Battle.net. You can log in redownload your game from there servers, much like how PSN works. only we have endless amount uses per 1 account holder example psn has 3 licesnses we have 1 account that can be used by any 1 pc at any 1 time as many times as you like. The world of gaming is becomming hugly closer to digital downloads only to consoles maybe not next gen but soon as PC nearly there already. Personally i like physical hard copy's but as a pc gamer too its good to know a server has your back incase you loose your game.
Gravelord: He knows nothing, but dammit....he's going to say SOMETHING at the very least. "Get by on DVD's much longer"...lol, the stupidity. I can feel it emanating off you from here.
All the huge games besides RAGE are 60% video files, having video files really shouldn't be a driving force into the future for PC architecture. If the scenes were done in engine they could scale to modern hardware with ultra wide displays etc, the video files will always be the same...
blu ray cost more than dvd and anything that is blu ray sony receives royalties the big picture is sony battled and won a format war lost billions to set themselves up in the end imo which is cool with blu ray I believe it to be the last successful disc format the things are literally indestructible 20+ ps3 games and not a scratch
Nice....getting a very SAN ANDRES vibes from this screen. Hopefully we can relive the big foot mystery again and have some sighting of him.
The whole Rockstar bigfoot mystery was sort of put to rest in RDR: Undead Nightmare with the Sasquatches, and the achievement you receive for killing all of them; "Six Years in the Making" (6 years since GTA: San Andreas' release).
35Gb HDD space is nothing! Telling me it's gonna come on 4 DVD is an issue!! Compress that sh!t down to two DVD's then let me blow it up on my HDD!! anyway I'm 100% positive somebody is gonna compress the hell outta MP3 and put it on the net! then again why am I so concerned when I don't plan on buying MP3 anyway when I'm too busy playing Tera and Day Z!!
They will have to use lossy compression, and therefore lose on the quality of the files. 35GB is not an issue to download nowadays anyway, especially from quality servers like the ones most digital distribution services are running.
it's an issue when in the UK ALL note ALL broadband providers cap ur download at 100GB a month, my contract says unlimited downlaods, but in the small print it says 100GB then anything after that the speed gets reduced and keeps reducing until loading up a youtube video becomes a hassle the reason why is below "You probably share your broadband connection with around 49 other people because most home broadband connections have a contention ratio of 50:1. So the problem is that if you’re a big downloader, you could be slowing down the broadband connection of up to 49 other people. And if you are regularly affecting other people’s internet, your ISP might decide that something needs to be done."
I love Blu-Ray!!!!
so should we all.. but by now even MS should have developed a blue laser disk for distributing software based on bluray (for PC and XB3).
@ imt558 those 10 people that disagreed with your comment are either: 360 fan, they're just jelly that they don't have a ps3, or they're just downright narcissistic to the max.
Take a good look at gears of war 3 and halo 4 buddy, they are all on one disc and they give uncharted a run for its money at less than 8 gigs. AND SKYRIM WAS ONLY 4 GIGS and had 6x the content uncharted had. accusation of "jelly" 360 owners is down right ignorant and I should slap you. Blu-ray was not needed that much this gen. Theres no game that couldnt manage with dvd's. Oh, and I have a ps3, I have all the proof you want.
@_Aarix_, All games could work on 3.5" floppy disks too if coded for them. Yet here we are with better technology.
@Aarix MGS4 needed blu-ray. It's the only reason why Kojima won't allow it on 360. Max Payne 3 and LA Noire needed blu-ray. Hell, even MS's own exclusive racer Forza 3 & 4 needed blu ray. Basically, if it is multi-disc on 360, it needed blu-ray. End of.
LOL @ Aarix I'm not ignorant one bit. It just boggles my mind that people would click the disagree button for a person stating that they love bluray. Not only does it make no sense to click the disagree button on something that is a fact (he loves bluray), it's just downright dumb. If you guys don't understand what I'm trying to write here, let me give you a better example. Lets say that I wrote "If somebody slits my throat and there's nobody to help me, I'll eventually die because I will bleed to death." and some jackass clicks disagree, it just makes you retarded because that person obviously thinks that they're some sort of superhuman or something. Bottom line is this.. there are some things that can't be disagreed because it just wouldn't make sense. PS. good luck slapping me and living after that. Just so you know I'm an extremely fast sprinter so you most likely won't be able to flee from me. I also was the strongest pound for pound male in my entire high school. Good luck buddy. good luck.
i love bluray too.
i love your mom's brown ray.
No problemo, although I think I'll buy the retail version, downloading that would take days.
My poor poor hard-drive...
That's very big for a story game, let alone multiplayer.
I cant see why if its 35gb it would be on 4 dvd's? Age of conan was 33gb & it came on 2 dvd's just has a compressed installer. 4 dvd's just doesnt make any sense.
HD video is by default heavily compressed, for example 1 second of RAW 1080p video is 155.52 MB for each second, Blu-Ray movies are around 7 MB per second. Considering that most of Max Payne 3 is Video and much of the rest is high quality audio and also HD textures none of it can be compressed more than it already is without harming the quality of the assets.
This only affects 360 users. PS3 users don't need to worry because it'll fit on one BluRay disc easy. PC users don't need to worry even if it is 100GB. You can get 3TB HDD's for £100. Assuming GTA5 is 50GB (Which I doubt it will), thats £1.60 of storage space. Lol..
hmm...do you guys know that dialogues in many different languages may take up to almost a half of game's size? well, gta v is going to weight more than 30 gigs, this is for sure. But if there will be lots of languages to choose from, expect 50 gigs and several dvds.
This is definitely the reason for most of the size in modern games. Even without compression we'll quickly see several "rip" versions (containing only english) that come in at roughly half the original size
Yep. Geometry actually takes up very little. Thats why Just Cause 2 is so huge yet is smaller in terms of gigabytes than GTA4. Cutscenes, Audio, Textures take up the most. And in a huge island like in JC2, alot of those textures are reused.
I reuse a lot of your mom's textures.
If this continues, I will need to buy a couple of new 2 TB HDDs the nexy couple of years.
i'm happy with my ps3 :D now if i buy gta 5 in the future i only need 1 cd and the xbox360 owners gonna have 3 cd's xD
So I'm guessing a minimum of 2 discs for Xbox 360 then.
The Xbox cd only hold around 8gb. So if gta v is like 35 than its gonna need like 5 cd's
On 360, if GTA V reaches 16GB or more, it'll require three DVDs; if that happens, you can expect its PC version to require five DVDs.
Further proof that we need new consoles. Three cds is insane.
@ trenta lost oddesy had 4 disks and that came out in 2008 i think
Luckily i have a 320gb PS3.
Hard drive space isn't an issue on the PC, it might take an hour or two to download from Steam but that's a small annoyance. I don't know if the purpose of this article was really intended to speculate on the size or amount of disks required for GTA V on the 360. But either way, you probably shouldn't speculate on something you know nothing about. GTA IV was smaller on the disk then MP3 on the 360, this alone makes speculation on it: Capital "S" Stupid. Also no one cares that you have a PS3 and only require one Blu Ray.
Size doesnt matter to PC, but I really hope they wont realease a buggy Pc version at launch like Gta4.
250gig ps3, soo no worries
I have seriously little time to comment but some great opinions on this topic. Read the post and I think a lot of you have it right / semi right (nothing dirty guys) I do believe however, XGD3 hold's 8.6GB rather than 7.XX - you could say I am wrong but likely I can and you can't - no offence intended.
It's 10gb now. Has been since the dashboard update.
If you "have seriously little time to comment" why did you take your precious time to write that useless sentence?
erm cos I can lol
Reminds me of people that send really long text messages then at the end write "I'm sorry I wrote such a long text blah blah blah".
Why I am getting it on pc. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Xbox 360 DVD holds 10gb. I know cause Xbox gave out Halo Reach disc that were 10gb. Wasn't that long ago either. So yes 2 disc is good enough if GTA is 16GB.
I have no idea myself but: http://saveandquitgaming.co... ?
There's a difference between megabits & megabytes. To my knowledge a commercially available 10gb dvd 9 does not exist. Either it's megabits or MS has some serious compression techniques.
I heard they were only 8gb. Or are you saying that they only made halo reach using 10gb discs.
Stop comparing PC install size to consoles. Pc can be 35gb with tons of extra stuff like textures for high rez, medium rez and low rez, drivers for various vga/sound cards configuration files, optimization for intel based or AMD based pcs etc and tons more stuff specific for pcs. On consoles you have to only develop for one configuration and you can optimize the software to that particular setup. You can't have different graphic settings or sound cards selection on consoles so the same kind of game can probably fit on 2 DVDs whereas on pc it might take 5.
I'm gonna be honest, I spent half the article wondering why they were comparing the file size of GTA5 to that of an MP3. Eventually I thought they meant R* was switching over to lossless audio...
everything is getting bigger and better there days.
Will Gta 5 even be on pc?
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