Loud Mouthed Gamers: "Well the Official Xbox Magazine (July 2012) has started circulating it’s rumor mill yet again."
If they do re-make Halo 2, they should definitely re-make that E3 tech demo level Bungie showed off but never really made it into the final version. It had such a kick-ass cutscene and some great fire fights.
I agree and while Halo 2 was awesome I hope MS have something else (if this is true). I dont think we can rely on a Halo 2 remake to shift consoles even though Halo is an absolute juggernaught.
If, instead of a launch title you had to buy separate, it was actually included with the console, then i think it would be enough to really help boost launch sales. I know i would consider it a massive incentive to be an early adopter. and early adoption is probably what scares these console makers at this point. They release Halo 4 on 360 and they already have how many million units in people's homes? they release halo 4 with 720, and maybe only 2 or 3 million ppl even own the console.
I doubt itll come out on xbox 720 because ms will most likely do the same with reach where you can get a map pack for halo 4 so yh itll probably come out next year
and hopefully if they do do this then they should let u play 360 games on the 720 and also let you take your profile from 360 to 720
I remember seeing that and feeling my 13-year-old loins tightening. Yea, Halo 2 would be a great one to remake, especially since the emulation for 360 is so poor. Every tried playing it? Everything ghosts onto the screen.
They would re make all Halo's 1 through 4 so they could be played on the best newest advanced hardware w/a more unlimited digital space, they could release 1 - 4 at 1 time and on one media and bring in all new Halo fans. Not just Halo 2 remake.
@aviator189, I totally agree! I hope they make that stage so damn bad! If they make a Halo 2 Anniversary, I may cry a little! So dog gone Happy!
Im glad someone remembers that! The final version of Halo 2 was nothing like that E3 footage, Halo 2 was very underwhelming :-( The weapons and grenades all felt and were weak, the story was not that good either. IMO Halo 2 does not need a remake, Halo 1 was and still is the best Halo in the series and am eagerly awaiting Halo 4 lets see how that turns out.
Halo 2 campaign was a disappointment, but the multiplayer is probably the best in the series so far. It had its flaws, suprerjumps, button combos, glitches, lag-switchers and modders. However, the base gameplay and maps were excellent. Best maps in the series so far and the gameplay was smooth and fast. <3 Team Hardcore, Never Forget.
What was so disappointing about the campaign? Honestly serious question? It's my favorite campaign out of the H1-3
Lol you Xbox guys. All they have to do is make a bunch of apps and no games, just so long as they give you more non-innovative Halo games (and your obligatory COD games too). Lol.
That would be a dream come true. Keep the multiplayer just like Halo 2 and I'll be happy.
I hope the next Xbox gets released next year and not 2014 I am all for the next generation
yep i want next xbox playstation next year also... the money is there for me!!
Why? Because there is no such thing as NEXT GEN software.....not even the best PC games are delivering NEXT GEN software. Instead, the best AAA budget PC developers are delivering Diablo 3. We also had WITCHER 2....we had HARD RESET, BLACKLIGHT, STAR WARS: TOR, and soon GUILD WARS 2. As nice as some of those games are, none of those big budget PC exclusive games is truly NEXT GEN. Why not? Because developers aren't ready for true NEXT GEN. Therefore no point in upgrading at $4, 5, and $600 for marginal & insignificant tech gains. holiday 2014 at the earliest, and no sooner.
You don't seem to understand the concept of generations when it comes to consoles...
NEXT GEN hardware with no true NEXT GEN software is meaningless.
Pretty sure there's no such thing as Next Gen PC. With that being in mind, what exactly do you consider next gen if NONE of the games coming out on PC are said next gen? Do you expect Avatar quality? lol...
I'm not sure what you expect from next gen? But it's pretty sad when current gen consoles have to start gimping PC games like BF3 to the point where the maps are customly made with 1/4 of the amount of online players and zero of the eye candy. Im still happy enough to play many of the console games but they are seriously getting real stale. You say there is no next gen software. Bring out the hardware and the software will follow. Problem is hardware isn't cheap enough to deliver a price effective consoles - in which kind of agree with you.. No single GPU is really quick enough and SLI/Crossfire costs too much. But this has little to do with software.
Watch this video and then tell me a console manufacturer couldn't pick this company up and be ready for the "NEXT GEN" rather quickly
@Persistantthug 1st comment...Most BS argument i've ever read. HAHAHA
@Spydigity Middleware for next-gen? What? I hope to hell it is. If not I will be disappointed. http://www.youtube.com/watc... @Persistantthug While I do agree there are not many games that push next-gen quality right now. None of the games you mentioned have ever tried to push Next-Gen quality. One is a RPG with tons of characters and models. For its quality its pretty damn good, but its not made to be perfect representation of next gen. MMOs are never mean't to push graphics envelope beyond reason. They are meant to be massive with very many players. Doing so would not allow for as many players to play them. There are some games being developed from ground up on DirectX11 Software! Yes I said software. Because an API is typically software more than hardware, but they work together.
2014 sounds fair but I doubt with Halo 2 Ani...I think Halo 2 Ani will be next year
If they make a Halo 2 Anniversary, it will release in 2014 because it came out in 2004.
yeah but with the pattern they stick with the pattern they have been doing since Halo 3, Halo 2 would be next year and each Halo gets a 3 year dev time
An HD remake as a launch title? okaaay
Halo 2 was great and all but why the hell would anyone want a hd remake of an old game on a brand spankin new gen of console.... make the halo remake on 360.
Hmmm... but you could also ask why would anyone want the remake of an old game on a slightly less old console when there's a brand new gen of console available ?
I'd love a Hd remake, my favourite out of all the Halo titles, I would like it remastered with some of the content that Bungie had to leave out of it. Hopefully like CE Anniversary, launch it a year before Halo 5 gets released. One thing though, it'll be weird if they release classic map with it and not being able to dual wield :/
This isn't surprising to be honest.. They release Halo 4 on the 360 and get everyone hooked, so they then go and continue it on the 720 and use Halo 2 anniversary to drag you in. It kinda makes sense lol
New ip's for new consoles please HD remakes for the back burner for the start of next gen.
Halo is way over used..
why so over used? if every entry the game gets better well multiplayer to be correct halo 1 (very good local multiplayer) halo 2 (very good online multiplayer) halo 3 (very good next gen online multiplayer) halo reach: (better than halo 3 in so many ways) so i dont mind having more halos around i love reach and i cant go back to halo 3 not like other crappy exclusive cough* killzone cough* killzone 1(gltichy multiplayer) halo killer? killzone 2 (good multiplayer, shitty controls) killzone 3 (better controls, shitty multiplayer) hey sony heres and idea why dont you make killzone 4 ass good multiplayer like killzone 2 with good controls like killzone 3? the hd remakes are just remastered masterpieces just like MGS hd collection or God of war hd collection
Well hopefully next gen, i'll be getting xbox 720 and PS4.
I highly agree!
More power to you. Personally, past gen was the last one when I could really afford to have multiple consoles. It's not just the obscene ammount of money gaming is costing right now (and it IS part of the problem), it's the time they take. I don't really have time to play all the games that I would like to anymore, so I might as well stick to one platform that has most of what I like, feel any voids with multiplats and save for other stuff in the process. Afterall the current consoles aren't cheap (at least here), just imagine the next stuff. I prefer to invest this money on other hobbies that I have. And just like happened for me this gen, I'm pretty sure the next console I'll buy is going to be a last minute call. Whenever I'm ready to take the hit to my wallet is the moment I'll decide which console I really want to pass my next 6 or so years with.
Even though a Halo 2 remake wouldn't be ten years from Halo 2's release, this seems more like something they would do in 2013. Fall 2013 is still a year and a half away. I'd be shocked if next-gen consoles weren't out by then, especially with Wii U releasing this year. Plus, with ODST out in 2009, Reach in 2010, Anniversary in 2011, and 4 in 2012, I figured they were going for an every-other-year kind of thing with the big titles every two years with the lesser ones in between.
Who knows, there was 3 year gap between Halo 3 and Reach.. and the way Frankie was talking they want to expand Halo out of the FPS and not over saturate Halo with FPS all the time, makes 2013 perfect for some kind of spin off (3rd person/strategy). As he said its like WWII, it was going on in some many countries but you only hear of certain stories out of millions that could be told. The Halo universe is the same, but spans hundreds of thousands of years. There's plenty of story to be told in various genres and medias too. :)
Maybe Halo Wars 2?
the covenant also destroyed harvest maybe halo: harvest like halo: reach? or and ODST game that takes place on reach? or halo odst in third person? they can have a cover system because they die faster? i dont know im trippin right now and thinking of halo LOL im high as f*ck
To add to your comment. Halo Wars 2 on PC and Xbox 720?
I don't think Wii U will release this year at all. The economy is not at it's best and 3DS could use a little more time in the spotlight. Also, with the correct investment in software, Wii can still generate revenue for more a year or two. Also I have doubts if the tech is really available for a next gen jump... I mean, it sure exists, but is it cost efficient? Even if Ninty is not aiming for a major performance upgrade, it's arguably not the best moment for that considering Ninty just reported it's first loss in 30 years.
what boggles my mind is why didnt microsoft do a remake for the 2nd halo as well when they worked on the first. juz like sony did with god of war and others!!!!
Well, look at Halo CE next to Anniversary, and then look at GOW next to GOW collection, and you should have a pretty good idea why they only made one game and not two.
Probably because they're based off of 10 year anniversaries, and Halo 2 Anniversary Edition would have to release in 2014 for it to be 10 years.
come on. ten years is a completely arbitrary date. That excuse could be used to validate splitting any collection into multiple releases. and yet no one else is doing it with their HD collections. even if this were a valid excuse, than the game should cost $20, not $40. then, at least it wouldn't be a swindle, though it would still be lazy.
Exactly!!!!!! my point is why not celebrate that special 10 year anniversary in which a great franchise was created and release both remastered.
Well considering that they based the first Anniversary off of a 10 year cycle, I'm going to assume that they would base all of them on this concept. Also, Halo is doing this because it's Halo. It kind of overshadows a lot of the HD collections that come out. Maybe it's because that when a Halo comes out, it's expected to be good. It would make more sense to release a second anniversary on a new engine. Halo 2 was on a new engine compared to CE. It would be weird to put out two games on the same engine like that.
Well rumors are just that, rumors. I think Microsoft will launch the Xbox 720 at least on par with the PS4. No way will they let Sony have the advantage of being the only new console for the holiday season. I'm actually not convinced that 2013 is going to be the year we see the PS4 or the 720 though. So many great games are being pushed to 2013, those great AAA titles could potentially be dead in the water if new consoles come out around the same time. 2013 is the year we will probably see Halo 2 HD remake, Microsoft has quietly been releasing a Halo game every year, and I would expect it to continue with Halo 2 next year on the Xbox 360 most likely. I wouldn't count out a Halo Wars 2 the year after and than Halo 5 the year after that.
I personally think it will go like this. Halo 4 (2012), Halo Wars 2 (2013), Halo 2 Aniversary (2014), Halo 5 (2015), New IP or spin-off (2016)?, Halo 3 Aniversary (2017), Halo 6 (2018). Just think about it. As far as next-gen. If they don't announce at E3 2012 they are not launching in 2013. If they announce at E3 2013 with 2014 launch. Then they have just put Nintendo in the Dreamcast's shoes. Can Nintendo survive that? I personally understand if they wait though. They would have a chance to run Unreal 4 to its potential with waiting for right breed of graphics tech.
I think the part where you say that the AAA titles would be dead in the water is the other way around. What I'm trying to say is that new consoles need to be released with strong games to back them up, because that's what's gonna convince people to buy them (I waited to get my PS3 until Metal Gear 4 came out), but if big titles are released for the current console at the same time of the new one, then the console is gonna suffer on sales. I personally think that I'm not ready for a new console yet, there is still a lot my console does without any problems and the games are great. If another console gets released before 2014 then most likely I'm not gonna buy it until later on, like 2015 or something.
As cool as it sounds, there's too much "dream" going on here that it's probably too good for being true.
Now I just read a few comments above and the majority of them are like: Yeah Halo 2 was great etc Now I havent played Halo 2. But why is it a lot of gamers have said its crap then without spoiling anything? What was wrong with it that made many gamers hate it? Cause out of all the Halo games, its H2 that gets the hate.
It ended on a cliffhanger. That's the main reason that I can figure. I didn't care that it ended the way it did. I still loved the game.
It ended on a cliffhanger? But... don't most games (even movies) do that to help broaden for a sequel? Gears of War 2 post-credits Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood ending Dead Space 2 ending I don't see anyone giving those games a hard time.
Kran, the only reason I can think of is we Halo fans can be..."special".
Yeah...H2 anniversary as a launch title. That would be stupid. You'd think they'd just update Halo 3 AND Halo 2 for the 720, since disc space will no longer be an issue. How about launching with some new IPs?
I don't get how they could re-make Halo 2. I'm a huge Halo fan, and as a Halo fan - I know how fustrated everyone was with the cliffhanger ending. I don't think anyone would like to revisit that. Don't get me know Halo2 was revolutionary because it marked the start of "FPS-matchmaking on consoles" But it's not deserving of being a launch title for the next gen. Any remake shouldn't be used as a launch title, for that matter.
I think thats about right, Armageddon is kicking off in Europe and thats a large market. Makes sense to leave it as long as possible.
Makes a lot more sense to me then people saying Halo 4 launching on the new Xbox.
Nope launching in 2013 in the U.S. With a world wide launch in march 2014. Halo 2 bad choice.
halo in 2014 followed by halo 2015 and followed by halo 2016 and will be followed by halo 2017 and followed by halo again 2018,2019 2020......and so on..halo.
Most likely Microsoft won't do that, because if they were thinking about doing it. They would have done that before the first Halo or at least done them at the same time. Halo 2 is the one I like the most, after that is Halo 3 and then Halo Reach.
LMAO. I knew they would pull this nonsense with the halo anniversaries. Basically making you pay $40 per game when you should be able to get them both together. but why would they do that, when they can easily milk moronic people for HD collections that arent even collections. I mean, with the PS3 collections, most of them have 3 games for $40. that is $13.30 per game or, at the very most, $20. with microsoft it is $40 per game, and the graphics, despite their hype, look no better than any other HD collection. microsoft has no limit to how they will price gouge their fanbase. from jacking up xbox live to $60, to raising the prices of many of their arcade games to $20 for no reason whatsoever. to this most recent $99 xbox that costs $460 in the long run. Microsoft is a bunch of downright scam artists
That they are! But don't bother wasting your breath, because in the long run you'll be labeled the fanboy and business will go on as usual for Microsoft. As a gamer in general people don't have to hate a certain company or, be a fanboy to disagree with a company's business practices.
1. You claim HD collections are money milkers but justify it for Sony because some of their HD collections have upward of three games. When they both have come up with high priced remakes or offerings in their respective online stores. Therefore there is no worse company they are just trying to make money as companies do. 2. You have got to be kidding me with that $99 xbox rant. It is an option and the subsiding cost works for some people. Now if that makes Microsoft scum then so is: Sony Samsung LG Ford HTC Sprint Verizon ATT and the list goes on and on. I bet you have no problem buying a subsided phone and paying way more. This is an option therefore it isn't a scam but an option. I have no problem with you disagreeing with a company's business practice but when most other companies are doing the same and you praise one company and bash the other understanding that this isn't exclusive to Mircosoft then it heed to be addressed.
1) sure. just keep dancing around the fact that microsoft's remakes are horrendously overprice compared to the rest of the market. they know that people buy anything with halo in the name, so they can get away with exorbitant prices. even at their most expensive sony remakes are only HALF the price of your precious halo remakes. but yeah. continue to make half-ass rationalizations for this robbery. 2) there is a pretty clear difference between a phone service and a a 7 year old video game console. you should not have to pay $460 plus an additional $60 every consecutive year for a console this late in the current generation. what microsoft is essentially offering as justification are its streaming services. hello, you can get a Roku HD streaming device (or an equivalent) for $59 with no monthly fees or a PS3 for $250 or so (once again, with no yearly fees). every one of these services can be found elsewhere and cheaper. microsoft is not offering a single service that justifies such a ridiculously high price range. and if you cant see that, you are delusional. enjoy living in denial and allowing Microsoft to take advantage of your naivete, as well as that of other people.
I think its sad that the first "next gen" game rumored for the 720 or whatever they are calling it is a remake of an old game...just saying...
It is more likely they will release it this gen than next gen. Nostalgia can only go so far, and if you really wanted to play it you can get the pc version. Just look at resident evil 4 (milked like crazy) but by the time it came to resident evil hd version on ps3 and xbox it basically lost its novelty. I think the only game that pulled it really far was DOOM 1 (because it was multiplatform) and it was classified as a classic to ALL gamers not just fanboys