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Why Microsoft Won The Next-Gen By Losing This Gen

Zach of C-TechWorld.com writes;
Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all did very well this generation. Although it is not quite over, it’s safe to say that the next generation of consoles isn’t too far away from right now.

If we look at the history of the last two generations, and if we were to decide a winner of each of those by sales figures (whether or not all sales were gaming related) it’s clear Sony won both.

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LX-General-Kaos4201d ago (Edited 4201d ago )

I think Microsoft has a very fair chance to win next generation. Their brand awareness has drastically increased from last Gen, and they bring to the table the greatest online gaming structure in the history and likely future of gaming.

I myself use Xbox live as my go to service as far as competitive gaming is concerned. Within this current generation alone it would be Nintendo for my single player experiences, and Microsoft for the majority of my online competitive play. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I personally predict Nintendo and Microsoft having a very close race to the 1st place finish by the end of next generation. Obviously only time will tell.

Rated E For Everyone

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Captain Qwark 94201d ago

i think your nuts. the race will be between sony and ms for sure. i coldnt care less who wins so long as they both do great. sort of like this gen, the more success each gets, the more we win

nintendo is no longer my cup of tea and even though they kicked ass this gen and will likely do well next gen, i have no interest in the wii u at the moment

BlackTar1874201d ago

sad day when people call themselves gamer down vote your post full of Gamer win.

Unless it was the Nintendo line then i dunno.

but as gamers we want it to be close all the way down the stretch so their is incentive for exclusives and mutually awesome Mutli plats.

Captain Qwark 94200d ago

@blacktar

agreed lol. this site is very pro-sony though which is fine, they are a great company with a great system but there is no need to bash the others regularly lol.

unless it was the nintendo line but i hope they are successful as well. i didnt bash them, just said i dont have interest in them at this moment lol although the new mario is great.

Monkeycan84201d ago

how do you have so many bubbles???

greenpowerz4201d ago (Edited 4201d ago )

Well said

The spin in this article and from Sony fans makes American republicans look like school girls even more do after MSFT's report/last nights debate.

starchild4201d ago

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Democrats and Republicans are guilty of spin.

mamotte4201d ago

I dont hate you or like you, but you usually get a lot of hate... how in hell do you get so many bubbles?

miyamoto4201d ago

maybe he is part of a group of N Dub Nation group of Nintendo fans that form an organized tactic of bubbling him up?

They think they do a good job of promoting Nintendo but in my book they are spreading negativity all over the internet

if they have valid cause i would like to join them but i really can't find a good reason to support a platform for children, I am way past that stage.

doogiebear4201d ago

There's a big difference between winning the hearts of Casuals, and hardcore. As long as sony caters to hardcore, they'll always have a massive market. Kinect 2 and wii u can keep their casuals. Comparing ms and nintendo's audience to that of Sony is like comparing apples and oranges. Core gamers know where to go, and what to avoid.

ShaunCameron4201d ago

Yeah, there is a difference. And that's why Sega and Atari are no longer around. The "hardcore" crowd alone isn't big enough to carry any company over the top much less make catering to them a viable option. Nave have been and never will be. Even Nintendo and Microsoft found out the hard way with the N64, GC and the XB.

DigitalAnalog4201d ago

But your examples don't exactly justify your points. Each of the consoles you mentioned had disadvantages/mistakes that put them in the situation the were. For the N64, the PSX proved they can produce more games and wasn't limited to the storage provided by the cartridges. For the GC and XB shows what happens when you come into the industry very late ESPECIALLY when the competition continue to dominate in both sale and game quality.

The HC gamer crowd has allowed the NES, SNES and Genesis that spearheaded new competition with better equipped "templates" which is why the consoles with the most streamlined and "best" features now are dominating this gen.

JellyJelly4201d ago

Hardcore - Wonderbook, Playstation All-Stars.

Not hardcore - Halo 4, Forza Horizon.

Is that what you are saying?

Jazz41084201d ago (Edited 4201d ago )

What a unprofessional childish fanboy written article. Its purley opinion and written like it came from a 8th grader.

miyamoto4201d ago (Edited 4201d ago )

"but Microsoft was the smartest out of these three."

Really?

Like Steve Ballmer, Microsoft has no vision like Sony PlayStation for gaming
Steve Balmmer does not understand the culture of video gaming
And your money is on him?

Sony PlayStation has a vision to push how games are made to technical excellence while M$ & Nintendo are in this only for the money.

Sony PlayStation had a vision to stop piracy with BluRay and now with Gaikai. That is why they are lost money money on PS3 so they can have piracy out of the way in the long run while M$ & Nintendo Xbox 360 & wii are massively pirated platforms that uses software piracy for hardware leverage

Sony PlayStation with Gaikai will put video gaming mainstream again into a broader audience yet again by putting games on any digital device possible.

Sony PlayStation knows where they are going while you can asses the other two are running out of ideas!

Sony PlayStation will continue to nurture & take care of this industry no matter what while the other two only think about themselves.

Xbox 360 has just repeated the original Xbox this gen.

It brought nothing new to the table. Sony has shown this generation that software piracy can be stopped on a grand scale if not completely.

M$ with its billions has FAILED big time to put smaller companies like Nintendo & Sony out of the game because it has no genuine interest for the sake of gaming. All it cares about is how to extract money from the industry.

All it does is copy the two Japanese veterans.

Piracy is a very serious serial killer of development houses & publishers and if M$ or Nintendo does care at least they should have done their part.

braydox214201d ago

im not so sure about nintendo being in the for the cash, Nintendo iv'e always seen them as good for introducing their own unique ideas and just beating their own drum and just doing their own thing not just caring about whats in our wallets.

Knight_Crawler4201d ago

Those bubbles!!!!!

ZOMG can I has one plezzzzzz :(

Unlimax4201d ago

Don't Touch his bubbles xD !

AlucardFury4201d ago

I have this setup too, I can't see it changing myself.

Unlimax4201d ago (Edited 4201d ago )

Excuse me, my dear ~

Just realized the way you think in the "love of video games" alleged that you personally believe in ..You from those people who do not support the gaming industry open and receptive openness to other devices in the Sportsmanship , but so as not to give other devices a chance to convince them that's why they standing position aligned next to those companies !

Painful truth that Nintendo Fans HATES the success of the Playstation system's so much till this day .. For this reason they are standing position siding next to other companies against Sony !

Probably I'm out from the framework of the subject but I have had no other option to answer only these words, perhaps some people feel a little of what is happening around them.

Personal advice from me ..Do not let your interest confined to just one thing because you hate!

Oh and by talking about it .. You make me feel like you are a staff by Nintendo Co. in the way you comment on all the news .

Pillsbury14201d ago

That is an a$$ ton of disagrees. M$ does not care about the core gamer they will only cater to the casuals and improve there arm flailing recognition system, and charge you to play online.

Rated M for Mature

yavorsv4201d ago (Edited 4201d ago )

For those who are wondering. He has "so many" bubbles, because he is not hateful. He doesn't diss the other consoles and fans. He responds to the hate towards him with kindness. Yes he talks like Nintendo PR, but he never leaves his character. He maybe a little annoying at times, but if you are so much better you will ignore him like most clever people will do.
IF you noticed Nintendo is like that,too. They don't bash. Unlike others... :D

LX-General-Kaos4201d ago

Thanks for the support and positive attitude man

dubt724201d ago

My one bubble comes from pure Sony hatred, so what he says does ring true...

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Norrison4201d ago

PC: Multiplayer
PS3 & Xbox360: Singleplayer (MP only in exclusive games)

DeadlyFire4201d ago

I disagree, but that's just my opinion.

XBL yes is great, but unless it goes free next generation I can see a tidal shift to Playstation/Nintendo. One of Nintendo's new main focuses will be on Multiplatform games. That was X360's focus as well, but you have to throw some core games into the mix. Nintendo's new network will be free as well. Which will make a big difference with a cheaper console.

One main problem with this generation has been RAM and heating issues. For the PS3 it was the divided RAM causing problems with ported games. Meanwhile for the X360 it was the RROD. Hopefully that won't be a problem next generation for either console.

I personally believe Nintendo and Sony will be edging it out with next generation leaving Microsoft in the dust. Microsoft will not let this happen though without a fight. I suspect a price cut on XBL at some point if it does happen.

DA_SHREDDER4201d ago

Competitive gaming? Watch out overyone, we have a competitive gamer here! Everyone hide your controllers!

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pixelsword4200d ago

He that blesses his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, it shall be counted a curse to him.

Proverbs 27:14

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lilbroRx4201d ago

Microsoft has won no gens because their business practices prevent it. They are not going to change how they do business so nothing else is going to change.

Steven214201d ago

They're a bunch of crooks who nickel and dime their customers

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ALLWRONG4201d ago

At least MS never went from first to last. Silver is better than bronze.

HammadTheBeast4201d ago (Edited 4201d ago )

Because Last to Last is such a better outlook for them.

smashcrashbash4201d ago

Yeah they aren't hasbeens they were neverweres. Microsoft has never dominated a gen and people are making a big deal because they are only now catching up and this gen is almost over. At least both Nintendo and Sony enjoyed dominating each of their gens. Sony and Nintendo each ruled at least two gens. How many have Microsoft ruled? Have they sold as many systems as the Wii or the PS1 or a PS2? Being in second place after two gens of trying is nothing to boast about and yet every one always does. They are STILL in the middle after years of trying and now Nintendo has their system out first and Sony probably isn't far behind. Even with Nintendo giving up on the Wii they STILL haven't passed it. 'look we are selling more systems now that this gen is almost over. We still haven't out paced Sony by a great amount and are still trailing behind the Wii but that is great news somehow' Let's face it. The only question is whose b***h Microsoft's system is going to be next gen Sony's or Nintendo's. Call me when they dominate a gen and don't spend it in-between systems.

NeverEnding19894200d ago

SONY failed this gen going from hero to zero.

Microsoft went from last to 2nd with no sign of stopping. Micosoft are the babies of the console wars and they've already passed the former great, SONY.

It looks like SONY will continue its downward trend if PS4 specs rumours turn out to be true.

Cam9774201d ago

Let the best contender win.
Good luck.

zebramocha4201d ago

Am I the only one who find it suspicious that when it comes to who wins next gen, for Ms it proclaimed but for Sony/nintendo it's suggested?

rezzah4201d ago

The media likes to shape the populations ideals.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere7h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN4h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos2h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger4h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto6h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos6h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long3h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel5h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator4h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg8h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos7h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola3h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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