Insomniac talks: Not going multiplatform, new studio and more

Nitrowolf2 - 112 days 17 hours ago

Please, don't mention him and valve clearly every dev out there that makes games continuosle for ps3 (exclusive and multiplat) are clearly better devs.

yah but they are not lazy, glad that they are getting use to the ps3 programming

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mdkgod43 - 112 days 16 hours ago

im glad there not going multiplat stay with Sony the best

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Maldread - 112 days 16 hours ago

Yeah, hope R3 is on it`s way, even if R2 didn`t sell all that great. Even though i don`t care for Newell much (hey, maybe we should just name him Newman from Seinfeld instead, the similarities are many), i would like to see Valve games on PS3. Even though they isn`t the most tech capable company around, they do make good games.

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fermcr11 - 112 days 16 hours ago

"Insomniac talks: Not going multiplatform, new studio and more"

Well ... lot of PS3 fanboys in N4G have been bashing Valve for the last days (months, years).

... so now i guess it's time for X360 fanboys to start bashing Insomniac, calling them names and start posting stupid articles because they don't go multiplatform.

... just kidding. I hope they are more mature then some people here in N4G ;)

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randomwiz - 112 days 16 hours ago

insomniac makes crap games? R1, R2, R&C. Obviously you haven't played any insomniac games

@fermcr11
please see post 1.2 in the open zone. I don't think I can describe the valve situation better than he did.

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ultimolu - 112 days 15 hours ago

Me neither. I don't care what anyone says. For me, Resistance 2 was really good.

And socomnick dear, get something called a reality check.

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Maddens Raiders - 112 days 15 hours ago

that's true. It's just that I can't imagine Insomniac coming out and basically saying, "Phuck the XBOX360 hardware and the fans that play it," because that's basically what Newell (Newman) has been doing for the last 2 years. He, Kotick and Bushnell are all nuts; relatively speaking, imho.

To shun the PS brand and it's worldwide base, to me, just shows a real lack of maturity, history of the industry, and dedication to one's craft. If anything I'm glad he said it - the exposure of a fraud couldn't be more self evident.

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darthv72 - 112 days 15 hours ago

I honestly would like to see some of their creativity brought to a system like the ds/dsi. Considering the similarities of the ps3/360 it wouldnt be much of a difference for them to make a 360 game (be nice but wont happen). A varied platform with enough differences to warrent even trying to see what could be done is what they need.

PSP is very similar to the ps2 so there is nothing really challenging there. Wii with the motion controls are pointless as they could make a better motion controled game for the ps3. That really leaves only one platform that could really pose no real threat to any other competitor. DS/DSi. I think they could make a great game with touch screen interaction. Would it be a fps or action/adv game?

Considering their choice to remain ps specific I guess we will never know. Great talent they are and you can respect their decisions to remain specific but it does make you wonder if they have at least tried it to see if they could.

Respect to insomniac. Res 3 details at gamescom please!

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vega75 - 112 days 15 hours ago

360 only owner don't act as sonyfan do when it comes to dev's not bring their games over to the 360.thats the maturity level of the 360 fanbase. unlike sonyfan who feels that dev's that don't support their system are lazy or being payed from MS not to. we just don't care.

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morganfell - 112 days 15 hours ago

There is a difference between Insomniac and Valve. Insomniac's decision to remain with a single platform IS NOT based on their inability to program for another platform nor is it caused by child like illogical hate for another system.

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Xi - 112 days 15 hours ago

Valves decision to remain dedicated to 1 platform isn't based on their "inability to program" or "childish hate" but on their high standards of quality.

Valve develops on the 360 because the can provide the 360 with support similar to that of their PC games, and they do not have the in house support to do the same for the ps3. The last thing they want is to develop a product that has the same problems as that of the orange box, which was outsourced to ea-uk hence the lack of support. Like he said in the gttv interview if you happened to actually watch it instead of reading the 15 flame articles afterwards that completely ignored his argument and just bashed him for being pc/360 exclusive.

It's about quality for valve, not money, and definitely not skill, otherwise valve wouldn't have some of the greatest rated and highest awarded games ever made. Or some of the most highly praised modding and development tools available. Or some of the largest online communities.

To me it sound's like there are a bunch of people who are upset purely because they don't get to play valve games. Why does insomniac get a free ride? because they're PlayStation exclusive? People like you claim negative press about the ps3, yet in the last week there's more shots at the valve/Newell and Carmack for not being 'skilled' even though they're luminaries in their field. Not to mention Carmack being a huge supporter of opengl and is developing rage and id tech 5 for use with Mac's, and valve developing a ps2 version of half life.

People think the ps3 is harder to develop for because of the architecture, it's because of the tools. Tessellation, domain shaders, hull shaders, memexport function, unified shaders all of these hardware supported features were completely new when the 360 launched and developers had to learn how to use them, just like developers have to learn parallel programming on an asymmetric cpu in the ps3.

honestly, it just seems like people have stupid double standards.

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 112 days 14 hours ago

PS3 owners aren't hating on Valve because they make games exclusively on PC & 360 we know why but the hate is because of what he said about PS3 and how Sony should take it back and redo it to be easier that's the problem they complain about PS3 being hard and wants Sony to take it back to change it without them even making 1 game to justify there words and that's why ppl hate Valve and Gabe and call them lazy

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kwyjibo - 112 days 14 hours ago

Really How many 360 specialists do you think Insomniac have right now? About as many PS3 specialists at Valve I guess.

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OnlyOnN4G - 112 days 14 hours ago

And they would need those "specialists" because of the 360's UNIQUE achitecture???
o_0

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Nitrowolf2 - 112 days 13 hours ago

I think allot of people took my comment wrong, my fault it sounded like i was saying valve is not lazy, i meant insomniac is not lazy, and valve is.

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QuackPot - 112 days 10 hours ago

Don't give a frack about Gabe anymore - he's a diehard M$ fanboy.

Just gone back to playing Halo 3 again, and it truly is a great game. BTW Warhawk easily beats H3 for fun online gameplay.

I just hope Insomniac would just copy the pros from Halo 3 and put it in R3. Especially, I'd love to see R3 go MODERN WARFARE and include fully usable vehicles.

Had Resistance:Fall of Man been set in the modern era, had fully usable vehicles as well as epic settings and levels, inspiring sound track, fun characters, then it would have easily been as good as Halo.

Copy Insomniac, copy.

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Sarcasm - 112 days 10 hours ago

Wow, a Resistance set in modern times would be F'in awesome! Note to Insomniac, make Resistance 3 in 2010!

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morganfell - 112 days 9 hours ago

Ha ha ha OnlyOnN4G. Your comment was dead bang on the money. Bubbles.

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cmrbe - 112 days 7 hours ago

No they are different.

1. Valve 3rd party, I.G second party.

2. Ted Price is a gentleman, Gabe is s fat princess. Nah just kidding. Its all good. Gabe apologise for his outburst so we are cool. They can develop exclusively for the x360 as long as they want.

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morganfell - 112 days 5 hours ago

Which outburst was it for which he apologized? They have been numerous.

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Tony Scarboni - 112 days 5 hours ago

Valve and Insomniac couldn't be anymore different. Insomniac has been making PS games since it became a dev, Valve has always been a PC dev who puts out a console title every now and then.

If you ask me Valve is just too cheap to spend money dev a PS3 version that probably won't sell as much as they like. Look at what they're doing for L4D2, whether or not its worth 60$, when its the only game your company is putting out for the year, you pretty much have to put it at full price.

Valve is just becoming outdated. The Source engine is starting to get reallly awful looking, and their last two gamese(portal + L4D) were mods!

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zlatko - 112 days 4 hours ago

Resistance 3 better be next year. I played the crap out of Resistance 1 and 2. Though the storyline isn't the best I do enjoy the online gameplay to its fullest. :)

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QuackPot - 112 days 9 hours ago

You got a disagree for saying Yes.

These kiddie 'tards that frequent this site are pathetic.

If you don't agree with the Yes then why not reply "NO" so we can ID you 'tard.

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ArsArcanum - 112 days 7 hours ago

i disagreed with that comment since I don't think a yes no question was asked and hes not contributing anything at all with a one word comment

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Sarcasm - 112 days 10 hours ago

And not only for the games, it seems like in general it's a great place to work.

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tigersnake86 - 112 days 10 hours ago

good to see them sticking to one platform and maximizing its potential.

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evrfighter - 112 days 7 hours ago

"good to see them sticking to one platform and maximizing its potential. "

thats the truth right there. I'm glad Valve decided on stickin with what they do best :D

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callahan09 - 112 days 16 hours ago

Insomniac never said they weren't making games for other platforms because of the architecture and challenges of those platforms. They just aren't. No excuses. Just a decision. That's what distinguishes them from Valve. They make games exclusively for PS3 because they want to, it's not that they DON'T make games for other platforms because they choose to snub them. Their decision really has nothing to do with other platforms. They don't ignore other platforms out of spite or laziness, they just focus on the one platform that has always been there for them, working for the publisher that has always had their back.

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Maldread - 112 days 16 hours ago

How about you watch the video before you comment ;)

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doG beLIEfs - 112 days 16 hours ago

I hope u r being sarcastic with that comment. If not, then see the 1st reply as to why there is as big a gap in being humble and NOT a blatant lazy fanboy developer like Valve as there is between the "creation museum" and reality.

They don't bash other systems or say things like the MS should just scrap the 360 and start over. (just like Gabe REALLY said about the PS3 in 2007)

Instead they say things like getting the most out of the machine, learning and building bigger and better games using the CELL.

Class and humility.....Insomniac does NOT get enough credit for what they have done ESPECIALLY with the so-called hard to develop for PS3. Hey, its so hard that they are pumping out over a game a year.

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The Wood - 112 days 15 hours ago

watch the video b4 u comment... If you didnt then thats just dumb....if you did then thats just dumber

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ultimolu - 112 days 15 hours ago

Please let people know when you're using sarcasm because that has got to be the dumbest thing I have EVER heard around here.

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Maddens Raiders - 112 days 15 hours ago

your comment is spot on. I suppose that's the reason for all the disagrees.

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Jaces - 112 days 15 hours ago

Sorry...I don't recall Insomniac complaining about the infrastructure of the 360, so they decided it was better to stay exclusive.

That's the difference between them and Gabe, they would take up a challenge rather than complain and whine.

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Wakka_ - 112 days 15 hours ago

LOL @ Sony fanboys. Valve actually bothered to work on the PS3; Insomniac hasn't even looked into the 360. Insomniac are lazier than Valve. At least Valve develops for two platforms, ya?

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Jaces - 112 days 15 hours ago

Actually valve had nothing to do with the Orange Box port.

That was all EA, so ya.

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wxer - 112 days 15 hours ago

@ Wakka_

actually its the other way around
working for the ps3 is harder
its like working with 2 or more platforms already
and they are working on more than one games
so they got there hands full already
and VALVE are mad
and they didn't even bother to do the port
EA did

and yah VALVE are lazy

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 112 days 14 hours ago

let me ask you who publishes and pays Valve for the development cost answer EA and who publishes and owns every IP Insomniac games makes answer Sony . you got owned b!tch and 1 more thing FFX sucks

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kwyjibo - 112 days 14 hours ago

Quote - "working for the ps3 is harder its like working with 2 or more platforms already"

If that were true, and it isn't, then Sony must have put together the most ridiculously stupidly architectured console ever.

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Quote - "That's what distinguishes them from Valve. They make games exclusively for PS3 because they want to."

Yes, and Valve make games for PC/360 because they want to. There's no difference, other than Valve have been explicit in their reasons why, and Insomniac have been all lovey-dovey. Insomniac obviously have the better PR.

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OnlyOnN4G - 112 days 15 hours ago

Wow, you seem to be working your way up through sony's first and second party devs leaving everytime an article regarding any of them pops up. yesterday it was ND leaving, if sony doesn't drop the price of the ps3 and now, today its insominiac after they've released resistance 3, I think you need a new crystal ball.

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 112 days 14 hours ago

you are aware 1 of the reasons Insomniac has stayed with Sony since PSOne was because Sony pays them to make the games Insomniac wants to make and because Sony publishes all there games so after Resistance 3 they won't leave

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mrv321 - 112 days 17 hours ago

Well mainly because Insomniac has been making games on the playstation for quite a while now, this is like Insomniac returning the favour for helping them get to where they are today, and in return they get help to make games better with developers such as Guerilla... something third parties don't get.

While Valve doesn't owe much to the Xbox BRAND but have formed a loyalty of sorts without much in return as side from possiple money. Also the droids don't hate on the games they hate the slander, I have never heard Insomniac talk poorly about another console THEY just like making games on PS3 but Gabe seems to go out of his way to say stuff that can be considered poorly advised at best.

To compare Valve to Insomniac is quite stupid to be honest, both operate differently. And yes I understand Valve has loyalty to Windows seeing as it is it's main platform but to hate on another console seems wrong somehow.

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Maldread - 112 days 17 hours ago

I`m sure a lot of 360 fans would (and should) be glad if Insomniac would make games for 360, even if they won`t admit it. Just as i`m sure a lot of PS3 fans would be if Valve did they same. Both studios are great if you ask me, even though Valve talks way more negative, while Insomniac has never said anything bad about 360.

EDIT : well said mrv321, have a bubble :)

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AuRoN89 - 112 days 16 hours ago

What?

You Gay? Yes!

I don't bother if Valve hate PS3, i'll take the SUPERIOR PC version of any Valve Game, and YOU stupid xbot, will play INFERIOR dvd capable 360°C mini-furnace version.

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_vx - 112 days 16 hours ago

epic fail hahaha
those guys wont go multi cuz they know if they did the downgrade effcet of the Xbutt will crash their amazing games and a 60 player game on X-live will just crash the whole XL server

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DeathroW22 - 112 days 16 hours ago

There is a difference though, insomniac are in exclusive contracts with sony. Sony fund and own all their IP's (The franchise, name, everything). The only different between Naughty dog (owned by sony) and insomniac is that insomniac operate as a seperate company.

Whereas valve are not in any exclusive contracts with microsoft and the only reason they don't make PS3 games is because they don't have enough man power to do so.

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Maldread - 112 days 16 hours ago

Considering Newell is the size of 2-3 men, are you sure they dosn`t have enough man power ? ;)

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A_Little_Girl - 112 days 16 hours ago

youre just a jealous hick who cant afford a ps3

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ultimolu - 112 days 15 hours ago

You sure as hell cared that FFXIII was going multiplatform. You sure as hell cared about those MGS4 rumors.

Shut the hell up. Not everyone cared about Valve.

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Patchstation 3 - 112 days 14 hours ago

I don't care...If they announced a 360 game next week, I will laugh at you droids on N4G, but it wouldn't change my life none.

Ask me if FFXIII matters...I laughed when it happened but if it never did I wouldn't care either way because JRPG is not my thing. Metal Gear Solid is welcome to the 360 any day or time.

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solar - 112 days 13 hours ago

you babies are so butt hurt when someone talks bad about the ps3 its hilarious. i went out into my living room the other day...and i saw a ball of dust humping my HDTV. after a few seconds i realized it was my ps3 because i havent had a reason to turn it on in months.

"youre just a jealous hick who cant afford a ps3"

because he spent his money on a much better platform. a PC.

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bennyace - 112 days 9 hours ago

How people say that the Xbox 360 doesn't have good games but they all play them on PC! Wonder why...

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Guitarded - 112 days 14 hours ago

Insomniac are paid to develop exclusively for PS3. Valve just knows the PS3 sucks and CHOOSES not to develop for the joke that is the PS3. Gabe owned all you dumba$$es and all you can do is call him fat and lazy. Losers!
I just hope that Gabe gets some help with his weight problem. It would be a shame to loose such an intelligent and talented human to the complications caused by obesity.

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Seven_ate_Nine - 112 days 9 hours ago

"besides xbox live cant handle 256* player online"

fixed

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The-Warranty - 112 days 16 hours ago

wahhh wahhhhh no resistance only MOAR Halo!

wahhh wahhh

that about sums it up right?

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mrv321 - 112 days 10 hours ago

I just saw something...

You complained about fanboys... which is just but your evidence is flawes, since when hasn't 360 complained about the PS3? Last I checked the PS3 has gotten the most hatred.

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The-Warranty - 112 days 16 hours ago

so whos squirming?

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peeler fan - 112 days 16 hours ago

but not needed. Xbox has plenty of shooters and many other genres of gaming so really it is insomniac's loss not 360 owners.

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OnlyOnN4G - 112 days 14 hours ago

R&C is a platformer not a shooter, something which the 360 lacks, therefore its your loss not insomniacs

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The-Warranty - 112 days 16 hours ago

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vega75 - 112 days 16 hours ago

you don't have to tell me i brought both copies used at gamestop. it's nothing for 360 only owner to get upset with. unlike the sonyfanboys with valve,epic, and other companies that support the 360 over the PS3. or don't make games multi-plat for their system.

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duplissi - 112 days 14 hours ago

tsk tsk when will you ppl learn.......

my my so much hatred/loyalty for a amalgamation of plastic, silicon, and metal- that really doesnt matter all that much when it all comes down to it

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Tinted Eyes - 112 days 15 hours ago

resistance online is great

if xbox owners accept the crap that is gears 2 online i think they will love resistance online

but they cant.....

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Double Toasted - 112 days 15 hours ago

then I'm sure it is... great. Ignorance is bliss...

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vega75 - 112 days 15 hours ago

i asked a sonyfanboy the other day whats the most played MP online game on PSN. i have a good feeling R1,2 and KZ2 would either be at the bottom of the list or not on there at all.

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duplissi - 112 days 14 hours ago

actually, theyre at the top my little brained fellows

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vega75 - 112 days 13 hours ago

care to back that up with a link. cause i don't see that any where on the PSN network or any blog.

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saimcheeda - 112 days 15 hours ago

well said!

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vega75 - 112 days 13 hours ago

"I know it hurts u to pay 50$ 4 p2p and loud screaming kids" i have a job and don't depend on mommy and daddy to buy my games or system. so paying 50 for 13 months isn't a problem for me. i guess it wouldn't be a problem for you if you had the money instead of paying for a over-price gaming system when all you could aford is one or two games a year.

as far as the kids screaming part.LMFAO. you know what the beautiful thing about live. let me tell you so you and all sonyfanboys can get. see there a little thing called a MUTE BUTTON. i know it's hard to beleive that live has such a thing. but it doesn't stop there.no. that BUTTON allows me to mute anyone on the annoys me in the game. plus i could kick them from the room. but i guess you wouldn't know that since PoS3 don't come with headsets. so it's hard to tell who your playing with. and the best part about having a headset with my game system. i can better communicate with my friends with games like CoD4,gears,halo and all MP games. where as with the PoS3 i can't because not many people have a mic. guess with all the money they sent on the ps3. they can't aford one.

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BaseballFan15 - 112 days 12 hours ago

Don't lie. We all know that you have zero friends.

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na2ru1 - 112 days 11 hours ago

how many times has those POS headsets broke? The little metal jack snaps since it's a cheap a*s crap

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Mooey - 112 days 9 hours ago

BU BU BU BUT the PS3 is the hardest system to develop for, and it cranks out Resistance 1/2 which look way better than lazy Valve.

Jealous?

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mezzo - 112 days 7 hours ago

Thats what you call a loyal company, thats a company that stayed with their original place from the start didn't even left when the chips were down unlike many other betraying 2 timers .

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