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Grand Theft Auto IV back on top, Haze outselling CoD:WaW

Spending a large portion on 2008 sitting in the gutter after its inital release, maybe Rockstar where right in saying they're confident GTA IV can reach 10 million units. Play.com is the Uks biggest online retailer for consumer electronics...
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Published: 310 days 23 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Nintendo DS | Gaming | Industry News
 
 

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Sasanova - 312 days 18 hours ago
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HAZE MAKING A COMEBACK WOOT LOOOOOOL
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MGOelite - 312 days 18 hours ago
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hmm i pretty sure this data is false
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mrdxpr2 - 312 days 16 hours ago
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oh yeah its false a $20 if play has it at 20 ...but im gona buy haze soon for $20 shot new thats a bagain for me i can play it when i move out and have something to do when i get home from work
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jammy_70 - 310 days 22 hours ago
1.3 - o haze
you've made my day :)

waw aint that good anyway
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Harry Pothead - 310 days 19 hours ago
1.4 - if haze is selling...
i think its becuase gamers dont want free radical to die.
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PirateThom - 310 days 19 hours ago
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Nope, it's because it's 9.99 on Play.com
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Karum - 310 days 17 hours ago
1.6 - MGOelite
See for yourself.

http://www.play.com/Games/G...
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The Dude - 310 days 16 hours ago
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Haze just goes to prove how much you ps3 fans love shovelware.
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NickIni - 310 days 16 hours ago
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No, Haze proves that for £10 - you can't go wrong.
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shovelbum - 310 days 15 hours ago
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I would not give a dollar for that POS yet alone ever play it again. It is horrible on every front and has not one redeeming factor.
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Tempist - 310 days 15 hours ago
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Read the article next time. Haze is beating COD:WaW ON PC ONLY. It's not beating COD:WaW 360 or PS3.
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Kleptic - 310 days 13 hours ago
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Haze was just discontinued...and the price was probably dropped to get it off shelves...its available in the US at Target for under $20 new...at leat my local target...

@The Dude...PS3 fans love shovelware?...Wasn't Too Human the first game to knock GTAIV off the top of the 360's sales charts last year?...over 1 million people bought that floater...

Even if Haze sells completely out...that will put the grand total of people owning most likely under what Too Human sold in 1 day...gtfo
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PirateThom - 310 days 13 hours ago
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I wouldn't say Haze is "shovelware", it took longer than a week to produce and had some level of effort put into it, but it does go to show. People will buy any piece of crap, as long as it's cheap.
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ravinash - 310 days 12 hours ago
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Everything has its price point where people will think its worth it...even Haze.
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rockleex - 310 days 10 hours ago
1.14 - Just like the 360...
Everything has its price point where people will think its worth it.

At $199, you can't possibly go wrong... or can you?

At least Haze won't brick your console. <_<
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jakhtar87 - 310 days 2 hours ago
1.15 - PS3 rocks
Hey dude... see the list of top sellers at PLAY.com....

LBP and GTA4(PS3) are on top respectively at 1 and 2 position ....
HAZE at 24 not at 25.

KILLZONE 2 at top on pre-order list.

PLAYSTATION 3 ..... This is living
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SlyGuy - 310 days 2 hours ago
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BOOOOSH!!!
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anthonyp01 - 312 days 16 hours ago
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Is this really news? i mean common really...
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myothercar - 310 days 17 hours ago
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Damn, I clicked that piece-o-s*** article and gave it a hit. That was pathetic. Haze probably was on clearance or something. This was a useless article.

Well, I wouldn't say completely useless- it did generate a hit, and that's all anyone cares about these days anymore, you know?
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Kleptic - 310 days 13 hours ago
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Haze IS discontinued...Free Radical went under (sucks that Haze was their last game too...the guys that started out in shooters with Goleneye, then Timesplitters, released...Haze...then folded)...and the game has been discounted worldwide accordingly...there was an article about it last week...
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ThanatosDMC - 310 days 4 hours ago
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Of course, at a discounted price point, crap would sell... just like some other thing that is at a lower price point. =p
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callahan09 - 312 days 14 hours ago
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Haze was a good game. There, I said it.

Positives: No loading screens (completely seamless from start to finish), smooth frame-rate, good story, good controls, some unique factors like slide-tackles and disarming enemies, the nectar gameplay quirks are pretty interesting and can add some fun to it all, some very good voice acting.

Negatives: Mediocre graphics, some very annoying voice acting, some bland level designs.

Overall, I'd give it a "Shouldn't have been so harshly criticized, and now I'm sad for Free Radical's demise."
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Graphics Whore - 310 days 23 hours ago
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I'm going to disagree however I did have fun with Haze. There were fun parts just like there were in Too Human, still bad games however.
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Obama - 310 days 22 hours ago
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I was never hyped by lair and haze. Judging from the gameplay videos I knew these two are going to be bad.
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jadenkorri - 310 days 19 hours ago
3.3 - LAIR?
Lair was awsome, if it just wasn't rushed, and had more levels, and people claiming it sucked due to just using six axis as the flight controls pre patch...i say learn the controls, you'll enjoy it greatly.
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pixelsword - 310 days 17 hours ago
3.4 - Lair is awesome
It was never broken, I'll say that time and again. The only big problem it had was the instructions on how to control your dragon was not detailed, so it left many people who couldn't figure it out on the outs with that game. At first I had a problem with the 180 and dash, but a friend named Zafro taught me how to do it, and I got all golds before the patch came out,

plus I wrote a tutorial on it:

http://boardsus.playstation...

I am also in the top 100 worldwide, and the top 25 in the US in that game.
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Danja - 310 days 16 hours ago
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I still own my copy of both Haze and Lair ..

Haze as was mentioned IMO is a very solid game , Hype was what made this game terrible to the public's eye not the game itself...

as for Lair I was defending this game from day one other than repetitive missions and a bad targeting systems..and a few difficult to do 180 turns..it was a good game.
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Ju - 310 days 14 hours ago
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I think Haze wasn't a bad game. It is in fact the only (console?) game available to date which does seamless 4 player co-op multiplayer with drop-in drop-out. You just jump in and help someone out. Adds some fun factor. I also think the visuals weren't that bad either. Could have been more, though. But for 10 bucks I think its easily worth it.
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idontcare - 310 days 14 hours ago
3.7 - @pixelsword
hm, i think if Lair's controls need a tutorial like this then there must be something wrong.

btw. i played Lair and i had no problems to control the dragon .. but the game svcked.
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YonasJonas - 310 days 14 hours ago
3.8 - Damn you guys are in some major denial.
Haze was easily the worst game I played this gen, and I've played a lot of games. Heck is was one of the worst games I've played for its time even.
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Kleptic - 310 days 13 hours ago
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Lair was the biggest failure review wise I have ever read...

I am not saying that it got the worst reviews...I am saying that it was criticized for ALL the wrong reasons...just so happened that it was just as bad of a game as what most were saying...but that they were saying it was bad for the wrong reasons...

it was the controls that nearly every reviewer jumped on for it sucking...which could not have been further from the truth imo...for me...the controls were the ONLY thing that kept it even slightly interesting for 20 minutes...other than that, sound and visually...the game was actually pretty good...while pushing 1080p at 60fps over any AA might have been more of a marketing move than anything...the game still looked impressive at times...

but what made Lair suck?...EVERYTHING else...absolutely horrible level/objective design...'go fly over here and spam fireballs that this thing'...'go protect this dragon and spam fireballs at everything'...'go land by that trebuchet and spam fireballs at ground troops'...etc...with ridiculous frat boys on all the other dragons constantly yelling at you in cheesy fashion...it was awful...

combat was equally retarded...the scale of everything was simply too big for them to try any up close combat...spitting fireballs at other dragons was simply ridiculous...as you just locked onto them and fired as many as possible until you couldn't lock on anymore (which I guess means you killed it or something)...not to mention...the mounting other dragons and claw/scratch/bite/firebreathe mechanic was funnier than any other thing in gaming...arguably ever...

the story was equally stomach churning...with the age old 'am I on the good side or not' question brought up, laced with horrendous writing...it was terrible...played out like C movie writing with blockbuster visuals budgets...it was like Uwe Boll's movie version of Lair was available in the game box...

but reviewers rarely touched on that stuff...they usually said everything was pretty decent...but that the controls broke the overall game...wrong imo...the controls actually kept it from getting a 2/10 for me...they actually worked...if anyone spent more than 2 minutes with the game...or actually played it...they would see how retarded the reviews were...even if they did end up giving the game a fair score...

and to say Haze or Lair was the worst game you ever played this gen...you simply haven't tried all the demos that XBL and the PSN get sometimes...go download Conflict: Denied Ops or Dynasty Warriors: Gundam...both of those games are perfect examples of when a developer does not get a single thing correct...at least lair and Haze did one or two things correctly...
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ThanatosDMC - 310 days 4 hours ago
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I liked Lair. Bought it a few months ago. I wish it was a free roam kind of game or at least somewhat like PS2's Drakkan.

It would be nice explore the world to fight and kill huge monster like that flying lobster/ crawfish/ shrimp thing (that mission was SO random).

Lighting on Lair sucked balls though... wish they fixed it more. Remember the raid mission with all those spotlights? Yeah, but to see the game through the end was pretty worth it.
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theEnemy - 310 days 23 hours ago
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"<GTA:4 Image here>

Spending a large portion on 2008 sitting in the gutter after its inital release, maybe Rockstar where right in saying they’re confident GTA IV can reach 10 million units. Play.com is the Uks biggest online retailer for consumer electronics, and currently today the top two games sellers are Grand Thaft Auto IV for the Xbox 360 and PS3 in first and second respectabley. And the PS3 ‘halo killer’ turned flop Haze sits at 25, putting it ahead of Brain Training, Soul Calibur IV, Tom Clancys EndWar, Call of Duty: WaW on PC, Left 4 Dead PC and Far Cry 2 for the Xbox 360."

There ya have it.

The whole article.

-_-
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darkpower - 310 days 23 hours ago
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GTA4 I can understand since some people will want to rebuy it knowing the first of the DLC episodes are FINALLY coming out (or buying it for the first time).

But HAZE?! Am I DREAMING? Didn't people say that that game sucked ass? What am I missing on that one?
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NickIni - 310 days 16 hours ago
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It's £10. Hell, I might even pick it up for a tenner.
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Adropacrich2 - 310 days 22 hours ago
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I played Haze a bit about a month ago and although it was blurry as f!ck, the game felt exceptional regards to it's weapons and atmosphere

Didn't unfortunately play it for very long to know if it was entirely great as a game but i'd have bought it in a second if also released on 360

This game certainly shows how PS3 tends to be less sharp than the 360(though clearly PS3 has raw performance in other ares) but Haze's use of the unreal engine was really what made the graphics so cloudy i guess as they were also quite blurred on Bioshock

Shame i'll never play this
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ar - 310 days 21 hours ago
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Free Radical used an inhouse developed engine for Haze, not the UE.
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Kleptic - 310 days 13 hours ago
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yeah dude...you have zero clue what you are talking about...

Haze used a proprietary engine...not UE3...the game also ran in like 545p...it did nothing to illustrate how 'ps3 games are usually less sharp than the 360'...as that is rarely true...it happens a lot with lesser developers, with small budgets...but Haze still would have looked like butt water even if it was on the 360...probably even on a PC with a competitive resolution...

Haze and MGS4 released in the same window...one was the worst looking exclusives so far this gen...and one still stands as the best looking console game ever made so far...which was also only on the Ps3...and is only set to be dethroned by another certain PS3 title...
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Hiruma Youchi - 310 days 22 hours ago
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GTA4 is a good game , face it people , if it was lame nobody would be buying it at this point.
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Graphics Whore - 310 days 21 hours ago
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If you want to believe that sure, go ahead.

It IS a good game.

Is it the game we all thought it would be? Not even close.
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evrfighter - 310 days 12 hours ago
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we? Me and my buds were merely expeting gta3+better graphics.

Gta4 is Gta3 with better graphics?

ergo, it lived up to my expectations.
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Adropacrich2 - 310 days 22 hours ago
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Indeed, i think some of why gta4 gets dissed is down to fans expecting absurdly realistic things from this gen - i'm guessing a lot of gta fans expected it to be practically real and that's a little unfair

Never been a fan myself but i can still see the attraction

The new expansions are quite the suprise in that they seem like entire games and these will appeal to real gta fans - those of course that own a 360 because gta is actually rather sh!t if you don't
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silvacrest - 310 days 22 hours ago
8.1 - i think
you got it a little wrong. me, being a true GTA fan i think i can speak for other GTA fans when i say we wanted

FUN side missions,

at least ALL the vehicles in san andreas (why leave some out?)

at least one special weapon (vice city had a mini gun and chainsaw, san andreas had a flamethrower + mini gun)

im sure i missed something but here is what im wanting
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Neo604 - 310 days 22 hours ago
9 - oh sh1t Haze beat COD lol!!!
take that Too Human.
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peeps - 310 days 22 hours ago
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the article fails to mention why haze is selling so high suddenly... all shops on the uk seem to have dropped the price of haze to £10 to get rid of copies. So obv for a tenner ppl are giving it a go. for me though £10 is £10 too much to play that game if the demo was anything to go off

and yeh gta will be back ontop because some poeple may have held out to get it cheaper/the dlc is nearly out. even ps3 owners may get it because they hear about dlc not realising its exclusive to the 360. had a guy the other day on a forum asking when the ps3 was getting the lost and the damned
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Mr Tretton - 310 days 22 hours ago
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"And the PS3 ‘halo killer’"

*rolls eyes*
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zainkool - 310 days 21 hours ago
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Wow never played Haze, heard it was a bad game, but surprised it outselling COD:WAW
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Jacobite - 310 days 13 hours ago
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Haze is'nt a bad game, its just average to say at least, Not bad for bargain basement buy.
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crillyconlig - 310 days 20 hours ago
13 - cheap just
i will probly pick up haze when i get killzone2, just for a play through, why not for £5 pre-owned
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