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Don Mattrick: Xbox 360 Has Better Games Than PS3 And Wii Combined, No Seriously

Gamersworldbd.com writes: It seems the new Xbox boss Don Mattrick is being flanked left and right. How true is his words claiming "You go onto Metacritic - and count the number of 90-rated titles on our platform, compare that to Wii, compare that to PlayStation 3: there is no comparison"? We did just that and put the new Xbox boss to the test. The results come out surprising.
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Published: 506 days 23 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Wii | Industry News
 
 

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Forbidden_Darkness - 507 days 1 hour ago
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Again and again, they keep doing this, not proving anything. The 360 has been out a year longer, giving developers more time to create games. Also, there are many sites that just rate ps3 exclusives lower because they dont like the PS3.

At the end of 2009 i would like you to take The metacritic score of PS3's 2009 games vs. Xbox 360's 2008 games and see what system is better than!
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ass_divine - 507 days ago
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"The 360 has been out a year longer, giving developers more time to create games"

So what?

Even if you split that year on year, the 360 still wins!

This is important! PS3 developers got the final dev kit's 3 months before launch. The 360 developers only got final dev kit's 2 months before launch. Yet 360 games had better graphics, framerate etc etc from day one.

It's a bigger issue than you think because the initial PS3 dev kits arrived in developers hands before the 360 launched. PS3 developers have had at least an extra 14 months with PS3 hardware/software tools. Something that should have been a clear advantage in PS3's favour. Yet 2 years after the Ps3's launch, developers have nothing to show for it.

Even Metal Gear Solid 4 and Killzone 2 with 4 years production fail to impress. When you consider how much time, money, people and effort went into their development.

Consider what Epic did with Gears of War. It took them less than 2 years and $10m to make, with only 20 to 30 people involved with the development at any time. Not only is it a huge critical/commercial success. It is one of many games that make up the 360's library of 90+ on Metacritic.
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TheMART at Xboxkings - 506 days 23 hours ago
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Big question is:

Does it matter the 360 is out a year longer to someone that wants to choose a console to buy?

Answer:

Nope. He/she will just buy the console with the best line up or specific games he/she likes. Thus: if the 360 has the best line up, with or without that extra year, it wins there unless one just wants a 1st party Sony game over the 360 exclusives or total line up.

"Also, there are many sites that just rate ps3 exclusives lower because they dont like the PS3. "

Ofcourse. Everbody is against the PS3! Right? Or MS has paid every site to do so. Haha come on. The PS3 games are just scoring lower period. Learn to live with it.

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At the end of 2009 i would like you to take The metacritic score of PS3's 2009 games vs. Xbox 360's 2008 games and see what system is better than!"

I've heard this for 2007, I've heard this for 2008. The fact is just this: the 360 is a full year ahead in hardware sales, software production and total knowledge of the machine. That advantage will stay through the life cycle. THey always know the 360 hardware better then the PS3. Think about that. Catching up with 6 to 8 mln. units in advance is hard, even if it keeps outselling the 360 with thousands a month. It needs to sell a million a month extra to catch up within a year. It needs to sell 500k extra to catch up within two years. Won't happen.

Sorry dude. Sony lost because of hardware and software delays (and Home also)
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Fishy Fingers - 506 days 23 hours ago
1.3 - ^
The big question is:

Can you make up your own minds or do you need metacritic and the like to tell you what is or isnt a good game?
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HighDefinition - 506 days 23 hours ago
1.4 - @fishy
Thank you.
1.5 thenickel | 506 days 23 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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CrazzyMan - 506 days 23 hours ago
1.6 - x360 launched 1 year BEFORE PS3 and Wii
No Seriously

It would be a humiliation for x360 if console woudn`t have MORE better games with 1 YEAR advantage.)
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ericnellie - 506 days 22 hours ago
1.7 - @ Fishy -
I've got to aggree with you! The sad thing is - fanboys will eat this up;)
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SCThor - 506 days 22 hours ago
1.8 - Everytime Im tempted to buy a Xbox360 I remember..
..the old red rounded buddy, and then go back to play MGS4.
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Bangladesh - 506 days 22 hours ago
1.9 - Sony seems to be in full on damage control
@Fishy

Actually, game reviews are one of the single most important factors when it comes to a games success. No one in their right mind would try to argue against that.

Also, what does the 360 coming out a year earlier have to do with someones decision on whether or not they want a console? If someone wants the current generation console with the most high quality titles, then the 360 is the console to buy. That's a fact, not a diluted fanboy fantasy that that first year somehow doesn't count.
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Palodios - 506 days 22 hours ago
1.10 - I don't know though...
When you dig through some of the junk (Bioshock/Orange Box/ Guitar Hero 2 can't be considered exclusives), and keep in mind that 88+ is still pretty good, it really comes down to...

MS--> Gears/Mass Effect/Halo/Dead Rising/Forza vs.

Sony --> MGS/Resistance/Uncharted/ Ratchet/GT 5 vs.

Nintendo --> Mario/Link/Samus/Smash/Zak and Wiki

The exclusives don't really sway as much to one side as the chart makes it seem. By all means, the 360 does have more games, more above average games too, but its not a 5 to 5 to 12 situation.
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timmyrulz - 506 days 21 hours ago
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This year hard start is rubbish, i'm sure that once Sony knew about the release of the 360 they would have sent out their dev kits for the ps3 giving their devs a year longer to get to understand the kits and develop games
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Bangladesh - 506 days 21 hours ago
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MazzingerZ - 506 days 21 hours ago
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I just know that people buying a console is buying it for the newest games and the ones to come, the games that pushed them to go out and buy that console...they don't care about pie graphics or whatever MSFT or SONY can tell about their past...

PEOPLE BUY A CONSOLE BECAUSE OF THE PRESENT AND FUTURE GAMES, THE GAMES RELEASED AROUND CHRISTMAS OR AROUND THE MOMENT YOU'RE DOING YOUR PURCHASE. I BOUGHT MY X360 (now dead) BECAUSE OF OBLIVION,GEARS 1...AND BECAUSE OF HALO 3 TO BE RELEASED A YEAR AFTER...NOT BECAUSE OF KAMEO or COD2

I bought my PS3 because Uncharted, Folklore (was sweet) and Ratchet&Clank (and also because my X360 was behaving wierd and driving me nuts)

So I don't think people will buy a X360 because of Kameo or Call of Duty 2 or F.E.A.R. or a PS3 because of a Motostorm, Heavenly Sword or Warhawk

Reasons to get a X360 = Gears 2 and FAble 2
Resons to get a PS3 = MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance2, Motorstorm:PR, WipeoutHD, SOCOM:Confrontation, Killzone 2, inFAMOUS
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Pr3-M3d_G4M3R - 506 days 20 hours ago
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Enough with these stupid pie charts they dont even show anything. A better use would be a Venn diagram to show that there is correlation between a system having good games, and that each system that has good games is shown on a venn diagram by overlap of circles. Anyone can make a pie chart...heres how easy it is, so simple a simpled-minded fanboy can make one

Step one - draw a circle (if this is too difficult then use MSpaint
Step two - draw the largest part of the circle to represent your system
Step three - make it look like you know what oyure talking about by showing it to other

Pie charts are as useless as the fanboys that make them. Each system has its great games, am I the only logical person who realizes this???
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StephanieBBB - 506 days 19 hours ago
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Who cares about statistics when the greatest games are yet to come? If you use statistics more than common sense when you buy a console you will end up with having an Xbox360.

MGS4 was just a sneak peek at what quality the games on PS3 is going to come in. Just relax people! Those of you that owns an PS3 knows that our boat is not going to sink, it's going to hover in 08 and then fly in 09.
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dan-boy - 506 days 19 hours ago
1.17 - ash devine
well said. but look at your disagrees..lol

do the sony fanboys honestly think that the year wait was to finalise the specs??? nope, it was for blu-ray. god you sony boys live in the clouds.

and before you start using the "1 yr head start" rubbish... WHY DONT YOU USE YOUR HEADS, AND LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AT HAND????? IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAD TIL JUST BEFORE LAUNCH, HOW THE HELL DID THEY MAKE MOTORSTORM AND RESISTANCE FOR LAUNCH? OR UNCHARTED AND RATCHET AND CLANK ASWELL????????????????

given the notoriety of coding for the ps3, did they make motorstorm and resistance in three months, and uncharted and ratchet in less than a year??? no, they didn't.

so start using them sony infected brains before spouting nonsense.
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RememberThe357 - 506 days 17 hours ago
1.18 - @Bangladesh
So Okami did really well right? And Dynasty Warriors doesn't sell at all, right? Go climb back under that rock you came from and think about what you just said.
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Nostradamus - 506 days 17 hours ago
1.19 - Why do you guys say the 360 had a 1 year lead?
If I remember correctly, they were supposed to launch around the same time. But the PS3 kept getting delayed.

And when the Developers finally got the PS3 Dev-kits, all the manuals were written in Japanese, so a few things were lost in translation, after they finally got someone to translate it for them.

Point is, this is Sony's fault. They underestimated Nintendo and MS, and are now trying to catch up.
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BattleAxe - 506 days 16 hours ago
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HALO is an excelent example of a mediocre game that got great reviews. The gameplay is terrible and heres why: when you jump its like you are floating around, the weapons are not that great and were copied almost exactically by HAZE and it takes far too many shots to kill those aliens. Lets not forget how rediculously stupid the driving controls are aswell.

The graphics are ok, nothing special and the alien character models are way too childlike, they look like they're straight out of a coloring book.

Heres my point, HALO is one of the XBOX 360's top rated games and it is nothing more than an average shooter. Microsoft buys reveiews, and thats why HALO won the award for "Best Game Powered By Dew" on the Spike TV video games awards. Microsoft sponsord that whole show and it PAYED off in the end.

XBOX 360 users have been had. Honestly you guys, you should try some PS3 exclusive games and then pass judgement.
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Palodios - 506 days 16 hours ago
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@Remember

Hey now, don't put down DW. Sure, it has its flaws, but its does what is intended to do. If you're the kind of person who wants to play a game where you are a big general with a massive lance who kills thousands of tiny little guys and occasionally other big generals, do you really care about little thing like plot, or sound, or plot, or innovation, or plot?
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zer0man1 - 506 days 16 hours ago
1.22 - flame candy
These articles are like candy to the 360 fanboys lol ! I love to see how they try to make this stuff relevant.
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BlackTar - 506 days 16 hours ago
1.23 - @ass Divine
Not that i really care to go against you or stir the pot. My uncle worked at EA well before 360 came out and PS3 and he told me that they had the dev kit way before the 360 came out but the PS was right about 2months before it really came out. He was telling me that the 360 kit was just like here you go from MS with the PS3 they had to sign agreements with sony about not giving any info out until the system releases. So your little timeliness I call BS I know for a fact my uncle wasn't lying and he was one of the head devs for dead space befoe he quit because he is a true gamer aqnd hates EZ business practice. His name is Russle Shiffer one of the founders of using real orchestra and bands to provide video game music . Has always said music makes games 500X better and good music 1000x better. Sorry a little rant but I tryed to give you some background so It was for believable and not some made BS.

If you dont think im telling the truth he worked at accolade, and now Namco. If anyone remebers the series Bubsy him as and wife came up wiht the game her being the artist Tanya Shiffer
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grock900 - 506 days 16 hours ago
1.24 - lol
"RROD!, mgs4 rules, xbox live sucks, go ps3"

that's what i interpreted in the first comment
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RemmM - 506 days 15 hours ago
1.25 - Why does it matter to you guys who wins?
The REAL winners are us gamers while you fanboys are crying over who lost. Grow up!
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Pr3-M3d_G4M3R - 506 days 15 hours ago
1.26 - ^^^
It matters to them because they have a very boring life and the most excitement is an arguement about which system will "win" this "war". I say time and time again, each system has its great games, good games, and garbage games, bottom line. That's it. One system's great game is not better than another system's great game just because of the system is on (I know, fan boys use this as a basis for their arguement). It ONLY matters to the multi-million dollar investors and the developing companies how many games and units of a particular system sell. I doubt anyone on this website has invested millions into MS or Sony, and because of such there "should" be no flaming, arguing, fanboyism, etc. But because people have nothing better to do with their time (ahem fanboys) such events continue to go on and arguement without justification, basis, or evidence continues. Oh yeah sales numbers are not evidence for a better console. A billion people can buy a book because they want to know what the book has to offer, but it does not mean that that one book is the best in the world when compared to another book because each has its own to offer. I seriously suggest to stop with these childish posts which are bait to fuel the flamewar. News is supposed to be just that; news.
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Lelouch V Brit - 506 days 9 hours ago
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Long Live Xbox 360!!!!!!!!!!!
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andyo13 - 506 days 8 hours ago
1.28 - Lets not forget
360 beats ps3 to the worst games award as well.

seriously tho, 360 games are too mainstream, they're all the same shooting games. nothing original. well bearly.

we need more games like little big planet or mgs4 where they spent alot of time to really push the story. unlike other games >.>
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Daishi - 506 days 8 hours ago
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I don't know about anybody else, but I'm about to call DHR on BattleAxes parents for raising him that way... P.S. You can play a PS3 demo unit in any electronic store, but I guess MS hands out candy to those that don't play the PS3...
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MazzingerZ - 506 days 2 hours ago
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"Long Live Xbox 360"

Nice use of irony sir.
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BlackTar - 505 days 19 hours ago
1.31 - I love the disagrees
Keep em coming. at least call me out and call me a liar so I can prove yo wrong some how. Not sure about the time table but my uncle is a insider and has been most of his working life so unless syour gonna call me out for lying don't disagree because its all fact based no bias. or opinion even used in my post. There just videogames I know they mean alot I mean i play about 40hrs a week maybe more and I understand videogames are made for fun not so children can bicker which one is better. Play to play and do it to have funa nd you wont be disappointed if you don't play game because if your bias then you have alot to learn and alot of goodf times to miss. keep it up.
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MazzingerZ - 505 days 16 hours ago
1.32 - @BlackTar
I believe you dude...just don't give away more private info of your uncle...internet is full of freak rather than just gamers-freaks =)
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HateFanboys - 505 days 15 hours ago
1.33 - I see
That the Microsoft Defense Force has been out in full swing lately. They must be scared, they must be really scared. The fact is, that 360 has all sh1t games coming out this year. Ninja Gaiden 2? sh1t! Fable 2? garbage! Too Human? disgusting, worst pile of elephant dong I've played in a long time, garbage! Fallout 3? on the PS3, RE5? on the PS3. Banjo & Kazooie? what are we 12? kids game, no thanks, Viva Pinata? piece of sh1t, and same as Banjo, kids games, anybody who likes this game, has got some seriously bad taste. Halo Wars? bullsh1t, nothing special, its just C&C with Halo characters, stupid! What else is there? Barely anything else that is, the only decent game coming out for the 360 this year is Gears and thats just more of the same, with a coupe of new things in it, and slighty improved graphics.

And @ thenickel, what imaginary killer games are you talking about? cuz so far all i see is junk. Oh you mean the imaginary ones in you head.

And @ Fishy, you are absolutely correct, but it seems that MS/360 fanboys need to be told what is good, they have no opinion of their own, sad really.

And p.s. I see that MS is talking way more sh1t than Sony nowadays, hm, who's the arrogant ones now?
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WeaseL - 506 days 23 hours ago
2 - Rename the article
PS3 has the least crappy games
http://www.n4g.com/industry...
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TheMART at Xboxkings - 506 days 23 hours ago
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Well the PS2 also had a large library of crappy games. BUt it also had great 3rd party exclusives and great games.

Fact is, the largest line up with the highest scoring games (this time the 360) also has the change of getting a pile of bad scoring games. But its not like the Wii at least, only a handfull 1st party good games and the rest a pile of mindless minipartygames...
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kazuma - 506 days 23 hours ago
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hahaha i lol'd at that one
2.3 La Chance | 506 days 22 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Bangladesh - 506 days 22 hours ago
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Or you could rename it "360 has as many games with a score of 7.0 or higher, as there are total games in the ps3's entire library."

221-7.0 or higher
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

186- entire PS3 library
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
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karlostomy - 506 days 22 hours ago
2.5 - damn bangladesh
That takes the cake as the most accurate and poignant comment the SDF will see today
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hfaze - 506 days 16 hours ago
2.6 - Re: 2.1 TheMART
"Fact is, the largest line up with the highest scoring games (this time the 360) also has the change of getting a pile of bad scoring games. But its not like the Wii at least, only a handfull 1st party good games and the rest a pile of mindless minipartygames..."

So by your logic, the 360 should be flying off the shelves... But 360 hardware sales have been in a slowdown since launch... The "Halo Effect" didn't last as long as expected, and GTA4 didn't bring the up-tick in hardware sales that were expected...

Microsoft has been losing first party developers (Bungie, BioWare, and Bizarre Creations), and only has one heavy hitter left (Rare).

Not to mention, other than the Final Fantasy XIII announcement (which won't hit NA or EU until 2010) at E3, what did Microsoft have to show? A casual gaming focus? Release dates for games we already knew about? Not to mention the slap to Bungie's face not showing their new title at E3 as originally planned...

Sony has already announced their lineup into 2009, with more to come with the two big shows coming up. Microsoft has not shown or talked about much, which is a change from past E3's (remember all of the E3 hype over Halo 3, and Gears of War back in 2006? Not to mention all of the Alan Wake hype since 2005)

Seems to me that the 360 is slowing down... With the NPD hardware sales to prove it...
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grock900 - 506 days 16 hours ago
2.7 - hahah, wow
you my friend just posted the worst comment here, so what, you don't have to buy the bad games! I'd rather have a ton of band and good games because i am smart and can choose...
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Daishi - 506 days 8 hours ago
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hfaze, you do realize Sony showed their 2009 lineup back in 2005 right? And the wait is almost over!
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el_bandito - 506 days 23 hours ago
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Again, at the end of the day, I'd rather go for quality than quantity. The PS3 might not have several titles to flaunt, yet despite the lack in numbers may arguably be offset by the quality of games released,as the article suggests, "the PS3 has a solid library of games, only 7% of which can be classified as bad." The author also points out that despite the gap in terms of numbers, the 360 only has a .12% lead in terms of quality titles.

I do not know where he derived those numbers from, but the article says more of Sony/Nintendo/MS's quality control rather than the game library extensiveness.

Besides, video games don't get any cheaper these days, out of the 427 360 titles, how many of them would you actually buy and talk about?
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karlostomy - 506 days 22 hours ago
3.1 - What was the point of your comment?
The total number of crappy games is irrelevant to the savvy consumer.
Do you think people spend ANY time talking about or buying crappy software? ...no they don't!

Think about this for a second:
How many crappy games did the ps2 have?...LOTS!
How many great games did the Ps2 have?...LOTS!
Yet when we talk about the PS2 you will hear none of crappy games mentioned.
Instead, we talk about great AAA titles like GOW1, GOW2 etc...

My guess is people prefer to play great AAA games regardless of platform(!)

So, what would an ordinary person do when they buy a game, after checking reviews on metacritic?

Would they buy something crappy?
-----> of course not.
They would INSTEAD buy the GREAT GAMES.

Hence the significance of this quote from the article:
"To be precise, the Xbox 360 has a total of 12 90+ rated titles. Compared to the PS3 and Wii tying together for a total of 5 each."
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Bangladesh - 506 days 21 hours ago
3.2 - @karlostomy
Lol, I see that el bandito's comment seemed as ridiculious to you as it did to me.

Wouldn't any gamer in their right mind want the console with the largest amount of high quality games, rather than the console with the smallest amount of crappy games? That is unless someone got more enjoyment out of buying crappy games in small quantities, ratherthan high quality games in large quantities ; )

He was obviously trying to bend things around to fit his personal agenda.
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grock900 - 506 days 16 hours ago
3.3 - so you'd rather have less good games
good luck with that,
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Ben1054 - 506 days 23 hours ago
4 - WOW
over 25comments in 0mins, thats gotta be a record
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boodybandit - 506 days 23 hours ago
4.1 - Considering where the majority (21 out of 25) of those responses are?
(The Open Zone)
It's not that unbelievable.
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Omega4 - 506 days 23 hours ago
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Eventhough the 360 been out longer thats no excuse Sony could of released the PS3 early if they really wanted to and coming out second doest stop developers making games for it.

And Mattrick is right 360 currnetly has 5 AAA console exclusives while the PS3 only has 1. And MGS4 is rated the same as 2 of the 360s exclusives as well.

If there werent so many PS3 delays (and flops) things would be most likely be different now. And by year end the PS3 should get a couple more (LBP and Resistence 2) and the 360 too (Fable 2 and Gears 2)
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