Rumour: Newton motion controller finally confirmed? - Prototype pic.

heyheyhey - 523 days 21 hours ago

MEGALOLZORDS at mesh1

that made my day....LOL

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 19 hours ago

You will find an UPDATE on the article which include a full view pic of the controller (two piece) and a link to the developer site Motus who are building it. SO to those who said it's a Photoshop mock up, have another look and see what you say now, remembering it is a prototype and will most likely vary by full production time. Many thanks to Gamer4Life for the link btw.

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joe382 - 523 days 19 hours ago

MESH1 just give up, nobody is fooled by your desperation.

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Montrealien - 523 days 19 hours ago

Man, this pic is old and yeah, worst kept secret on the internet atm, lol

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truth for gamers - 523 days 17 hours ago

If this is indeed the new controller, I think it's a pretty good concept and a significant improvement over the wiimote.

perfect for saber and sword games, think oblivion and star wars.

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bednet - 523 days 16 hours ago

Gees, it's not going to be epic games that use that thing...it's gonna be kids games, casual games...that's the whole point of getting this thing out.

Be on the lookout for Halo Kart, Halo Play, Super Smash Spartan, Master Chief's Assault Rifle training.

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gaffyh - 523 days 16 hours ago

This design (and pics) are very old, I saw them a few months back. The design is too big and ugly, and I don't think this will sell well at all.

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RememberThe357 - 523 days 7 hours ago

What the hell did you just say?

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skimming - 523 days 5 hours ago

Please, Please, Please...

An realistic golf simulation with HD graphics (1080 at 60fps) and 5.1 Audio (nature sounds like ocean, wind, birds, audience, etc) using the two handed waggle controller with true force feedback + wack noise from the controller. Or how about attach a real weighted golf club and perhaps even string attached weighted balls?

Simulate slice, hook, fade, push etc etc with the waggle. None of the idiotic strength meters, please. I can't stand the Wii Sports version, the lame graphics and the even lamer strength meter really turned me off. I'm assuming that MS version of the waggle would be a lot of sensitive and accurate than the Wii version, due to tech advancements and attachable nature of the controller.

WOW.

How about multiplayer with your frat buds over Live with chatting and vision camera support on the links; tournaments anyone? I can see golf addicts (like I used to be) paying hand over fist for something like this.

My price would be $250 if there's enough realism. Endless DLC opportunities (golfing in warzone with automatic weapons?). As cheapest golf outing costs min of $50 (also too easy to spend 100), this would be a steal.

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andyo13 - 522 days 22 hours ago

wev taken a full circle back to stick waggling with the joystick

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Montrealien - 523 days 18 hours ago

yeah, leaking is cheaper then any marketing campaign.

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 22 hours ago

Prototypes generally do not look like the finished item.

God, you should have seen the final 10 Xbox360 prototypes - shudder.

So the real one will probably bear some resemblance to this, in some ways, but the nature of prototypes is to disguise the actual final product. Ever notice how a prototype car never looks the same as the one that roles off the production line.

Many aspects have to be taken into consideration once the "basic' idea is concreted. The whole ease of production, mouldings, components then are taken into consideration, and from that, a final production model is come up with. That then has moulds and dies made from it for the casings and the internals, which are then made to fit.

So it's not a what-you-see-is-what-you-get thing with prototypes. But hey, try telling those basic steps to any fanboys and you might was well bang your head on a concrete wall, you'll get a better response from the wall. hehehe

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Jenzo - 523 days 20 hours ago

At least they didn't recycle their controller design from last gen, like one other company did.

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pwnsause - 523 days 18 hours ago

Jenzo, people wanted that controller Recycled, it is one of the best controllers that has been around for over 10 years already, just put it in your think skull, there must be a reason why it has been around for more than 10 years.

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truth for gamers - 523 days 17 hours ago

it doesnt look anything like the wiimote, this is round the wiimote is rectangular

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supahbad - 523 days 16 hours ago

cuz their's wasn't a piece of giant crap

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CrashSharc - 523 days 15 hours ago

@ jenzo

if it's already perfected, why change it? Seems like the other companies are still trying to find out the right formula for a great controller. They'll get it eventually.

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cool8 - 523 days 10 hours ago

only becouse its the best controller ever invented!

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Zeevious - 523 days 10 hours ago

A large firm will have their own Rapid Prototyping hardware and easily run 100 variations of designs just for testing. (think of a Star Trek replicator, but it takes more than a few seconds...hours depending on the size & materials chosen: SLS, SLA, FDM, PolyJet, EBM, alloys, etc.)

You're just seeing one of those tests. The Wii's proven it's formula or it wouldn't be first in sales.

Sony's Controller?
The comments about the Sony controller are wrong...

Sure, you got the best PS3 controller from the past 10 years but missed out on the best controller for PS3 gaming.

Yes, the "ugly boomerang" controller. Most Sony gamers hated it, without even trying it or more importantly realizing WHY it was shaped so uniquely.

Think about it as a controller designed for not only motion feedback, but to be as versatile & simultaneously comfortable as possible.

That's a pretty large order and after tons of RP model tests the controller's form followed it's function, not the reverse. (The ones shown publicly where not at final scale)
http://www.joystiq.com/2005...

Imagine holding the controller vertically, by the arced-extensions...It's a steering wheel.
Hold it horizontally: You're hang gliding or flying a plane.
Hold the grips with one hand in front of the other: You're firing a machine gun.
Notice the carefully sculpted space between the analog sticks...for your thumb, with the PS button moved up so you can still tap Select-PS-Start: You're bowling, throwing a ball or any number of other unique ways to use the controller.

So the PS3 does have the best controller from the past 10 years, but not the best one for the next 10...ugly or not.

As far as prototypes, I'm looking to see what both MicroSoft & Sony have to show for their innovation in motion at E3.

Oh yeah, did I mention that unlike needing the wriststrap on the Wiimote, if you happened to drop or throw that PS3 controller, it would just fling around and come right back?

;)

Seeya' at E3.

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 22 hours ago

Ahhhh this is what I love about the net . no one reads, just looks at pics (no offense meant mate).

The Newton aka The Darwin Project, is only for certain games within the xbox360 and XBLA system. Games such as the new Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts-N-Bolts, and a few others under development right now which will be aimed at "social gaming" not HARDCORE gamers.

Aimed at "families, fun party games and social gathering style gaming. NOT the FPS, RTS, MMO etc etc etc.

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 22 hours ago

You're probably closer to the money than you think you are mate.

The game has been pushed back, yet it's well into its dev cycle and could well come out much sooner, if they did some burning of midnight oil.

But, in order for say MS to take advantage of it (the games use of sabers etc), they could be looking at the delay (brought about by internal pressure and the hint of greater overall sales) as a way to introduce the Newton along side both Banjoo-Kazooie and SW:FU as well as one other game that could take advantage of it.

It would make sense to do that and help the publishers of the game, as well as the companies making the accessory, as the two (game and accessory) would sell as a bundled item, increasing overall unit sales, as WELL as SKU sales of consoles . . make sense now doesn't it.

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 21 hours ago

I think you'll find it will work with 'some' games but definitely not with high use games as you mention. They simply wouldn't work over extended time periods.

The 360 controller is perfectly designed for long periods at a game without any RSI or muscle fatigue. This will simply be aimed at a "different audience" than the hardcore or even medium range gamer. It will be aimed at the family and social (read party) style games where everything is in short period and lots of activity happening.

SO I doubt you'll see it being included in say the next Ninja Gaiden 3 or Street Fighter etc.

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elitewh0re - 523 days 12 hours ago

" i hope companies give support to injured people, amputees "

amputees? are you for real, i mean no disrespect to them, but i'm pretty sure it would be harder using a pad with 12 buttons then something they can swing around...

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Jenzo - 523 days 20 hours ago

Sony will probably announce and show off alot of new stuff...that won't be available until 2012.

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Kyur4ThePain - 523 days 19 hours ago

This is a thread discussing the Xbox 360 and its new controller.
That's your second post, and in both YOU bring up Sony. What's the deal? Aren't you thge one always preaching about the "Sony fanboys" doing that? Let's keep it on topic, shall we?

It really seems as though MS dismissed the opportunities that motion controls bring too early this gen. But it seems they've finally seen the light and agreed that it is, indeed, not just a gimmick.
Welcome.

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 21 hours ago

Do you read posts, or just post your thoughts.

The newton is aimed at party games, socially gathering style games for the casual gamers. NOT the games requiring normal controller use.

The 360's current controller pad is and will be the controller of choice for many gamers around the world for serious games, but this will open a door that Ms and even Sony need to get into if they wish to survive. And with Sony being $US3 billion behind the eight ball, you can bet they will be looking seriously at something very very similar.

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sticky_date - 523 days 7 hours ago

Force it on people? Mmmk - let's all remember that this is an accessory - not a change in format :P

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 19 hours ago

Try looking at the article again, there's a new pic with a link straight to Motus's home site with a blow up of the prototype controller. Not so rumour any more eh . . .

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 19 hours ago

Yes they are, and they HAVE been in deeper discussions with MS and the new projects name is Darwin, which relates to the MS controller, NOT The PS3 one. do do some more research. Xbox360World did their homework on it around 3 weeks ago or thereabouts, and had discussions with Motus re Darwin Project which they confirmed was being designed with MS's help.

This IS has items are designed and made, through MOCK-UPS and prototypes. God, sometimes I think many just believe items appear out of heaven and fall to the earth and land in shop shelves.

Do any of you know the process of design and construction then through to final product.

Having designed and built items for overseas shipping and use before, I can tell you the process is along drawn out one and the product goes through many changes before it is finished. Of course Motus are working with cases to begin with dahh, they don't build the components then build a controller around those components.

They come up with an acceptable shape and design, then the major company looks at how the internals might work, it's then refined and reshaped again, the more intricate items are then taken into consideration such as major internal components, then a final external shell is designed on based on the final internal designed, which was designed around the initial IDEA.

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McErono - 523 days 19 hours ago

short pls: you think this thing is the "BIG Microsoft surprise" on the E3 that Goosen mentioned? very big surprise if any details are spoiled on the motus site... no way... that thing is so wrong designed that MS has nothing to do with it or they are gone crazy.

edit; didn't see that you are the provider of this news. all clear rofl...

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McErono - 523 days 19 hours ago

doesn't need any sensorbar ;-)

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 22 hours ago

Again, this IS a PROTOTYPE, not a finished item. The two rarely look the same in any business development. What we see sitting on the shelves come the end of the year will NOT be what we see here now.

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Ali_The_Brit - 523 days 20 hours ago

follow the trend? are you on crack? the sixaxis has always had motion controls built in from day 1 of the PS3 so sony can never be accused of copying or following a trend when the idea has always been there,anything more they released would just be adding to it

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Montrealien - 523 days 19 hours ago

angrybot on account numer 52, cute.

And ali, the same could be said about MS, Freestyle Pro is 10 years ago. but I don't care, the more the merrier, they are all fun.

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gunnerheadboy - 523 days 17 hours ago

This contrller looks like a dildo.

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juuken - 523 days 5 hours ago

Lulz, dildo.

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iMad - 523 days 21 hours ago

Like Sony forced ppl to buy a controller with rumble.

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XboxOZ360 - 523 days 21 hours ago

You just don't get it, do you.

This is simply a controller for casual, family orientated party games. Not a TV controller come remote,come motion sensor device.

The PS3 has the normal sixaxis, then it MAKES you buy what they should supply free, the rumble Sixaxis, and then just like MS, offer a TV remote at and EXTRA charge as well, not free with the console.

Stop being a fanboy and look past your blinkers and see what the industry is doing and you might just learn something. Both MS and Sony have vested interests in making components as accessories. They will both come out with a motion sensor device, they will both have separate controller pads, they will both have TV multimedia remotes and they will both have various forms of input devices. Get over it.

Oh, and btw, Of course Sony don't want to make a profit, so they just give you everything for free, as they are already $US3 billion in debt due to the PS3, and MS is in it's second quarter of profits on the 360 . .

Which DOES NOT make MS better than Sony, it just points out the basic facts that both companies MUST make a profit in order to survive. You bought a PS3 didn't you, enough said. You're supporting them by buying games and periferrals right, again, enough said. Get the point.

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Shane Kim - 523 days 17 hours ago

iMad you must be too stupid to understand. We over at MS don't make party games, we only like shooters.

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Blackmoses - 523 days 6 hours ago

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!

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brothersimon - 523 days 5 hours ago

I find it funny that droids take time to create dumb accounts and stay on N4G all day posting anti-xbox stuff on every artical... must have no life, no social life at all

poor droids.. :( if only they had something to do in their spare time, e.g play on their ps3 with a decent game instead of watching mgs4, or replaying uncharted.. or rewatching a bluray movie theyve seen 203 times already.

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Obama - 523 days 5 hours ago

@bladestar - Apparently you are the expert of asshole. :O

@Brothersimon - Said one one with a "ps3 fail" avatar. The irony.

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juuken - 523 days 5 hours ago

Lmfao!

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brothersimon - 522 days 19 hours ago

Ohh droid :p

A quick google search, and a quick press of "UPLOAD" around 40 seconds.

You actually taking the time to create an whole account then droid all day on the site = obviously a fat retard american/droid/kid who wears glasses and has a bad case of acne :(

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juuken - 523 days 5 hours ago

HI XTURD! *waves*

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