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Playing Call Of Duty On Your PS3 Could Be Dangerous, At Least If It's Made By Treyarch

ZKG writes "So about six months ago we did an article called "Is Call Of Duty Causing Disc Read Errors On The PS3". Please read that article first so you will have a frame of reference for what I am about to say. The reason I wrote the original article is because it happened to me, I was playing Call Of Duty: World At War when all of the sudden my PS3 freaked out and froze. At the time it was just an assumption, but recent information we have come across appears to validate this as fact."
thatruth2006 - contributor
Published: 168 days 10 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Gaming
 
 

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Pennywise - 168 days 10 hours ago
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COD3 was a console killer and I would expect the same from CoD5.

I still dont understand the appeal for WWII games. Personally, I am over it, so my PS3 is safe.
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Syronicus - 168 days 9 hours ago
1.2 - The real reason for these failures is...
Kitty pron. Too much of that stuff will kill any PS3, mark my words.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_X...
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MentalKing666 - 168 days 9 hours ago
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this is the game that i was playing when my ps3 broke cod waw sucks lol
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ThanatosDMC - 168 days 9 hours ago
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GTA4 is a console killer too. It froze my PS3 and then it the disk got stuck.
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mastiffchild - 168 days 8 hours ago
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I missed the first article but I'm amazed by this. My original PS3 got DRE while playing WaW and at the time I put it down to the fact a few 60gigs were having the problem but now I'm not so sure as it does, looking back, seem like after playing WaW on and off for a week or two my system carked-and with the same issue with Sony saying the Blu-Ray set up needed sorting. I took a refurb at the time but never im,agined this could have been the cause.

If it does turn out to be true then it's very shoddy of Activision Blizzard AND Treyarch-imagine now how they compensate those who paid for repairs? Personally I just claimed on CP(which I took out when Sony were changing their policy of fixing out of warranty 60's for free so I'm not that bitter but if I'd shelled out £150 on it who knows?
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FamilyGuy - 168 days 7 hours ago
1.6 - I would think
It would be more related to how much time someone spends playing the game. Maybe COD player game longer than others and it hurt their systems.

This is crazy news and could end in a law suit if it's proven...
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stevenhiggster - 168 days 7 hours ago
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There can't be too much truth in this as some people on my friends list only ever play WaW and their PS3's are fine, and seriously they play it ALL the time, I'm pretty sure they have no other games!

But then again one of my friends did have his PS3 die on him while playing WaW so you never know.
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perseus - 168 days 5 hours ago
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For me, WWII games are better because they require a bit more FPS skill. At least they should. No lock-on missiles, just cannons. No IR goggles, just moonlight. No guided TOW, just bazookas. More simple, so for me, they're more fun. THat's why I'm so looking forward to BF1943. I get my WWII airplane fix again.

Of course, WaW is really easy to play. Too easy. It's boring.
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solar - 168 days 4 hours ago
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ive had no problems....plus i like the Zombie Mode. a mate and i have been having a blast with it.
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F3NIX DX - 168 days ago
1.10 - @1.4
reported as SPAM
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velaxun - 167 days 23 hours ago
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sorry but in what way is 1.4 spam?
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Name Last Name - 167 days 23 hours ago
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this actually pretty weird, my PS3 broke too while playing WaW
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Maddens Raiders - 167 days 21 hours ago
1.13 - Shameful -
Treyarch needs to come out and refute these accusations line item by line item to save some face and avoid future doubts about their final product (one large one looming in particular). If not, they could find their rep spiraling down the fast end of the crapper.

Good read.
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FunkyBunch - 167 days 20 hours ago
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@1.13 You're a little too trusting of online news sources. It is impossible for the code of a game to be so poorly written it breaks the actual physical limitations of the machine and causes it to fail.

You can not run so fast your legs will actually fall off, no matter how much your brain tells them to. Same goes with a Blu-ray drive. It doesn't matter how fast the game tells the Blu-ray to spin. If the game is telling the Blu-ray to spin at 2.5x and it's only a 2x drive, it's not going to magically be able to spin at 2.5x until it breaks.
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jessehaysfl - 167 days 20 hours ago
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this guy is full of sh!t....some secret source claims treyarch's code spins discs too fast...........seriously...... ................seriously? dude.....

your a fu<king moron.
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Xbox Avatars Shoe - 167 days 15 hours ago
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i got the WaW Platinum about a week after launch and I play Nazi Zombie almost everyday and my PS3's haven't gotten DRE. I'm actually on my 3rd PS3 cus I had to sell my 60g (needed money badly), my 40g broke after about 6 months (not DRE though) and now I have the 160g. I have quite a few friends who play

WaW all the time and they haven't had any problems. A few of them have the 60g, one of two have the 80g and a bunch of them have the 40g and I have the 160 so I don't think the problem has to do with the model of PS3. BTW I've notice that my 160g runs WAY cooler than my old 60 and 40gs did. I'll play for about 10 hours straight and it'll literally blow cool air out the back!
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andron666 - 167 days 14 hours ago
1.17 - Only natural...
PS3s do break occasionally, like all electronic equipment.

And there is a higher chance people are playing CoD: WaW when it happens. The reason is obvious. It's one of the bestselling games and has an online mode that is frequently used...
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ThanatosDMC - 166 days 5 hours ago
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Actually, i my PS3 did crap out thanks to GTA4 freeze fest. It completely froze after i left the multiplayer team deathmatch game. I bought it the day it came out and played it for a long long time.

I was extremely sad/worried/pissed off/etc. But Sony fixed everything.

Here's my forum complain: http://boardsus.playstation...

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A sony tech support name Tammy Smith told me they never heard of such a problem. I was like, "**bleep**?! A lot of people are complaining about it online someone else besides me should have called by now?"

Then i called Rockstar since Tammy said to complain to them since it's their software. (yes, GTA4 problem too) Some guy, who didnt seem to want his name given. (yeah, i know, **bleep**?!) Told me it's not the games fault but the PS3.

My PS3 has been working fine ever since i've gathered enough money on December 14, 2007. I didnt want the extended warranty since it's wasnt a failure console to worry about... besides it was more money i did not expect. Anyway, April the 30th i bought GTA4 and loved the single player and treasure the multiplayer. Had several freezes that i had to hold down the power button. It started during the first mission when i jumped a car on a ramp. Then it happened again on other occations. I thought it was acceptable since other people are experiencing it and it's such a great game that i forgive it. But after i tried mulitplayer online, it's greatness sored. But when i quit the game past 2am in the morning. It froze one the "quiting game" screen. I was like, **bleep**?! Then after i held down the power button and rebooted, no disks would work anymore. PS3 games, bluray movies, dvds, or PS2 games.

Games installed on the hard drive seems to work properly. My 80gig PS3 just cant seem to read any disks. I'm sad, frustrated, and angry.

$150 for something that's not my fault. **bleep** YOU!!!

--Edit--

Also, for those people that are thinking we're trolling. No we are not. It is real. We all love our PS3's after all. GTA4 > my girl b***ing at me right now. I'm really angry that their tech support are not helpful someone needs to address this problem properly. I want a free fix from rockstar or sony. I shelled out a lot of money for my PS3 and games.

PSN ID: ThanatosDMC
Message Edited by ThanatosDMC on 05-02-2008 12:55 PM
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This was before the patches.
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ZombieAutopsy - 168 days 10 hours ago
2 - funny thing is
CoD4 is the game that gave my buddys ps3 disc read errors and he had to send it in twice, as there is no way to know if it was the game or not its all he played.

LMAO looks like xbox fanboys are already tryin to approve this.
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thatruth2006 - 168 days 10 hours ago
2.1 - The article mentioned COD4 as well
In the article they say that it may happen in COD4 and Infinity Ward COD's but nowhere near as frequently. Also if you look at the top of the site, they only cover the PS3 so what do they have to gain by writing stuff about the PS3 if its not true. The article seems to be well written and not biased as far as I could tell.
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ZombieAutopsy - 168 days 10 hours ago
2.2 - yea i noticed
but on both the xbox and ps forums it was a MADHOUSE when this game was released with people saying it was killing their consoles (COD4 that is). It wasnt anywhere near as bad on the xbox forums but over the the playstation ones you would see people saying it did it all the time.
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PS360WiiRocks - 168 days 8 hours ago
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Yeah zombie it's a conspiracy! This article is about COD WAW on PS3, not the PS3. Put down your tinfoil hat and get out of your basement. I also own 2 approvals because I've been on this site since like 2005/2006
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Bzone24 - 168 days 9 hours ago
3.2 - lol
You guys make it look like there were a ton of fanboys rushing to approve this article when it appears to be only 4 approvals.
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ZombieAutopsy - 168 days 9 hours ago
3.3 - well
it got approved so 10 people must of approved it. I just think its lame to just approve something because its talking negative about something you dont like, and by going through some of the approvers comments its kinda obvious.
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Bzone24 - 168 days 9 hours ago
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It doesn't need 10 approvals if a moderator approves it. I've seen articles with no approvals get approved.

Edit:
Maybe everybody has different approval power here. If you look at the 4 approvals, there are numbers beside of their names and that adds up to 10.
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ZombieAutopsy - 168 days 9 hours ago
3.5 - oh didnt know that
but when i was looking at it it had 8 then went up to 10, im not sure if that mean mods just approved it or it all just happened too fast
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Syronicus - 168 days 9 hours ago
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Some folks here hold 1, 2 4 and even 10 approval slots. Admins can instantly approve a story and guys like me can click once and get 2 approvals for any one story. In some cases you can have 5 people approve but have the story go through with 10 since each of the 5 approvers hold 2 approval slots.
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DlocDaBudSmoka - 168 days 10 hours ago
4 - i never had a problem with W@W
now cod4 situation. on my 60g cod4 would always tell me it was loading game settings for MP, and never went away. so i tried my copy on another ps3 and it worked fine. Here's the BS tho. i tried another copy of cod4 on my 60g and the same thing. downloading game settings. So i called sony told them my blu-ray laser died (it didnt), and got another ps3 sent to me.

*edit- im glad disagree-ers know what happens to my stuff.
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chisox100 - 168 days 9 hours ago
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after this happens do other games still work or does the blu-ray laser just burn out completely.
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thatruth2006 - 168 days 9 hours ago
5.1 - When this happens the blu ray lens dies
No PS3 or Blu Ray disc will play.
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--joshua-- - 168 days 8 hours ago
5.2 - Bioshock
is responsible for my Blu Laser burnout :(
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Calvin_ISA - 167 days 22 hours ago
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Resistance 2 caused mine, but I got it fixed in store warranty for free cause it quit reading discs passed Sony's 1-year warranty.
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agentace - 168 days 9 hours ago
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My PS3 broke when i was playing COD5 :( but i dont think it was CODs fault, my HHD got corrupted somehow
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spunnups - 168 days 9 hours ago
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No problems here , just more slanderous accusations @ Sony IMO
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IdleLeeSiuLung - 168 days 9 hours ago
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Because it didn't happen to you does not mean it doesn't happen to others.

However, I have to call this BS. It might just be a co-incidence that this happens while playing CoD5. I mean, the game sold really well and is topping many charts. It is conceivable that some of them will get problems with their PS3 while playing.

In any way, I doubt Sony would allow a way to create code that would cause the disc to spin too fast. This is something Sony would protect to prevent massive warranty claims. I don't believe for one second that the standard practice of most established companies is to release a faulty product to risk costly brand damage and law suits. I call this pure BS! It makes no sense what so ever!!!
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FunkyBunch - 168 days 2 hours ago
7.2 - You're Right
It has to be BS. Any type of Data Storage Device has a hardware controller on it and Blu-ray is no exception. Hard Drives, CD-ROMs, DVDs etc. This hardware controller acts as a go-between from the Processor to the Device. The Processor tells the Controller what it wants from the Device, and the Controller goes and gets it. Controllers in general operate at fixed speeds (sometimes they have multiple speeds, but they are still fixed).

So in essence (generally), it doesn't matter how badly you code something, you still can't wreck the Device you're communicating with. Now, paradoxically, it is possible the Processor and Controller choose the wrong speed for the Disc in an optical device. This will can cause the Disc to break (Starcraft CD in 52X Drive anyone?), but it will not damage the Device itself.
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FantasyStar - 168 days 9 hours ago
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I never had a problem with WaW running on my PS3. Also, this article is even less reputable because it's coming from a site with no technical background. The only phrase that even hints it's Treyarch's problem is this quote:

"They said that the way that it’s done by Treyarch causes the disc to spin too fast in the PS3 and that is what causes all those disc read errors."

Yet, all I see in the article is hearsay and hardly any solid evidence in the form of data files and scripts. File this one in the "superstitious moron" folder. Now if this article was written by people at Tom's Hardware, Guru3D, Engadget, Gizmondo, Anandtech, or BIS: I'd be more inclined to believe them cause at least those sites specialize in hardware analysis and have the knowledge and credentials to make such claims without looking lke a guy grasping for straws.
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maverick1191 - 168 days 9 hours ago
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not true at all really my brother plays cod 4 on ps3 for hours on end for 2 years no problems and ive played w@w for hours on end since release nearly everyday each time playing at least 2-3 hours and ive received no problems what so ever
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sunil - 168 days 9 hours ago
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Since Robert Kotick is so concerned about the "gamer"... would he be offering to replace the PS3s / reimburse Sony / the "gamer" for the losses?

I would think NOT !!
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dogmeat eater - 168 days 9 hours ago
11 - this game has been out for almost a year
I haven't even seen one thing about this. What BS. Oh well this game sucks anyways.
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dogmeat eater - 168 days 9 hours ago
12 - MGS4 breaks PS3s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
see how easy it is to start a crappy rumor
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FantasyStar - 168 days 9 hours ago
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OMFG! GET TO DA CHOPPA!
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Blow Out Your Brains - 168 days 9 hours ago
13 - LOL, This is BS...
I only play COD Modern Warfare and World at War, those are the games I play on my PS3. L4D is the only game I play on my 360, I have never had disc error problems on either console. Here's an idea, try dusting your systems off once in a while and taking care of them.
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Amir51 - 168 days 9 hours ago
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Im glad to see im not the only one with this problem.
It happened to me with COD 4 and COD 5 and was really annoying.
I almost sent my ps3 for repair because of it, now im not sure if i should have or not.
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BX81 - 168 days 9 hours ago
15 - @crayz-eyez-killah
Geez typical droid. No one mentioned anything completely stupid until you. Imagine that. Anyway back on topic. I don't know about W@W but I did have a copy of Gears 2 that kept doing this. Has anyone else had problems with the DLC for W@W. Every time me and my friend try to connect for a game it always says we don't have one of the map packs. It's usually a different one every time. Think I'm just going to erase them and download again.
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Jdoki - 168 days 9 hours ago
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Possibly coincidence, but we have 3 PS3's in the family and 1 broke while playing W@W - we're still waiting for the disc to be returned by Sony as it was stuck in the drive!! We had the YLOD.

The other two are fine, even though one (my brothers) is playing CoD 4 or W@W constantly!!

Also, I was watching a 'fix YLOD error yourself' video on Youtube. And at the end the guy proved the unit was fixed by hitting eject... Out popped W@W!! :)

There is a distinct possibility that the reason CoD games are getting the blame is purely because they are so popular. So they are being played by more gamers and therefore we see more errors that people think can be attributed to CoD games - but are really just general failures that would have happened sooner or later.
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Captain Tuttle - 168 days 9 hours ago
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That makes sense.
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