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From SouthSideGamer: "Everyone knows that Tecmo has recently announced a sequel to the ps3 exclusive Ninja Gaiden sigma, coming this fall, which is a remake of the first ninja gaiden game on the original xbox. They have said that this will not be a direct port of the xbox 360 version, Ninja Gaiden 2. The features will include an enhanced version of the game with better visuals, Co-op, new characters, fixed camera angle issues, a refined gameplay experience. This does sound exciting for the ps3 fans who have been waiting for more Ninja gaiden sigma games but what about the players on the xbox 360? Will they get some of the updates to fix these issues?"
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Godmars290
- 265 days 10 hours ago
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It was something MS wanted at a certain time - meaning *soon* - with Iagaki's lone-warrior, heroines are only good for "bouncing" mentality hampering more. The PS3 is getting the version where the rest of of th teams took more time with open minds.
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chaosatom
- 265 days 9 hours ago
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1.1 - lol, i never thought that we would be getting these kinds of articles.
And it even got passed.
Hopefully the trend will continue, and other developers would start using ps3 to its potential. Looks like the 360 was holding back the Ninja within. lol.
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StayHigh
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ng2 for the 360 was horrible the camera sucks, graphics wasnt all that great and it have lots of flaws.A lot of 360 fans are whining right now that we are getting the definite version of Ninja Gaiden 2..
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Lfmesquite
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1.3 - I don't know
maybe people are making too big a deal about this. Ninja Gaiden 2 was "not" a big seller for 360. It was just not a major impact game, and suddenly they announce a version for PS3 with some enhancements, and people on N4G are making a big deal about it, and I don't think it's that big a deal.
I mean, we're probably still talking about Ninja Gaiden 2. The game kinda disappointed on 360, and now they want another shot, marketing Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 as a new PS3 exclusive, but is it really?
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wow, at the disagrees. But, it's my fault. I should know better than to try to reason with the PS3 fanboys.
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Unicron
- 265 days 9 hours ago
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Always such petty generalizations on this site. Remember, MGS4 is "just a movie"... until any porting rumors are announced. It's a "big deal" to me because it's NGS2, a sequel to Sigma, which is a game in a franchise I love. I could care less what it sells, and frankly the fact that "gamers" quickly and consistently run to the sales data in defense of any argument these days is pathetic.
NG2 was flawed. NGS2 looks to FIX those flaws, and make the game a better experience. What's more, now I can own it on the console I prefer, with the controller I prefer for action games. So tell me why I SHOULDN'T be excited as a gamer and an NG fan?
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ultimolu
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Ninja Gaiden II was used to derail Metal Gear Solid 4, yes or no?
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Ninja-Sama
- 265 days 9 hours ago
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1.6 - I must thank all the 360 gamers who tested out the NG2 beta...
All your suggestions and hard work have gone into forging a true Ninja Gaiden masterpiece. Ninja-Sama is eternally grateful and will make full use all the hours of playtime you poured into the beta.
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Lfmesquite
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1.7 - What?
Are you saying that Ninja Gaiden 2 was rushed out, just so it could released around the same time as Metal Gear Solid 4?
Could be, I don't know.
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The third-parties of this generation already said f.u. to exclusivity so they are going to use all loop holes they can to release their games. For example the DLC that was thought to be exclusive for Oblivion was later released on the PS3 as a game of the year edition.
This will be the same case of Fallout 3 Game of the Year Edition and the Sigma series was titled so that it can "appear" to separate itself from Ninja Gaiden.
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Unicron
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I'm attempting to reason with you, and you huff and puff and generalize about "PS3 fanboys" again. If YOU can't have a serious discussion, why should others be expected to?
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ultimolu
- 265 days 8 hours ago
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DING, DING, DING!
Congratulations, you have won a consolation prize!
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Kigmal
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Honestly, I don't care for Sigma or Sigma 2. Go ahead and disagree all you want, but the PS3 controller sucks balls for this game, and that's my opinion. See my problem is not that this game is on PS3, it's the fact that I got an incomplete game when I spent $60 on NG2 for 360. THAT"S WHY I AM PISSED. Tecmo would be nothing today if it wasn't for Itagaki. Tecmo can go suck a big one right now. With the exception of the one hit wonder Tecmo Bowl, what's Tecmo mostly known for? Ninja Gaiden and DOA, possibly Fatal Frame and Rygar but those are not acclaimed like DOA and NG. Two of Itagaki's frachises. Hell Itagaki put Tecmo on the map. After he was fired, they had to merge their sorry asses. Screw you Tecmo. You suck balls. How can you backstab fans like that? Pure bullsh*t. /end rant
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Unicron
- 265 days 7 hours ago
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To each his own... personally I LOVE the PS3 controller for these types of games. It wasn't until Sigma hit that I really started to appreciate the the combat, as I couldn't STAND the Xbox controller for games like this.
And yeah, as I said before, I take no pleasure in seeing fans of a series that is on both consoles being snubbed. It's Lost & The Damned all over again, but reversed.
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1.13 - @ 1.3, hey NG2 wasn't a big seller, it only sold a million within a few months
NG2 was the highest selling NG game in history, I think it sold a million in like 2 months
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BattleAxe
- 265 days 6 hours ago
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1.14 - I just want to thank all of my XBOX friends.....
For testing NG2 to make sure that a proper quality assurance was done before I get it on my PS3. I sure can't wait to play co-op in NG2 :D
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IdleLeeSiuLung
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I don't know why we have all this snobby behavior due to this improved version of the game coming out on the PS3, but it appears a lot of people (or should I say PS3 fans) were jealous that the 360 got this exclusive game as evident by the behavior.
It is almost a year later and I got to enjoy it on the 360 all this time. I'm happy that I now get more Ninja Gaiden. I don't care if it is on the PS3 or 360 as long as I get more Ninja Gaiden with or without blood!
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SSG : "why didn’t developers fix these issues and give the gamers these new assets for the original game?"
Itagaki : "PS3 port of Ninja Gaiden II "would be a loss of face for everyone involved."
yeah.
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chaosatom
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saying 360 is most powerful system was really foolish of him. Maybe he was fond of MS too much.
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ThanatosDMC
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After the interview he said, "Check please!"
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Soda Popinsky
- 265 days 8 hours ago
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We haven't seen the game yet, have we? I will believe the hype when I see the games side by side.
Also, you need to accept that not all developers share your 4-D vision when it comes to the PS3. Itagaki is as entitled to his opinion as any of Sony's developers are to theirs when praising the PS3.
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Major_Tom
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4D is growth over time.. Lol. It already exists in games.
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Zeus Lee
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No,it was the beta.
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Sevir04
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4 - lol!!! well hayashi said the 360 version will not be getting updates or patches, fixes or DLC
Soooo!!! you can actually call NG2 on xbox 360 a beta test... itagaki really sounds stupid, he said the ps3 couldn't handle a graphics intenisve game like NG2... boy doesn't he feel really crunchy right now!!!
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StayHigh
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haha..i laugh at him when he tried to say the 360 is a more powerful system..everyone know by now the PS3 is a beast when it comes to graphics..
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4.2 - he sounded silly
but i dont think he really cares or takes things all that seriously. he says controversial things and it gets him attention...
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Montreafart
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4.3 - Itagaki was just a fanboy who loved MSs checkbook.
Fact is: anyway that claims the 360 is more powerful than the PS3, is utterly delusional.
PS3 is simply the most powerful and anyone with an OBJECTIVE mindset knows this. This isnt exactly new either. People been saying this since the day PS3 launched. But to the 360 fanboys...lol.
I mean ask yourself how dumb and blind certain people are if they actually BELIEVED in MSs lies and MSs PR lies (like Itagaki) claiming nonsense that NG2 cant be done on PS3 and that 360 is most powerful.
ORLY? Get fking real. And after Uncharted, MGS4, and KZ2 there is no DOUBT about it anymore. PS3 is over 20 times more powerful than the 360.
Uncharted 2, Infamous, Heavy Rain, GT5 and GOW3 will continue to proof this.
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solidjun5
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5 - oh boy.
This is not going to end well.
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jackdoe
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Lol. No. Just like how NG was not a demo for NG Black. Or NG Black for NG Sigma. These types or re-releases are quite common in Japan, so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
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7 - *grabs popcorn*
And here...we.....go.
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shagari7
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I kind of agree because the 360 version sounds like it's just a beta version. The developers gave it to them so they could find out what is wrong with it and make it better for the ps3. It's great for ps3 owners to have all these new features and content, i definitely enjoyed the first Sigma and i hope this one is great too. It's sad that 360 owners aren't getting this because MS rushed the developers (like they do most of the time) but they can always try the game on a ps3.
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GameOn
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Xbox owners can already play this. Sure it doesn't have some of the extra features the PS3 version gets but its pretty much the same game.
Plus we get gore, which counts for alot.
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Montreafart
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8.2 - Its not the same game.
Not with 30 extra missions, fixed camera angles for better experience, new characters, new weapons, new gigantic bosses and coop.
The hell it is.
Its not just the graphics and resolution thats getting a facelift. Owned.
NGS2 is simply the best Ninja Gaiden experience in town.
EDIT: the gore does not make or break the game. PS3 can handle gore twice as gory as 360 at 1080P. The gore was taken out to appeal to a larger audience and non teen rating. And in a way, they made the right choice. Because like I said, the gore in the game, is not what makes or breaks the game. The gore has always been just an extra added feature.
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GameOn
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30 extra missions sounds really good but it's a complete shame they took the gore out. You think it's better without the gore?
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Unicron
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People used to joke about and say that the PS3 gets leftovers. Sadly, it's unfortunate that many 360 owners now have become public beta testers for unfinished titles that get superior PC and PS3 releases.
I take no pleasure in 360 only fans being snubbed, just as I take no pleasure in PS3 only fans of GTA and Fallout being snubbed. Sadly, money talks.
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Agreed. Everyone should get the same amount of content for the same money. Exclusive DLC is a horrible practice (that seemed to have started with MS and the 360)
But NGS2 is just a unique exception. Tecmo or whoever is doing this intentionally to dishonor Idiotgaki.
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LeGenDx
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10 - i would'nt call it a demo
but more of a uhmm.......... nevermind........
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Meh, it's just one game. Swings and roundabouts. When it(NG2) 360 heads were crowing and now we get the same from PS3 fans with their improved release.
Take your pick:have it first or wait til all the issues are dealt with. I'm sure neither Sony nor MS will be crying seeing as they'll both make/have made their money from Tecmos games.
Personally, I couldn't cope with that camera when I tried on 360 so this ois a big boon for m,e but nothing to get uppity about
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NarFan
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come on they need to add something to sell
can we call GTAIV or Fallout3 for ps3 a beta/demo cus xbox 360 have dlc for this games and ps3 dont?
anyway ps3 gamers this game is great enjoy it.
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Montreafart
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12.1 - You cant because GTA4 and Fallout 3 on the PS3 and 360 are IDENTICAL and released SIMULTANEOUSLY on both platforms.
You are epic failure. Whatever it was that you tried to convince us of, you failed epicly.
Also, its the 360 version of GTA4 that suffered from technical issues and as such, if one of the versions is a DEMO of the other, the demo would have been the 360 version.
Failure.
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Gun_Senshi
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Well DUH NG2 was rushed to release with MGS4...
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14 - Was Ninja Gaiden 2 just a full demo for the xbox 360?
yeah it pretty much was a demo that you had to pay 60 bucks for lol. Ill call it a beta though. I cant wait for the full release this year and I have to thank the x360 owners for the beta testing and makeing sure all the problems are spotted.
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DJ
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15 - No, the team is simply getting more experience on PS3.
And racking up some extra cash, since the original Sigma did very well. It was a good game, so it deserved it. With this title under their belt, they should be able to start doing simultaneous releases for both PS3 and 360.
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bob saget remix
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16 - the 360 is kind of a beta testers console
At least most 360 games seem like there still in the beta process.
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creatchee
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@bob_saget Umm... SOCOM Confrontation says hi. I'm still playing the beta on that one - and we're talking after almost 6 months and 3 massive (in terms of MB) patches.
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Sarcasm
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We get it. I get it. SOCOM Confrontation issues are horrible.
Let's move along now shall we?
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ceedubya9
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17 - Not really
It was a complete game in its own right. The PS3 version will be coming more than a year later. It only makes sense that it has upgrades and more modes than the original. Otherwise, it would be a waste of time.
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Ok, to be truthfully...we just cant start labeling off games as "full demos" just b/c they get a remake a year or so later. If that's the case then bioshock, eternal sonata, lost planet and the works were all just full demos cause they got a rerelease later on, on a different console. See where im going? My 2 cents
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PirateThom
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I think people need to ignore Ninja Gaiden 2 and see the deeper impact of this.
Team Ninja were a Microsoft focused developer solely because of Itagaki.
With Itagaki out of there and Hayashi now in charge, Team Ninja has already switched to PS3 development.
Future games are at stake here and, given what we've already seen, the next Ninja Gaiden game could just as easily end up a PS3 exclusive using the name "Ninja Gaiden Sigma 3".
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Yeah but it's not clear cut at this point.
If they indeed go to PS3 exclusive development, then oiy oiy oiy
However, Quantum Theory and now NGS2 is for PS3 only...
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PirateThom
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Are Team Ninja developing Quantum Theory? I thought it was another team within Tecmo.
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Shane Kim
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1 - Was Ninja Gaiden 2 just a full demo for the xbox 360?
It sure was.
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1.1 - Thanks for testing out our game for us, xbots. Ill be sure to enjoy the perfected game from the backs of your hard labour.
The ultimate ninja gaiden experience ---> only on PS3.
Sucks to be an xbot.
A game touted as one of 360s last exclusives and touted as permanent exclusive, nothing but a damn beta demo in the end. Sucks to be an xbot.
Thats what happens when you buy a 360. There is no developer in this world thats loyal to the 360 because they all know where 360 stands: faulty hardware and overhyped sales and MS arrogance.
You think companies like EPIC, Bethesa, Bungie etc enjoy working with MS? LOL if thats the case, then why do they talk bad about MS all the time? Care to explain that?
The only reason they are working with MS, is because MS writes big fat checks. Well, those days are over. And thus ends their relationship.
Hahaha
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Dmack79
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2 - haha
I can't wait to try out this superior version of NG2.
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With barely any blood, no dismemberment and toned down violence? NGS2 rated T for teen. Haha!
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Action Bastard
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Agreed. The gore exceeded what was even in NG and felt outta place and forced. But look what co-op says about PSN. XBL, the "superior" service, seems like it would've have been the first choice to enable that feature. But no, a free PSN gets it. And the better version, the version to buy. Haha. I love it.
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GameOn
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the gore did not look out of place. what do you think happens when you slice a limb off.
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Action Bastard
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Where was it in NG or NG Black? It wasn't need and as such, helped make it better than NG2. If Sigma 2 focuses on the combat, camera and co-op instead of "Hey, I cut an arm off...for the 15 thousandth time", I will buy it. Happily.
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why dont you have a guess why the extreme gore wasn't in the older Ninja Gaidens?
Could it possibly be because the old xbox wasn't powerfull enough, or a new idea.
Oh yeah and NG was only better than NG2 due to the way the game was set out (level design and story etc). Limb removal, gore and the combat system were the real improvements in NG2 most other aspects of NG2 were inferior to NG.
Fact of the matter is the gore is really good. they shouldn't take it out.
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Action Bastard
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Limb removal an impossibility on the Xbox 1, but Dead Space (with limb removal) was demo'd on it first. Please. Excessive gore isn't always needed. As the superior NG Black proves, matter fact, the superior NG Sigma proves. I'm a fan of gore, just not for gore's sake. And NG2 was a rushed framerate chugging, sh!t camera having mess. Glad I only spent $10 on it at Best Buy.
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4.1 - You mean it looked like a...
...N64 Demo!!! ;-D
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cmon xbox360 just die already :D
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yeah :D
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Socomer 1979
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6 - Blood & dismemberment:
bonus options !
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Exclusives always shine on the PS3. Good God how I hate that moneyhungry company MS. I just wonder how well all games would be if they weren't held back by crap fixme.
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That's what i've been saying since the crapbox came out.We always will get the superior version of the games and who cares if they get it first I have many games to keep me occupied.
Just bought a 500 gig hd for the ps3 for the same price as the 360 120 gig $130.00 lol...wtf is MS thinking ripping off the xbots.Someday they'll see the light but I doubt it.
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