Microsoft wants you to pay for Titan Pack on Unreal Tournament III

Cajun Chicken - 272 days 1 hour ago

I honestly prefered Epic when they were just working on the Unreal universe. I can't stand Gears. I'm thinking that Epic will find a new publisher for the next big franchise and be non exclusive like ID, I just hope its nothing like Gears.

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nbsmatambo - 272 days 1 hour ago

i dont know how EPIC is still dealing with Msoft, they have to contort everything they do so they can please MS...

All im saying is Sony says do wat eva the f*ck you want as long as we get a good game...

But Sony only has one good game from EPIC....

I think its about time Sony and EPIC strike up an xclusive deal

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- Ghost of Sparta - - 272 days 1 hour ago

Isn't the Titan Pack free on PSN?

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Game13a13y - 272 days ago

i'm just glad that Sony didn't decide to screw our back side over and over.

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socomnick - 271 days 23 hours ago

ok this story is retarded, i remember reading a story about how epic decided not to do the titan pack since most of the content in the content pack was already on the 360 version, all the new maps, and splitscreen. Is this story seriously just making bs up.

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evrfighter - 271 days 23 hours ago

"i dont know how EPIC is still dealing with Msoft, they have to contort everything they do so they can please MS... "

I don't feel bad for them tbh. After they delivered UT3 to pc gamers and blaming piracy because a mediocre shooter didn't sell millions. It's king of a nelson (simpsons) HA-HA moment.

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Viper7 - 271 days 23 hours ago

"ok this story is retarded, i remember reading a story about how epic decided not to do the titan pack since most of the content in the content pack was already on the 360 version, all the new maps, and splitscreen. Is this story seriously just making bs up."

Actually patch 1.10 already brought most of the x360:s extra features so Titan pack has the X360 versions extra maps with unique maps. Titan pack however brings a lot more maps with new game modes.

At least on Pal territories you can already download the latest UT3 patch for PS3, it brings trophies, Mod browser(great feature), splitscreen and the bug fixes.

So Titan pack really has nothing to do with X360 extra content, other than to provide the few bonus maps it had for Ps3/PC. Other than that its completely new material.

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Cajun Chicken - 271 days 23 hours ago

I hear that PS3 patch is unsafe or was that just the Titan pack being up temporarily in error?

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Viper7 - 271 days 21 hours ago

The patch has been released and works like a charm. But the actual DLC got delayed. Dunno for what reason, maybe a slight error in code or something that made it not to pass the tests.

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ThanatosDMC - 271 days 14 hours ago

Meh, i have this game on Steam and on the PS3... The Ps3 one is just there collecting dust... online with any platform... sucks... too laggy servers.

If i knew how to make my own dedicated server, i would make one.

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Sitdown - 271 days 14 hours ago

"I can see them keep the GeoW in the xbox 360 and M$ console; but I really don’t see them going for another exclusive with M$ ever again.

especially the way M$ treats their wells. "

I sort of feel like the sales for Gears 1 and 2 say/dictate otherwise. Seriously...would EPIC walk away from Microsoft because they do not allow them to release free content?...that they(EPIC) would not be potentially making any money off of? But before all that...I would be interested to see or know what other games EPIC would be scheduled to make.

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Mozilla89 - 271 days 11 hours ago

That Epic would do a multiplatform deal instead of an exclusive deal with MS. I'm really looking forward to this DLC though, it looks interesting.

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y0haN - 271 days 10 hours ago

Microsoft wants you to pay for a patch over 8 megabytes, lol.

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jro211 - 271 days 3 hours ago

What are you talking about. Microsoft has done enough to make themselves look bad and what does it matter? People still buy.

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Beardown82 - 271 days 17 hours ago

Does anyone even play Unreal III anymore?

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Viper7 - 271 days 11 hours ago

The console versions have probably been quite quiet for the past few months, but the Pc versions of UT games seem to have nice and solid fanbase of modders and hc players.

Hopefully atleast Ps3 versions will get more attention now that some of the mods are a lot easier to download and install. Epic should have updated the game with some sort of Ranking or level system that would have kept the achievers more interested. Ofcourse the trophies can keep ppl interested for quite a while (some of them take quite a long to achieve.)

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macalatus - 272 days 1 hour ago

LOL

I know!

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nbsmatambo - 272 days 1 hour ago

yea, i caught that 2..

Funny thing is PS3 probably could have DLC that's 800GB in the future due to being able to change the HD and all =D

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edgeofblade - 271 days 13 hours ago

@nbsmatambo:

Wow, delusional much?

Not that I'm defending the 360's proprietary solution... pain in the ass..., I just don't think you had your head on straight when you said that. 4/5 of a TERABYTE? With what infrastructure do you suppose we transmit that kind of data? That would be gone... next month, not counting that everyone would be downloading it at the same time...

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nbsmatambo - 271 days 11 hours ago

im not saying they are gonna do it or it is gonna b there....

all im saying is that its possible to download something that's 800GB on the PS3, since we already know that there are already 1TB 2.5' SATA's being tested already...

and wats not to say that by 2016 there will be even a bigger HD's, and faster internet connections??

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MazzingerZ - 271 days 7 hours ago

Maybe that internet speed won't arrive to US anytime soon due to all the monopolies there that stop improvements in that matter but you can be sure that in Europe you'll get some crazy download speeds within 2 or 3 years.

100/10 MB is available here in Sweden since 2-3 years ago

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nbsmatambo - 272 days 1 hour ago

Lost and The Damned isnt a PATCH though, its DLC...

The Titan Pack is a PATCH, and MS does have a limit on PATCH size for the people who bought the Arcade units.

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Kushan - 272 days 1 hour ago

Nothing is stopping them releasing the additional content as a DLC pack as well as a patch. Look at Call of Duty: WaW - they released a new map for it and on PS3, it was part of the mandatory patch, but on the 360 it was an additional download. Other games have done similar things, I just can't remember which games off hand.
MS is definitely very arsey on "free" DLC, but enough games have it, so there's no reason why Epic couldn't do the same here.

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DJ - 272 days 1 hour ago

There's a difference between the two.

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Viper7 - 271 days 23 hours ago

Titan pack is DLC and patch is just a patch to make the game ready for titan pack and add new features.

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vhero - 271 days 23 hours ago

Your right and epic have commented on this very idea saying why should they spend days tearing it all apart and recoding just to suit MS? They said its basically impossible right now to split it up like this as some parts are too big so unless MS change the rules 360 owners ain't getting Titan pack.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 271 days 22 hours ago

I think it really bottles down to the build as Kushan said. The PS3 and PC version is closer, while the 360 version was delayed. Thus it got the most recent build (at the time). Patching it now would be a monumental task for incremental changes. Epic would probably just want to work on updates for Gears 2 instead rather than patch a game that isn't very popular on the 360. The PS3/PC patch was probably started on while the 360 was in development, but at some point got forked off. I'm just assuming though...

Another thing is as someone else mentioned, if it is a patch then they need to keep the Arcade consoles in mind. They might not have the space for the patch.

A final note, Left 4 Dead got a free DLC so there is no reason why such an old game as Unreal 3 couldn't get a free DLC. There have been other games receiving free DLC as well.

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Bathyj - 271 days 22 hours ago

Is everyone here on drugs?

It has nothing to do with any of that.

Epic could do it. The bottomline is M$ just wont give it away for free, and Epic wont charge for it.

Thats the same reason for all their other arguements. Epic always supports their games with free stuff after release but M$ dont want them to give away such a substanial download because it apparently under values all the crap they charge through the nose for on XBL.

This is all common knowledge.

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Kushan - 271 days 17 hours ago

Actually Call of Duty was both a patch and DLC and the next map pack is going to be the same (With the exception that the Map pack will cost you).

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Argento-Nox - 271 days 12 hours ago

@Kushan

If 360 doesn't have a limit for DLC, why has there never been a release of full 360 games on XBL, like Warhawk and Socom for the PSN?
Let's not kid ourselves, there is a limit with certain games as exception, even XBL only games have a limited size requirement.

We all know the PS3 can have it's harddrive freely changed without voiding the warranty, and is the only system with no true limit for DLC or full games as downloads.

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Elven6 - 271 days 10 hours ago

@Argento-Nox: Tomb Raider: Anniversary, Xbox Originals, etc say hi.

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kickaski - 271 days 5 hours ago

Does Microsoft ever put dumb restrictions on their download service? Did Microsoft ever stop Epic from releasing free content? Has Microsoft ever made developers jump through hoops? Was Tomb Raider Underworld ever supposed to be in chunks of DLC for Legend because of size restrictions?

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Handsome_Devil - 272 days ago

Actually M$ benefits this generation as well, without them the PSN would still sucks, and the PS3 wouldn't have games look and play like uncharted, LBP, Killzone 2........ ets

the competition always good my friend :)

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Cajun Chicken - 272 days ago

Yes they would. Those were in the works for a long time anyway, especially Uncharted and Killzone 2.n Nothing on the 360 scared Sony into making better games then the first party were already in the progress of making.
The best thing has been the 360 pressuring Sony to implement new features in the XMB and firmwares.

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Jellzy - 271 days 23 hours ago

Completely agree m8. The best thing in any industry at times is competition. Both Sony and Microsoft (I suppose the Wii does aswell to some extent) benefit from each other and their products strengths and weaknesses. It gives us as gamers a better overall experience due to an increase in quality across software and features etc..

+ bubs Cajun as alot of what uve written in the comments section (ive read anyway) has been spot on :D.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 271 days 22 hours ago

Competition is always good. Without competition we wouldn't have Xbox Live, Achievements/Trophies, Wii (waggle controls) and advanced hardware with oddball architecture like the PS3.

Thanks to competition we lost PS2 BC on PS3's. PS3 is the only console I know of that lost features instead of adding them. Too bad, and I refuse to pay $130 for a almost 10 year old console. They need to drop the price on that thing, especially since I paid my dues for the PS3 already.

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DarkArima - 272 days ago

OH yes! M$ lay off thousands of people then say ''Hey...we gave you a little too much cash on that last check.I know times are hard but if you could give us that money back..that would be great...''

power to ms? please...

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Bathyj - 271 days 21 hours ago

Thats the thing. I WONT be buying it. And its not even theirs to sell. Its Epics, and they WANT to give it away.

Everyones in business to make money, but not everyones strategy is to nickle and dime you every step of the way.

Epics strategy is obviously to make their customers happy, thereby forming some kind loyalty or respect for them. A fanbase.

M$ doesn't care about customer satisfaction, not if it doesn't affect actual sales. Thats why people might be so pissed about XBs reliability but who cares if you can buy a cheap arcade unit and keep using all your games. You're actually a better customer.

If I go into a hifi shop and the guy knocks $50 off a stereo for me, yeah he's got 50 bucks less today, but he probably got a customer for life. Or at least til he stops making me happy.
If however he charges 50 too much and I get ripped off, he makes a little profit for the day, but he'll likely never see me again.

I'm a very loyal person, but I'm fickle too. Good business is both parties being happy, not just one.

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callahan09 - 271 days 17 hours ago

Yeah I bought the PS3 version for the obvious reason, as well: It was a timed console exclusive. Didn't hit the 360 until about 7 months later. I was playing UT3 on my PS3 back in December of 2007.

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Microsoft Xbox 360 - 271 days 20 hours ago

Hows it like to be shafted by your beloved company?

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edgeofblade - 271 days 13 hours ago

You mean, people are still playing this on PS3? Good thing you have Killzone 2 now.

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 271 days 11 hours ago

Why would you stop playing a good game?

UTIII is fantastic! The mod support makes it better every day! Very few PC mods aren't cooked for the PS3 version.

It's a great community!

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Stubacca - 271 days 11 hours ago

I loved UT3 for the mods and all. I just completed the Killzone campaign and stuck on UT3 for the new features (split-screen?) and trophies but was disappointed they weren't out yet.

I love using the character mods and playing the flat wars levels etc. Cracking fun.

Can you still not get the mods for the 360? Pretty stupid like.

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 271 days 11 hours ago

I hate that.

Capcom did the same thing with Lost Planet. The PS3 version had a 5 GB mandatory install, poor shading, screen-tear, frame-rate drops, and LAG like none other. On top of all of that, it came out around the same time as like 5 other, better games.

What would possess them to think Lost Planet would sell on the PS3?

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