Microsoft Close to MGS4, FF13 Deals?

peksi - 809 days 15 hours ago

Yeah it's sad to see MS buy their way into everything. They've got more money than small countries so there's no stopping them.

But this is the way world works, I suppose all the big companies would do the same. Let's just hope the competition keeps up, no company must monopolize the industry.

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Jenzo - 809 days 14 hours ago

If the 360 is holding back the graphics for games of this generation, how come the 360 exclusives like Mass Effect, Bioshock and Gears of war look better than anything that is out on the PS3? Not only that, how come almost all multiplatform games look better on the 360 than on the PS3?

I know Sony have some strong titles up their sleeve like MGS4 and GT5, but people seem to forget that MS has loads of titles for 08 as well. Ninja Gaiden 2 will be amazing, and look amazing even though many of you try to deny it. It's OK for Killzone 2 to be at beta stage, but not for Ninja Gaiden 2.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of Splinter Cell: Conviction, Alan Wake (killer), Banjo Threeie, Fable 2, Naruto(coming this year), Lost Odyssey, Top Spin 3, Elveon (where are you?), Huxley, Halo Wars etc etc etc. And that's just some of the exclusives...

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gaffyh - 809 days 14 hours ago

I call bullshit until I see proper proof. These rumours were circulating a month ago and 2 months ago etc.

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Hatchetforce - 809 days 14 hours ago

Well keep calling bullshit because the Versus trailer from TGS says PS3 only at the end. Also in an interview just a few days ago, Nomura reiterated that Versus is exclusive to the PS3 and in fact he was gushing over the PS3 hardware and capabilities saying "On the PS3, all our dreams are realized."

Since MGS is linked into the same story do the math. It's bullshit. These morons from eMag love to make stuff up from what any idiot can see. Look at this phrase:

But they told us to "keep an eye on our website for updates" regarding any announcements on a 360 version of the anticipated title.

Every publisher in the world will say "keep an eye on our website for future updates" But it changes the meaning by eMag tacking on the part at the end about the 360. Notice that it is carefully placed outside the quotes - as in Konami didn't say that part.

Microsoft can't solve the DVD9 limitations for games like PGR4 which would have only needed a few extra gigabytes for textures, they damn sure can't solve the problem when Kojima is asking for Dual Layer Blu-Ray on MGS4. Add to that the fact they also cannot solve the DVD9 limitations on GTA4, a game for which they had to pay a very large pot of gold.

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Mwaan - 809 days 13 hours ago

The PS3 CANNOT outperform the 360! Who told you this?! Sony?! Games that were built from the ground up for the PS3 were easily ported to 360. Games like Devil May Cry, Virtua Fighter, etc. The creator of Metal Gear 4 himself said that he could port it to 360 without any problems! You can take the absolute best-looking PS3 games and move them to 360, but when you take 360 games and move them to PS3, well, there's some serious problems. I hope Microsoft does to Sony what Sony did to Sega. Then I won't have to look at these comments you people leave about how much better you think the PS3 is. Nobody is on here to defend the 360 because they're all currently enjoying great games like Halo 3.

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risk - 809 days 12 hours ago

but your here....lemme guess your console bricked.

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hazeblaze - 809 days 12 hours ago

LOL, this is such BS... We KNOW that MGS4 is launching soon and that there has been NO development on the 360. So that is already in the bag as a PS3 exclusive... and even if they DID do a port, we're talking a 1-2 yrs considering that they haven't even STARTED working on anything for the 360 (and Kojima said that he will not).

And JUST last week the producer of FF XIII confirmed that it will only be made for the PS3 b/c it is designed for that hardware... the trailer once again revealed ONLY ON PS3.

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ip-student - 809 days 11 hours ago

You are an idiot - I don't know why you keep posting the same crap over and over. The GPU on the XBOX 360 is superior to the GPU on the PS3. Basically, once you consider everything, the two machines are roughly equal in capabilities but the XBOX 360 is easier to program for.

For the rest - this is only a rumor but there is a big difference between MS and Sony - MS has the money to encourage Japanese developers to develop for their console. At this point in time I am not sure how much it is worth to pay developers to develop for your console but MS is concerned about the next generation - they have a weak presence in Japan and it might be worth 20-40 million to get a couple of extremely popular developers to jump on board. If nothing else it makes it very difficult to find a reason to buy a PS3 over a XBOX 360 when the big games are available for both consoles.

Will this happen - not so sure. But it is interesting to think about.

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BloodySinner - 809 days 10 hours ago

What a bunch of hypocrites some of you are. As if Sony hasn't been doing the "buy everyone" technique for the past few years. Business is business, people. Stick with it.

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u got owned - 809 days 10 hours ago

@1.10

exactly...

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solidt12 - 809 days 9 hours ago

If Sony looses these games it will be a hard sell for them. Yes the have alot of new IP Exclusives that are great but these are the two that everyone knows. Uncharted, and Killzone 2 will sell consoles regardless but MGS4 and FFXIII IS THE ONES THAT WOULD BUT THEM OVER THE TOP. Either way only MGS4 will help the 360 in America, i see no one in Japan buying 360 because FFXIII is on the system, they will still buy a PS3 if this game is multiplatform.

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SlappyMcTaint - 809 days 8 hours ago

Wow, has M$ defecated on your brain or what?! Your such a huge brainwashed xbot if you think having M$ dominating the gaming industry is a good thing! They've already wrecked computing with all there monoplies.

STFU, go wash your brain of poop.

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scottie2521 - 809 days 8 hours ago

MGS4 COMING TO 360!!!!!!

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uxo22 - 809 days 6 hours ago

Microsoft this, Microsoft that, 600mph this, 60 mph that.

How the hell is Microsoft holding back the graphics of the PS3 if the PS3 is the lead console on the game from the beginning? Don't even answer that JUST STFU!

Two weeks ago the Lambo was going 200-600 MPH, now it's 600-800 Mph, some people appear to be put on this planet for one reason and one reason only and that is to annoy others. This my friend is your calling.

Lastly, you talk all this SH!T about how microsoft is buying up everything and all they do is spend money and how they suck, then you end your comment by saying "I own stock in M$". DISGUSTING!

I say you're a frickin' Liar about the stock, NO NORMAL person would not want a company that they own stock in to do well, and that would include a stupid fanboy with stock in microsoft.

Do us all a favor and go cliff diving into the mouth of a volcano!

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samchris - 809 days 6 hours ago

LOL!!! That pic literally had me rolling. My co-workers (I'm at work right now by the way) had to come to my desk to see what was so funny. None of them are into video games so they didn't find the humor in it.

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Texas GMR - 809 days 6 hours ago

Maybe Microsoft didn't under-do-it after all, maybe Sony over-did-it. They should have went to the developers first to see what they needed for this generation, instead of pushing their own agenda.

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Mainman - 809 days 5 hours ago

@ Secret
I agree with you completely. Except for MGS4 graphics being toned down.

If you make a direct comparison, you only see the filters changed from the old trailers. Koji productions have been experimenting with the filters being used.

Trust me on this when I say this, MGS4 is NOT going multi-platform. Going multi-platform just isnt Koji-style.

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CyberSentinel - 809 days 4 hours ago

Instead of giving us gamers the games we WANT to play, they give us Sylpheed, and point their finger, and say... "see they don't buy games on 360" when clearly these are not the games we want to buy. (or even play for free for that matter)

Give us FFXIII with a *"SIMULTANEOUS" worldwide release date with other consoles (Wii included) and see if you point your finger then.

*it must be simultaneous, nobody wants to play a story driven game, AFTER the story has been told a year ago, and you already know the ending to.

I love JRPG's. I own Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata and I can't wait for Lost Odyssey.

The way for square to survive in an American/European market place is by doing what they do best, RPG's. FFXIII is the game WE ALL WANT TO PLAY. lets be real. The FPS market is VERY crowded in the American/European gaming market. What chance do they really have at competing in that genre? Do what you do best Square/Enix.

Don't try to force me to buy something I don't want to buy, in order to play those games (ps3) because you will loss me.

I'm not saying play favorites, or choose sides...give as ALL a choice, and show love to all 3 consoles.

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Niedermayer_20 - 809 days 2 hours ago

just got to say all xbox birds well galo 3 is garbage it freezed disc are scratched lack of power lack of high def dont ya see microsoft too busy buying everything cause their hurtin and there fore no money to spend on galo 3 and other such titles, xbox has no power what soever just a bunch of red lights appearing micro soft cant play this game why do u think they bought paramount cause they no transformers will look better on blu ray oh well XCOCKS the box cheats why do u think the old xbox president went onto easports so they could sabotage ps3 titles and run them and 30 fps instead of 60fps they two scared to unleash the ps3 power u guys are just idiots go back and play ur galo 3

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reaferfore20 - 808 days 17 hours ago

" how come the 360 exclusives like Mass Effect, Bioshock and Gears of war look better than anything that is out on the PS3?"

First off IMO Heavenly Sword looks way better than these games. That being said, all three of these games use the exact same engine. Unreal 3 hasn't been released yet and it's supposed to look better than any other game that uses this engine. (Hence: UNREAL ENGINE) So wait for UT3 to come out then see if those games look better than anything on the Playstation 3.

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reaferfore20 - 808 days 17 hours ago

Damn double post.

While I'm here, FUQ monopolies. They screw everyone over in the end. If these games were released multi-plat because of money they wouldn't be as good in the end. I don't think they will be unless they find a new compression method of have to put it on multiple DVD9 discs. Which if you think about it, the first MGS was on two discs; and FF7 was on three. SO, who really cares? I'll play 'em when they come out on whatever they come out on first.

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ukilnme - 809 days 12 hours ago

The ending for Halo 3 was revealed early too but that did not stop millions from buying it anyway. Nevertheless I still hope these titles stay PS3 exclusive. Now back to setting up my 50" Samsung and my Elite.

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HowarthsNJ - 809 days 12 hours ago

It's just a feeling I have. Possibly because it's a separate game from MGS4 which will contain a "starter pack" whatever that means.

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Jenzo - 809 days 11 hours ago

MGS Online would not be able to compete with the online titles that are on offer for the 360. It's mechanics look stiff and dated. Compare it to online perfected titles like Halo 3, COD 4 or even older games with multiplayer like Splinter Cell:DA or GOW and it just looks clumsy and out of place.

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actionjackson - 809 days 11 hours ago

You just pointed out the major issue in MS's campaign to secure these titles. And you know what, I'm starting to think these titles will end up on the X360. However, I am really concerned with the unorthodox methods MS in employing to get their outcome. They paid $50M to Rockstar for exclusive content on a game which will appear on a competitors machine. Developing GTA probably did not even cost $50M. They will probably offer $100M each for these games to appear on the X360. Granted they have the money to pull this off, and a rational person (the developers) would be fools not to take these offers especially when the game is already developed for. However, this is outrageous at best. MS's financial force will have an impact on this industry that will last a long time, and I truly feel that gamers will ultimately suffer as a result. The gaming industry should not turn into a PC software based war, such as the one MS is fighting with McAfee and Symantec (past example Netscape v IE). Ironically, every product which has been challenged by MS's brute financial force has been superior to the product MS is offering, but the consumer ends up with MS's product. If MS thinks flooding the market will raise their market share, they are absolutley correct, it will. If they think they are doing the gaming industry justice, they are absolutely wrong. MS doesn't believe in coexistence. They believe in total domination. As a result, we the consumer are left with inferior products. Frankly, my year long hesitation to get an X360 was primarily due to this. I eventually got one for the games that were coming out this year. However, I felt like I didn't want to support this company that has a tendancy of ruining functional industries. I've experienced 2 system crashes/replacements, and just shook my head both times. It reminded me of "Fatal Error" on previous windows OS's. Everyone just sucked it up and took it from MS for years. What should I do when I've already invested my financial resources into this system? If they infact get these titles, I won't mind. But what I will mind is the means at which they obtained them, which will be with unorthodox amounts of money. This is one major difference between Sony/Nintendo and MS. Sony/Nintendo have a history of investing in a game alongside the developer. They have financially supported products for the cost of development, so that a certain game remains great and exclusive to their console. But how can they keep this up if someone is offering 2, 3, 5, 10 times the amount of the cost of development. They can't and they won't. This will oversaturate the industy. Competition as we know it, which is great for the consumer, will turn to a streamlined industry with all games appearing on all consoles, which is horrible for the consumer.

And finally, there is something nostalgic that certain games appear exclusively on competing consoles. Halo would not appear right on PS3, Mario would not appear right on X360/PS3, and MSG and FF just won't be the same if on X360.

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Nicosia - 809 days 10 hours ago

Not to offend ps croud, but sony did the same thing with ps1 buy out exlcusives. The biggest one was final fantasy, so this pratice has been know for a while.

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m9105826 - 809 days 8 hours ago

Sony didn't buy the FF franchise, Square wanted a bigger storage medium and they knew that, cartridge or CD, they would need more than one. CD was the cheapest way to go, so they went with PSOne.

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Wolfmoonstrike - 809 days 6 hours ago

square soft used to be a first party devoloper for sony before the merge with enix. (ahh squaresoft the good ol' days)

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actionjackson - 808 days 19 hours ago

If you read my post correctly, it states clearly that Sony/Nintendo HAVE invested in many products with developers. I was merely stating that my concern comes from the unorthodox amounts of money that MS is spending to get their exclusives. These astronomical amounts are unprecedented, which cannot be denied. My post is not a Sony vs. MS post. It's a post comparing MS vs. Sony/Nintendo vs. gaming industry vs. consumer. Please read my post before jumping to conclusions. All your answers are in there.

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The Round Peg - 809 days 16 hours ago

checked Jordan LeDoux (author and researcher of the rumor.) He's a contributor for PSU.com. He has posted many articles and podcasts on PSU. Samples:

http://ps3.psu.com/Ratchet-...
http://www.psu.com/PS3-HD-C...
http://www.psu.com/PSU-Podc...

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The Round Peg - 809 days 16 hours ago

Three Speech identifies the editor Anthony Hanes (who posted the rumor in the forum) as a contributor and industry insider. 3Speech: "This one’s from American-based Three Speech regular and industry insider Anthony Hanses…"

So he's checked.

http://threespeech.com/blog...
http://threespeech.com/blog...

Both PSU and 3Speech are Sony's mouthpieces. Why are two Sony guys spreading this rumor?! I don't get it.

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Fighter - 809 days 16 hours ago

LOL, replying to your own comments. Pretty lame.

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The Round Peg - 809 days 16 hours ago

I think it's just a marketing stunt.

Sony is spreading deliberate rumors to hype up their own exclusives. By cooking up such rumors, Sony think they can create the expectations and demands for those two titles. Any sort of rumor to keep those two games in the limelight, make people talk about them and get excited about them, and up their profiles is good (for Sony and PS3.)

Which, in a way, is a devious, sinister chicanery to hype their own exclusives.

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JordanL - 809 days 16 hours ago

Sorry to burst your bubble, but we're not actually attached to Sony or Microsoft. We explain more in our podcast which will be going up in about an hour if you're interested.

Nice tracking us down though. :) We're both open to scrutiny on this one, and we understand that. We talk about it in the Editor's note at the bottom of our article if you care to check it out.

EDIT:

Just to give you a scoop that me and Anthony have done in the past, Anthony was the person that broke the story about the PS3 needing one SPU reserved for the OS and 96MB of RAM.

http://web.archive.org/web/...

http://web.archive.org/web/...

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The Round Peg - 809 days 15 hours ago

If you're not going to name your sources, you should at least give a rough time frame for how soon or late your speculations will come into fruition. A week from now? A month? Six months? A year? Never?

It's okay if you don't want to identify your sources - but you are putting up your own reputation and credibility to back up your claims.

Without a time frame, this sort of rumor is just useless. Let say it does not happen a year from now, you can still say, "well, they're still working on it."

Anyway, I think your submission has a snowball's chance in hell of getting approved. (But I've approved it after I had checked you.) The Sony fanboys are going absolutely berserk right now.

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gtgcoolkid - 809 days 15 hours ago

You opened an account 16 days ago and magically this "story" come on that is trying to get hits on that site. Good job. (sarcasm) God so much bs. Hopefully this doesn't get approved.

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JordanL - 809 days 15 hours ago

4.6

I submitted it because the site is small, so no one else will, and its something I think gamers will find interesting.

I realize that this puts my own credibility on the line as well as the sites. We might be able to publish time frames soon, but that was something we just couldn't go forward with right now.

The fact that we are putting ourselves out there says a little bit about how confident we are with our sources.

4.7

Actually I created an account 16 days ago for some work I was doing with PSU. If you don't want to believe our article, then don't. :) You don't have to if you don't want to.

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UnasFortuna - 809 days 11 hours ago

Why would Sony submit these false rumors? That is the dumbest explanation yet. By stating that these games are going to go multiplatform, they would essentially be stealing their own thunder per se.... then would be no reason for others who are on the fence about getting a PS3 to get one since it would be coming to their platform. If the rumors are true, Sony should fight to keep these exclusives (not timed releases either). I personally have never played the final fantasy or MGS series since I never like PS before the PS3; however, the MGS series does look great and I can't wait to buy it.

As far as the dumb@sses who state that the graphics are better on the 360 are just silly little fanboys. The only multiplatform games that I have seen and played on both systems that look and play crappy are the ones from EA and a couple of other ports (mostly EA); however, I hear that EA is in deep crap due to their performance record with their games on both systems (glitches, freezing, etc...) and this is a problem with both 360/PS3. I thought it was just their ports to the PS3 but finding major problems with the360 versions has changed my opinion on this (but I still refuse to buy any more EA products until this is resolved).

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m9105826 - 809 days 8 hours ago

I know Jordan from over at the PS3Forums. He's a well-respected guy over there, but I hop that in this case, he isn't right.

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