Nintendo oversaturating their core titles

sidar - 40 days 9 hours ago

Well as long they make their games more challenging.

Besides, Metroid another M is not a direct sequel to metroid prime. ( its just a different time period), different gameplay mechanism.
Zelda TP was a GCN game.

Its a bit over the top really.

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jjohan35 - 40 days 4 hours ago

Nintendo just releases the same games over and over with a little variety. How many more mario karts and mario tennis and mario soccer do we need?

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Arius Dion - 39 days 17 hours ago

I find it odd as well, Galaxy 2 was sort of shocking as I'd rather see Nintendo visit other stellar franchises, but is Nintendo and Activision are the only ones guilty of this? Uncharted 2, Gears 2, 2nd Ratchet game, another Onrails RE, Lost Planet 2..I really could go on.

Seems gaming is following Hollywood's lead...Not so sure that's the right path to follow.

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FarEastOrient - 39 days 16 hours ago

Wii has new IPs also called Wii Sports and Wii Music &_&

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iceman06 - 40 days 5 hours ago

You CAN have too much of a good thing...and most of the times it leads to something not as good...even BAD. Too much sugar over time can lead to diabetes...too much fatty foods leads to atherosclerosis...too many games can lead to....just that...too much of the SAME thing. Think about Halloween or Easter when you were younger. If you were anything like ME...then you probably raked in the candy...only to have a good chunk of it sitting in a bag and getting old months later. It's not because you didn't like candy anymore...you just got tired of it.
Even if the games are GOOD...or GREAT...it is hard to believe that anybody can push a genre forward releasing rehash after rehash. Plus, critics will eventually get tired of it and rate it lower JUST because it IS a rehash of a title. Not saying that Nintendo are in this position TODAY...but there is the DANGER that they get comfortable cashing in and NOT innovating on the SOFTWARE side.

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oobob - 39 days 15 hours ago

"Even if the games are GOOD...or GREAT...it is hard to believe that anybody can push a genre forward releasing rehash after rehash. Plus, critics will eventually get tired of it and rate it lower JUST because it IS a rehash of a title. Not saying that Nintendo are in this position TODAY...but there is the DANGER that they get comfortable cashing in and NOT innovating on the SOFTWARE side."

I was thinking about this as I was playing Rachet and Clank 8 and checking my MW2 (COD 6) preorder while posting my user review of uncharted 2. Since I RRODed I haven't been able to play Halo OSDT or Resident Evil 5 or SF4 so I've had more ps3 time, but at least I have Fallout 3. And I realized - the wii needs to innovate in software and quit rehashing these old titles.

Did you see the screenshots of Gran Turismo 5? Incredible.

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cheapndirty - 39 days ago

Oh the irony.

In n4g thinking terms: It's different when those titles do sequels.

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Arius Dion - 39 days 17 hours ago

You want to talk dipping in the same well, look no further than music games, sports games and CoD. I don't think I've bought a madden game since 08 on Wii, and I'd sell it back if they'd give me more than 2.50$ for it. What am I going to buy with that? a PowerAde?

I had W@W for Wii and it was ok, but Conduit online blew it away.

I don't care at all about music games, they just aren't my thing. But I mean Activision must really be trying to destroy these 'franchises'
I can garauntee that but a week after MW2 releases people will either be returning the game, burning the game or talking about what MW3 needs to improve on. Like that Jay-Z song says "on to the next one"

Nintendo is smart in that the try to keep certain franchises to a minimum 1 game per gen; Brawl, Kart. Though the times they don't, they often times try to do the same franchise but try something new or different.

Would I rather have Star Fox or Wave Race or Pilot Wings or Kid Icarus instead of galaxy 2? Damn Right. But am I excited for NSMBWii? damn right.

Plus I've said this before but I feel TP is a gamecube game with tacked on Wii controls (not a bad thing, and I know you are a big fan of TP so I'm not trying diss you here) I feel the ground up Zelda for Wii is the one we should consider Wii's true Zelda. And if we do that its only 1 Zelda game on the system.

As for other m...C'mon, you see my avatar ;)

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oobob - 39 days 15 hours ago

"Would I rather have Star Fox or Wave Race or Pilot Wings or Kid Icarus instead of galaxy 2? Damn Right. But am I excited for NSMBWii? damn right."

SMG vs Wave Race vs Star Fox is so hard for me to call ;) They should make all of them!

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EvilTwin - 39 days 9 hours ago

Arius -- Oh, no offense taken at all. I love LoZ:TP as much as anyone, but the motion controls WERE tacked on. It was a GC game that got delayed a year to bolt on motion controls. I think it truly did work for most of the time, but those controls felt like what they were...at best, launch title technology.

You're spot-on with music games. If there is any genre that is competing with WWII shooters for oversaturation, music games are it.

...and finally, Other M. What I wouldn't do for more gameplay vids. Team Ninja are such a tease.

oobob -- I'm still holding out hope for Retro's secret game to be Star Fox. What a game THAT would be.

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oobob - 39 days 15 hours ago

Star Fox 64 is the best air shooter I've ever played.

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Arius Dion - 39 days 17 hours ago

I love all the Wii haters though, they are amusing as all hell. But seriously the only thing oversaturated is the amount of articles a day n4g allows that bring the same old nonsense to the table. This article excluded as I feel the author does bring up a good point. I'd rather have a new Star Fox than Galaxy 2.

Whatever though, I have perspective, and with all things considered, Wii dominates this gen, thoroughly. When you have to add together BOTH competing systems just to have a "competitive argument" that should give you all the perspective you need. Wii's going to become Nintendo's best selling console EVER in all but 6-8 weeks. That is over 60million consoles sold in 3 years. PS2 was at 40-45m or so during the same time frame.

During a year where Wii is down yoy it is still outselling its competition often times, COMBINED. Also, notice how the only argument haters have is Wii being down yoy after breaking every record in the book last year for console sales. There's far more positives in Wii's favor than negatives, but negative stories generate the most hits, it seems.

Wii sells the most software, the most hardware, competitors are following its lead by shoehorning motion controls onto their competing consoles.

But no one cares about that, let's see what negative, often times RIDICULOUS criticism we can conjure up tomorrow. It's all about perspective and that's what's needed on these forums, and others like it.

There are legitimate criticisms to be made about the Wii and ALL consoles for that matter, but here it just becomes a pi$$ing contest filled with flamebait and fanboys.

Count me out.

EDIT: I'm not so much dissing this particular article as much as other ones I've been seeing on here lately so I'm addressing that observation on this post. I just want to be clear here so that intention doesn't get lost in translation as internet talk often does. This article is not flamebait and is one that brings up a legitamit argument.

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Mahr - 39 days 17 hours ago

"This is probabloy the core reason why there have been anti-wii article after anti-wii article flooding n4g these days."

Shnazz, you have to understand, it's more or less been this way around here from the beginning. Rewind three years and you have people complaining about the name, or what the controller looks like, or the lack of graphical power. A year later, you have all the complaints abut the marketing push for fitness games and getting non-traditional consumers to buy these games. A year after that, you got the seven-hundred "Wii is not hardcore, Wii music is going to destroy the industry" articles, the offshoots of which we're still getting today.

Personally, I think it a bit of a shame that a lot of the people from those days are gone. Whatever happened to gametheory? I rather miss his rants about how he wanted to shoot me and have everyone who disagreed with him put in a concentration camp.

You can't really take any of these things seriously. For instance, I imagine in a little we'll be getting swamped by a wave of 'Bayonetta is outselling MadWorld! Wii is not hardcore!' articles that will ignore obvious differences in production values, game style, and theme but will nonetheless all reach the same conclusion (which they reached back in '06). It's like birds migrating south for the winter -- it's not something they consciously think about, they just sort of do it.

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oobob - 39 days 15 hours ago

"You can't really take any of these things seriously."

Anyone here who reads a ps3 thread understands that you can't take most video gamers seriously. Core n4g readers are mouth breathers who think "Hello World" is a bedtime story.

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EvilTwin - 39 days 9 hours ago

It comes down to this -- whoever is on top gets the most fanboy hate.

Last gen, the PS2 was the least powerful of the "big three" consoles, sold the most hardware, and still got a massive amount of hate (especially from shooter fans who thought Sony couldn't compete with anything Bungie made) despite having a fantastic library of games.

This gen, it's the Wii.

Comes with the territory, I guess. If Microsoft "wins" next gen, they'll be on the receiving end of the most fanboy angst.

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