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Infinity Ward: Wii can't deliver on our goals

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Develop-Online: "Infinity Ward has ruled out development on Nintendo's Wii console after stating that the platform cannot meet the studio's ambitions.

As part of a wider interview with Develop, Infinity Ward community manager Robert Bowling implied that the Wii's humble hardware specs are at odds with the studio's aim to deliver cinematic experiences.

Bowling also suggested that Infinity Ward could work on new IP after the release of Modern Warfare 2, though at the same time insisted that the studio was still enjoying making Call of Duty games."
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jhooty14 - 41 days 18 hours ago
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wii < Nintendo 64

how u can u compete with goldeneye and supersmash bros :)
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shingo - 41 days 16 hours ago
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iw: "we can't deliver on our goals"

ummm, sure. glad you've confessed it.
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Maddens Raiders - 41 days 14 hours ago
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1.2 - Jeez -
I could really give two shyts about IW, but c' mon, the Wii is such a massive fail for this generation. Yeah, I said it.... and yeah, yeah I hear all of the bu-bu-but the sales...I don't care (I know Ninty does though) I'm just saying as far as really pushing the entire industry forward ---> this generation(esp. tech-wise, it's just a little chunk of fail....

...they went after the easy money and pulled a Faustian move to do it ---> and yes, it worked. On the other hand, M$ tried the same thing but it [the "rush it out early & cheap" plan] backfired a hell of a lot when it became apparent that the hardware wasn't even worth toilet paper, and the format war, PS3 Slim @ $299, KZ2, Uncharted 2, etc...that's just making the bowl water spin even faster.

Oh well, that's just the way I see it from 35,000 feet...but back OT, yeah how can you blame IW for speaking the truth on this one?
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SL1M DADDY - 41 days 13 hours ago
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1.3 - "I could really give two shyts about IW, but c' mon, the Wii is such a massive fail for this generation. Yeah, I said it.... and yeah, yeah I hear all of the bu-bu-but the sales...I don't care (I know Ninty does though) I'm just saying as far as really pushing the entire industry forward ---> this generation(esp. tech-wise, it's just a little chunk of fail...."
Go on there MR, tell us how you really feel. Go on, spill the beans.
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badz149 - 41 days 13 hours ago
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1.4 - Nathan Drake reads the title of this article
"thanks for the updates captain obvious!"
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Goomba12 - 41 days 12 hours ago
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"I'm just saying as far as really pushing the entire industry forward ---> this generation(esp. tech-wise, it's just a little chunk of fail.... they went after the easy money and pulled a Faustian move to do it."

I swear you people kill me who think this generation has been pushed forward. Everything my pc did back 4 years ago is being trickled down to consolse now. If that in itself means being pushed forward, Sh!t we are in for a doomed industry.

Here let me post something for you.

Here is last years fiscal reports for the video game industry:
http://neogaf.net/forum/sho...

That post includes every major company in the video game industry with accurate information pulled from official reports from every companies year end earnings.

Take a look at the industry as a whole.....see anything interesting?

Do you see how the industry is down almost 300 million dollars? Yea, this generation is really pushing the industry forward alright.
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sidar - 41 days 12 hours ago
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"I swear you people kill me who think this generation has been pushed forward. Everything my pc did back 4 years ago is being trickled down to consolse now. If that in itself means being pushed forward, Sh!t we are in for a doomed industry. "

Absolute win xD
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sikbeta - 41 days 12 hours ago
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Infinity Ward: Wii can't deliver on our 1.5 goals

MW1.5 for:

PC
PS3
xbox 360
wii

Bobby Kotick: if it was left to me, I would port the game in more systems:

PS2
GC
N64
xbox
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O2_Addict - 41 days 10 hours ago
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1.8 - What they really mean
is that they can't deliver on their sales goals.

Mad World's relative failure is proof that Wii owners really don't care for the kinds of games that typically appeal to Xbox fans.

What were they thinking?
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EvilTwin - 41 days 8 hours ago
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O2_Addict -- That would make sense if COD had failed spectacularly on Wii. But it hasn't. W@W sold quite well, and was actually one of the reasons Activision decided to go ahead with a COD4 port.

Maddens Raiders -- "How can you blame IW for speaking the truth on this one?"

Ummm...because it's not really truth?

Metroid Prime 3 was plenty beautiful, quite lengthy, and the most cinematic of all the Prime trilogy. If that's what IW is aiming for, then it CAN be done. Just ask Retro. IW simply doesn't want to, and that's perfectly fine (but that's what they should say; it's about desire to do something more than capability).

But if Activision tells them to supervise a MW2 port like they did with the COD4 port, then they'll do it. If a boss says jump, you either say "how high?" or leave. And that's why the smack talk is kinda useless.
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Budg3tG4m3r - 41 days 8 hours ago
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Do to the fact that there are more Wii's than 360's and PS3's combined they could at least try. I understand the Wii has weak hardware and next to no multiplayer but there is a huge market there. I can understant IW not wanting to take their resources away from the 360, PC, or PS3 but they could hire another team. Every casual gamer that once owned a PS2 now owns or will buy a Wii. Should make them some kind of port just to make some extra $.

Maddens Raiders how is the Wii a fail when it's the most popular and most sold gaming console? I don't understand your logic unless you mean it's a fail for the hardcore market. If it's numbers no need to be jealous it's Nintendo they been making game consoles longer than Sony and MS cimbined. I'm not just defending the Wii because I own one, I also own a 360 and will own a PS3 in January. Maybe I just don't understand fanboy logic. So please don't take this like I'm attacking you, I'm new to the site and would hate to lose bubbles because I had a debate with a fanboy.
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O2_Addict - 41 days 8 hours ago
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1.11 - Oh yeah?
Same to you!

Seriously. WoW did sell well but it's an exception to the rule. Developers don't spend money on development unless they think there's a chance at making money. Despite what they tell the press they couldn't care less about "most powerful platforms" or any of that other nonsense.

Money is everything. No money = no job. If they thought they could make money off the Wii they'd do it in a heartbeat.

The only exception is if they've been bribed not to.

Wait a sec. Bribes? Who would be dastardly enough to try and bribe a developer??

Surely not ...
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frostypants - 41 days 6 hours ago
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"Everything my pc did back 4 years ago is being trickled down to consoles now."

Care to offer some examples? Even from a graphical perspective, PCs haven't done jack for pushing the envelope since Crysis...which is a 2 YEAR OLD GAME. Other than that one title, consoles are biting at the PC's heals in most cases...not because the console hardware is as good as a high-end PC's, but because developers just don't care to put forth the effort to push PCs to their limits anymore. The layman will never see much difference between consoles and PCs in most cross platform titles, and most PC exclusives these days are from studios that simply lack the resources to pull off a "Crysis" level production.

But please, prove me wrong! But I for one don't see anything from 4 years ago on PCs that can hold a candle to an Uncharted 2.

Overall, if anything is killing gaming its the glut of FPS games. It's all some developers know how to make anymore. In that sense John Carmack could be the biggest historical disaster to befall the gaming scene.

I don't have a horse in this race...I own both a PS3 and a home-built PC. In fact I am playing Dragon Age on my PC...because it looks a LITTLE better and is cheaper.
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scissor_runner - 41 days 4 hours ago
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Console are where developers go to find newbs and kids.

Epic the under acheivers ran from pc gaming once we pc gamers told them to suck it.
Splash damage made a mod a long time ago called wolfenstien and it had all the crap you guys praise. Then on top of this quake wars is pretty much better than all fps out now even crysis. Then on top of all of that we can play all of your multiplatform games at gasp! 60fps+! and we can make our own content.

Seriouly you guys need to stop talking about what you don't know about. Seriouly when will console games even start to run in hd or at pc fps.

No one cares about iward. Let them milk the sheep you guys deserve each other.
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oobob - 41 days ago
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"Care to offer some examples? Even from a graphical perspective, PCs haven't done jack for pushing the envelope since Crysis...which is a 2 YEAR OLD GAME. Other than that one title, consoles are biting at the PC's heals in most cases...not because the console hardware is as good as a high-end PC's, but because developers just don't care to put forth the effort to push PCs to their limits anymore. The layman will never see much difference between consoles and PCs in most cross platform titles, and most PC exclusives these days are from studios that simply lack the resources to pull off a "Crysis" level production."

They make mods to improve the graphics of older games. Oblivion has tons of mods to make it look better, down to even face textures. Look at the natural mod for Crysis - yeah, it looks even better.

By definition the graphics on a pc will be better. You can do better than 1080p natively rendered with 8xaa and 8xaf most times. That isn't a trivial difference when you consider most console games aren't even 1080p native. If you don't notice you need a better monitor or eyes.

You also ignored FPS. Are you telling me you don't notice 30fps to 60fps? Aiming is many times easier on 60, particularly sniping. It's a total joke.
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mrnintendo96 - 38 days 1 hour ago
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The reason that MadWorld sold so badly was because of the gore, art-style, and repetitiveness of the game.

All the Call of Duty games on the Wii sold VERY well.

"Bowling also suggested that Infinity Ward could work on new IP after the release of Modern Warfare 2, though at the same time insisted that the studio was still enjoying making Call of Duty games."

Infinity Ward better make a new franchise, because by if I see Modern Warfare 3 in 2011, Call of Duty franchise will be pretty old by then. I don't want Infinity Ward to be the company that milks it's franchise until it gets pretty old (*cough*, *cough*, Bungie Studios).
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Gandalf - 41 days 17 hours ago
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ape007 - 41 days 17 hours ago
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3 - IW
you don't even have to mention it

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badz149 - 41 days 13 hours ago
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3.1 - I hope
they are not mentioning all these stuff because they are thinking that gamers are stupid! Wii is incapable, period! no rocket science needed there!
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ndpad - 41 days 16 hours ago
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From article:
“Right now, we don't think the Wii can deliver the exact experience that we’re doing. We like to be very equal across all platforms, and if it’s not equal then we won’t do it.”

Ask a PC owner about equal
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CaulkSlap - 41 days 15 hours ago
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mal_tez92 - 41 days 15 hours ago
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4.2 - LOL
My computer looks crap compared to the playstation. Might upgrade it next year sometime
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 41 days 14 hours ago
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4.3 - Equal
60 bucks across all platforms.

What's not fair about that?

:)

If anything, it's not fair to console owners that all games are ten bucks cheaper on PC.

Also...don't worry about dedicated servers. You'll survive.
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t850 - 41 days 13 hours ago
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blame microsoft and sony for charging you the extra 10usd tax per game on their platforms.

as a gamer you should be asking for lower prices across platforms, not asking a cheaper platform (pc) to be raised in prices. If pc games were to become 59usd i am sure console games would be increased to 69usd (thats how microsoft sony make money), now would you really want a 69usd price tag per game?

If gamers put their foot down and refused to pay the high prices microsoft and sony charge.. i see no reason why game prices wouldnt go back to 49usd per game.

sure if you continue to bend over who knows next gen they may increase the tax and charge you 69usd per game with a charge to go online (sony included i am sure they feel left out).
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badz149 - 41 days 13 hours ago
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4.5 - equal?
thus the removal of mods and dedicated servers and possibly paid DLC later on! now THAT make sense! NOT! STUPID IW!
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OpenGL - 41 days 7 hours ago
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If Sony and Microsoft drop the royalty fee for making games on their platforms, they might as well discontinue the PS3 and 360 while they're at it. These consoles are sold for a loss, so they NEED the licensing money or they won't be able to make a new console next gen.

The difference here is that the PC is getting hit with the same price as the console versions, so Infinity Ward / Activision is simply pocketing the extra money that would normally go towards keeping the PS3 and 360 alive.
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Subzero200x - 41 days 15 hours ago
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5 - Wii can't deliver on our goals
Who cares their games are getting tried anyway, and soon nobody wil remember them just like medal of honor.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 41 days 14 hours ago
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Infinity Ward...the same guys who created the best WW2 shooter of all-time, introduced the leveling system to FPS's, and took us on great storyline-based campaigns along the way...are making you tired of them?

Lols. They've only done COD1, 2, 4, and MW2. 3 and World at War were CRAP!!! We have Treyarch to thank for that.

Seriously though...Infinity Ward is one of the most respected developers in the industry. If you have something negative to say about them, wait until they stop innovating and winning GOTY awards.
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Goomba12 - 41 days 13 hours ago
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"If you have something negative to say about them, wait until they stop innovating and winning GOTY awards."

Took them 4 tries to finally nail the WW2 scene and that was with Activision's infinitely deep wallet. And you are telling me to respect them?

I think a lot of developers in their shoes could produce that quality of game had they had the time and funds.
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5.3 - respect them for what?
for trying to charge extra for games? for removing dedicated servers and mods from the PC version? for not be able to produce a decent 720p games on consoles while others have done it? for talking crap about other dev? for what actually? or can you just give me some of what you're smoking over there asswipe!
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TheBand1t - 41 days 12 hours ago
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Get your history straight. DICE is one of the main innovators of the FPS level system. Each time you leveled up you could select a new weapon in BF2, and it came out in 2005.
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LEVELING!!! Buying new guns has been around for a long time. LEVELING has not!

It didn't take them 4 tries. I was talking about Call of Duty 2, ya moron.

World at War sucks! Treyarch did it...not IW.

It took them ONE try to make the best WW2 shooter ever made. It was called Call of Duty. Then, they made one even better: COD2.

You're all just jumping on the hate bandwagon because it "goes against the man". You think you're all part of some cause right now, but it's just sad.

These guys have made some of the best experiences in gaming history and you want to bash them just so you can feel significant.

I can't believe some of you graduated Jr. High.
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"for not be able to produce a decent 720p games on consoles while others have done it?"

Please show me another game on the consoles that looked as good as COD4 did, and ran at 60fps! Waiting...waiting...nope, there wasn't one! Of course it could be better looking if they used 270p, but then it wouldn't be 60fps, now would it?

I understand that PC gamers are pissed off about their servers, but this hating is getting retarded. LOLOLO COD 4.1 LOLOL.

Idiots.
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5.7 - now 60fps is defining a great game?
come on! they have to come out with something to cover up the 600p thing! but you guys out there suddenly goes crazy with "I'm ok it's sub-HD as long as it's 60fps" stuff just because it's IW! IW is no saint, when talking about AV releasing rehashed games over and over, they're just as bad! 600p? what is this, 2007? 600p for CoD4 was acceptable but the engine was also used for W@W and Quantum of Solace, this is the 4th game and it's still 600p! and by removing mods and dedicated servers while trying to charge more with the same 600p engine, is IW respectable? NO by a long shot!
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Going against the man? You're dumb as hell if you think like that. DICE = published by EA, which is just as big a money grabbing company as Activision.

DICE just happens to make a much better FPS than IW. Hell, I'd rather play CS then CoD4.
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didnt factor 5 say stuff like this
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wait till factor 5 brings a game that blows it appart in the graphics remember factor 5 said the game engine is 10 times more powerful than his cube 1 yet the cube 1 had more left in it so ill wait for retro studios,factor 5,zelda team,ect to prove him wrong plus not getting modern warfare reflex just because there is no wiispeak when it could have been done ill wait for GRINDER HVS said we wont show u any more of the game untill its looking magnificent so expect immence graphics with split screen,4 player co-op,2 player co-op,online MP,wii speak,Rankings,perks,ect they will go all out now they fund there own games trust me GRINDER 1 of the if not the best FPS 2010
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I believe them. Why waste time on the Wii? Why dim down the experience just so a "passable" title can get praise just because it's even slightly fun.

Conduit, anyone?

Infinity Ward shouldn't even be concerned with the Wii. These guys practically wrote the book on modern FPS's.
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"These guys practically wrote the book on modern FPS's."

Wow!! You must only play on consoles.
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badz149 - 41 days 12 hours ago
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8.2 - maybe you're 12?
DICE makes better FPS than IW period!
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OMG man I almost died laughing.

"These guys practically wrote the book on modern FPS's."

Battlefield 1942 came out on Sept. 2002. The first Call of Duty came out Oct. 2003. That's a year and one month. Battlefield 1942 was one of the greatest games ever. Mass multiplayer matches (60+). If I remember correctly, Call of Duty didn't even HAVE online. So DICE pretty much takes the leading role of every mass multiplayer FPS in WWII setting.

And then they came out with a little game called Battlefield 2 in June 2005. IW released CoD4 in November 2007. So no, they didn't write the book on modern FPS's.
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At above

thank you!!!!!
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As mentioned already...no, IW didn't write the book on FPS.

And Conduit was a small budget indie shooter. Its online was decent, but the single player wasn't.

But Metroid Prime 3 didn't have any problem delivering a beautiful and lengthy single player campaign, did it?

If IW doesn't want to spend the time developing for Wii, that's their prerogative. Saying they want to develop exclusively on HD consoles and PC is perfectly valid.

But making some lame excuse about not being able to achieve "cinematic" experiences? No, it can be done. They simply choose not to.
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8.6 - "These guys practically wrote the book on modern FPS's"
Wrong wrong wrong Wrong wrong wrong Wrong wrong wrong Wrong wrong wrongWrong wrong wrong Wrong wrong wrongWrong wrong wrong Wrong wrong wrongWrong wrong wrong Wrong wrong wrongWrong wrong wrong Wrong wrong wrong -

PLEASE do your homework on videogame history, because right now you buerried yourself.
YES they added some things over MANY years of making mistakes and fixing them, but FAR from the guys who wrote the book...VERY far.
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8.7 - "these guys practicly wrote the book on modern fps"
wow...say you ever heard of half life?
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look there graphics are good but seriously when did developers think they need the power of a ps3 to make a excellent looking game i dont buy it the ps2 was the weakest platform yet sony made devs push the console 133mhz graphics,243mhz proccessor,plus no T.E.V or anything like that and they made hardcore games on that console more than they did on xbox or gamecub the much more powerfull consoles yet this gen all of a sudden the devs need the power of a PS3 to get a nice game out the door i think infinity ward are crap if they were good devs they would take some time to check the best graphics the gamecube had and at least try and double or triple it considering the hollywood GPU is very powerful compared to gamecubes and the proccessor can reach frequences of 1.1ghz on wii plus major more memory for textures ect thats why devs like HVS,Factor 5,Nintendo,Square enix,Capcom,ect are the best in the industry infinity ward can get lost if i were nintendo i would say to them devs that didnt work on the most popular console ever u cant develop for our powerful console we have dedicated devs that do that job the ones that got on board with out first wii u cheeky gits get lost conduit is just okay ill say that but there next venture with 4 times the funding will prove what really can be done with a wii FPS trust me guys can the wii do graphics that look awesome yes MONSTER HUNTER 3,TATSUNOKO VS,RE DC,SMASH BROS,MARIO GALAXY,METROID OTHER M,ECT ARE SOME GAMES THAT WE KNOW OF WITH AMAZING GRAPHICS YES COMPARABLE TO 360 IN MY OPINION THATS THAT
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block of text crit me for 9000hp.
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You actually thought people were going to read that?
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This is why this generation is crap. You have developers that refuse to work in different evnironments than the high budget, well funded games they are used too. Makes you wonder if some of the game designers out there are uncreative, or a poor artist.

IW reminds me of that kid you know who's parents buy everything for him, even after hes out of college. Grandparents him into the company, and holds his hand until he's old.

I don't view any of those IW developers as great compared with what others have shown with a lower budget in less time.
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