Final Fantasy XIII Demo consumes 5.09GB of space

qface64 - 224 days 10 hours ago

that's almost the size of all of resident evil 5 and its only a demo too

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krackchap - 224 days 10 hours ago

the correct answer
http://i42.tinypic.com/abm7...

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TheAntiFanboy - 224 days 10 hours ago

The concept of compression is a myth to the Japanese.

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timmyrulz - 224 days 10 hours ago

Or how big the madatory install will be on the ps3

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Dirty Beaver - 224 days 10 hours ago

LOL this is funny as hell. Only one can wonder how much compressed dvd's the 360 will need to maintain even the most subpar of quality. As a smart and informed consumer i know what version i'm getting. What about the rest of you sheep?

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cmrbe - 224 days 10 hours ago

True that but with blu-ray there is no real need unless you are Kojima lol!.

Anyone that played MGS4 knows how amazing a game is in complete uncompressed HD both visually and audio wise.

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Dirty Beaver - 224 days 10 hours ago

@ above

And that is the reason why i will never settle for anything less. A lot of people are yet to experience true HD visuals with unconpressed audio and texture that is the reason why we still hear people (xbox owners) continuously lie themselves to bed that the 360 has any weight on the ps3.

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FamilyGuy - 224 days 10 hours ago

Too bad the PS3 isnt hacked in cases like this. There HAS to be more on the disc. This is in reference to the PSP demo of GOW Chains of Olympus and all the extra content on the demo past the actual demo.

Then again this IS HD and there are a couple of HD trailers on the disc as well.
But really wow, i see why the Advent Children Complete (Japanese version) is so expensive now. Most wii games are in the 500mb range o.0

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sack_boi - 224 days 10 hours ago

Lost Odyssey was 27gigs and I heard FFXIII was going to be on two Bluray discs, so this is not surprising.

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Dirty Beaver - 224 days 10 hours ago

@ timmyrulz

SE has been developing this game for god knows how long. They practically have no choice but to not include a mandatory install for the ps3.

If they do, they know they will be a laughing stock. With the amount of time it has taken them to release the damn game you would think they would redeem themselves from the failures they have portrayed.

It's nearly 2.5 years in the ps3's cycle and frankly any dev that releases a game and has mandatory installs all over it is weak and pathetic in my honest opinion.

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FamilyGuy - 224 days 9 hours ago

This also makes one more thing quite apparent and OFFICIAL, we won't be seeing this download able on the Jap or any other PSN (or 360) store

Even without the trailers this demo would need a cut down version to at least 1.5Gb to ever end up on a console store for free download. though id buy the demo if i could.

I wonder how much they'll go for on ebay i heard it on a separate disc than the blu-ray movie (FF:AV) so they're guaranteed to be sold. (if thats true)

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DeathroW22 - 224 days 9 hours ago

sack_boi, i doubt it'll be over 50gb..

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cLiCK_sLiCK9 - 224 days 9 hours ago

wow...
It scares me that FF13 developers might have to cut corners to get this game up and going on the 360.

Dont hold this against me.. but wasnt it announced (or rumored) that some content on demo might not see the light on the retail version?

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Rock Bottom - 224 days 9 hours ago

Happy news for some, disastrous news for others.

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Insomnia_84 - 224 days 9 hours ago

Something tells me We will get a downgraded version that will look the same on 360 and PS3 when it hits the US, a different version to the Japanese one.

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FamilyGuy - 224 days 9 hours ago

Your BS claim is debunk.

If they did a good job there will be NO install whatsoever as we've seen already that they're "stream loading" which is what is supposed to take away ALL loads times according to PS3s devs which make game installs COMPLETELY unnecessary.

They said ages ago it would have stream loading (im not gonna look it up for ya) and the demo already proves this as the battle transitions are like a second long (dvd loading isnt even that fast) and CGI movies too.

This pretty much GUARANTEES no mandatory game install.

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All-3 - 224 days 9 hours ago

Obviously --> somebody doesn't know WHY PS3 games require installs in the firs place.

Perhaps one of you INFORMED gamers can fill him/her in?

Supposedly... the average age range of PS3 owners is somewhere between the mid-twenties and mid-thirties <-- you can really tell by the usual comments left in N4G posts can't you? LOL...

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FamilyGuy - 224 days 9 hours ago

All-3 You've confused me. the installs are to quicken loading times on the ps3 because blu-rray disc are read slower than dvds (newer tech an all that) The compression on 360 games cause longer loading times than if left uncompressed. His claim of lowering the quality of the image(?) or audio(?)is wrong. Is that what you meant?

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Shadow Flare - 224 days 9 hours ago

Uncharted 1 has zero installs, zero load times and is still one of the best games graphically to date.

Response?

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Dragun619 - 224 days 8 hours ago

@Timmy
Well, For One, Final Fantasy XIII lead platform is PS3

And Two I'm sure if there is an install, you could just install it and play the game with no hassle in between such as Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, or Bioshock Which the Disc reads at a good constant rate along with Data streamed from the Hard drive thus delivering the best experience for the player. Its the reason why there's a Hard drive And evidently, Many developers have chosen to take advantage of it.

Either that or it'll won't have an install or not as big such as COD4, R1,R2, Uncharted and Killzone 2
Or as FamliyGuy has stated it will be Steam Loaded as shown in the demo which ran smooth.

Also wouldn't take longer to load on DVD due of the heavy compression. Its like comparing a crumpled paper then uncrumpling it to taking a piece of the paper (install) then connecting it to a bigger paper (Blu Ray) thus resulting a Clear Paper (better quality) as it was not Crumpled (compressed). Which for instance Mass Effect as I'm sure it would of ran better if it were not for the compression.

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Immortal Kaim - 224 days 8 hours ago

I notice the interest in Square-Enix is back again from PS3 owners, hopefully because they realise FFXIII is looking to be a great addition to the franchise. Unfortunately the interest seems to be more focused on the supposed 'gimped' 360 version...

Can I possibly pose the question, why does it matter if the 360 version is on 5 or even 10 disks, you all seem to be buying the PS3 version?

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morganfell - 224 days 8 hours ago

All-3, you are the one that fails to understand game installs. Two of the best looking PS3 titles, Killzone 2 and Uncharted have no installs. Installs have nothing to do with NECESSARY space requirements. Instead the need arises form programmers lacking the experience to otherwise archive the material.

Your supposed superiority act concerning the implied greater age of 360 owners is a joke. Anyone that is a dual console owner knows the truth of this.

You are simply smarting over the truth of the demo size.

One of several things will happen. Inevitably the size of the demo will be reduced by a small small amount once the game is complete. This is due to refinement in the actual game.

In the end though we are staring at the possibility the 360 version will require quite a large number of discs. This will have an impact in either the game costing more than some gamers would like or Microsoft pays out of pocket. Will they increase the cost of the PS3 version to bring the two versions in line pricewise? Likely not.

In the event Microsoft bears the brunt of the costs it will be one more chunk of money Microsoft has thrown down the toilet in vain. Either way they will have worked to squeeze the game onto the fewest number of disks possible. This will mean lower res textures and much poorer sound.

Microsoft may also have paid Square enough money to reduce the size of the final game to two discs. PS3 owners can shake their heads with this knowledge. Real gamers can also be disgusted that Microsoft will have paid money to ruin a game for everyone. Sad really.

So you see my inexperienced fellow poster, there is a reason for PS3 owners to be concerned as they do have a stake in the gimped PS3 version.

Regardless PS3 owners have Versus en route.

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Why o why - 224 days 8 hours ago

too easy.... This is N4G. The same reason people care about disk numbers is the same reason people care about mandatory installs. this is not utopia 4 gamers.

morganfell and others

Im not falling into 'their' trap. When 'they' get the chance to install to improve performance 'they' bloody well do, no questions. Lets not act like installs are a bad thing. This is next gen and we dont need 50 devs to tell us that the option to use a HDD is an advantage. Eff em. If 'they' had it too it would be a non issue or it would be something stupid like 'the ps3 install for x game is 4.5 seconds longer than the 360's' accompanied with eurogamer speed comparison charts. I like installs. There is also the fact that installs can be used to vastly improve games if done correctly.

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Immortal Kaim - 224 days 8 hours ago

You should know better than anyone that spreading misinformation and anti-MS propaganda isn't beneficial to anyone, your comments have more clout around here than you realise.

"Microsoft may also have paid Square enough money to reduce the size of the final game to two discs. PS3 owners can shake their heads with this knowledge. Real gamers can also be disgusted that Microsoft will have paid money to ruin a game for everyone. Sad really."

Neither of us knows what really happened behind closed doors between MS and Square-Enix, inferring that they have comprised the quality of the game is misleading.

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morganfell - 224 days 8 hours ago

Who is spreading misinformation? I am postulating. Did you not notice the words, "Microsoft may have..."?

If one pauses to think about it the possibility is highly likely. After all they have shown a tendency to do exactly what I theorize.

BTW, Famitsu agrees with me.

So no, I will not stop will my supported proposals. If Microsoft comes away from such posted hunches looking like they are evil or doing a disservice to the gamer then one can only say, "It is about time they are viewed in the naked light of day and seen for the anti-gaming force they so often are have demonstrated themselves to be."

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cLiCK_sLiCK9 - 224 days 8 hours ago

I agree. Its almost like coakblocking.
But in the end, we will never know (graphically) how these multiplatform games would've turn out to be if they still remained exclusives.

Imagine GTA4 being an exclusive? 25-50 gig open-world game? Unimaginable' right?
Just keep in mind that developers develop games while knowing their console's limits. Rockstar didnt make GTA4 without knowing their limitations. You guys have to understand that Rockstar didn't finish developing GTA4 only to find out its total size was around 8 gigs...
Same goes for all multiplatform developers. Including Square-enix.

But like I said. We will never know....=[

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Immortal Kaim - 224 days 7 hours ago

Well your first sentence could be considered you 'postulating', though your following statements.

"...PS3 owners can shake their heads with this knowledge. Real gamers can also be disgusted that Microsoft will have paid money to ruin a game for everyone. Sad really."

Ruined for everyone? I could have sworn one of the most beloved franchises will now reach out to more people who may not have had the chance to experience it?

Semantics aside, I will be getting the game on the PS3, not because I feel one version may be 'superior', but because I own 7-12 on the playstation platforms and strangely feel I should continue the trend with the next iteration.

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morganfell - 224 days 7 hours ago

No one of common sense can sit there and say the MS intervention hasn't affected PS3 owners in a negative manner. And while you are praising MS for that you can praise them for all the other franchises they 'freed'.

You sound like one of the targets in Assassins Creed that were 'freeing' the people. And your argument in favor of Microsoft's action makes as much sense.

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Immortal Kaim - 224 days 7 hours ago

And you're the Assassin right? The one who was duped by his superiors... :) jk.

So I'm supporting MS by not agreeing with your comments? You surprise me Morgan, as someone who definitely knows how to hold a conversation and articulates himself fairly well, you are so one-sided it is disheartening.

I think your attitude is inherently selfish, why does it matter if 360 owners get to play it? As everyone likes to claim, the game is 'built from the ground up' for PS3, so according to many, the PS3 will be getting the 'superior' version.

So let it be, more people will be playing the game, I'm sure someone playing it on the 360 won't affect your enjoyment of the game.

Anyway I'm off to bed, happy to continue the conversation tomorrow. Or you can PM me if you like, hopefully I can instil some 'open-mindedness' in that cold, dark heart of yours ;) another joke yes...

btw I enjoyed the conversation without the usual 'fanboy flinging comments' most people resort to on N4G.

Cheers

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sirbigam - 224 days 6 hours ago

This game looks real suspect, but I thing I'm more interested in Final Fantasy XIII Verses instead.

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morganfell - 224 days 6 hours ago

No. The only people I was deceived by were Microsoft. That was as I was a launch buyer and number 1 on the list at my local Gamestop inexplicably even beating the manager onto the reservation queue.

And as in the game I soon learned who the king of deception was and I divested myself in any belief that Microsoft was out to determine the gamer.

Microsoft: "We will win because we will be first to market"

Sony: "We will win because we will offer a superior experience on a superior machine."

My attitude is anything but selfish as I want the best possible experience for gamers. Not the one most available at any cost to the experience itself. There is a point where attempting to be cheap merely cheapens the experience rather than the cost.

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FlameBaitGod - 224 days 5 hours ago

Well its obvs that games have have had to be down graded thx to the 360, not cus i say it but developers are saying, Google it. If GTA4 had stayed on the PS it would have been bigger, PS owners would have been better games if it wasn't for MS's console, but w/e right. When MS made the contract with SE they knew they would have to make games to fit their console, that's only obvs. MS wouldn't allow SE do the same game on the PS3 looking way better cus they knew that people wouldn't buy it, that's y its safe to say that MS payed A LOT for that game to be on the 360 with the same graphics as the PS3

MOD Edit:

For future reference, the use of the words SDF or M$ with the dollar sign within a comment will be deleted, if you continue to use M$ or $ony etc then you may recieve a banning, this goes for everyone.

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Kassanova07 - 224 days 5 hours ago

Why do ppl hate installs so bad? If it makes the game run better then I'm all for it. On topic, the older I get the less interest I have in FF. End of Eternity looks more appealing atm.

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gaffyh - 224 days 5 hours ago

@1.33 - I agree dude, I always install even if it is optional on PS3. On 360 I don't install anything because I only got a 20GB HDD, and only 7 GB is left on it :(

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meepmoopmeep - 224 days 5 hours ago

Dead Space and Eternal Sonata have no installs
and reviews even said they load faster than the 360 ones.

weird eh?

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lowcarb - 224 days 5 hours ago

Shadowflare: UC was knocked off the map the day Geow2 stepped on the scene. Also it didn't look better than part one, but part one of gears didn't look better than uc1 either. Stop the fud bud!

edit 1.31 morganfell: great post

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All-3 - 224 days 5 hours ago

That's right - the PS3 blu-ray --> DRIVE is slower than the DVD drive in the Xbox 360. That's a FACT.

Any informed person KNOWS why there are mandatory installs for PS3 games... and WHY they are required.

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--> The compression on 360 games cause longer loading times than if left uncompressed.

The compression techniques are so good these days that in MANY instances --> the difference between loading times by streaming from a hard drive ie with many PS3 games --> is NOT dramatically faster vs the Xbox 360 versions loading times from compressed game data off the DVD-9 discs.

--> His claim of lowering the quality of the image(?) or audio(?)is wrong. Is that what you meant?

The difference between uncompressed video is NOT as dramatic as many seem to claim --> BESIDES <-- even PS3 games utilize COMPRESSION --> even with up to 50GBs of disc space available.

ALSO - to all those screaming about the blu-ray capacity advantage... MORE disc capacity hasn't resulted in a general trend towards --> LONGER in-game singleplayer PS3 gameplay, has it?

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All-3 - 224 days 4 hours ago

Whether or not it is the fault of so-called --> inexperienced programmers ISN'T the point.

The FACT remains that mandatory installs are a requirement of MANY PS3 games - YES or NO?

Now tell everyone WHY those games require mandatory installs when those games have up to 50GBs of blu-ray disc space available to them.... go ahead - TELL US... I'll wait.

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The so-called AGE demographic of PS3 owners isn't MY findings... go look it up.

BTW - I own ALL THREE systems. The PS3-360 and Wii.

I couldn't care less about the size of the demo... READ what I was responding to, and shut up!

--> This will mean lower res textures and much poorer sound.

How much lower resolution textures?

How much poorer sound? Does it REALLY matter, when most people DO NOT have any receiver that can process and out put lossless audio. How many STILL don't even have HDTVs????????

--> Microsoft may also have paid Square enough money to reduce the size of the final game to two discs. PS3 owners can shake their heads with this knowledge. Real gamers can also be disgusted that Microsoft will have paid money to ruin a game for everyone. Sad really.

What's SAD is that you make up scenarios and then react to them like they are facts --> when they ARE NOT - LOL!

Carry on...

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morganfell - 224 days 4 hours ago

Best looking title on any platform with an expansive multiplayer. No install required. That statement alone leaves you with no leg to stand on stubby.

Game, set, match.

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Slime - 224 days 3 hours ago

Everyone should just ignore morganfell!

His words are poison, nothing he says can be considered honest or intelligent. The only reason he has got this far is because he is too subtle for N4G's mods to notice.

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morganfell - 224 days 3 hours ago

^^^^ Says the poster that wades into a PS3 thread...

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AAACE5 - 224 days 2 hours ago

I hope Playstation fans (and fanboys) are happy to know that SE do not plan to skimp...GIMP... their version of the game! FFXIII should be exactly what they promised.

But I know some fanboy somewhere is still looking for something to say. Either they will say the Ps3 version will be gimped cause of 360! Or the 360 version will be downgraded!

Pitiful fools... Just be happy the game is coming out!

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thesummerofgeorge - 224 days ago

I'm tempted to start learning Japanese... Things would be so much simpler if I spoke fluent Japanese.

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evrfighter - 223 days 23 hours ago

I said it before and reading morganfell's comments here I'll say it again.

You seemed to be one of the few posters here at n4g that was not blinded by the goggles. As of late you've not only been blinded by them but have now become somewhat of a propaganda machine.

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GUNS N SWORDS - 223 days 23 hours ago

"Final Fantasy XIII Demo consumes 5.09GB of space"

"Thats certainly a lot for a demo. Makes you wonder how many discs they 360 version will need"

yeah, but also ps3 and 360 don't use the same file system (along with the fact that the demo has some key features that are geared for ps3 such as 7.1 HD audio and 1080p multimedia)

a small yet good example would be ps3's demo version of bioshock, it was a little short of 2 gbs, whereas 360's version was more less 1 gb.

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morganfell - 223 days 22 hours ago

Propaganda? No.

Who needs propaganda. I have the truth and real facts on my side.

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DaTruth - 223 days 22 hours ago

Being one of the people who own a great surround sound system(2 actually) and the fact that it's worth $3500, I would be quite upset with downgraded sound. The fact that PS3 doesn't have analog outputs also upsets me(didn't know till I bought it for cheap, from some guy on the corner, but I happened to have an attachment from my surround sound headphones).

@Morganfell: You have waded over into the one-sided category, but nothing you've said is false and you put it in a way that makes you sound like a university professor. It would be almost impossible to sound intelligent, if you were spreading fud.

edit:Just noticed that you can go over all his posts with a fine toothed comb and not find a single "HA", "LMFAO" or LOL. No fanboy crap whatsoever. How refreshing!

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LinuxGuru - 223 days 22 hours ago

lol analog per-channel outputs? It's the 21st century, bro! Surely you can afford an HDMI-equipped amplifier to match your top-dollar sound system!

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cmrbe - 223 days 21 hours ago

people still don't get the concept of multiple consoles.

This is a classic case of why there should be multiple consoles and exclusives.

@I.K. I get your point in that as many gamers should be able to experience this game, true BUT they should buy the PS3 to play it if they want to play it. Same with people that want to play Halo or Gears should buy the x360 if they want to play it.

@ALL-3. This is the of biggest difference between MS and Sony as well as their fans. Just like Crazy Ken, most PS fans don't want any compromise in quality of the gameing expereince. Most PS fans want the best of the best the dev could possibly deliver and not some compromise version gimped so that everyone would be able to play it which basically penalize those with HD def setups. From reading Morgans post this is where he was comming from and i whole heartly agree. Look, even if alot of people don't have HDTV's yet dosent mean that there aren't people with 7.1 surround sound and HDTV's. What about them?.

I say let devs that want to push the boundries in true HD gaming do that on the PS3 as thats where the PS3 strength lies. Similar to what GG, ND and Kojima did. Let the devs develop the best gameing experience they could possibly do and let the users decide weather they want to experience the best way they could experience it by using a 7.1 surround sound with a HDTV or just go SD if they can't be bothered or afford to. Its about choice and the ability to experience the best possible gaming experience currrent tech could muster.

look the opposite of what i just talked about means there will be no innovation and the games will be the same accross the board which will justify only one console. Do we really want that?.

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PirateThom - 224 days 10 hours ago

Even if we take that the game is going to reuse a lot of assets, I honestly can't see it being less than 4 discs without serious compression on the textures, audio and FMV.

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timmyrulz - 224 days 10 hours ago

And those with 20 gig hard drives on their ps3 will be fcuked

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pwnsause - 224 days 10 hours ago

and all those 20gb hard drives get upgraded without a problem for cheap, whats your point? if it comes with an install, it will be below 5gb, just like MGS4.

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Dirty Beaver - 224 days 10 hours ago

As a smart and well informed consumer i know what version i'm getting. What about the rest of you sheep?

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cmrbe - 224 days 10 hours ago

It's ok though since you guys are ok with swapping discs. Have fun storing and swapping 5 disc lol!.

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Dirty Beaver - 224 days 9 hours ago

@ timmy

Are you like twelve or something kid. It's like you continuously ask for a beating and plead to get owned lol. I'd be quite if i where you.

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Sir Ken_Kutaragi - 224 days 9 hours ago

The '25 disc' version of 'Final Fantasy XIII' for the 'ChatBox 360' on Amazon.com??? ;-D

+ I'm going to get a Hernia carrying that Version of 'FF XIII' for the 'ChatBox 360' Game Home!!! ;-D

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cmrbe - 224 days 8 hours ago

To make things worse for the xbots the x360 is know to scratch disc. If one of those multiple disc is scratch your basically fuvked lol!.

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Sir Ken_Kutaragi - 224 days 8 hours ago

It's 50 Discs(ChatBox 360 Version)??? Anyone want to help me carry it Home??? ;-D

@cmrbe ;) Oh yeah i forgot about that. I was to worried about getting RRoD before inserting Disc 32!!! ;-D

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PirateThom - 224 days 10 hours ago

And you know there will be an install because...?

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PirateThom - 224 days 10 hours ago

Proof? None?

Right, bye.

Edit: New word to learn: http://dictionary.reference...

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cmrbe - 224 days 10 hours ago

you win the most delusional xbot award.

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Zermeno_90 - 224 days 9 hours ago

good luck finding which disc goes first lol

@caffman
it's a joke, no need to stuff DVD's up your ass

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Dragun619 - 224 days 9 hours ago

Well, for one Final Fantasy XIII lead platform is PS3
And Two I'm sure if there is an install, you could just install it and play the game with no hassle in between such as Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4, or Bioshock Which the Disc reads at a good constant rate along with Data streamed from the Hard drive thus delivering the best experience for the player. Its the reason why there's a Hard drive And evidently, Many developers have chosen to take advantage of it.

Either that or it'll won't have an install or not as big such as COD4, R1,R2, and Killzone 2

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caffman - 224 days 9 hours ago

you tend to start with the disc with a big number 1 on it. Heres a site that may help you
http://funschool.kaboose.co...

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FamilyGuy - 224 days 9 hours ago

It was said AGES ago that the loading in this game would be steamed and we have already seen it at work in the demo. the battle transitions and cut scene transitions are seamless

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heyheyhey - 224 days 9 hours ago

installs on PS3 have been becoming a rarity as of late with streaming techniques of the BD getting better..

what makes you so sure the PS3 version will have an install?

we know for certain the 360 version will be on multiple disks... if an ickle demo takes up 5 gigs

360 fanboys on complete BS mode

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ULTIMATE_REVENGE - 224 days 6 hours ago

my guess is the 360 version will have about 2 to about....ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 202309309393834838438403838233 2748748723472387432873287732878 7486435687475734864657846487583 4774675708594859809576675487464 5643764593 discs, yeah thats about right

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caffman - 224 days 5 hours ago

well if you are into stuffing DVDs up your ass then fair play to you. Not my cup of tea but it takes all sorts to make a world

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snake-OO - 224 days ago

the first install for metal gear was 8 min , the rest were 2-3 min dumb ass

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dash-- - 223 days 23 hours ago

Most multiplat games were made on xbox first so yeah they look and ran slightly better. But FF13 is made of on the PS3 first then it will be ported over to the xbox.

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PirateThom - 224 days 9 hours ago

A. Valkyria Chronicles, White Knight Chronicles, Street Fighter IV
B. I can name loads, in fact, I OWN SOME!!!?!!?!
C. Oh, well, that's definitely proof... :-/ I predict the 360 version will be on about 30 discs because the game is so big

Now, I'm not saying there won't be an install, but to claim there will be one, without any proof is ridiculous.

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cmrbe - 224 days 9 hours ago

So because a game is going to be at least 25 gigs it will require a mandatory install on the PS3 with blu-ray and no install for x360 with a DVD drive?.

The white engien was develooped with the Ps3 in mind. Even if there is an install. I really don't mind. After what i have seen with MGS4. I welcome installs anyday.

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II Necroplasm II - 224 days 9 hours ago

My guess would be 5 disk on the 360 version.

But I can tell you one thing, there is no way FF13 will sell more on the 360 because of japan for one thing.

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FamilyGuy - 224 days 9 hours ago

"B. Its multiplatform, there are very few if any games that are multiplatform with no intstall "

This games was built on the PS3 from the ground up/start so this multiplatform argument is null. Not to mention most installs on the PS3 are NOT mandatory. They're mostly optional to speed loading times.

If they did a good job there will be NO install whatsoever as we've seen already that they're "stream loading" which is what is supposed to take away ALL loads times according to PS3s devs which make game installs COMPLETELY unnecessary.

As a matter of FACT I just PROVED there will be NO large or even somewhat large install for this game.

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heyheyhey - 224 days 9 hours ago

only about 5-10% of PS3's library has an install of any sort... even fewer have the 5 gig one

Fallout 3 and White Knight Chronicles don't have an isntall.. why does FF13 necessarily need to have one?

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Wiimaniac - 224 days 4 hours ago

I can't believe these delusional sony fanboys are calling delusional to other person just because he's stating the true. Seriously, I have 12 PS3 games and all of them require mandatory install.

There's even someone saying that only 5% to 10% require installs? That's BS because only like 5% to 10% are the ones that don't require an install. And ALL of the games that have optional install are slow as F@%$ if you don't install them.

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snake-OO - 224 days ago

i will take install over disc swapping, i think any1 with the right mind would.

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Narutone66 - 224 days 5 hours ago

It will probably sell more on the 360, because they will have to buy 3 or more copies of the game.

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FamilyGuy - 224 days 8 hours ago

You just made me realize how lazy I am.

I LITERALLY play SCIV almost exclusively because I hate to get up and swap disc. I havn't watched a blu-ray movie in months even though i still buy them. I just watch downloaded movies. Its as if:
Getting up
removing disc
grabbing proper case from shelf
placing disc in proper case
placing proper case back on shelf
grabbing new case from shelf
removing game/movie from new case
placing new movie/game in machine
placing empty new case back on shelf
and FINALLY sitting back down

is too much work for me.

LMMFAO
Im so f*cking lazy, but im organized. Dont wanna misplace a disc or leave it around to be stepped on or anything.

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cmrbe - 224 days 8 hours ago

is last gen. umm.. but then again the x360 is last gen lol!.

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-x.Red.x- - 224 days 6 hours ago

that's better then inserting disk 5

try not to lose them
RoFL

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Narutone66 - 224 days 4 hours ago

You might end up buying 3 or more copies of the game.

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Shane Kim - 224 days 4 hours ago

I rather have the game install once than have to change disks all the time since this is more or less a free roaming game or whatever its called. Imagine you want to travel from one city to another...change disk please.

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lokiroo420 - 223 days 22 hours ago

playinf ff13 on 360: "please insert disc 3", flash flash flash,warranty?

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bob saget remix - 224 days 6 hours ago

It just makes everything better.

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