World's first GTA IV review "removed at the advice of legal counsel"

Following the posting of what claimed to be the world's first GTA IV review yesterday, all that's now left of the piece is a smoking hole and the rather curt message, "This site has been removed at the advice of legal council," VG247 reports.

[destroyah]

Yeah because we didn't already know this.

[Phil Harrison Mklll]

I just want to play it really:P
This is getting silly

[JsonHenry]

I have a hard time believing this review was legit when I read it the first time.

[sonarus]

yea the review sounded like a load of crap but rockstar hasn't discredited it...yet

[xhi4]

then thank god I'm getting the ps3 version.

But who knows if it's fake or real, for all we know the guy could really be Barney the lovable singable purple dinosaur.

for those that couldn't read that review, here you go

http://home.comcast.net/~in...

Is it real? Decide for yourselves....

@ Below, yeah, honestly, I don't think there will be much difference, except honestly I think Rockstar will (i mean they have been helped by Sony with the optimisation as told by Jermea Barrea VP of Rockstar in PSM3), they'd obviously take advantage of the PS3's SPU's and hard drive, I can definitely see subtle differences like more on screen in the ps3 version and better colour creation, more stable framerate etc. because of all the work the SPU's can do in the background with the hard drive.

But yeah who knows.

EDIT no. 2 - I just finished reading through the 'review', the same applies as I previously mentioned, but 9.3????? You've got to be kidding me, BIOSHOCK got 10's easily, San Andreas got 9.8's, 10's etc. no way GTA IV is getting less than 9.8 in my book. But i haven't played it.....so i can't really be the one to say.

ANYWAYY its nearly the 29th only 3 more weeks (YAY) so we'll know all soon........and in a few weeks we'll all (well us lucky few with next gen systems) be looking back and going either oh yeah he was right or oh what a d1ckhead lol

either way, WOOHOO THE WAITS ALMOST OVER!

[InMyOpinion]

I found it highly doubtful that, as he wrote, the PS3 version would have split-screen modes and the 360 wouldn't, because it couldn't handle it technically. I have read many reports that have stated that the 360 version is one week ahead in development, and that both versions will have the same features. Add to that the fact that almost all previews have been made of the 360 version. The GamesRadar dude who was the first in the world to finish the game did it on the 360.

He could be telling the truth of course, but he wasn't reviewing the final build, which leaves us unknowing of what to expect really.

I'm just saying, I'll be waiting for proper reviews of this game.

[NO_PUDding]

That's not actually true.

For exmaple Geoff Keighley (a major games industry individual) has only seen it running on the PS3. And you don't know for sure that the guy who completed it, completed it on an Xbox.

I assume he did too, but there will have been otehr members of the press, playing it on PS3's for their respective magazines.

And as for the Split screen, Gamestop had this in thier description as only on the PS3 version. Althoguh it's since been changed/corrected. Maybe that's bombshell Microsoft or Rockstar don't want anyone else to know till release or it was a major typo.

[InMyOpinion]

The GamesRadar dude was reviewing the game for Xbox 360 World, so I assumed he was reviewing the 360 version =)

http://www.gamesradar.com/f...

I can't argue with wether Geoff has only played it on the PS3 or not, or what version other magazines have gotten their hands-on so to speak =)

In any case, I don't think color or framerate differences are gonna stop anyone from buying either version.

[uie4rhig]

lol 3 weeks :D 8-) that means it is being shipped to the stores already... its amazing lol

http://zeryl.net/iv/ <<< Countdown to GTA IV Launch :D

[TheMART]

That guy has a strange kind of reviewing there:

"I can't conclude one way or the other why the split-screen mode was not available on 360, but I assume by the drop in on-screen objects on the PS3 that the 360 just couldn't handle it. If you own a 360, don't worry. You have Xbox Live…so you're set."

Uhm... He previewed and didn't review, because he was testing not the final version of the game but earlier builds. So he did 'assume' something on top of a preview version.

Sounds like someone was trying to get attention for a website. The battle begins soonish, with real reviews and comparisons coming in. The end of April is almost here...

[yanikins111]

Crawl back in your hole

[TheMART]

If your mind can't understand that's just a strange kind of PS3 fanboylike comment, not reviewing the final version and so on

You should crawl back in that Buttstation 3 hole.

[Phil Harrison Mklll]

The First GTA IV Review

With PS3 & Xbox comparisons:

The PS3 has a more relaxed color pallet, but this gives everything a more realistic look. If you don't like the realistic look, and you have a HDMI connection, you can fiddle with your PS3 display settings and get it looking much more saturated. The textures are just as sharp as the 360 version, and there's little to no pop-in or screen tearing. The PS3 takes longer to load than the 360, but I took several different head counts in game at different locations, and I always found the PS3 to be more populated than the 360. This could be attributed to the dynamic nature of the world, but it's hard to tell. Either way, the difference was never more than five to seven pedestrians or three to four cars—it's not really much of an advantage.

The 360 is bright. Boy is it bright. Based on discussion history, this one will be claimed to look better, but it'll really be preference. The texture quality is the same on both systems, but the 360 has a more cartoon-like look. This isn't a bad thing. It just depends on preference. I'd compare the difference to that of Oblivion on each system. The 360 also suffers from some frame rate drops that are almost non-existent on the PS3. Installing the 360 version on your system's hard drive, however, will bring performance almost up to par with the PS3.

I know, you want details, but all I can confirm is split-screen on PS3 only. I was alone, so I didn't actually get to have any matches, but I could tell that the split-screen worked really well. There was a significant decrease in the amount of traffic and pedestrians, but it didn't ruin anything. This is understandable. Rendering two instances of Liberty City is a chore for any machine. I can't conclude one way or the other why the split-screen mode was not available on 360, but I assume by the drop in on-screen objects on the PS3 that the 360 just couldn't handle it. If you own a 360, don't worry. You have Xbox Live…so you're set.

[TheMART]

But...

It's not a review, but a preview

"This review is based on early previews of the game. It may or may not reflect the final retail version, available 4/29/08."

So enjoy a nonsense written article from God who knows what kind of dork on the net, till the end of April when EDGE, 1UP and whatever trusted source has reviewed and compared it.

I've heard to many games that were said to have the best version on the PS3 weeks before the reviews and then... after the reviews suddenly the PS3 version sucked donkey balls. So don't get your hopes up to high there dude

[THC CELL]

Mart everything u say is a fail why bother u no ps3 has 2008 and 9
I no u have a ps3 cause u no hell of a lot of BS how can u judge something u never played Ya just a d*ck really man
if you go by word of mouth and stupid fanboys like a self u are retarded
i have met so many player in my live that was huge fans of x box and converted to ps3 fans. X box has Nothing Gears 2 fable then what man
We have games Like La noir,Getaway coming
Resistence 2,X box is dead

Whatever Rockster says the RAGE Engine and it Devlopment tools are built in and around the PS3, but background rendering is important in games like GTA and there the PS3 has more processing power so ultimalty more Objects and Actions around the city.

[TheMART]

haha go write proper English and no weird facked up slang

Second

For every XBOX fan that you know that would have converted to PS3 I know 10 if not more PS2 former fans that converted to the 360.

Really. I don't know many XBOX fans or 360 owners that totally converted to the PS3. Some might have bought it along their 360, but Playstation fans did convert a lot more to the 360 then the other way around for sure.

Back to the facts: So you're ignoring the straight fact that this guy didn't review the final game, but based his 'review' on several previews of old builds of the game. If you actually did that and didn't just suck the whole story out of Kaz's d!ck?

I don't see any base of an actual review in this text. That's reality. That's why I am saying wait untill the reviews will come in. That is something PS3 fans should do also. Instead of all the hype before a game and then get dissapointed because they didn't get the best version of the game, but the 360 did.

It is always known the 360 version was further ahead and all the demos that have been run in public were running on 360 hardware. It is designed with the 360 first in mind. Most signs point to those games (at least 95%) that run better on the 360. And those few ones that have been designed with the PS3 in mind mostly are about equal, for example Burnout Paradise.

Thus we can say: this article is preview of early builds or totally made up, combined with the game designed with 360 first in mind, we'll have to see the comparisons at the end of April.

[THC CELL]

Mart for your fat head i am not english

X BOX is dead mate
had a good run put up with it

X box is Very easy to develope for
yes ps3 is a challange
But exclusive games are a hell of a lot better on ps3 x box 360 other hand Looks OK but the better they look the shorter they are

[heyheyhey]

MART you pu$$y, you wont agree to my bet

whats the matter? hard to admit you were wrong? no? put your money where your mouth is

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 4]

Someone is P*ssed off on this!!! ;-D

[Kaz Hirai]

What's the matter, SIMPLETON?
Did your Xbox 360 "console" break? Or did it set you on fire? Or are you just upset about your DESPICABLE 2008 "line-up"?
Whatever the reason, King Kaz will now laugh in your face:

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[fanboyarebitches]

look at the sony bots getting all hyped lmfao...check kotaku , destructoid and ign theres a blog in there about the FAKE review i dont have a link i dont know how it works but they way the sony bots acted was crazy yesterday you guiys should be locked up people like
"dora the explorer" "heyheyhey" "sirken" "the cell" all acted like animals on the ps3 forums laughing at the 360 owners then 10 minutes later some guy "prostate123212" provided a link to the blog confirming the review was fake and then for some reason n4g deleted it?
anyways all you sony fanboys didnt even reply and acted like it didnt exist this is sad and pathetic even when legit people provide proof that the review was fake they deny it cause there so desperate for a good game its sad DONT REPLY ILL BE OUTSIDE lmfao its funny ps3 have so much FREE time cause they have no games to play DONT REPLY I HAVE FRIENDS UNLIKE YOU

[liquidsnake]

I really don't give a crap wich one is better. Mart, you're saying that this is a preview of an early build. Still, the Ps3 version of the game has no framedrops, realistic colours...well you know the list. This can only mean that the final build will be better then what it allready is. So please get lost.

[TurdStationPee]

Mart, you idiot. Everyone knows you're not supposed to review final versions of games. What kind of fanboy are you?

[Official General]

Man you are funny, you really know how to agitate those 360 guys! LOL

[omni_atlas]

I wasn't sure of the authenticity of the article either after the author claimed to put spoilers *AFTER* he reaches 500,000+ hits. Seems like someone looking for attention. If you go to the link of the article theres still a counter on the page at the end of "This site has been removed at the advice of legal council." (View the source file).

[MrBii]

For those of you who unfortunately did not had the chance to read the article before the site was taken off.

- PS3 version more realistic colors. Vibrant colors available by tweaking with color settings.
- 360 version is bright and gloomy. Gloom like no tomorrow.
- 360 version looks cartoony.
- PS3 version has more pedestrians and cars and much more vibrant city.
- 360 version has jaggies and suffers from framerate problems.
- 360 version has "pop ups". I personally would like to welcome 360 players to 1996.
- controls much more suited for the PS3 controller.
- PS3 has splitscreen and running awesome.
- 360 cant handle splitscreen.

GTA4 rated 9.3 out of 10.

Conclusion: PS3 version > 360 version.

[Neurotoxin]

Yeah that sum`s it up nicely.

Except what your summing up is most probably a Fanboy article similar to the one that was posting about the 360 version about a week ago.;.... funny thing was that wasn`t taken down by Rockstar legal team. Maybe there is some truth to what the guy wrote? Regardless we`ll see when the reviews start rolling in, not long now at all :).

[Rageanitus]

What hapened to all those comments months ago. where they said the xbox 360 version was playable yet the ps3 was not.

and why would they remove a review whether it be fake or real... I suspect money handling is inovled.

Gamers.... prepare to have overbloated scores like halo 3.

[Varsarus]

I don't think it was taken of. I think he waiting for his site to reach 500,000 hits then he'll put more detail into a spoilers section or something.

[uie4rhig]

@4.1
erm are you serious? reviews? nobody will be reading any reviews lol, every one will be playing the game and not caring about anything, i have got the feeling that this is gonna be worse that the Halo 3 launch lol
i am still wondering how much it will sell.. (i think it will either out sell halo 3 or it will be near Halo 3!! but i still can't wait.. 22 days left 8-)

[jessupj]

Yeah that definitely sounds fake... definitely sounds like a fanboy to me. It can't be real because rockstar have already said that 'both versions are pretty much identical'.

[Fallen_Angel]

I also said that the 360 frame rate issues could be fix by install it on the HDD. WTF when has any game been able to be install on a 360. If fact MS doesnt allow it. The review is a FAKE and proven by the fact that it was removed. Seriously go back to reading SDF already.

[LightningPS3]

But what about that crap article joking about the PS3 having an 85 minute install?

I guess paybacks a b*tch, huh?

Does anyone else find it kinda convenient how N4G mods never seem to catch those articles till they reach 100 or 200 comments. Then they safely dump it in the failed approval section. But not till after it did it's dirty work and that's to start a flamewar.

[MrBii]

It seems that the PS3 version install takes 10 min.

360 version...well most of you dont even have a HDD so Ill just leave it at LOL.

LOL.

[Mc Fadge]

Came from a review from SarcasticGamer... On a friday. This 'review' was meant to be humourous. If you read the entire review you would've realised it was fake. That's not to say this isn't fake or true, just saying that the 85 minute install is known to be fake and satirical in nature

[InMyOpinion]

How about this one?

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[Gam71]

360 version...well most of you dont even have a HDD so Ill just leave it at LOL.

Most do have a hard drive or do you believe out of the 19mil sold 9.5 have been the arcade model?

lol at the balONY I just read

[fermcr]

Waiting for the PC version :)

[RJ2000]

haha loser

[fermcr]

@RJ2000

haha MORON alert

[uie4rhig]

hmm if they released the PC version with the PS360 version, it would sell billions instead of millions, i think it would easily get to 25m if they released the PC version aswel on 29th!!

a few friends are gonna wait for the pc version even though its not sure if its coming (tho i am sure it is coz all gta games have been on pc aswel after all)

[Pika-pie]

Ive never seen so many 360 fans hearts break. They are so desperate for this game to be better on the 360 its crazy.

Personally I couldnt really care, il be getting the PS3 version better or worse, I think differences between the 2 versions will be tiny and only fanboys will make them out to be bigger than they are.

A little over a month later il have Metal Gear only available on PS3 wooo.

[Hagaf22]

yeah ps3 owners are going to be busy this summer, gta, haze, mgs, kz, resistance, so sweet, but man my wallet hurts.

[lelik]

what games r those

[Jon8602]

Whether its real or fake I couldnt care less. This game is gonna be insane...no matter what system you get it for...its gonna be awesomeness all around.

[OpiZA]

It reeks of being fake.

Doesn't matter since we're all going to enjoy this game in no time at all.

[sleepbox]

Yea, this was TOTALLY legit in that all the major news sites just had no idea of all these issues which allegedly plague the 360 version...the PS3 version is just PERFECT.

[HighDefinition]

Rarely say what`s wrong with each version until reviews, they don`t say that kinda stuff in previews. We`ll find the truth out soon.

[SUP3R]

Don't know why people find it hard to believe the PS3 version could be technically superior to the 360 version.

The PS3's SPU's are perfect for the number of calculations being processed in GTAIV. So I believed the "review" in the area where he said there was more happening on screen in the PS3 version than the 360 version.

This isn't the first time we're hearing this. We've also heard it from developers a number of times that the PS3 can handle a lot more simultaneous processes on-screen than the 360, which is actually obvious when you think about it.
I also remembered xbots saying early on that this isn't important and the systems "limited" ram hampers the CPU's capabilities lol.
Funny that now it seems like it is a major benefit to developers and the ram hasn't been mentioned as a limitation at all.

[fanboyarebitches]

its funny that noone has proved this yet not one game has proved this "THEORY" about the ps3 with untapped power, lmao ps3 is always talking about the future always talking about later not now but later
ever since launch theyve been talking about the ps3 potential but havent proved it ..its just like a guy who says hes tough but when he fights he gets his teeth knocked out.. sony fanboys are hilareous
your a sad person defending your console like its a god you can tell you never got pu$$y in your life and still suck on your mommy t!ts
like 2 year old you g@y prostate tickling C unt again dont reply cause i have friends i like playing with and i like to go outside unlike you

[SUP3R]

Yes yes you can go on and say how much of a virgin I am and I'm a 3 year old with no friends blah blah [insert useless verbal diarrhea here] etc., but my personal life has nothing to do with you nor do I have to prove anything to you on that part.

The point of the whole topic is that comments from people who make games , ie. not you, have all said that there is a lot potential to create technologically amazing games with the PS3. Don't attack me when it came directly from the goats mouth.

We've all been through this with the PS2 and we've all seen how "unproven" that turned out to be.
I'm sure common sense, something which you obviously lack, can tell you that you can't expect that to be accomplished within 2 years of the systems life. This isn't the 360 with tried and true tech, this is still all very new with more and more being discovered with each title that's released.

-EDIT-

It's also extremely funny how many times you say "I HAVE FRIENDS".
It's like you worked so hard to achieve that goal. HAHAHA
Well run along and play with your little "friends" and stop reminding yourself and us over and over again that "you have friends" because we REALLY don't care.
I don't know why you would be here with all these "friends" you have. You sound like you have so much you barely have time for yourself.
lol you sad sad little boy.

[fanboyarebitches]

i will continue to brag about my FRIENDS cause you dont have any you loner defending your console like its god is about the creepiest thing ive heard since charles manson killing people for fun
your the lowest of low (LOW as the nazis and rapest and pedophiles)
i will continue to make fun of you because your a virgin a loner a person who defends there console you are sad you need to go outside before blowing your head off from extreme depression cause lets face it the only friend you have is a ps3 and remote which you occasionally stick up your @SS because your father wont do it anymore cause he was sick of your creepiness hugging your console praying for it to have good games feeding it and stick your pathetic excuse for a small childs P ENIS in the disc reader (YES your P enis is that small)
you dont realise how low you are in the world do you ? on a scale of 1 to 10 (1 is the lowest which equal to a serial killer and rapest)
your a 0.5 because at least serial killers and rapest have a reason for what they are doing you dont you just defend it like some crazy girl that has a crush on a actor and has pictures of him all over her room? i mean at least the girl likes something thats alive and not some machinery. bottom line is you suck your creepy your a loner and virgin your not a nerd your not a normal person your just another fanboy who defends his console without any apparent reason like some goof i hope you get beat up i wish i lived near you so i can throw you in ring a beat you silly and beat the fanboyism out of you
reply back to me i love making fun of you

[SUP3R]

Why are you so interested in how big my d!ck is???
Your boyfriend didn't want to fcuk you last night so you come here to vent?
Sorry, but I'm not the shoulder you can cry on.
Go suck on a dildo and jack off that should cheer you up.

[Coke-a-Cola]

One can tell this guy has played the game .............

[pp]

it doesn't matter what review this nerd gave because xbox 360 version will be the superior version to get and also sales wise xbox360 will sell more.and also ps3 fan boy's will also get the 360 version

[SUP3R]

Thanks for that prediction Miss Cleo.

[TurdStationPee]

It's true. All gaming publications have all admitted to buying the 360 version. All the PS3 IGN guys said it, as did all the 1UP guys. Everyone. Guess you must have missed that podcast. lol, owned.

[sleepbox]

If these differences turn out to be true, specifically the PS3 version having more pedestrians/cars on screen at any given time, I will be waiting for the PC version, which will be superior anyway like every other GTA. Any one with common sense can tell this is BS.

[TheExecutive]

you are pry correct but I would rather play it with a controller.

[Gam71]

Buy a 360 controller and plug it into the pc.

Job done.

Most games now are made with the 360 controller in mind for the pc.
And it's a good controller. Not way too light and feels like its made of cheap plastic. rumble straight out of the box is good as well.

[Bolts]

The PC version will come out when this game is long pass it's prime, but it will be the best version.

[ps360s]

I CAN'T F****** WAIT FOR THIS GAME!!!!!

*ahem* both versions won't have a big difference and coming from R* You sure know both console versions will be great!

[Mc Fadge]

I mean, it could be legitimate, but I find it extremely doubtful. The only reason I'm not throwing this straight out the window is the fact that it was taken down by legal action. Is it known whether it was Microsoft or Rockstar lawyers ordered the content to be removed?

[TheExecutive]

Probably R* if it was a legit source. Either that or the guys website to which he publishes. Anyway it sounds like he has played the game but there are 3 questions that need to be asked:

1.) How much has the game improved since the build on 2/21
2.) Even if he has played it is he a legit source?
3.) He states that unless they are side by side you cant tell a difference, so who gives a f*ck?

[TheExecutive]

well it seems as though he has played it. That, however, doesnt mean this dude is a credible source. We will just have to wait and see.

I just wanted to say we will ALL be playing GTA here in a few days and even if there are minor differences who cares? Like the dude said, unless you are comparing side by side then you cant tell the difference. So who gives a f*ck?

[KratosKilla]

Have you played the 360 version or have you just dreamed about it. No one here has played through GTA 4 on both consoles here.

Why should I believe you?

[Official General]

I cant say for sure whether this GTA 4 review is real or fake. But I must say it does sound very informative and very detailed and my instincts tells me that this guy has actually played both versions of the game. What he states about the PS3 and 360 versions of the GTA 4 seems to in line and quite similar to what other gaming websites have stated. I've heard IGN and a few other websites say the similar things about the comparisons of both versions. I think I will just wait for proper and official reviews of the game, and more importantly see it for myself to make a conclusion.

However one thing is for sure - the 360 guys are not gonna be happy at all once they see this so-called review!

There's gonna be some real pissed off, agitated 360 heads in here very soon. Expect the 360 army to come with a barrage of backlashes!

I'm getting the PS3 version anyway because thats the only current-gen console I own. I'm just counting the days and getting ready for whats gonna be a killer game!

[jade0732]

ok the guy rights a review on a game that hasn't even been reviewed by the pros as yet. sounds like bs to me just look at the facts 1. 360 has a rep of sam of the best rendering in console gaming. 2. 360 has better antailiasing then ps3 and finely 3. ps3 can't handel complex tasks as the 360 can and dos all and more. so i divinely think this is a lode bs.

[TheExecutive]

lol dude where are you getting your info? You are wrong on so many levels it isnt funny.

"ps3 can't handel complex tasks as the 360 can and dos"

really?? in fact its quite the opposite.

[jade0732]

ps so sorry to piss off the ps3 army. but i own a 360 + ps3 and i like both of them so whets the prob.

[TheExecutive]

well Im not part of the "ps3 army" but you are just flat out wrong about your assessment of the hardware of BOTH systems.

[tehReaper]

@jade0732

Whoa broseph, I wouldn't say all of that.

@Everyone Else

The complex thing he is talking about could be the lack of a in-game PS3 guide, but that doesn't mean the PS3 can't handle it, just means Sony hasn't released it yet.

In a nutshell, the PS3 is the better tech console between the two. Features of each depend on Sony and Microsoft. The PS3 hasn't unleashed what it can do yet, because I don't think even Sony knows its' limits. Just wait, broseph.

As for this..eh..I'll call it preview(a review is generally based on the final version), I like the details he mentions. But seriously, is it just me that thinks it screams fanboy? I mean, he even comes out and "claims" he is a 360 fanboy, yet you can tell just by reading it that he is not. If you're a fanboy, you ARE NOT going to dis your console of choice version throughout the entire review. Why would he be extra hard on his preference? If you're a gamer, you'll state the facts(which according to him, he did) but, he says he is a fanboy. Hmm.

I'm buying the 360 version(achievements, DLC) from day one, no matter what. But I'll also be picking up the PS3 version if this far-fetched "review" is true.

Why does it matter so much to people which version is better? It is the SAME game.

[TheExecutive]

I agree the game will be the same... also do you not think that the sony accomplishments will not be in the game?

[tehReaper]

@TheExecutive

I never meant to make it sound like they wouldn't be on the PS3, I just prefer them to go towards my gamerscore since it's already built up. You know what I mean?

[TheExecutive]

ah makes sense... yeah I would too.

[tehReaper]

Okay, whoever disagreed with me about my gamerscore has no life. Just because I own all the consoles, doesn't give you the right to disagree with me about nothing. That's just dumb.

[va_bank]

I'm a PS3 fan and there's nothing more I'd like to see then PS3 version of the game get the edge for once, but I can't help but wonder if this whole "removed at the advice of legal council" is a stunt to make his review look more legitimate. Especially because there IS a difference between "council" and "counsel"

[krisq]

http://home.comcast.net/~in...

[Bubble Buddy]

Funny. If GTA4 never came to 360 every xbox person would be: Who cares...

[sleepbox]

just like no one cares about the exclusive DLC NOT coming to the PS3 version right?

[halo3betasnatch out]

no not really, I have a 360 and a PS3 and if it wasn't coming out for the PS3 or visa versa I'd be pissed as for the DLC, I don't really care it seems like a bit of a waste, if a 360 version of a game got map packs and PS3 didn't that doesn't really matter for me, I bought the game for the game not DLC

[Varsarus]

isn't the ps3 also getting DLC? just not as much as the 360's?

[sleepbox]

I hope this guy is getting sued for all he is worth as well as if he is a legit "video game journalist" or has any other job in the industry I hope his career is destroyed by this idiocy.

Oh and btw, look at this little line that proves all of you are wasting your time...

"I think it's time to put an end to this! I'm getting hate mail in languages I can't even read! This site was created purely for entertainment, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Thanks!"

Total FUD fanboy BS. Who approved this? BAN THEM.

[Chuk5]

It wasn't legit end of story.

[thehitman]

I have seen clips of both versions and I know hes on point with the color part. Installs I never knew of but if hes right the 360 ppl are going to get slighted since most have no hard drive or any space left on it. Which would also verify the frame issues for not installing. But who knows I doubt this guy would get so detailed if he was lying... and why would he make up lies about an install which every1 would know the truth when they pick up the game on the 29th. I dont see why a person would ruin their credibility for no apparent reason. But w.e we all will see on the 29th and im sure both versions will be amazing like he said probably wont even tell that somethings wrong unless compared side by side.

Alos about the split screen Im sure he just hasnt found out how to do it on the 360 version because if ps2 can handle split screen on gta then im sure 360 can but who knows gta4 is scaled extremely higher than previous gtas...

[Gam71]

Once again I call balONY with this "most people with a 360 don't have a hard drive"

Really? so the arcade or basic model is the biggest sell 360 sku?

Not by a mile. Get over yourselves.

[MonkeyOne]

Is it true you can install the game to the Hard disk on the 360? Or just portions of it?

[tehReaper]

@MonkeyOne

None of us know yet. It could be true, it could be false. Generally the PS3 gets installs I think to increase loading times because of Blu-ray's reading rate.

360 hasn't had to do this yet because it has fast read times(hence the jet engine sound coming from your 360 when it reads a game). It'd be nice to have an option of installation, though.

[potenquatro]

if you got a 20g hdd ur gonna have to make room.

[Varsarus]

It isn't because of read speed, it's because it's based on different technology than DVD, DVD is faster than blu-ray in single layered, but when it's in dual layer, it's speed drops, that results in blu-ray faster than a dual layered DVD, as blu-ray reads the same speed across the entire disk in both single and dual layer (CLV). Now once developers understand blu-ray, them installations will just go away in the future.

[tehReaper]

@Varsarus

Ahh, okay. Kudos for clearing it up. I wasn't entirely sure why it had installations, but now I know. Thanks broseph.

[THE TERMINATOR]

Dont give B.S about early build. Wasnt the PS3 version 2 weeks behind the 360? And its still superior, Man the 360 really is a POS.

[Chuk5]

he said the 360 version had frame rate problems
http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...
here on the first page it clearly sates the differences between the verisons graphically,in fact it more or less states which console version does this better so the differences are small you won't really care. And I quote"For the first time, Rockstar gave us hands-on access to both the PS3 and 360 versions of GTA IV. The good news is that no matter which system you prefer, you're going to have a great-looking game to play. There are only some minor visual differences noticeable between the two preview versions. The 360 build is brighter and has slightly more vibrant color while the PS3 build has less aliasing issues. Both display a solid, consistent framerate even during scenes with heavy pedestrian traffic and wild explosions."Both ps3 and 360 editors gave this view.

[Alcohog]

The person who posted this "review" already said it was a joke on GAF.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[thehitman]

How do we know its the same person??? Could just be some fanboy who gotten desperate. Also at Chuck it could be possible that they played it with the installs on both so they played perfect. The guy only said that there were drops w.o the installs. If GTA has installs then this guy wasnt lying if it does we should take out our pitch forks.

Edit: Geez...Posted just 6 hours ago, and I've already got hate mail! Let me clarify a few things. First, the build I previewed was dated 2/21/08. I finished the entire game (and have been playing it since). Second, the 360's issues appear to be bugs, hence the disclaimer below. Third, I'm not a PS3 fanboy. The PS3 doesn't have any good titles (except for Uncharted), so how can someone be a fanboy? I'm purposefully harder on the 360 version because I've been called a 360 fanboy in the past. There's no winning here! Fourth, I've added a counter. When/If this page can rack up 500,000 hits, I'll post more detail in a *SPOILERS* section to further legitimize it.

No comment on the ps3 hate in this quote thats a flame war starter. PPL plz ignore his fanboism.

[Alcohog]

That quote was ON HIS REVIEW PAGE. The review was edited with that at the top.

[Chuk5]

then it would have been stated if it was an install for 360 or ps3. You can't leave something like that out if your a game site w/such a great rep.

[thehitman]

But they havent gave it a full review yet... But I doubt some1 would hold that information away also Im just skeptical about this whole thing. I really dont care either way Im grabbign a ps3 version and enjoying it better or worse.

[Varsarus]

"This review is based on early previews of the game. It may or may not reflect the final retail version, available 4/29/08."

The latest trailer still had frame rate drops and it was released a month after he reviewed the game, and I'm pretty sure it was played on the 360 as the other trailers have been, so....hmm

[DRE1970]

then we can squash it

[potenquatro]

what about online on the ps3 version? does it have extra content on the blueray? what role did LIVE play in singleplayer? did it have some sort of offline mp? he just did a silly grafics comparo.

[Grown Folks Talk]

bright /braɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[brahyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, -er, -est, noun, adverb, -er, -est.
–adjective
1. radiating or reflecting light; luminous; shining: The bright coins shone in the gloom.
2. filled with light: The room was bright with sunshine.
3. vivid or brilliant: a bright red dress; bright passages of prose.////// gloom·y /ˈglumi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[gloo-mee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective, gloom·i·er, gloom·i·est.
1. dark or dim; deeply shaded: gloomy skies.//// Kind of a contradiction. Maybe it's just me.

[thehitman]

360 does do that. IDK why when DMC4 came out but me and my friend he has both 360 and ps3 and I have just ps3. He got dmc4 for 360 because he had a 1080i tube tv that couldnt support 720 and the ps3 version didnt upscale to 1080i like the dvds for dmc4 did. When I seen him play the 360 version was extremely more gloomy and darker in some places really wierd. It be really bright in some places then in the dark places too dark. On the ps3 version everything was just perfect not to bright not to dark. Like if you seen for yourself the 360 version you couldnt even see Nero's cape and ps3 you could. Thats probably what goes on here with Gta4.

[Grown Folks Talk]

but that's it. I didn't notice that. I adjust my tv for optimal viewing, so it's never been an issue for me. It's possible, but seems kind of odd. Almost like saying it's dull & vibrant at the same time.

[Meus Renaissance]

"I think it's time to put an end to this! I'm getting hate mail in languages I can't even read! This site was created purely for entertainment, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Thanks!"

[Hydrollex]

and it looks better LOL WOW f*ckx 360

[Lord Vader]

I hope R* sues the sh*t outta this guy for posting FUD.

Sad, I cannot believe the article was even approved.

[Grown Folks Talk]

They should dispense with the pleasantries commander.

[JD_Shadow]

...you didn't mind it when a techspy article was approved (TWO of them were before) that trashed the PS3 on anything and everything?

[Infernus]

I don't think he has an issue with it bashing the 360 version, just that the article isn't based on the full game and can't be taken seriously at all so shouldn't have been approved.

That's what he meant I believe.

[Microshaft]

its the same fecking game god sake you Sony girls constantly saying it will be better on your delaystation well who cares i just want to play it, no matter what its like on different systems it'l still kick a$$ and barely unnoticable comparisons so shut it girlies.

[GODofDOOMS]

100th commect

[JokerSGS]

This summer is really gonna be good for us PS3 owners. And there really is no other way I could play GTA except with a Sony controller. Same thing applied with DMC4. The only bad thing about this is it's coming out around the time that we need to start preparing for finals.

[Infernus]

Exam time for me the following 2 weeks from the point GTA4 is released so I'll have to wait 2 weeks before I can play it if I want to do well. GTA does sap time away and that's not good for studying.

Then again after the 2 weeks of exams I have almost 5 months of nothing so GTA4 and MGS4 here I come :D

[PS360PCROCKS]

Lmao that was a terrible "review" anyways. Are you kidding me? It didn't say anything or outline anything inside the game. ANYONE could have written that crap. Lol who cares about reviews anyways, lol anyone who read it is buying the game anyways. Hell we ALL will. APRIL 29TH!!

[Varsarus]

We'll see what happens anyway.

[OOG FunK]

meh like most have said this review isnt legit....

Just a way to get hits on their site and cause termoil....sad sad....they even know they are not allowed to release reviews this early before the release of a title this big.....hence why its someone desperately looking for attention

[eagle21]

This game had NO LEAD PLATFORM. Sam Houser already stated this. This review guy has no reason to lie. Did he trash the 360 version? No. Did he patronize in any way? No. But you and I both saw the OBVIOUS. Right?

If 360 had more on screen characters, better framerate, splitscreen, and realistic colors I would give respect. But it DOESN'T...lol

Who do you REALLY think will benefit the most from GTA IV? Join the Playstation Club and you won't keep getting disappointed...lol :)

Playstation 3 + Grand Theft Auto IV + FREE ONLINE = classic. :)

[Snukadaman]

So can you explain the trailers and even the finished product on the xbox 360 months ago with the ps3 delay...

"And the Xbox 360 version of the game has suffered at least a six month delay as a result, due to contractual obligations that will have prevented the publisher from releasing the game first on Microsoft's machine, says the analyst."

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...
man whats with you people these days..just type what you think before looking into facts and using some common sense?

[Varsarus]

Dude, the delay was because of the ps3 (in parts), the earlier trailers had frame rate issues, so it was good that they delayed it, enough time to polish BOTH versions. However, the frame rate issues happened again in the 4th trailer with only a month away until release and oh wait....wasn't that played on the 360? lol, but still, I won't say the ps3 will be the better version.

Anyway that article is in the past, it's only 22 days till release so quit b!tching.

@below

Did I say it took 6 months to fix them? No

They could of delayed it for the other stuff aswell, not just ps3 or 360. So we'll just have to see.

[Snukadaman]

So you think it took 6 months too fix framerate issues because of the trailers...dam you are a truly a mindless droid....good work sony soldier. And too let you in on a little secret..ALL the trailers were off the xbox 360..No pics or trailers have been specified as ps3 from the beginning.

[tonsoffun]

How can someone review a game without recieving a reviewable code?

[MrWonderful]

wtf

[funkysolo]

He try to to down play the PS3 version somewhat, to make the 360 version equall. But who cares buy the version for which console you own, like I always said 2 extra pixels are not going to make a difference on a multiplatform game

[MasterChief2829]

The review was fake anyway. Hell, the site owners could've faked the legal message too just to make it look good :p

[Alcaponedyou]

lol ps3 version all the way

[Snukadaman]

I cant see a website jeopardizing their reputation and the ability to play future games on one game , even though it is one of the most anticipated title of the year.

[cheetah]

Anyone who thinks that either version is going to be dramatically different is dreaming. The facts are;

1. MS probably had a clause in their 50mil deal to have previews shown of the 360 version only.
2. Anyone who has a PS3 and 360 knows that the PS3 is a more capable and impressive machine, regardless of the views of certain websites and magazines opinions on crappy ports.
3. As good as GTA4 will be, I am sure it will be dumbed down to compensate for no HD and inferior hardware in the 360.

The good thing this whole episode shows is how insecure and threatened the bots are of the emergence of the PS3. Sorry kids, get used to it. Its over.

[Gam71]

Going on the wild assumption that gta iv is too much for the "inferior" 360 hardware these comments from ps3 fans must be from their insecurities from the last gen.

After all weren't games like the gta series less than what they could've been thanks to the "inferior" ps2 hardware.
Oh but all off a sudden it's not about the games library but superior hardware.
A complete 180 by the balONY fangirls.

[cheetah]

You are right about dumbed down games for PS2, but guess what? this is 2008 and we are in a new generation. Same argument only reversed. And didnt we cop it last gen when san andreas was superior on XBOX. Cop it sweet cry baby.

And the library is where it counts, but I am still at a loss to see this so called briliant library the 360 has. 4 games! BIO, GEARS, HALO, MASS EFFECT. Well i will say, RESISTANCE, UNCHARTED, WARHAWK, MOTORSTORM. At the moment the quality on both systems is about even, only problem is that 360 is on the decline just when PS3 is hitting its stride.

Idiots like you will just fork out for the next XBOX in a year or two and get shafted again like you did on the last transitition. lol

[Gam71]

Did you cop it last gen?

No-one really cared people seemed to just play games, but now the shoe is on the other foot superior hardware is a big issue for ps3 fans.

So not only making up whats going to happen in the future now you lot are giving us balONY about the past.

Wow so the 360 only has 4 games.
I thought the library was bigger than that. Wait your saying the ps3 only has 4 games as well? Whats your point? Do you have one.

Fact 360>ps3 library. and price as well. (thats a big issue over here where even 360 games are waay over priced, not to the point of ps3 but that shows rip off britain for you) So you spent all that money and bought 4 games.
That sucks. I have more on my wii. Or did you only pick games on the 360 you think you could like and ignored the others regardless of whether they're good or not.
What about your ps3. If you hate the 360 library that much most of the next gen library are on both consoles. So you won't buy a game if it's been on the 360? Is that what your saying?
Thats retarded. Of course for you to include games for both consoles means you have to admit the 360 library is better than your narrow mind will allow you.
What a shame you won't allow yourself to enjoy the full ps3 catalogue due to the fact you hate the 360 that much? Why did a 360 dump you once?

Or is this the typical mentality of a ps3 fangirl (not ps3 fan)

[ROCCOZILLA]

GTA always will look better on its home console.you cant fight the power of the PS3,now i have my rumble controler so this game should be way better on the PS3.and in split screen co-op online.sweeet,it will be like ARMY OF TWO which is an awsum online game!PLAY B3YOND!!!

[jade0732]

those who lie about the little things can not be trusted with the truth. albert einstein said that

[morganfell]

No you are wrong. Quite wrong. Your statement makes no sense whatsoever as it is. What Einstein stated was, "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters."

[Kain81]

R* would say something but...R* is quite on that i think it true.