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The Co-op Podcast 87: Will Rise of the Tomb Raider Be Uncharted For Xbox?

Gary Swaby at The Koalition writes: On episode 87 of The Co-op Podcast We discuss Phil Spencer's comments about wanting an Uncharted like game on the Xbox platform. This is what lead them to the decision of paying Square Enix to make Rise of the Tomb Raider exclusive, but will the game be able to achieve everything Naughty Dog has in their blockbuster IP? Will the fact that it's also releasing on the Xbox 360 hold it back from achieving greatness? We discuss it in length.

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SoulWarrior3534d ago

Are people forgetting already that it was confirmed as timed exclusive?

Cueil3534d ago

Phil compaired the deal to the Dead Rising 3 deal

Mr Pumblechook3534d ago

I'm looking forward to the PC and PlayStation version of this. I won't be buying the Xbox version because it will encourage Phil Spencer to keep using Bill Gates money to restrict games from the biggest next-gen community.

Rise of the Tomb Raider is a cross-gen game so I doubt it will technically be as able to hit graphical heights of Uncharted 4 which has been designed to work on one console and take advantage of its features.

sonarus3534d ago

so is dead rising 3 timed as well?

If i had to choose between uncharted and tomb raider i will choose uncharted everytime.

cleft53534d ago

The real problem with this deal is that Square Enix is going to release some sort of definitive edition of the game 6 months to a year later. That version will be $60 on all platforms including the Xbox One. So essentially, the 2015 version will just be the beta version of the game and Square Enix will take all of the feedback and additional content and release the game again to the Xbox One people and everyone else.

That's a really sleazy move and sets a terrible president if they are profitable. For that reason I won't even buy the game when it comes to PC and PS4. Essentially, the Xbox One consumers will be treated like beta testers while paying full price for the game and having the game marketed as being a finished product. That really isn't okay at all. I think people better be very careful about how they spend their money in regards to this Tomb Raider game, otherwise we will see these shady practices resurface.

nucky643534d ago

I don't care if TR wasn't an exclusive in any form. i want UC4 a zillion times more than TR.

incendy353534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

I definitely liked the writing better in Uncharted 3 than TombRaider reboot. But I enjoyed the gameplay in TombRaider reboot more than Uncharted 3. Both awesome adventure games. Can't wait to play both Uncharted 4 and Rise of the TombRaider!

SwiffEpics3534d ago

We're not forgetting, we're just discussing the statement that Phil Spencer himself made, he said he wants an Uncharted like game and that's why they sought after Tomb Raider.

ScorpiusX3534d ago

But not carved in stone, besides the deal can be restructured to allow a buy of the IP.
who know such a clause can already be in the contract just a mattress of time .

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Hellsvacancy3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Simple answer no, you don't just buy something like Uncharted

I was looking on eBay the other day to buy some decent headphones (i'm a music freak) and I noticed China sells LOADS of cheap headphones, extremely cheap

It's the same logic, I could of bought buy some real cheap headphones, but i'd rather pay abit more on a trusted manufacturer and have QUALITY sounding headphones

I ended buying Sennheiser Momentums btw (Amazon)

Imalwaysright3534d ago

No it isn't the same logic. That would be implying that the TR reboot is bad game which just simply isn't true.

Double Toasted3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

^^^
Thank you. Well said!

Inzo3534d ago

Well, its not a great game.

Hellsvacancy3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

I didn't say the headphones from China were bad, obviously they do the job, sound isn't that hard to hear, they were just not as good quality wise

Imalwaysright3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

No, of course not... but you did say that chinese headphones are "extremely cheap" and that their makers aren't to be trusted and don't make things with "QUALITY". What's funny is that the headphones that you bought could have been made in China since Sennheiser has a factory there.

OC_MurphysLaw3534d ago

It already is. Tomb Raider reboot gave xbox fans a taste of an Uncharted like game, that will continue with RTR.

MrKennedy3534d ago

This is a good post about a gaming podcast.

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It’ll Be Fine, Right? Five Games With Unfortunate Release Strategies

Mark from WellPlayed writes about five game launches that were impacted by unfortunate scheduling.

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jznrpg354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

Zero Dawn sold really well so I’m not sure this belongs. The second game released next to a big game again and it hurt it some I forget what it was though, oh yeah Elden Ring .
But a good game is a good game to me I don’t care when they release personally but they do have to think about it when you want to get more people to buy it.

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The Tomb Raider Survivor Trilogy's Take on Lara Croft Deserved More Recognition

The Survivor Trilogy was a drastic reimagining of Lara Croft and Tomb Raider, and it provokes changes for the character that are truly fantastic.

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isarai467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

Deserves less IMO, i think the 1st in the new trilogy was a perfect 1st step for the new direction. The next 2 games were half steps at best. Not only that, every character in the series including Lara is just annoying and doesn't make sense in terms of motive, like yes they have a motive, but none of it seems proportional to the lengths they are willing to go through for it. The most annoying thing is every one of the games say "become the Tomb Raider" yet 3 games later and we're still not there? No thanks. Then there's the mess of the 3rd game, massive skill tree that serves almost no purpose as there's literally only like 3-4 short encounters in the whole game, and they took till the 3rd game to finally manage some decent puzzles even remotely close to previous games in the series. Nah, the trilogy infuriated me to no end as a long time fan of the series, i hope we get better going forward cause that crap sucked.

Army_of_Darkness466d ago

The first in the trilogy was my favorite. I thought they were going into the right direction with that one until the second one came out and seemed like a graphical downgrade but the gameplay was okay. As for the Third, Graphics were really nice but it was kinda boring me to death with its non-stop platforming and exploring with not enough action! Well, for me anyway...

DeathTouch465d ago

Graphics on the 3rd one were abysmal. It’s more colorful and has more variety, but everything else was a noticeable downgrade.

The more open world with NPC quests was also handled very poorly, to the point I missed Angel of Darkness.

thesoftware730466d ago

I know it is your opinion, but she did progress as a character in each game, she even got more muscular and seasoned.

That is the thing, people first complained that there was not enough platforming and actual tomb raiding in the first and second games. Shadow remedied that and kept the combat elements.

3-4 encounters? huh? did we play the same game? there was plenty of combat and, the skill tree did matter, like being able to hang enemies from trees, set explosives traps on bodies, being able to counter, and that are just a few of the combat skills. The skill tree also had things like being able to hold your breath underwater longer, crafting upgrades, zipline upgrade, and climbing upgrades that all changed how you can approach situations.

Not knocking your opinion, but we definitely had different experiences. I had 98% completion on the shadow.

SoulWarrior466d ago (Edited 466d ago )

Sorry but i'm with him about the low number of encounters, the game throws loads of weapons and skills you're way with a comparatively low amount of places to actually use them, so they felt under utilised.

-Foxtrot467d ago

Yeah...no

It was awful, for THREE GAMES it was "become the Tomb Raider" where she went back to square one after each game. Not to mention after a huge reaction of killing someone for the first time she then becomes Rambo straight after and goes on a slaughter spree without a single other reaction. Her development was all over the place.

She was whiney, weak and in later game a little arrogant and selfish

Oh and the voice actress compared to the previous ones was not as good

Lara Croft deserved better and while they are decent games as they are, we deserved actual Tomb Raider games, we could have had better survival games if they just stuck with the original Lara Crofts origin about her plane going down. Surviving 2 weeks in the Himalayas...I'd have liked to seen that, who knows what mystical threat she could have faced in the mountains or underground some secret concealed cave.

Tacoboto465d ago

I thought Shadow of the Tomb Raider had better gameplay than Rise, but it annoyed me the most of the trilogy when I stopped to think about the story.

It's like they deliberately decided to make her unlikeable and did nothing to make the character you're playing as likeable or have even one sign of humility.

SoulWarrior467d ago

2013 I thought was a fine entry, but Rise and especially Shadow were painfully mediocre follow ups imo, I really didn't like how selfish and angry her character was in those two.

Terry_B466d ago

No. Please forget the crap completely.

northpaws466d ago

First one was decent, played through it twice.
Second one was okay, played through it once.
Third one was really bad, tried twice a year apart, still can't get through the first two hours, it is just really bad.

thesoftware730466d ago

Honest question, what did you find bad about it? the opening 2 hrs of Shadow were fantastic imo.

The opening was very similar to the first 2, what did you find really bad?

Not looking for an argument, just an honest question.

Starman69466d ago

3rd one just didn't feel like a tomb raider game. Possibly because the development was passed to another development team. Big mistake! Microsoft killed tomb raider making the first game a timed exclusive. Never recovered after that.

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Get three Tomb Raider games free at Epic Games Store

Starting today, Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and Rise of the Tomb Raider are free at Epic Games Store. The free game offers run until January 6 at 11 AM Eastern. Once you claim them, they’re yours to keep.

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CrimsonWing69846d ago (Edited 846d ago )

They're all solid games, but nothing quite matched the epicness of the first one for me. I think the 3rd one started off strong but once you got to that Peruvian area it took a massive nose dive for me.

lelo2play846d ago (Edited 846d ago )

You got to be kidding!
The first one was great at the time... but this latest trilogy of Tomb Raider games are also great.

LiViNgLeGaCY846d ago

I think he means the first one in the new trilogy.

CrimsonWing69846d ago

I meant the first of the new trilogy.

Furesis846d ago

yeah i remember liking the first one when it came out, so i tried the second one sometime after release and i just could not get into it, i couldn't finish it. So i might try the 3rd now that i got it for free but ehh. But i do remember enjoying the first one, i wonder if i'd feel the same way if i played it today? Better not taint those memories lol

ANIALATOR136846d ago

I was the same for some reason. Never finished the second one. I got like half way through maybe.

ActualWhiteMan845d ago (Edited 845d ago )

The first one of the latest trilogy is a masterpiece

Fishy Fingers846d ago

I'll take a copy of Shadow... Cheers.

Profchaos846d ago

Great games I've played them all on ps4 but it'll be good to finally try shadow on my rtx card.

Double_O_Revan846d ago

Trying to claim them and the store keeps crashing. lol.

gamefreaks365846d ago

EGS has been having issues all day.

RedDevils846d ago

Weird I don't has that issue.

Double_O_Revan846d ago

I finally got it after a while. But it was real bad for a while.

PeeShuter846d ago (Edited 846d ago )

Claim games by going to the website and login using ur credentials. I did the same as i couldnt use epic launcher. Also try reinstalling Epic Launcher I did it and it worked.

Double_O_Revan846d ago

I always go through the website. It was all just down for a while yesterday it seems.

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