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Witcher 3 Will Not Use Any Special Graphical Features of PS4 & Xbox One, Will Not Use Hardware MSAA

"The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is a gorgeous looking game and CD Projekt are trying to deliver the same experience across the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One."

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johndoe112113531d ago

"We always want to provide the best possible experience to all our gamers regardless of the platform and so we are not aiming to develop special graphical features for any of them"

This HAS to be the biggest PR BS contradicting statement I have ever seen from a developer. Did that guy think about what he was saying? How the hell do you deliver the best possible experience to every one by aiming for parity?. By his logic I hope the PC version does not look better than the console versions and they aim for parity across board.

MightyNoX3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

It vexes me how CD Projekt went from standing against everything Microsoft stood to basically **** riding Microsoft this gen.

BEFORE:

-DRM is bad
- We started GOG so PC users can have more options
- We love PC
- Push graphics spectrum!

NOW:

- DRM is good
- options are bad
- PC users can suck it
- 1080p is a mythical resolution

vishmarx3530d ago

agreed. this is bull.
i admit i dont have a capable p so ill probably be playing this on ps4 but this isnt the cdpr i knew.

theyre the ones who still roll out balancing mods and free dlc for witcher 2.
and now theyre just busy praising drm and MS. you cant make the best possible version without using their special features.
i have a feeling they might just end up gimping all version to xb1 level because MS isnt competent enough to make a good console but they have a lot of money

True_Samurai3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

Lol what. CD & MS has always been on good terms. How you think witcher 2 came to the 360

Mr Pumblechook3530d ago

Does this mean that because they received a backhander from Microsoft they are going to ensure graphical PARITY and claim they are being fair?

nX3530d ago

It's strange, Microsoft is showing off their game on every occasion so they somehow have to return this favour. Maybe it's really through console parity, who knows.

jackanderson19853530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

where did you get the DRM is good (game is DRM free)? they're still providing options (on GOG, Steam and both consoles), PC gamers are getting way better support than consoles in terms of FPS and Res (depends on your rig of course but i don't believe they're artifically gimping them), and not sure where the last part came from at all

Supporter3530d ago

Why argue with any of you? You all believe whatever you want to be true either way.

Supporting evidence is easy to find no matter what side of the coin you're on.

r9 290/290x are supreme beasts of a cards. Not to be compared to the ps4 or xbox gpu, in either graphical performance, or "compute"

Im still new here, but I really hear some wacky stuff around these parts.

I mean what on earth made you think that the ps4 gpu would come anywhere close to AMD's flagship card lineup? even if Cerny somehow shoehorned that into his speech...

ALLWRONG3530d ago

DRM? You mean like what Sony does with PSNow?

XBLSkull3530d ago

If they get it up to 1080p on the Xbox I'll buy it on the X1, otherwise I'm gonna let my r9 290x tear this game a new one.

SonyPS43530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

The DRM on PSNow is kind of how the whole service works. The entire game is processed by the servers otherwise the game wouldn't work at all on PSVita, PS4, PC, etc. It works just like OnLive, Netflix, Hulu, and any other media streaming equivalents.

This is different from DRM in its conventional sense.

thereapersson3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

@SonyPS4, and don't forget that Steam is a form of DRM. It's just implemented so well that most people don't mind.

Paprika3530d ago

Microsoft are terrible. They are literally the illuminati of gaming.... oh bill gates started Xbox, Right? Hmm....

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thezeldadoth3530d ago

why would you hope for the PC version to be downgraded? Why would that satisfy you?

jimjam34423530d ago

i think you should read all words when reading. skipping two or three doesnt get the job done.

Waffles113530d ago

U are right. All dis readin and sarcasm and irony talk make no sense. My brain hurts too much to read dis stufff. U jus like me man. I don get dis crazy talks.

Mikeyy3530d ago

Why does the ps4 version getting downgraded to xbone satisfy you?

So its not okay to console parity pc version, but its ok to gimp ps4?

Paprika3530d ago

I think you need to read what he wrote again :) he never stated that at all.

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Dark113530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

Lol you fanboys are going crazy.. don't buy the game then.

@MightyNoX

"DRM is good
- options are bad
- PC users can suck it
- 1080p is a mythical resolution"

and your Source for this BS is?

Tctczach3530d ago

Lol. Totally agree. They are releasing it on GOG DRM free. But they will forget about it and down vote me just to make a point.

Future_20153530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

For anyone thinking the PS4 GPU is a R9 290 should really not comment on anything technical or hardware specific, NVIDIA GTX 750TI has beaten the PS4 in benchmark tests on a couple of games and that card is £100 on amazon, lastly if SONY were so proud of their hardware why don't they put a benchmark application on there like 3D mark 11 and show how good it is

johndoe112113530d ago

Who the hell are you replying to and what the hell are you talking about????

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Unarmed_Civilian3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

LOL NVIDIA GTX 750TI is slower than PS4 gpu, stop spreading BS.

750 Ti
Memory bandwidth- 86.4 GB/s...... PS4
176GB/s
Rops - 16........PS4 32
1,728 GFLOPS.......PS4 1.84
TMU - 40........PS4 72
Pixel Rate 16.32 GPixel/s......PS4 25.6
Memory bus 128 bit......PS4 256 bit
Shading Units 640 ....PS4 1152

ravensly3530d ago

first of all 750 ti is maxwell so its twice as effiecient as ps4. double the shading unit doesnt matter. so i can say ps4 is basically modified 7870 amd with the power of new r7 265 amd. and ps4 and xbox one will be outdated by next year as new gpu will start rolling.

Vegamyster3530d ago

"You do realize the GPU in PS4 is dedicated hardware which has nearly twice the efficiency of the same hardware in a PC."

Can i ask why you think that? http://i.imgur.com/mTsV9W6....

@Unarmed_Civilian

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

LightDiego3530d ago

Guys, don't worry it's just the idiot of Future.

funkybudda3530d ago

Why dont you build a PC for $400 that can beat PS4, in fact, there are units being sold for $369 on ebay from various reputed sellers. So let see what you can come up with a PC that can perform equal or better to PS4.

DougLord3530d ago

I thought PS4 was around a 760 (1.8tf) and X bone was 750ti (1.3tf). Regardless I agree with your point (albeit unspoken), even if CD PROJECT used every ounce of power the PS4 has, it would be barely noticeable vs the Xbone, and a good PC would kill them both (although still not enough of a difference to make a real meaningful impact on gameplay).

ravensly3530d ago

452 dollar pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r...

it will play battlefield 4 at 1080p ultra 50fps and other multiplatform games better than both the consoles https://www.youtube.com/wat...

AndrewLB3530d ago

Unarmed_Civilian- Enjoy...

http://n4g.com/news/1461003...

Oh... one HUGE factor you forget to consider is core clock speed. The 750ti can easily run at 1,300mhz. The PS4's gpu only runs at 800mhz. That's more than 60% more MHZ.

Big_Game_Hunters3530d ago

@ the infected, yes that I called optimization, But optimization doesn't mean what it used to, before xoneps4 there was unique hardware to learn. Now it's just typical PC hardware. now optimization pretty much means if a dev wants to get 1080 60 they can adjust the settings. PC gamers have optimization too, if my game isn't running at 60fps I turn the settings down.

mkis0073530d ago

@ ravensly
You forgot the operating system, and no that pc would be lucky to run a few games at the same standard as the consoles.

Daniel_Potter3530d ago

@Unarmed_Civilian
Linus suggest judging the graphics card only by it's benchmarks, not by stats
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Mikeyy3530d ago

@raven

4 gigs of ram
2 gb video card.

No operating system.

Are you for real with this?

ravensly3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

consoles use only 4.5gb ram and you can add another 2gb ram if you want so 6gbram.as for the operating system you can have linux or the backup of windows 7 cd which i have.

mikey what 2gb video card.2gb is more than enough for 1080p gaming unless you use heavy anti aliasing and other effects.

a r9 270 can play watch dogs at high at 1080p 40fps even though its optimization is shit

Sweep143530d ago

@ravensly : No keyboard/mouse, no gamepad, no OS, price too high. Try again

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spacedelete3530d ago

it is BS. i want my PS4 to be used of every power it has. why buy a new console if developers don't want to push the console to its limit ? greedy ass MS spoiling the current gen for everyone whether your a PC gamer, PS4 gamer and Xbox gamer. they intentionally made a underpowered console to cut costs when its not like they are having cash problems. how embarrassing for MS that its games and console are worse than Sony who are bleeding money like its going out of fashion.

MS are a disease that is ruining the fun for everyone.

Soc53530d ago

Also, all the money MS is spending now to make up for the underpowered xbox, could have been spent on producing an xbox one with much better specs. :(
Which most likely I would have purchased instead of sitting this one out for a while.

GribbleGrunger3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

All we can hope for now is that the XB1 version is great because that's the version the PS4 gamers are going to get. What a pity 'some' developers are not prepared to take advantage of that 40% extra horse power. Microsoft's whole strategy this generation is going to be: 'If you can't beat them, hold them back.'

It won't work though because as the install base of the PS4 grows much bigger and the gap grows bigger too, the money required to influence parity will increase exponentially. In the short term, the PS4 will be held back for 'some' games, but in the long term the differences will become ever more apparent and go beyond simple resolution and framerate.

Aussiebeachbabe3530d ago

40% extra horsepower....don't think so.. more like 20%. Another person thinking ps4 is a supercomputer.

GribbleGrunger3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

No, another person who follows the news and doesn't visit MisterXmedia. I could have said 50% but I don't agree with that.

medman3530d ago

I'm reconsidering buying this game. I have never played a Witcher game before, but this one looked really interesting...but I can't stand when developers "aim for parity". Just make the game the best for each system you're developing for...if not, you're not getting my dollars. Period.

AndrewLB3530d ago

These guys make PC games, and the PC game will be far and away the best version.

As for his comment, I think they said exactly what a smart marketing person would say. They could have flat out said "PS4 and Xbone don't have the power to run the game with anti-aliasing or details anywhere close to the PC version. You console fanboys need to realize they're made with two year old mobile technology".

Fyi... he was talking about parity between consoles. Not PC and consoles.

user56695103530d ago

Yep they would of burned him at the stake. If you show console only gamers how big the difference between console and pcs they will shun you. They would downplay it and say it sucks.

joab7773530d ago

I agree completely. I love CD Project Red, I do. But there is definitely an affinity towards MS. So, to provide the best possible gameplay to everyone, you would build and use every tool that each platform has at its disposal. Thus, PC at ultra settings would look and run best. Then, the PS4 and finally xbone. Does this alter gameplay? No. But you don't build a game at the lowest common denominator to make the most ppl happy.

CaptainObvious8783530d ago

Actually, considering the install bases of the 3 platforms, by aiming for parity on the xbone it's pissing a large majority of the fanbase off.

I know the n4g comment section is by no means scientific, but you can see roughly 9/10 comments are blasting CDproject for this, and rightly so.

brainfart3530d ago

Lol.. remember both console are rocking old tech for the the most part, if cdp added msaa both systems would average around 20 fps lol, I would hope you'd prefer stable frame rate before eye candy.Beside cdp started on pc way before porting to consoles so dont get piss over something you cant control, like always cdp will make witcher 3 the definitive version on PC hate all you wont, because its not going to change the facts lol

johndoe112113530d ago

Your name seems to be a true representation of what is really between your ears. Obviously what I stated went clear over your head.

brainfart3530d ago

Actually its the other way around, even if cdp made witcher 3 to both console capabilities lol how much better do you think ps4 version would be compared to xbox one a few frames more with eye candy that you could barely tell the difference, doesn't matter to me cause im getting the definitive version and I will be playing it at 60fps to bad you cant say the same hahaha.

geddesmond3530d ago

So in other words PS4 version dumbed down as MS asked them too with probably a bag of money they tried using to get consol exclusivity like with Tombraider. Horray MS yet again holding multiplats back because they released a weaker piece of hardware. And people wonder why I hate MS as a gamer. Hmm I wonder why???

I highly doubt this will effect the PC version but if it did oh boy, people think PS4 fans were pissed at the Tombraider deal well wait for PC fans with this.

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thezeldadoth3530d ago

on a good pc, higher resolution and framerate will be worth it alone. It'll have better anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering as well as uber sampling and higher res textures. if you have nvidia you'll be able to have better physics in the water and fur and other things.

don't believe the PR, console versions are worse than PC by a good bit, but will be relatively similar to each other. this statement is more for the ps4 vs one argument.

SoCalledMe3530d ago

"We always want to provide the best possible experience to all our gamers regardless of the platform and so we are not aiming to develop special graphical features for any of them"

But .. but you guys are using Physix , thats kinda not only PC vs console specific but only Nvidia specific feature , iwdhqwduqd logic

averagejoe263530d ago

It's sad you would skip out on a game over graphics... Something is wrong with this new generation of gamers... They're spoiled... Growing up, graphics were shit for me but games were fun and memorable... Gameplay over graphics 100%... Putting graphics first is a shame

GribbleGrunger3530d ago

I think he's skipping because of principles.

Roccetarius3530d ago (Edited 3530d ago )

Principles on N4G? That has to be the first time i've heard of that.

This just makes me wish that CDPR didn't develop it for multiple platforms. They would've had much more time for improving the game.

Jack_Reacher3530d ago

So why is it bad to skip it out of principle? Why should I pay a dev money who have clearly not taken my platform of choice into development consideration at all. Remember they have themselves stated they are making no special treatment to anyone platform. Which means its coded to the lowest common denomination. Or xbox1.

I feel most sorry for pc owners which good rigs.

CaptainObvious8783530d ago

It's a real pity.

I was going to buy this game, but now it's going to be a rent.

Congratulations CD. By coddling to the lowest common denominator you're losing sales. I had so much respect for you up until 5 minutes ago.

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The 7 Best Western RPGs: Immersive Adventures

RPGs are often huge, sprawling endeavours. With limited playtime, we have to choose wisely, so here's the best western RPGs available today.

SimpleSlave10d ago

"I started playing games yesterday" the List... Meh!

How about a few RPGs that deserve some love instead?
1 - Alpha Protocol - Now on GOG
2 - else Heart.Break()
3 - Shadowrun Trilogy
4 - Wasteland 2
5 - UnderRail
6 - Tyranny
7 - Torment: Tides of Numenera

And for a bonus game that flew under the radar:
8 - Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden

DustMan10d ago

Loved Alpha Protocol in all it's glorious jank. Great game.

SimpleSlave10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Not only glorious jank, but the idea that the story can completely change depending on what you do, or say, or side with, makes it one of the most forward thinking games ever. The amount of story permutation is the equivalent of a Hitman level but in Story Form. And it wasn't just that the story changed, no, it was that you met completely new characters, or missed them, depending on your choices. Made Mass Effect feel static in comparison.

Alpha Protocol was absolutely glorious, indeed. And it was, and still is, more Next Gen than most anything out there these days. In this regard at least.

Pity.

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thorstein34d ago

.... from the 2000s (mostly).

shinoff218334d ago

I can't fk with this list. They missed on alot of games probably before the writers times. Also I know people loved some portal but I was never a fan.

Cacabunga34d ago

Tomb Raider 1
Driver 1
Abe’s Odyssey
FF6
King of Fighters 94
Mortal Kombat OG
LINK 2 the past
Street Fighter 2
Resident Evil 1

Inverno34d ago

Infinite but not the first two games? Witcher 3 but not the first two games?? GTA V but not literally any of the games before it??? Portal 2 but not the first? Also if you're going to play Shadow of The Colossus play the remaster and not the remake. Can't say I disagree with the list but my man it's all over the place.

Name Last Name34d ago

I mean some sequels are objectively better and you don’t need to play the whole series.

Inverno34d ago

But most of these games have a story to follow, sure you can catch up with a YouTube vid but where's the fun in that?

LucasRuinedChildhood34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

A list like this isn't telling you not to play the previous games if you want to. It's just giving you legendary games to play.

But tbh, you don't always have to force yourself to play every entry in a franchise to get to the better ones.

- The vast majority of Witcher 3 players never played the first 2 and had a great time. The first 2 games aren't in the same league.
- The GTA games are self-contained with the odd fun reference. You can easily jump into any of them.
- The Shadow Of The Colossus remake looks and controls better than the original (plus it has a 60fps option while the remaster is just 30fps). New players will enjoy it more.
- Portal 2 is a lot better than Portal 1 and takes the concept much further gameplay-wise. Storywise, Portal 1 is fairly light too. Not that you shouldn't play it but realistically ... you'd love Portal 2 whether you play it or not (at lot of Portal 2 players have never played 1).

Bioshock 1 is the only one I agree with you on simply because it's one the best games of all time and arguably better than Infinite. No other setting like Rapture.

Looking at the list, I'd recommend playing Uncharted 1 before 2 but no doubt, 2 is the legendary one you have to play.

Inverno34d ago

I get it, but that's just my opinion on his opinion. I just think that before you play a sequel you should still play what came before it. Maybe it's just me but i find it fascinating playing through the first game in a series and seeing how it has evolved through its sequels. Like I said I don't disagree with the list, other than SoTC which I strongly believe the remaster of the original should be played above the remake.

AuraAbjure34d ago

Awesome list! Hot take on Fear (and it's hard af expansion Persaus Mandate!) Bioshock Infinite is stellar, so is the Witcher 3 and you nailed it by having Ocarina of Time. So many fantastic games! Gotta play 'em all! Next one on my list is Prey after I beat Dead Space 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

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