Lara Croft's next adventure isn't coming to PlayStation or PC. Despite some short term gains, the long term effects this could have the Tomb Raider franchise are probably not very good. Could abandoning a large group of a fanbase put the series in a bad place moving forward?
Square Enix will be releasing three new manga titles later this year, all of which are available for pre-order now.
Polygon: "Tomb Raider developer Crystal Dynamics launched a new website for the franchise on Wednesday — Valentine’s Day is also Lara Croft’s birthday — with another peek at the impending “unified” design for its action heroine. New artwork of Lara sporting a post-Survivor trilogy look that evokes her classic design supports the theory that the Lara we saw last fall in Call of Duty is basically the character’s future appearance."
Crystal Dynamics really going hard with the man face. They sure do hate feminine looks!
If you honest to God think that face is feminine, says alot about you pal. Go outside and see what actual women look like. Go google Unified Lara Croft Man Face and you'll see you're in the minority thinking this looks good. This is highly masculine.
***Go outside and see what actual women look like.***
Do you honestly believe I'm some freak hidden away from the world and don't have a mother, never dated, my wife isn't a woman, my daughter isn't a woman, and I work exclusively with men, some who choose to wear dresses sometimes?
***you're in the minority thinking this looks good. This is highly masculine. ***
Right. I'm in the minority. It must be me. Not online people making statements like yours.
"men, some who choose to wear dresses sometimes? "
lmao, do you work at the circus? Definitely somewhere where clowns are present.
@Vengeance maybe take your own advice and stop staring at anime all day. This doesn't look masculine at all.
A quick Google as to why this comment was made... Oh a twitch streamer Melonie Mac went right wing so all the brain broken little kids are following her crazy man face rants.
I used to follow her, but she started getting real weird when she consumed more and more meat and talked about it on a constant basis. Her eyes bulge out of her head now and she makes the most unhinged arguments while claiming to be holy.
Meat is fine, but don't forget your veggies.
Women come in all shapes and sizes pal, femine doesn't mean being put on a pedestal in looks.
Grow up lad.
You really going hard with the man face. You sure do hate feminine looks! Cuz if you honest to god think that face is masculine, says a lot about you pal.
Go outside and see what actual women look like...
Fixed it for you, bud.
On a serious note, you do need some help. Unplug, actually go outside, and soak up the sun. You'll be surprised of how much of a none entity you have turned into. Neither a man nor a woman, but a 4chan slime.
Seriously, seek help.
I think she has many masculine features, but wouldn't it make sense for what she does in game?
This is not PS1, it's a detailed model of a very built woman, who has a tough as nail edge...so yes, she has masculine features and she looks cool to me, I think the 3 Remakes were excellent, and can't wait for the next one.
Why are people looking for attraction in video game characters anyway?
@thesoftware730 honestly I can say the same thing to you guys?, Why do you look for realism in fiction, I can't understand that at all, people like seeing something that looks good, we all like Ryu looking like Arnold times 2 because it's cool, not because it's realistic or anything, same thing for women
@Vengance I wonder what you look like. It would be so ironic if you were this chubby guy with an overly round face.
I'm getting strong neckbeard vibes from him just looking at those comments. If you think average or plain Jane women look like men something is mentally wrong with you.
"Go google Unified Lara Croft Man Face"
Lmao!!! Who..i mean seriously who..in their right mind would actually go the trouble to even type "Man" after Lara Croft. Jeeze..some you people need help really.
I slightly see what you mean, but it's just concept art, so that will probably be improved.
Why would she wear an obscene amount of makeup to go out and plunder ruins? This proves even more you guys need to go touch grass and see the real world instead of E-girls
@isarai
I like your selective realism.
You could also ask why a woman would go and plunder tombs and ruins alone if you're going to go that route.
"This proves even more"
You have no better argument than I do; it's preference vs preference. I've been married for 16 years and my wife agrees - thinks Lara's face is cold and masculine.
Why would she put botox in her lips that make her look like a circus clown? That look is hideous.
Women don't look like that except in AI. No wonder you're single.
@thorstein
Lol. Slow down and take a breather, then keep reading.
Lara always looked feminine. She looks decidedly masculine here.
https://x.com/MediaRaider19...
With all due respect (which is none at all) vengeance ur so off on this lol.
@Vengeance
My man, she raids tombs, she scales building, mountainsides, trees, and anything else she can, she shoots guns,, fight hordes of men/women, animals, and dinosaurs, walks, runs, swims, and, swings on vines/ropes.. What do you want her to look like? Barbie?
So, I agree with you about her masculinity, but have no problem with it, for all the reasons above. Additionally, if you played the remakes(I highly enjoyed all 3)..you would see her actual physical appearance change from game to game, gaining muscle and more masculine features, the dev even had an interview talking about her change..this Laura that you see in this new artwork was always the end game.
Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and then Shadow, all the same Laura as she gets more experienced, to finally become the iconic version, with the 2 guns and short shorts.
Great artwork but please…this unified timeline shit sounds awful
It won’t work
Classic Lara and Survivor Lara have completely different origin stories meaning they are two separate timelines you can’t unify together
I really don’t want Survivor Lara anywhere near Classic Lara.
Survivor Laura in the remakes was a better character imo lol.
But, they can infact retcon, and unify everything. Take note of the remakes, they were always leaning into Laura becoming the, 2 guns, short shorts wearing version, just a more fleshed out, better written and more believable version of the old one.
How? She just whined and whined
Then you think after her progress near the end of the first reboot game the sequel would continue that but she goes back to her old self
The same then happens in the third game but now she’s arrogant and a bit of an arsehole at times especially to Jonah.
First game - Become the Tomb Raider
Second game - Become the Tomb Raider
Third game - Become the Tomb Raider
They are completely different timelines they can’t be merged, even the origin stories are totally different
It’s just a bad idea
Make a new universe or continue the original one
As long as she had dual guns, and doesn't whine all the damn time. They really dropped the ball with the new lara, had such a good start and didn't know what to do with it.
She wines a lot less in the 2nd and 3rd game (she's pretty solid on her goals in the 3rd), but, yeah, lots of whining in that first one. It's not that she whined, it's when she whined at times. At some point, you have to recognize you're not in Kansas anymore, but she still had some moments pretty late in the 1st game.
She was new to Tomb Raiding in the first remake...she progressively became more confident, muscular and experienced in each game.
So the "whining" sort of made sense...even though I would call it inexperienced.
Yea, I actually really loved the moment in 2013 Tomb Raider where Lara truly transforms into the badass, blows the fort doors down shouting "That's right, run you bastards! I'm coming for you all!"
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
I thought hey, there we go! She's become the Tomb Raider!
......bbbuuuuut then she reverts back to the whiney-ness immediately at the start of Rise of the Tomb Raider all over again. I never made it far enough for her to return to that confident Lara again, but the character evolution was just terrible IMO. Inconsistent.
Whining wasn’t my issue with Laura in new games. The issue I had was the extreme homicidal aspects of her, she went from “surviving” treacherous scenarios in the 1st one to just straight up going to action murdering trinity.
Even to the point of flooding an entire town to “stop” trinity. She murdered a crap ton of innocent people.
And she also wouldn’t listen to reason from anybody else for the sake of her goals. I could never fully attach to her and it’s why the 3rd game is still unfinished for me.
I also remember when they were supposedly designing gameplay that gave you options for stealth but 0 scenarios in the game truly allowed you to progress without killing a wave of enemies. So that was just flat false advertising for me.
Yeah she whines alot. You'd think by a third game..her whining would lessen but nope. Only reason i put it up with that..is because its a reboot and you know..before her roots.
No excuse now...
The Call of Duty version?! Surely there is a Fortnite version they can use instead to really nail the feel.
Looks good, i'm hopeful we're leaving behind the Fable 4 face fiasco aka FFFF.
here is me hoping they redo her face and im would like to see the tomb raider series go back to the roots,
So we are back to Tomb Raider: Legend? Good; that's the best design.
Didn't they already reveal this design in the anime and Call it Duty crossover event?
Looks pretty damned good. I actually liked the rise of the tomb raider model best but I think blending the old and new is a great idea.
Thats actually not a bad idea a all, new and old, new lara but go back to her roots
I recently beat rise od the tomb raider definitely a good game, couldn't get into the 3rd cause of way too many puzzles became a chore it was a nice looking game tho but the puzzling took the fun out of it to me hopefully they come back hard with the next title
Proportions are off for sure too large in the top and bottom...belly and breasts of a smaller sized woman.
It's good she can look like her, but the new Lara needs some actual personality to go along with the look otherwise she's just playing dress up. People always criticize how she looked in the Survivor reboot, but to be honest she was boring as a protagonist. It was fine for the first Survivor game as we're getting to know her and she's discovering herself, but afterwards she's supposedly engaging in all these things, but doesn't grow or develop at all.
I mean Survivor Lara couldn't even do somersaults and backflips she didn't really come across as very athletic are having the skill set of a gymnast or something.
This new Lara needs to evolve into a more seasoned explorer more like OG Lara.
Lets face it, Stellar Blade, Eve is the new Lara, specially with that accent.
Looks like I was 100% spot on with this one, Crystal Dynamics just backpedalled! Due to the widespread backlash this art received. They will be changing the model, most likely to be more feminine and not look like a man.
Today Square Enix announced its financial results for the first nine months of the fiscal year, related to the period between April 2023 and December 2023.
I wouldn't be surprised so of those operating expenses were directly related to FF7. Revenue was actually up about 1% YoY while profits declined about 15.5%. Tech Raptor shows 34,918 million yen profit which is only about $235,000. That is razor thin. Suffice to say, profits next quarter are going to skyrocket in comparison.
It’s weird because then you see things saying it didn’t:
https://comicbook.com/gamin...
I think the sales did better than games before this Quarter the year before as the article mentions, but I don’t think the sales were what they were expecting as they’re showing “weak financial results” for Q4.
I think the whole idea of making FF appeal to non-fans was a failure for sure.
The exclusive partnership with Sony clearly is not working so well as they were expecting for a few years now.
Leaving PC, Xbox and Nintendo out, was a mistake.
@ Obscure: FFVII Remake is on PC and Rebirth will be released on PC as well. Same with FFXVI. Pixel Remasters are on the Switch and PC. So they're not skipping those platforms, only Xbox. I wonder why?
@crimsonwing69
Dude your article is from september 2023. This new report is about financial results between april 2023 to december 2023.
@CrimsonWing69 People didn't want a European medieval setting from a game called Final Fantasy.
@Nyxus
"FFVII Remake is on PC and Rebirth will be released on PC as well. Same with FFXVI."
You already know by now that PC gamers aren´t exactly trilled to be treated as "second-class citizens".
By the time FFXVI finally hits the PC, PC gamers will obviously be looking forward for the next big thing that will be day and date on both consoles and PC, and FFXVI at full price after one year (or more) will not cause a major impact resulting in incredible sales.
"So they're not skipping those platforms, only Xbox. I wonder why?"
Stop wonder, it´s money. Sony money pure and simple.
Octopath Traveler skipped on Playstation. But available on both Xbox and the Switch.
Visions of Mana will skip the Switch but will be available on both Xbox and Playstation.
I do understand that Playstation is where the vast majority of Final Fantasy fans are, but the game is clearly not so popular like it used to be.
So yes, going full Playstation was a mistake as their own numbers shows. it is what it is.
@ Obscure: again, the numbers show that the HD games segment (under which FFXVI falls) is up 15%. It's the Mobile/PC Browser games and MMO games that are down.
@Obscure
Their numbers don't support what you're trying to suggest. For all we know, an Xbox version of 16 would've increased dev costs and sales wouldn't have offset that because of the now-indisputable fact that Xbox gamers are fewer, buy less games, and Microsoft is more than content with that. Bringing 16 to the Switch was impossible given their tech target.
If Square's earlier support of Game Pass and being in the Xbox ecosystem was lucrative and worth it for them, we wouldn't have seen titles like Octopath 2 skip the platform and we wouldn't be seeing Sony so easily convincing Square to keep titles PS exclusive for any duration of time.
@Obscure trying to push the deal as bad even though FFXVI was very profitable and one of the few reasons Square isn't even worse off. Square is bad because they're putting money into other bad decisions, yet FFXVI was one of the few not bad decisions.
@Obscure_Observer,
Most Square-Enix games are on PC and other systems, FF16 will probably come to pc eventually.
@Tacoboto @Nyxus @Christopher
"If Square's earlier support of Game Pass and being in the Xbox ecosystem was lucrative and worth it for them, we wouldn't have seen titles like Octopath 2 skip the platform and we wouldn't be seeing Sony so easily convincing Square to keep titles PS exclusive for any duration of time"
I don´t believe that. Octopath 2 is available on Xbox but the original Octopath is not available on Playstation.
This bs narrative that Xbox gamers don´t buy games needs to stop.
Right now Baldur´s Gate 3 is the 15th most played game on Xbox and it´s not available on Gamepass, same goes to MW3 and Tekken 8.
In no moment I said that FFXVI on PS5 flopped.
What I was trying to say is that going full exclusive with Playstation was a mistake given the size and scope of that game.
They could have made a lot more money if they´d released that game day and date on PS5, PC and Xbox.
Most third party publishers are boasting strong financial results. Even Konami (smh), because their games are available day and date on multiple platforms. Square is not.
Again, it´s not Playstation´s fault. That´s entirely on SE´s business decisions on many fronts.
@Obscure trying to push the deal as bad even though FFXVI was very profitable and one of the few reasons Square isn't even worse off.
It´s not the deal itself. It´s the whole decision to go exclusive with one platform for a such big and expensive game.
I don´t even think that Spider-Man 2 sold as many copies as it should to make that 320 Million in development costs back at the top of big profits for all the parties involved.
"I don´t believe that. Octopath 2 is available on Xbox but the original Octopath is not available on Playstation.
This bs narrative that Xbox gamers don´t buy games needs to stop."
Octopath 2 is not yet available on Xbox - it will be sometime "early 2024". It's on PC already, just only through Steam and not the Microsoft Store. A date still hasn't been set.
So not only was Square's Game Pass experiment clearly not worth it to them, it was so bad they thought it worthwhile for anticipated sequels to completely skip the entire ecosystem until Microsoft sent Phil over with a blank check.
At least read before commenting.
"Sales for HD games (games for consoles and PC excluding MMOs) were 66.8 billion yen, up from 58.1 billion yen in the previous year. This is due to the launch of games like Final Fantasy XVI, Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince, and the Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters."
And Final Fantasy XVI is one of the best in a long time. (Not disparaging the other releases) it is just better than so many great FF games.
Thorstein, yea fking right. There hasn't been a great ff since 9. 10 was good but not great.
What else would you expect from someone named jimbo lol.
The article clearly states why the sales were down for the period "The drop in sales and operating income was motivated by the declines in the MMO and smartphone segments, as well as increased development cost amortization and advertising spending."
Anyway, this is a common thing on this site. People will read the title without reading the content and make up their own narratives. I am not just talking about this game or Sony games, but XBOX games as well. People let their bias blind them from facts.
Dont know why you got disagrees, Square themselves stated that Rebirth will bolster their Q earnings. Also, we all know that its going to sell like hotcakes.
ah i dont care about that quite honestly.
remake saved their arses too when it came out.
thw og aswell ha.
im enjoying FF16. while there is a lot of talking, usually you can skip it. Looking forward to FF7R2!
Well.. they sleep on good games, i still wait for vagrant story while they work on this episodic greed caller ff7 remake.
I know how they can make a bit more...
Make more physical copies of Pixel Remaster on PS4
Make real Final Fantasy games again and not games that are named FF but don't feel like one.
SQUARE ENIX HAVE TO BRING THEIR GAMES TO PC AND XBOX DAY 1 SO THEY DON'T LEAVE ON THE BACK
We have uncharted, so why would Microsoft bother. If there going to buy a big name like that there was a lot of better options
I'm not sure it's a system seller -- It might have just alienated more consumers than it integrated.
Just saiyan.