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Only A Third Of Steam Gamers Run Their Games At 1080p

One Angry Gamer "Given the stats from the survey, though, it looks like a moderate amount of PC gamers are rocking 1080p equivalent resolutions like Rob Ford rocks the white powder. However, it also shows that there is still a large portion of PC gamers who aren’t up to par (and even fewer above the bar), meaning that the PS4 and Xbox One’s struggle to maintain 1080p and 60fps is actually above the average standard of most PC gamers, especially considering that only a third of Steam users can actually maintain a 1080 resolution."

ElementX3542d ago

My monitor is 1680x1050 *shrug* If I play on my TV it's 1080p.

WilliamUsher3542d ago

Interestingly enough, you're part of the 5.87% in the survey.

I'm curious, do you have your PC hooked up to your TV? And if you did take the survey, would you use your native PC monitor resolution or when/if you hook it up to your TV?

ElementX3542d ago

I have my PC connected to my TV and a monitor. I play on the monitor more often and I completed the survey while using the monitor. The survey just analyses your PC specs so I'm under the 1680x1050 group because that's the resolution I was using at the time.

BitbyDeath3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

And that is why PC has nothing close to the image quality of inFamous SS, DriveClub, The Order 1886 or Uncharted 4.

Devs gotta support them older PC's.

Army_of_Darkness3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Only a 3rd?? LOL!

I just got my PS4 and connected it to my 1080p HDTV, downloaded war frame and tried it out.
Holy shit... Runs at 1080p@ 60fps and the graphics are very sharp and crisp. So if this game looks this great in the first year of the ps4, then I can't image what the following years will bring except for my personal conclusion that the ps4 is an equivalent to a high end PC. Even Tomb raider DE that I just got looks and plays way better than the ps3/360 versions! I see a big difference already in comparison to the previous gen and I can see why pC fanboys are trying very hard to downplay the ps4 because it's a $400 console that can perform equally as good as a high end pc ;-)

starchild3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

I've never done a Steam survey and I run my games at 2048 x 1152 resolution.

Besides, this article is a bit silly. It doesn't make the point the author thinks it makes.

Even IF the Steam survey was completely representative of all PC gamers (which it's not) that would still mean there are somewhere around 25 to 30 million PC gamers running their games at 1080p or above. How many PS4s have been sold? Last I heard it was around 8 million, I believe. Then you have to consider that not every PS4 owner is playing their games on a 1080p display. There is certainly a sizable percentage of PS4 owners who are playing on a 720p display, or even standard def tube TVs in some cases.

There are definitely far more PC gamers running their games at 1080p than there are PS4 or XB1 owners doing so. And, yeah, the console user bases will go up over time, but PC gamers will also be growing in number and many current PC gamers will be upgrading their hardware and displays over time as well.

Raf1k13542d ago

People seem to get the wrong idea about this. A lot of PC monitors will end up being something a little different. I also have a monitor that's 1680x1050.

If 33% are actually displaying at 1080p then that doesn't mean that the rest are at a lower resolution. Some of them will be at higher resolutions.

There are just so many different resolution screens with PCs (I'm assuming this includes laptops).

Vegamyster3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

@Army_of_Darkness

" Even Tomb raider DE that I just got looks and plays way better than the ps3/360 versions! I see a big difference already in comparison to the previous gen and I can see why pC fanboys are trying very hard to downplay the ps4 because it's a $400 console that can perform equally as good as a high end pc ;-) "

Mmhm no... A high end PC can play games at 1440p let alone 1080p. Gamespots now dated budget gaming PC build ($566) with a AMD 7850, FX 6300, 4 GB of ram out performed the PS4 in on their benchmarks (BF4, AC4, Thief): http://www.gamespot.com/art...

For $40 more then that build today you can get a PC with a R9 270 (Slighty faster 7870), 8GB or Ram and a 1 TB HDD. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T...

Tombraider doesn't run locked at 60 fps on the PS4 and both console versions are missing PC features like Tessellation. http://static.gamespot.com/...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

XB1_PS43542d ago

It's funny that the title says only a third of pc gamers run at 1080p, and that's supposed to sound bad.

BUT, if you look at his picture, 62% of them are 1080p AND ABOVE. Just happens to be 33% of them are using exactly 1920x1080.

Also, a lot of people that are on steam aren't really PC gamers. If you've ever downloaded steam, and attempted to play a game. Your stats are recorded. So, a lot of those laptop gamers probably aren't actually able to play that many games. I don't classify them as the PC Master race.

andrewer3542d ago

@Raf1k1 exactly. Just look at 3840x1080 - 25.39%. Lots of people doing AMD eyefinity or NVidia Surround hehe

levian3542d ago

I can't play any PC game in a smaller resolution than the monitor's native resolution. Playing a game in 720p on a 720p monitor is fine. Playing a game in 720p on a 1080p monitor however, everything looks much larger than it should.

BattleAxe3541d ago

I don't play in 1080p because I play in 2560 x 1080 resolution instead :)

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badz1493542d ago

Here I thought this is kinda old news?

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OwnageDC6503542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

I play at 1440p and sometimes at 7680x1440p. 3 of my close buds play at 1440p. None of us bothered with the survey.

starchild3542d ago

Most people I talk to don't. I've never done the survey either. I don't know why some people latch onto the Steam survey as if it were a factual representation of all PC gamers. It's not.

Spartacus103542d ago

@ starchild
Its more accurate than trusting a bunch of vocal PC elitists.

I have no doubt theres PC gamers running games above 1080p, and even at 4k, or even higher using multiple monitors, but I also dont see why its hard to accept that MOST people DONT do that.

Jdoki3542d ago

@starchild

Because the number of people who DO respond means Steam has an extremely good sample size of data and so is a very good and accurate cross section of the PC gaming population.

Also, by NOT doing the Steam survey you realise that you are not getting your voice heard when it comes to future development of games. Devs take note of stats like Steam Survey when considering the target specs of their games (e.g. If no one who was running DX11 bothered to respond, devs may be less likely to take advantage of DX11 specific features and so on - because why bother to spend time = money developing features only a tiny % of customers will benefit from)

Nafon3542d ago

If you look at the survey, it is clear that a good majority of users that do the survey do it from their average laptops.

"1366 x 768 25.60%"

No desktop monitor has that resolution. Only Laptops and some HDTVs will use it.

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Charybdis3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

looking at console gamers past xb 360/ ps3 gen and this gen xb1/ps4. how many % run their games at 1080.

when comparing console gaming and pc gaming for resolution wouldn't we need to compare this gen consoles x1 ps4 (1 year old consoles) and televions connected to these consoles with pc devices (1 - 3 year old pcs) and the resolution of monitors/tvs used.

Magicite3542d ago

I play on 1920x1200. But there are many people who still dont have full hd monitors or those who play on laptops not capable of 1080p.
I doubt there are many who play on higher resolutions.

ShaunCameron3542d ago

Or there are people who do have capable PC's but don't care about video games which happen to be a solid majority of PC owners.

TardcoreGamer3542d ago

THE TITLE IS MISLEADING!
61.63% use 1080p or GREATER
Roughly 38% play somewhere under.

The author didn't account for >1080p displays and triple screen setups.

WilliamUsher3542d ago

Nope.

The 25% relates to a separate category. It means 25% of all people who use multi-monitor setups use 1080 or above, it's not combined with the people who use single-monitor setups.

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gamernova3542d ago

I play at 1440p and didn't take any survey. This survey is a sample of a much higher population. Additionally, this survey has a response bias because most people who do have the major gaming rigs are working and most likely will not fill out a survey. Most likely it is the unemployed that have filled these out because simply they have the time. A lot of people don't know how statistical analyses work and are so quick to jump to conclusions. However, it is true that a large portion of PC gamers do not rock the high resolution. Not everyone can afford it. It can get pricey when you want the best experience.

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Qrphe3542d ago

This has been known for a while. But this only refers to the display resolution most of them have and not the resolution they run their games at. 1080p is still the most popular resolution though even if this became a fact barely early this year.

Volkama3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Article makes out that this is a small number, but it isn't.

Of course the survey is only listing what the native resolution of the attached display is, and says nothing of performance at that res. If you took a similar survey of console gamers then the numbers would overwhelmingly stack on 1080p, simply because they are generally connected to TVs.

Also I am quite surprised that as many as 25% use 2 screens (3840x1080). I would expect most of them only game on a single screen, so that number can be added on to the 1080p stat.

Letros3542d ago

If the author had half a brain he would realize that 3840x1080 is two 1080p screens, one for gaming one for whatever. Which would put 1080p to almost 60% of Steam gamers.

Qrphe3542d ago

Out of all of those who use multimonitor setups, 25% of them use two 1080p. It doesnt mean that 25% of all of Steam users run two 1080p monitors on the same rig.

Volkama3542d ago

If so then the snapshot in the article is not clear at all. I see that the 3840x1080 is listed after "other", so perhaps there are some extra headings to the left of the image that specify multi-monitor setup category.

25% using dual screens certainly does seem too high to me :)

solidsheep3542d ago

hehe Windows 8 and Windows xp have almost the same size user base.

donthate3542d ago

That is sort of misleading considering, Steam breaks Windows 8 into 32 bit and 64 bit versions, and there is also Windows 8.1 with similar breakup, as a separate post.

The full list (as you can see 8.1 and 7 is the most popular):

Windows 7 64 bit
48.92%

Windows 8.1 64 bit
17.75%

Windows 7
11.68%

Windows 8 64 bit
8.25%

Windows XP 32 bit
4.69%

Windows Vista 64 bit
1.84%

Windows Vista 32 bit
1.01%

Windows 8.1
0.48%

Windows 8
0.44%

Windows XP 64 bit
0.25%

DragonbornZ3542d ago

I game in 900p on my laptop. When I build myself a pc and get dat Sapphire Radeon 7950 doe :D

Cueil3542d ago

make sure you get that GHZ Edition... the difference can be HUGE

sourav933542d ago

I would recommend getting a R9 280X, since the 285X will be coming out soon, and the price of the 280x will drop.

Pandamobile3542d ago

1/3 of Steam users is more than the entire current-gen console install base, so...

NatureOfLogic_3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

*Slow clap* smh

I find it really funny that 1080p is not quite the standard that we hear about all the time.

Cueil3542d ago

to be fair a lot of monitors are only 900p... for a while I was rocking three 21" 900p monitors... now I have my system hooked up to my 47" TV at 1080p, but I don't think i took this last survey

jsslifelike3542d ago

To also be fair, there are a TON of Steam users running inferior hardware and just use it to access indies that are exclusive to PC. They do their AAA gaming elsewhere. That skews things more than you think.

boneso823542d ago

Look at the numbers properly!

1/3 of Steam user play at exactly 1080p!

Another 1/3 play at higher res than 1080p!

So that's 2/3 that play at 1080p or higher!

This in turn means that only 1/3 play at lower than 1080p res!

This article has been twisted by a console fanboy to try and justify console resolutions to console fanboys. Desperate...

(PS: I am a long time console gamer, only built first PC this year. Play it on TV @ 1080p and mostly 60fps)

user56695103542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Another sour face fanboys, just like the on that wrote the article. They are so despite to find anything to make pc look bad. And you have to participate in these surveys. I don't know any who ever filled these out

And yall do know there are a ton of cheap laptops that is lower than 1080p. Nice try keep on trying to catch up

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Caffo013542d ago

Thank you for being so obvious, this gen started 9 months ago... And don't tell me about wii u, as much as i like it i don t consider it current gen.

Kosmacz3542d ago

However, Steam does show only resolution of desktop. This does not imply that they really play games with this resolution. Real number may be much lower

Stapleface3542d ago

Or higher. I have my pc hooked up to my tv for now and it's a 1080p screen. But I run most of my games down sampled from 1440p. Some from higher resolutions than that.

MuhammadJA3542d ago

This third is the console gamers themselves playing PC games on their crappy laptops.

Qrphe3542d ago

Pretty sure more than 1/3 of console users game on 1080p TVs so...

Pandamobile3541d ago (Edited 3541d ago )

I would hope so, considering you only have like one option to choose from these days.

Now, how about the number of console games that actually run at 1080p? That number is much smaller than the number of people who have an appropriate TV.

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UltimateOwnage8d ago

Hmm, not sure I agree with that. The recommendations I get are usually pretty good, but then again I have pretty large library of games on Steam and hundreds of them in my wish list, along with lots of curators I follow for it to build recommendations off of. On occasion it will throw me a random FIFA game or something I've never bought or shown interest in, but mostly its decent IMO.

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Skul is a metroidvania ? It’s on PS+ soon I’ll check it out. If it’s good I’ll buy a copy physically if they have one

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If Pseudoregalia is one of the best I'd hate to see what the worst look like.

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Dragon’s Dogma 2 releases to mixed user reviews, as microtransactions criticised

Players can pay to edit their character, resurrect the dead and other actions.

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AdonisIsBeast26d ago

Who cares as long as it’s optional

phoenixwing26d ago

paying to edit your character is kind of crap as far as microtransactions go

Xristo26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I hate any/all MTX in a paid game (especially a full-price game)... but know that you can spend in-game currency (RC), which you get from killing mobs, to completely remake your character.

phoenixwing26d ago

@xRisto how much did it change the gameplay though? Changing your character would have probably not cost any rc if they weren't hellbent on getting money by making it inconvenient

koga8826d ago

You can literally edit your character using in-game gold, dropped from monsters or obtained from selling items, as soon as you reach the first main town. You can even use Rift Crystals obtained from other people using your pawn or dropped from monsters to change your entire character or Pawn. It's paying to avoid doing something that is literally in the game.

PRIMORDUS26d ago

They are lucky there using Denuvo or their game and all future DLC etc. would be for free. 🤣

phoenixwing26d ago

@koga you completely missed the point i was making but go ahead and act like i'm being the wrong one

lucian22925d ago

you can pay ingame currency though; why are ya so derp

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Crows9026d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Capcom cares quite a bit....hence why it was kept from reviewers and initial impressions.

As far as optional...yeah...ALL mtx are optional. That's not the problem. The miss the mark entirely.

Heck buying the game is "optional" too.

The fact that they were hiding this is scummy as hell. I was going to buy this day 1 or day 3. Now I'm reconsidering the purchase entirely because as the reviews point out...there are certain design decisions which have not changed but funnily enough seem to be remedied by these mtx...

In other words they may have left certain features in the game in order to monetize them. So the mtx affected the development of the game in a negative way.

garos8226d ago

I'm certainly not buying it anymore. It has affected at least one sale from me. I'll pick it up second hand

peppeaccardo26d ago

Very close to buy the game at a discounted price but not anymore.
Bad business practice and hence they do not get my support/money !

warriorcase26d ago

It wasn't kept fromreviewers s though. Twitter reviewers are saying there was mention of mtx's in the reviewers guide

-Foxtrot26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

STOP. USING. THAT. SHITTY. EXCUSE

God damn man

Look how DLC changed after Oblivions horse armour, within 10 years most developers took the absolute p***. What was said then aswell? “It’s only optional who cares?” Now look where we all are.

There’s no half measures with these things, when will people realise this.

jwillj2k426d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Oh it’s gonna get worse. Ng+ locked behind mtx, “cool downs” preventing you from playing for more than 3 hours at a time unless u pay the mtx for unlimited access, main campaign bosses, in-game music, certain dialog, difficulty modes, certain npc interactions, all locked behind mtx, etc.. etc. gonna end up being like the NBA 2k games eventually paying for cross overs and shit… They gon get mid-evil on our asses.

OMGitzThatGuy26d ago

I can guarantee most of the items you can buy with mtx and ingame currency wouldn’t exist in ANY paid form if the main goal wasn't monetization. If the goal is to give idiots who are willing to pay for basic game features as mtx a way to do things faster then the only ones the mtx hurt are the non paying players as you are now locking features behind a grind that you chose to put in the game that you are essentially admitting to creating some type of time sink. I have never heard of a game locking basic character editing behind a ingame paywall, it’s usually just an option.

Chard26d ago

Takes two to tango though - unfortunately people buy this garbage which incentivises the behaviour. It's an inevitable outcome of the profit motive

thorstein26d ago

@Mario

Yes. And so are resurrection "Wakestones." You can find them but they're rare.

victorMaje26d ago

Buying the game is now very optional too. If you don’t know why then you don’t get it.

shinoff218326d ago

Because it's only a door way. That's why we care. We've already seen some shit since Mtx was introduced.

Rimeskeem26d ago

1. DD2 is an ARPG with 8 different playable classes
2. There is no multiplayer aspect to the game
3. You can only have one character (have to pay for more)
4. You cannot delete the character unless you go into the game files
5. The game is $70 dollars upfront

Having to pay for more character slots in a game that *features* 8 playable classes is pretty much not optional for an ARPG.

Angyobangyo26d ago

Judging from steam reviews, gamers care. Not plastic gamers. Why didn’t Itsuno mention such MTX would be available in-game? Why weren’t the MTXs there for review copies?

Kiryu199226d ago

Who cares is how all this started. The many many excuses. Please keep defending these greedy publishers and unfair tactics. We be gamers are the problem

Horse armor

$10 online passes if buying a used copy

Cheat codes gone and are replaced by micro transactions

Unlocking stuff by playing games behind micro transactions and XP boosters

It’s only cosmetic

No one is being forced to spend even though publishers are literally making their games more grindy to force people to play

Full priced games have mobile game type micro transactions

$70 priced games because higher development costs while making record profits and laying off record number of employees

And to play the game early pay us extra $20-30 on top of full price

Release games now and promise to maybe fix them later only to abandon the game

Day one patches that make the games worst

If it’s your favorite game defend the publisher if it’s not hate on another publisher for similar content

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kenpachi26d ago

Must have picked up some EA crew to put this in the game

robtion26d ago

Yeah these are really bad ones. Directly impacting gameplay too. Super scummy move. I hope nobody buys them.

CrimsonWing6926d ago

Yet Helldivers 2 gets a pass? Y’know a GotY contender by the name of RE4 had them and so does Devil May Cry V. The funny thing is I enjoyed both of those games thoroughly without having to buy a single microtransaction.

What I do consider a valid complaint is not being able to start a new game or being able to edit your character. That’s kind of a seriously baffling decision, but then I think how I played Dragon’s Dogma 1 and I never edited my character and I just did a 100% playthrough on a single file and didn’t start a NG since. So, I don’t think these are really going to impact me, but I can see how it will others.

Crows9026d ago

Helldivers 2 is a live service game where everything is obtainable in game with incredible ease.

Not sure about re4 or DMC but nobody is giving anyone a pass ...this article is about dragons dogma 2...not those games.

What is valid are in game features made to supposedly force you to think carefully only to have a surprise online store offer solutions to built in problems for more money.

Goosejuice26d ago

Those same things they are selling can be found Ingame as well. U can buy the character editor through merchants with gold. Don't get me wrong..I dislike these mtx they are doing but you don't need to buy them to be able to get them.

CrimsonWing6926d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Oh my bad, I can’t bring up games with microtransactions that nobody had a sh*t fit over. My mistake.

I love how people move the goalpost.

Crows9026d ago

@goose
@crimson

All mtx sucks. I'd rather helldiver's not have them because it makes me wonder if the rate at which you collect materials. That said. The games features are all fully enjoyable and aren't affected by the mtx.

That's not the case with dragons dogma 2...they left in place features that are supposedly part of the challenge of the game only to let you buy your way out very conveniently. I didn't look through all of them but I've heard some are rare but can be purchased with more money now. Even more so in a game about managing weight load there's a tent, I believe, that you can pay more money for that weighs less than your typical tent...not all sure on all the mtx and I'm aware that you can purchase many through in game vendor but they're incredibly useful mtx that are obtained much more slowly in game...or even a limited amount of them.

Instead is selling fast travel...just let us don't for free....or instead of selling cosmetic changes...how about letting us do it for free...

Nothing in helldivers comes close to this abomination

Angyobangyo26d ago

One is a single player game and one is a live service game. One is $40 vs$70. And most importantly, one game is there to spread democracy.

Ironmike26d ago

It's not incredibly easy for certain things in helldivers though u still have grind quite bit but u ate correct in saying u can eventually get enough medals to purchase stuff

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Moegooner26d ago

Read your comment again and maybe, just maybe you might realise how dumb it was.

CrimsonWing6926d ago (Edited 26d ago )

What was dumb about it? That I pointed out the hypocrisy?

garos8226d ago

It was extremely scummy that capcom hid this from reviewers. I have no doubt this game is good but these type of microtransactions don't sit well with me. They've lost a sale from me

Lionsguard26d ago

I was going to pay full price to support this game because I've been waiting for it for forever but I think I'll wait until I get it for free from Epic or a Humblebundle monthly.

Redemption-6426d ago

I am not defending Capcom, as I am not a fan of MTX in single player games. I do however belive they were open to reviewers about having MTX in their game. The reviewers just decided to leave that part out. Which is very disingenuous. There are some companies that get away with these things. Image if this was done by EA, Ubisoft, or even Activision? I am positive those defending Capcom, would have had their pitchforks ready if the companies listed above did this

anast26d ago

That's why reviewers can't be trusted. In fact, they are not reviewers at all. They get free codes to talk about stuff they don't understand nor care about.

Sanctusone26d ago

I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with eyes...one of the items you get from deluxe edition was in game items.
1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)
Which honestly I figured they kept a similar mtx system like DMC5 and the optional red orbs.

Lionsguard26d ago

1500 Rift Crystals doesn't mean anything. The first game had Rift crystals too, you just earned them by people hiring your Pawn and you get it from certain quests.

anast25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

A reviewer's job is to point out the obvious of a product as though they were the consumer. This means reviewers, to do their actual job, would need to review the complete game: the edition they are reviewing, how they got the game, technical aspects, story, and monetization scheme. Since, it is obvious that MT's are a part of the game, it would need to be reviewed. This way people can be informed, so they can decide if they want to play this style of game/monetization scheme.

For example, AC Origins was bad with Mt's. I had to farm side missions or pay to advance the story. This was after I already did close to 25 or more side missions. While I was grinding there were constant reminders that I could pay to ease the grind. I would have never bought the game if it were reviewed properly.

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